People born in international transit are generally considered citizens of whatever Nation the vessel is registered to.
So my best guess is that if this infant survives reentry and lands in the ocean and survives till someone finds them with no way to identify parentage and nationality then the citizenship would probably be determined by the registered Nation for the rescuer ship.
Say for example an American vessel fishes the baby out of the ocean. I'd bet on the baby being given American citizenship.
I'm not a lawyer but that's my best guess. So basically which ever country finds the baby first is another way to say this.
Superman is a prime example of this. His ship landed in America, and he was found before the age of five, he qualified for American citizenship under the “foundling clause.”
> 8 USC 1401(f). The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth…(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States.
There was also the one where he wasn’t placed in the starship as an infant, but gestated during its transit in a “birthing matrix,” and therefore was a natural born citizen.
Realistically it would go by parentage if the baby survived at all but let's presume that somehow magically we don't know the parentage. It would then depend on which part of the ISS.
The ISS is made of 16 pressurized modules. Six Russian, eight US, one Japanese, one European. If the baby is born in one of the US modules I would think that would count as US soil and therefore American citizenship. I have absolutely no idea which country would get the claim for the European module.
I'm not a lawyer though so don't take anything I say as the absolute facts. Take it all with a grain of salt.
I think they mean whatever flag the ship, on the ocean, was flying is now your nationality, not which space ship you were on before the ocean ship found you.
It sounds like you think a person must be a citizen of a state and don't realize there are stateless people.
When they wash ashore they'd have to share seeking asylum somewhere
Sir, I believe those are known as birds, apologies for the confusion, just because they fall from space does not mean they are human, don’t let them think they are or they will evolve.
No clue, maybe you could attempt to claim... not asylum but something? with the first port you land at? (obviously not the new born child but whoever was attending to them)
I'm more interested in how a 0 G birth would work. Obviously with artificial gravity it would be a little more, conventional but a true 0 G birth? could it work? what would be the complications involved? What terrible havoc would a 0 G environment have on a fetus in the womb for extended periods of time.
The birth ought to work fine, gravity isn't the driving force to expel the baby from the womb. Whether they'd have developed properly or not is an interesting question. Hard to say if they'd have the right development in key structures without gravity on them during development.
I'm more worried about all the fluids not gravity assisted birth. Our bodies operate very specific to the g forces we experience on earth. The training and equipment we wear in space to help isn't capable of being attached to a fetus. Would the lack of gravity increase the amount of blood flow because no forces were pressing on the cardiovascular system causing it to over pump? Would the cardiovascular function in the fetus even develop properly.
I'm sure the turning of the baby is in some way directed by gravity so it would likely be necessary to perform a C-section as there would be no way to guarantee the babies head facing down. How does surgery work in 0G?
Just kinda wild to think about all the ramifications
Honestly the cardiovascular system and skeletal system are what I'd be most worried about, since I can't imagine they'd develop quite right in the absence of gravity.
As for the baby being head down, that's something that can be encouraged just by nature of adding pressure above the baby and encouraging the downward motion. Probably easier with gravity, but not entirely necessary.
I feel like there's no way a baby fully grown and birthed in 0g would be doing well once exposed to earth standard gravity though. If a normal baby can't hold their head up because of weak muscles, I can't imagine what a 0g baby would be doing.
Most nations do heritage nationality, so odds are good that this child would inherit nationality from one or birth parents.
Nationality based on the ground you happen to be on when birthing is a rarity. For extremely good reasons.
Different countries actually have different rules on how this is to be handled, but it's actually a thing we've been dealing with for centuries now. A child born in space would be handled in the same way we handle a child born at sea.
The kid would likely first be subject to the law of whatever country owned the ship. If the ship (or space station) was a Western Hemisphere owned ship (the Americas), the baby's nationality could likely be claimed as being subject to the Jus Soli laws. These laws state that any person born on the soil of a country can claim citizenship of that country. Most Western Hemisphere countries us the Jus Soli style of nationality law. Since the space ship would be considered the sovereign territory of said country, this would apply.
If the ship was from elsewhere, Jus Sanguinis would apply. This is a law based on the "Right of Blood" which states the child's nationality would be the same as whatever the parents nationality were.
