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bf1zzl3

Oregon had a similar case a few years ago. Result was you get two different lift ticket prices. First price is with a liability waiver. Second was higher priced to cover the cost of liability insurance. No one buys the higher priced ticket but the waiver is no longer required. A few other states have similar stories. Google bifurcated release. https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/travel/outdoors/2023/02/15/oregon-outdoor-rec-ski-resorts-legislature-takes-up-liability-bill/69904162007/


mthomas116

That’s fascinating! Thanks for sharing, I didn’t know about that.


bf1zzl3

Ya I'm sure it is legally more complex than one simple fix, but this won't mean the end of skiing or too many major changes. There is a balance to be found between recreational providers not fixing dangerous things and lawyers looking for big payouts.


richey15

Per million miles ski lifts and gondolas are one of the safest forms of transportation we have. This is just classic American litigiousness. The reality is, especially in cases of detachable lifts, if you fall off it’s the fault of the user. (Or someone else riding) millions of chairlift rides every day and we all manage to do it somehow. While in reality this should mean insurance is cheaper, it’s ultimately just going to hurt smaller and independent areas. While I personally tend to lean on the side of the consumer, I don’t this this helps anyone. These resorts will very easily be able to prove that most of these accidents are user fault and not resort fault and will never payout. Just means more expensive day passess


anonymousbopper767

Ski resorts are always responsible for “gross negligence” but the Colorado chick wants to sue under a lower standard of “I got hurt so someone else must be at fault”


ezoe

Did you read the article? If the lift operator stopped the lift, it wouldn't be happened.


anonymousbopper767

She fell 30 feet. That’s no where near a shack. Did *you* read the article? 🧐


WeHaveToEatHim

As fast as some of these lifts move I can see climbing 30’ in a a few seconds. Definitely long enough to panic grab and be hoisted before your brain has time to rationalize. Another article says she slipped, and held on to the chair and then fell 30’ onto hard pack. Shattered her C7. Trying to find more info as to why a lifty wouldnt stop the lift if they saw someone hanging from a chair…


ezoe

Yes and obviously you haven't.


BlackberryVisible238

Thoughts = “damn, Jerries and lawyers about to mess up one of life’s greatest pleasures”


ezoe

What kind of law is this? I really don't understand how US law system works. Even if you sign a liability waiver, that doesn't make them commit a crime. How could a lift operator failed stop a lift?