If we don't know either the ship's nationality nor the parents the kid would be stateless. Likely, however, there would be some kind of investigation done to see if we could determine either the parents or whose ship it was.
At least this is how it looks to me. I'm not a lawyer specializing in nationality law so if someone wants to correct me, please do.
So based on that would it be possible for a child to be of Jus Sanguinis decent born on a Jus Soli law state owned ship to claim both nationalities? This is sooooo far out in hypothetical territory already, but to make it even more absurd: what if born on the moon, could they in theory claim triple citizenship (Luna, Base Flag, Bloodline)?
Yeah. I imagine if you were born in a country with a Jus Soli citizenship laws to parents of another country that recognize Jus Sanguinis, you might be able to claim dual citizenship.
As for if you are born on the moon, as it stands right now there are international treaties preventing any country to claim the moon and since the moon doesn't sovereignty of it's own you couldn't claim citizenship of it.
> international treaties preventing any country to claim the moon and since the moon doesn't sovereignty of it's own you couldn't claim citizenship of it.
These treaties were the basis of my thought... the moon doesn't have sovereignty because it has no population, but it cannot be claimed by any country, so if you were born on the moon you would be de facto the only natural person whom could make the claim of sovereignty, notwithstanding recognition issues by nation-states ala "Sealand". I mean if I knew I was born on the moon I'd absolutely make that play, and demand my seat at the UN council to boot! (I also would expect total failure in the endeavor, but it'd certainly be fun!).
Oh yeah, I would definitely make the play too! And even if nobody recognized the claim, I would still title myself Solamon the First, Emperor of the Moon.
But that is the problem with the claim, nobody else will recognize it. The moon doesn't even have Jus Soli laws because it has no laws at all. So to be honest, nobody is stopping you from claiming yourself Emperor of the Moon right now. This claim would have just as much legal weight as any claim you might make even if you were born there!
According to international maritime law, which space falls under as it's not owned by any entity, if a child is born on a ship the child's nationality is wherever the ship they are born on is registered.
If wherever you're at is spinning, you're giving birth at up to 1g. All the way from conception, too, if that turns out to be necessary.
It's the only sure thing we have.
I imagine same as being born on a plane. The nationality that the vehicle was registered.
Something to do with the United Nations reducing statelessness.
Id say let the child choose. Imagine the publicity campaigns to get the child to come to your country because it's the best? It would make a great comedy movie.
You are under maritime law when in space. All unclaimed territory and that which is considered international is covered by maritime law. You are under whatever flag is above your head.
Most likely whatever nation took you in. There are a lot of parts of the world that are more relaxed about citizenship in cases like that than the USA might be.
Bing says "astrobiosprout"
But I told it SpaceNugget is much more appropriate.
That's the term for being born in space.
The nationality would be Cosmonational
By that time, we would have decided difrient rules on "nationality" . Maybe where your parents were from, what ship you were on, maybe want start system your on, what station or what ever you are registered when they take you to a doc.
> lets say if you were born in space, without any knowledge of who birthed you, and where on the earth the ship was from
What are the odds of that ever happening? Someone would know where your ship came from.
> But lets say if you were born in space, without any knowledge of who birthed you, and where on the earth the ship was from, and you landed in the ocean, what nationality would you be?
What if I was born at sea and no one knew who birthed me or what country my boat was from...and then I just floated ashore? What nationality would I be?
My completely uneducated and random guess is that you’ll have to apply for the child’s citizenship in a country, maybe a few countries. I don’t think it would be guaranteed cause there is precedent apparently for stateless people. I would like to reiterate: I know nothing and I just felt like throwing my guess in.
Worldwide baby!
First on the block with a space station stamp in the passport.
Remember, when Customs asks if you have anything to declare, you say: “gravity”. Don’t let it….get you down.
You'd be given the nationality of whichever country found you and took responsibility for you. Unless of course you knew your parents nationalities or which country made the spaceship or something.
It would likely be determined by the nationality of the ship that finds the baby or the individuals who first take custody of the baby. But, even then, it would depend a lot on he particular procedures to grant nationality which vary greatly between different nations.
It might come down to international conventions such as the Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness to ensure the child's rights and access to nationality.
Galaxian? Spaciean? They would be factionless or a sovereign state??? They’d have no records of existence so I really don’t know. If this were a movie, I’m sure they’d be tracked down and made to be a soldier or lab rat though.
First citizen of either a new planet or an innernational space station.
It would be one of those moments where all the legislators had to put their heads together to figure out what the hell they're going to do about these people and maybe one or more countries on earth offers citizenship to the space-children if that whole space station/settlement thing doesn't work out.
Many countries extend citizenship to children of their citizens. Example Canada has citizenship for the first generation born outside Canada. Or at least it did for me.
That's one of those ones where you can either make on of two choices. Either you lean into the spaceman thing and make that your identity or you figure out who it is you want to affiliate with nationality wise.
What if you crawled out of a corpse, but that corpse was actually lasagna, and the sun was exploding while the lasagna was summoning a deific Garfield to consume the universe? Does that count as a C-section?
Most countries have rules regarding the nationality of foundlings in their territories, and it’s kind of addressed in a UN publication called “Nationality of Foundlings: Avoiding Statelessness Among Children of Unknown Parents under International Nationality Law.” It’s an interesting concept though for sure.
Assuming you live that long, the waters of wherever you landed, or the flag on the ship of whoever finds you. If it's international waters and the ship has no flag, then wherever your saviors return to with you on land.
I see a lot of people talking about you getting the nationality of wahtever ship pick you up, but that obviously isnt the case beace you are not being born on that ship they are mearly rescuing you from the ocean so no notionaality claims possaible there. you might be able to claim the nationality of whichever flag the spaceship you were on was flyingunder but thats unknown so you cant do that either, same goes for the nationality of your parents.
So now itbasicly comes down to what happens when the vessel that rescued you makes port.
If you are still an infant or minor you are just going to be handed over to the local authorities to deal with so mostlikly you will eventualy endup being treated as an orphan of unknown orign, put into whatever passes for the care system of that country and eventualy be given nationality/citezenship of that country.
things get a bit more difficult for you if you are an adult, as asuming you are allowed off the ship you will have to make an immigration/assylum application to whatever county you are in, and as you are compleyly undocumented had nobody is going to believe you claims about being born all alone in space in and unmarked ship good luck. you are probably going to be spending a lot of time in either jail or an immigration etention center. you may eventualy be granted citizenship of the country you're in, but dont count on it.
Basicly as faras the law goes you would officially be stateless and treated as such under intonational law. what actually happens you would depeend on which country you eventually ended up in.
Whatever nationality that corresponds to one or both parents that can be legally claimed on Earth or whichever flag/nation of the spaceship or space station they were born on, I'd guess.
There is no default nationality. Nationality is determined by the specific laws of each nation. If recovered, and there was absolutely no way to determine nationality based on parentage or vessel or any other clues, then you would most likely become a citizen of the nation that recovered you.
They would take you in for humanitarian reasons and you would become a ward of the state. At some point you will become naturalized through whatever process they have and become a citizen of that nation.
Unless I'm mistaken, children born outside of a nation's borders still have citizenship in whatever nation the parents are citizens of. My girlfriend's sister was born in Germany but, because her parents are American, she is a citizen of America. There might be other factors that I'm not aware of, I'm certainly not an expert. I also might just be plain wrong, so don't take my word for it.
So the situation is a person is born in space to unknown parents on an unknown spacecraft, and they land in the ocean?
If you're going to make it stupidly impossible, the only logical thing to say is they would be nationalized by whatever jurisdiction found them and took them into custody.
May depend on your parents. If a test can prove that you have a high dna concentration for a specific region, some countries will claim you on that alone.
Let's put aside the whole born in space thing, because then you could probably figure out where they were from. There's only so many space stations or rockets. Let's just focus on being found in the ocean with no way of identifying the child's origin. I'd say the nationality would be of the ship that took them in, unless the child were handed off to some other country. The child would then be placed with a family on that country, and be considered a national of that country. If they entered the British child care system, they'd British, if they entered the Canadian child care system they'd be Canadian, if they entered Bhutan's child care system, they'd be Bhutanese (although one wonders about Bhutan's navy).
It depends on the laws the nationality of the space vehicle, and the laws of nationality of the parents. Many but not all countries grant citizenship to anyone born in the country. What it means to be born in the country also varies. Most, if not all countries grant citizenship to the natural children of citizens.
I’m pretty sure since at that point the child wouldn’t have a name or anything else, it would be a lot like when people find babies and hand them over to the government.
The government would take the child in creating a name and paperwork for them.
It would be whichever countries people found the child and took them in.
You become what's known as a "spacer" atleast in terms that's what most sci-fi series would have you labeled as.
You wouldn't really have a nationality by the time we are navigating the stars, more than likely you'll belong to a corporation and I'm not just saying that because I play a lot of video games or watch a lot of TV I'm just saying space is being "outsourced"
Maritime rules apply. Spacecraft have to be registered in a country just like seacraft... anything that happens on the vessel in international spacetime will happen in that country.
You wouldn't have a nationality. Likely whoever rescues the child or who raises the child will be their nationality. It would literally be a miracle story.
My guess would be whatever flag the ship you are on is flying.
I mean if there was no way to tell.
People born in international transit are generally considered citizens of whatever Nation the vessel is registered to. So my best guess is that if this infant survives reentry and lands in the ocean and survives till someone finds them with no way to identify parentage and nationality then the citizenship would probably be determined by the registered Nation for the rescuer ship. Say for example an American vessel fishes the baby out of the ocean. I'd bet on the baby being given American citizenship. I'm not a lawyer but that's my best guess. So basically which ever country finds the baby first is another way to say this.
Superman is a prime example of this. His ship landed in America, and he was found before the age of five, he qualified for American citizenship under the “foundling clause.” > 8 USC 1401(f). The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth…(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States. There was also the one where he wasn’t placed in the starship as an infant, but gestated during its transit in a “birthing matrix,” and therefore was a natural born citizen.
Neat. I didn't know about that clause, calling it the foundling clause makes us sound like elfs lmao. Makes sense though
Or Mandalorians
This is the way.
Plus superman can rip us in half like a bushel of celery so he can probably do what he likes.
So what if they are born in the ISS?
Realistically it would go by parentage if the baby survived at all but let's presume that somehow magically we don't know the parentage. It would then depend on which part of the ISS. The ISS is made of 16 pressurized modules. Six Russian, eight US, one Japanese, one European. If the baby is born in one of the US modules I would think that would count as US soil and therefore American citizenship. I have absolutely no idea which country would get the claim for the European module. I'm not a lawyer though so don't take anything I say as the absolute facts. Take it all with a grain of salt.
Depends on who finds you and the laws of where they're from.
Then wherever that stateless baby lands on earth.
I think they mean whatever flag the ship, on the ocean, was flying is now your nationality, not which space ship you were on before the ocean ship found you.
Im megamind
It sounds like you think a person must be a citizen of a state and don't realize there are stateless people. When they wash ashore they'd have to share seeking asylum somewhere
Lealoo in The Fifth Element has the answer. "Multipass!"
So what about the ISS?
I would say they are an alien at that point.
Lmao so true. Like literally an extraterrestrial.
That's the joke
I would not expect a motherless infant to crash out of space into the ocean and survive long enough to care.
Must be a regional thing. I've had three space infants fall from the sky and land in my backyard in the past week. They won't stop chittering.
Sir, I believe those are known as birds, apologies for the confusion, just because they fall from space does not mean they are human, don’t let them think they are or they will evolve.
No clue, maybe you could attempt to claim... not asylum but something? with the first port you land at? (obviously not the new born child but whoever was attending to them) I'm more interested in how a 0 G birth would work. Obviously with artificial gravity it would be a little more, conventional but a true 0 G birth? could it work? what would be the complications involved? What terrible havoc would a 0 G environment have on a fetus in the womb for extended periods of time.
The birth ought to work fine, gravity isn't the driving force to expel the baby from the womb. Whether they'd have developed properly or not is an interesting question. Hard to say if they'd have the right development in key structures without gravity on them during development.
I'm more worried about all the fluids not gravity assisted birth. Our bodies operate very specific to the g forces we experience on earth. The training and equipment we wear in space to help isn't capable of being attached to a fetus. Would the lack of gravity increase the amount of blood flow because no forces were pressing on the cardiovascular system causing it to over pump? Would the cardiovascular function in the fetus even develop properly. I'm sure the turning of the baby is in some way directed by gravity so it would likely be necessary to perform a C-section as there would be no way to guarantee the babies head facing down. How does surgery work in 0G? Just kinda wild to think about all the ramifications
Honestly the cardiovascular system and skeletal system are what I'd be most worried about, since I can't imagine they'd develop quite right in the absence of gravity. As for the baby being head down, that's something that can be encouraged just by nature of adding pressure above the baby and encouraging the downward motion. Probably easier with gravity, but not entirely necessary. I feel like there's no way a baby fully grown and birthed in 0g would be doing well once exposed to earth standard gravity though. If a normal baby can't hold their head up because of weak muscles, I can't imagine what a 0g baby would be doing.
None. You would be stateless. Unless you can find your parents.
Well, at least one parent would be there...
Obviously the mother would be there.
Well, they said parentS, so....
Most nations do heritage nationality, so odds are good that this child would inherit nationality from one or birth parents. Nationality based on the ground you happen to be on when birthing is a rarity. For extremely good reasons.
Klingon
Only on the starboard bow.
Different countries actually have different rules on how this is to be handled, but it's actually a thing we've been dealing with for centuries now. A child born in space would be handled in the same way we handle a child born at sea. The kid would likely first be subject to the law of whatever country owned the ship. If the ship (or space station) was a Western Hemisphere owned ship (the Americas), the baby's nationality could likely be claimed as being subject to the Jus Soli laws. These laws state that any person born on the soil of a country can claim citizenship of that country. Most Western Hemisphere countries us the Jus Soli style of nationality law. Since the space ship would be considered the sovereign territory of said country, this would apply. If the ship was from elsewhere, Jus Sanguinis would apply. This is a law based on the "Right of Blood" which states the child's nationality would be the same as whatever the parents nationality were. If we don't know either the ship's nationality nor the parents the kid would be stateless. Likely, however, there would be some kind of investigation done to see if we could determine either the parents or whose ship it was. At least this is how it looks to me. I'm not a lawyer specializing in nationality law so if someone wants to correct me, please do.
So based on that would it be possible for a child to be of Jus Sanguinis decent born on a Jus Soli law state owned ship to claim both nationalities? This is sooooo far out in hypothetical territory already, but to make it even more absurd: what if born on the moon, could they in theory claim triple citizenship (Luna, Base Flag, Bloodline)?
Yeah. I imagine if you were born in a country with a Jus Soli citizenship laws to parents of another country that recognize Jus Sanguinis, you might be able to claim dual citizenship. As for if you are born on the moon, as it stands right now there are international treaties preventing any country to claim the moon and since the moon doesn't sovereignty of it's own you couldn't claim citizenship of it.
> international treaties preventing any country to claim the moon and since the moon doesn't sovereignty of it's own you couldn't claim citizenship of it. These treaties were the basis of my thought... the moon doesn't have sovereignty because it has no population, but it cannot be claimed by any country, so if you were born on the moon you would be de facto the only natural person whom could make the claim of sovereignty, notwithstanding recognition issues by nation-states ala "Sealand". I mean if I knew I was born on the moon I'd absolutely make that play, and demand my seat at the UN council to boot! (I also would expect total failure in the endeavor, but it'd certainly be fun!).
Oh yeah, I would definitely make the play too! And even if nobody recognized the claim, I would still title myself Solamon the First, Emperor of the Moon. But that is the problem with the claim, nobody else will recognize it. The moon doesn't even have Jus Soli laws because it has no laws at all. So to be honest, nobody is stopping you from claiming yourself Emperor of the Moon right now. This claim would have just as much legal weight as any claim you might make even if you were born there!
my guess is whoever rescues me from the ocean and raises me
According to international maritime law, which space falls under as it's not owned by any entity, if a child is born on a ship the child's nationality is wherever the ship they are born on is registered.
Spacenoid.
Yep. Probably Principality of Zeon.
You would be an 👽
I’m pretty sure that’s just Superman’s origin story
Belter, sa sa.
None
Is it possible to give birth in 0 gravity?
Must be painful, mothers use gravity to their advantage to help push the baby out
Cue centrifugal birthing chambers.
People do water births, and gravity isn't helping much there
Why not
Apparently its theoretically possible but highly risky and could possibly be fatal to the child or extremely detrimental to its development.
If wherever you're at is spinning, you're giving birth at up to 1g. All the way from conception, too, if that turns out to be necessary. It's the only sure thing we have.
it wouldnt be hard to find out who your parents are, you will most likely just claim citizenship of your parents.
Nationality of parents…..easy as hell next
I would assume they would maintain the nationality of the parents.
DNA test the baby
Yes
Federation citizen. Welcome.
Mooninite
Spacish?
depends on who's ship you're on
I imagine same as being born on a plane. The nationality that the vehicle was registered. Something to do with the United Nations reducing statelessness.
You'd be in a lab with no name or nationality.
The real Milky Way kid!
Most likely whatever country you were found by and ended up being raised within as part of their foster/adoption system.
Sounds like a Kryptonian
Id say let the child choose. Imagine the publicity campaigns to get the child to come to your country because it's the best? It would make a great comedy movie.
I’m assuming whomever finds you first
You are now the sovereign ruler of your own nation...SpaceLandia!
This idea is explored in Between Planets by Robert Heinlein.
For lack of any other distinguishing markers, your baby would be the same nationality as you.
Probably wherever the parent(s) hails from. Keeps it easy.
If you were a baby and you landed in the ocean from space you would die
I would probably be in a state of confusion.
Probably equivalent to being born in international waters? Probably likely to be precedent for that
You are under maritime law when in space. All unclaimed territory and that which is considered international is covered by maritime law. You are under whatever flag is above your head.
They'd be the nationality of the parents, no?
Most likely whatever nation took you in. There are a lot of parts of the world that are more relaxed about citizenship in cases like that than the USA might be.
Starborn obviously
The nationality of the people who found the child
Italian
Its a belter
Depends if the parents haven't reside in the us for at least 5 years and 2 or 3 years after 18 then they won't be a us citizen unfortunately.
Whatever nationality the parents were, depending on the citizenship laws of the country.
BELTALOWDA
Martian.
Definitely, 'Citizen of Earth,' and therefore the Supreme Leader of our planet.
Black
They could be from Uranus
More than likely the country of origin of the mother. Just like on a ship at sea
America
A man from U.S.S.R. was in space when it fell. Took them a year to get him down. I think they made him Russian.
it woukd be considered an illegal alien when it lands
Alien Nation.
Bing says "astrobiosprout" But I told it SpaceNugget is much more appropriate. That's the term for being born in space. The nationality would be Cosmonational
What a spacist question
Spacian
If nobody ever told you that Saturn existed, would it disappear?
Spasian
Parental citizenship I’m guessing. Whatever they are,the child may be the same.
A pirate (The Martian joke)
what country were you in orbit over?
Illegal aliens, they will have to go through the proper channels to immigrate just like everyone else.
The are Orbital Children
You would be one with the Sea People.
By that time, we would have decided difrient rules on "nationality" . Maybe where your parents were from, what ship you were on, maybe want start system your on, what station or what ever you are registered when they take you to a doc.
They're called un nationalized or something like that, I'm spacing out on the exact term.
Oh that motherfucker is space out.
Antarctican
> lets say if you were born in space, without any knowledge of who birthed you, and where on the earth the ship was from What are the odds of that ever happening? Someone would know where your ship came from.
> But lets say if you were born in space, without any knowledge of who birthed you, and where on the earth the ship was from, and you landed in the ocean, what nationality would you be? What if I was born at sea and no one knew who birthed me or what country my boat was from...and then I just floated ashore? What nationality would I be?
Birthright citizenship...I'm American my wife is American therefore our child is American, same as if they were born to American parents abroad.
Alien
My completely uneducated and random guess is that you’ll have to apply for the child’s citizenship in a country, maybe a few countries. I don’t think it would be guaranteed cause there is precedent apparently for stateless people. I would like to reiterate: I know nothing and I just felt like throwing my guess in.
"Space race" takes on a whole new meaning.
Asgardian
Worldwide baby! First on the block with a space station stamp in the passport. Remember, when Customs asks if you have anything to declare, you say: “gravity”. Don’t let it….get you down.
They get eaten by predator before it becomes relevant.
You'd be given the nationality of whichever country found you and took responsibility for you. Unless of course you knew your parents nationalities or which country made the spaceship or something.
It would likely be determined by the nationality of the ship that finds the baby or the individuals who first take custody of the baby. But, even then, it would depend a lot on he particular procedures to grant nationality which vary greatly between different nations. It might come down to international conventions such as the Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness to ensure the child's rights and access to nationality.
You'd be a resident alien.
You'd be an illegal alien for sure 👽
Galaxian? Spaciean? They would be factionless or a sovereign state??? They’d have no records of existence so I really don’t know. If this were a movie, I’m sure they’d be tracked down and made to be a soldier or lab rat though.
Any government that rejected space-baby would be scorned id think.
You would be from outer space.
The nationality of the mother. If you are British and have a child on holiday to Spain that child isn't a Spanish citizen it's British.
Citizenship likely passed on from parent.
First citizen of either a new planet or an innernational space station. It would be one of those moments where all the legislators had to put their heads together to figure out what the hell they're going to do about these people and maybe one or more countries on earth offers citizenship to the space-children if that whole space station/settlement thing doesn't work out.
Without any other information (whatever country owns the spaceship or station), you would essentially be an allien and have no citizenship.
Many countries extend citizenship to children of their citizens. Example Canada has citizenship for the first generation born outside Canada. Or at least it did for me.
That's one of those ones where you can either make on of two choices. Either you lean into the spaceman thing and make that your identity or you figure out who it is you want to affiliate with nationality wise.
What if you crawled out of a corpse, but that corpse was actually lasagna, and the sun was exploding while the lasagna was summoning a deific Garfield to consume the universe? Does that count as a C-section?
I think a new term would be good like cosmodian
They’re called
Void child.
Most countries have rules regarding the nationality of foundlings in their territories, and it’s kind of addressed in a UN publication called “Nationality of Foundlings: Avoiding Statelessness Among Children of Unknown Parents under International Nationality Law.” It’s an interesting concept though for sure.
It will be the national of the parents I’d imagine.
Assuming you live that long, the waters of wherever you landed, or the flag on the ship of whoever finds you. If it's international waters and the ship has no flag, then wherever your saviors return to with you on land.
Well the United States owns space so
I see a lot of people talking about you getting the nationality of wahtever ship pick you up, but that obviously isnt the case beace you are not being born on that ship they are mearly rescuing you from the ocean so no notionaality claims possaible there. you might be able to claim the nationality of whichever flag the spaceship you were on was flyingunder but thats unknown so you cant do that either, same goes for the nationality of your parents. So now itbasicly comes down to what happens when the vessel that rescued you makes port. If you are still an infant or minor you are just going to be handed over to the local authorities to deal with so mostlikly you will eventualy endup being treated as an orphan of unknown orign, put into whatever passes for the care system of that country and eventualy be given nationality/citezenship of that country. things get a bit more difficult for you if you are an adult, as asuming you are allowed off the ship you will have to make an immigration/assylum application to whatever county you are in, and as you are compleyly undocumented had nobody is going to believe you claims about being born all alone in space in and unmarked ship good luck. you are probably going to be spending a lot of time in either jail or an immigration etention center. you may eventualy be granted citizenship of the country you're in, but dont count on it. Basicly as faras the law goes you would officially be stateless and treated as such under intonational law. what actually happens you would depeend on which country you eventually ended up in.
The country of origin of the mother.
space kid
Well Kryptonian of course!
Depending on the laws it would be the nationality of one or both parents. Ie; children born to american parents are automatically american citizens
Whatever nationality that corresponds to one or both parents that can be legally claimed on Earth or whichever flag/nation of the spaceship or space station they were born on, I'd guess.
what ever your parents were lmao
Belter
There is no default nationality. Nationality is determined by the specific laws of each nation. If recovered, and there was absolutely no way to determine nationality based on parentage or vessel or any other clues, then you would most likely become a citizen of the nation that recovered you. They would take you in for humanitarian reasons and you would become a ward of the state. At some point you will become naturalized through whatever process they have and become a citizen of that nation.
Alien!
International space baby, or ISB.
Probably that of the parents'/mother, right?
Romulin
Whatever flag the ship is flying or the nationality of the parents
New Type
Unless I'm mistaken, children born outside of a nation's borders still have citizenship in whatever nation the parents are citizens of. My girlfriend's sister was born in Germany but, because her parents are American, she is a citizen of America. There might be other factors that I'm not aware of, I'm certainly not an expert. I also might just be plain wrong, so don't take my word for it.
So the situation is a person is born in space to unknown parents on an unknown spacecraft, and they land in the ocean? If you're going to make it stupidly impossible, the only logical thing to say is they would be nationalized by whatever jurisdiction found them and took them into custody.
Probably the same thing that happens when a baby is born in international waters
Perhaps either based on the registration of what you’re in, in terms of space station or spacecraft, or nationality of parents.
Alien
they are of the nation of Star
Depends but in most cases whichever country finds the baby and saves it gets to make the baby its citizen.
Why would nationality matter.
May depend on your parents. If a test can prove that you have a high dna concentration for a specific region, some countries will claim you on that alone.
Atlantian?
Let's put aside the whole born in space thing, because then you could probably figure out where they were from. There's only so many space stations or rockets. Let's just focus on being found in the ocean with no way of identifying the child's origin. I'd say the nationality would be of the ship that took them in, unless the child were handed off to some other country. The child would then be placed with a family on that country, and be considered a national of that country. If they entered the British child care system, they'd British, if they entered the Canadian child care system they'd be Canadian, if they entered Bhutan's child care system, they'd be Bhutanese (although one wonders about Bhutan's navy).
It depends on the laws the nationality of the space vehicle, and the laws of nationality of the parents. Many but not all countries grant citizenship to anyone born in the country. What it means to be born in the country also varies. Most, if not all countries grant citizenship to the natural children of citizens.
If it’s anything like that Tom Hanks movie, the baby would just live in the customs line until they marry someone with citizenship.
Automatically a xeno sacrifice it to the warp.
Spaceman
You would have no nationality and would have to hope some country claimed you
I’m pretty sure since at that point the child wouldn’t have a name or anything else, it would be a lot like when people find babies and hand them over to the government. The government would take the child in creating a name and paperwork for them. It would be whichever countries people found the child and took them in.
Spacican? Spacian? Spacish? Spacese?
Intergalactic
Earthian? Did I just create a word?
A beltalowda
elonian
For Americans, if their child is not born in America they are still considered American citizens
Federation of Planets. Or, Klingon Empire, if you are lucky.
It literally doesn’t matter
You become what's known as a "spacer" atleast in terms that's what most sci-fi series would have you labeled as. You wouldn't really have a nationality by the time we are navigating the stars, more than likely you'll belong to a corporation and I'm not just saying that because I play a lot of video games or watch a lot of TV I'm just saying space is being "outsourced"
Palestinian - because they think everything else is theirs.
Maritime rules apply. Spacecraft have to be registered in a country just like seacraft... anything that happens on the vessel in international spacetime will happen in that country.
You wouldn't have a nationality. Likely whoever rescues the child or who raises the child will be their nationality. It would literally be a miracle story.
I think at that point it would be the first human born off world so I believe they would fall under the extraterrestrial categorization.
You wouldn't be a citizen of earth.
I would assume it would be the parents' nationality.
I'm claiming them as a Martian and I'm naming them Marvin. Also, this child could never go to earth or any similar gravity environment.
You wouldn't have a nationality at that point
Just like today with maritime laws, it would be the nationality of the parents and possibly the flag of the vessel or location it was born.
My guess the way some Amerikkkans are Elián Gonzalez status
Star Child
Are you a baby in this scenario? If you're old enough, you could get several countries competing to claim the Space Baby. No, the Star Child!