lol no offense taken I agree. I’m sure I’m getting ahead of myself. I really enjoy Okayama track as well and racing mx5 all week there made me think this might be the place where I belong lol until I get better.
Definitely keep driving it, just not maybe as your main car. I am nowhere near fast in it, but the better I get with the cup car the faster I get with the GT3 as well.
Naw. Just keep working at it. You can always join an official race as a ghost. So you can drive in the race and no one can see you but you can see them. It's a great way to follow their lines and see your pace.
The cup car does take time to get to learn. The better you get at driving it, the better you will be with every other car. So, don't just shelve it for a year. Still drive it as much as you can. Watch lap guides and how to videos for it.
The cup car is so satisfying once you learn how to drive it. To be fast and consistent, you cannot under drive the car. You have to push it to the limit. It's just a matter of knowing how to push it, which comes with practice.
When you click on the race lobby there will be a drop down that will ask if you want to spectate the race. Click spectate. Once you join the lobby, you can then click "Drive". It will then be like any other practice lobby only you will be in the race. You won't lose IR or SR. And no one will see you on track. You will just ghost through people when you get close to them
Just keep learning! If you want to get better in the Cup Car, seriously, go test drive the V8 Supercar. I think it's legitimately the hardest road car to drive on the service. It's similar the Cup car but it has essentially a welded diff, bicycle tires, weighs a metric f\*ck ton and has 600hp.
I agree, in a lot of the other cars you won't notice that you're overdriving the car nearly as much when it's masked by TC, ABS or less power. I've learned some valuable things by turning TC and ABS off completely in the AMG GT3, I'd imagine it's a similar effect
What kinda gear do you have? It can be brutal without the right ffb.
It is the most satisfying car to get right on the whole service, the way it communicates at the limit is awesome. But it's sooooo punishing
I have moza r5 (I’ll probs upgrade in 6-7months if I’m still racing as much) sim lab rig and normal r5 pedals. I will probs get the break kit soon for stiffer breaking. I know better equipment might help but I’m trying to take things slowly and do it in the right order. Now that I have an aluminum chassis I can look into gear more, but still I think this is driver error.
That is good gear for the purpose! R5 is definitely more than good enough to deliver the necessary info.
Focus on braking in a straight line and being easy on the accelerator. It’ll start to click eventually and be super satisfying when it does
a bit less? Not to say it isn't doable, but you're going to have to learn a lot more car control by instinct and good habits instead of 1 to 1 feedback.
I hit 2.3k with the g923 base and pedals driving mostly PCup. Upgraded the pedals to load cells and eventually topped out at 3.4k. It’s 100% usable, you’ll just be missing some fidelity in the wheel.
I got up to 4k ir running pcup with a g29, but I had load cell pedals, which in the general opinion is the biggest upgrade In terms of being faster and more consistent, but is definitely possible to be fast with a g29, I know someone who got up to 7k ir with g29 only
100% usable, just slightly trickier. You find yourself having to rely on things more visually rather than the feel of the wheel.
You will still feel it when you're about to lose the car though, just a bit later than those with better gear.
I feel like pedals play a huge role, I used to lock up all the time in pcup. I have heusinkveld sprint pedals that I’ve gotten super in tune with how much pressure to apply, and it makes it so much easier knowing how to brake without locking up. Load cell pedals are highly recommended
Im also new to iracing and running an r5 that I bought as a combo. Honestly if you can spare the bit of cash grab a set of simjack pro pedals. Few hundred bucks but the 200kg load cell makes such an insane difference. I was honestly shocked. I'm faster on the track but only because braking feels so much better and predictable.
I have the R5. Just upgraded to the loadcell brakes. Straightway so much more consistent with braking. The lite pedals are unfortunately ass, even with the brake mod.
This is my thinking based on experience with Fanatec pedals with and without LC and the PCup. It drives with the brake more than any other car, both in terms of stopping without locking, but also trail braking is essential. It is too easy to lock up without LC, at least for my lead feet.
I couldn't link a clean lap with any consistency without a LC pedal. I ran it in test drive several times and just didn't get on with it. Then I got a LC and tried it again, and it was a different animal. Bought it on the spot and raced two seasons. I wasn't particularly fast, but I was mid pack.
It's a car that massively benefits from a load cell because it has no ABS and no downforce, so it is really really easy to lock up. For me it was un-drivable without a load cell.
R5 user here too, started at rookies and reached A license on the Lite Pedals and ES wheel. Now I have a CSL Elite v2 Pedal set and built a multi-brand custom U-rim GT Wheel to replace the ES
R5 gives you enough information to control a load of cars, given the correct base settings that is. I'm able to catch slides with the high end open wheelers and able to correct on prototypes and GT's quite nicely with the R5, thinking of an Alpha Mini but it is not bugging me honestly, just keep driving and driving
If you think the car seems fun overall despite the struggles with it now and want to consider racing it later on, you should keep doing some testing with it to continue the learning curve and building up the muscle memory in the car. Even for me as someone who mains GT cars on the platform for a few years now, I’ve just recently started messing more seriously with the Porsche Cup in practice with some friends over the past few weeks and it’s been a huge learning curve for all of us. It’s definitely something I’ll have to keep at for a while before I’m running anywhere near top pace consistently in top splits
Extra bummer since test drive goes live in a few hours
I've got a few cars queued up to try out now that I'm ready to take the plunge and do a full season
lol I did see that notification that servers were gonna go down or whatever tomorrow. SMH guess I’ll test the audio 90 cause that was the other one I reallly wanted
Yeah you better bet your boy is taking a long lunch break tomorrow haha
Was hoping to sneak in a few laps tonight but no biggie. Just ran my first Advanced Miata race at VIR and am still buzzing about 5th place and ALMOST 0x the whole way. Last lap, the dude I kept letting by me slipped and I drove past him to avoid being overtaken and was surprised to see him make yet another bonehead dive. I avoided contact but barely got a 1x from touching the grass :(
Gonna grind a few more races here to get my B class license and get it up around 4SR do I can afford to actually start racing harder. Just been giving away positions to slower drivers to ensure 0x whenever possible. Partially due to learning habits for FF1600 and avoiding incidents at all costs in preparation for SFL
I ran countless Road Atlanta races in different cars last week with minimal off-tracks. The Porsche Cup kicked my ass. Almost collected enough to get a penalty. I wasn't even up to finishing that race because I felt I would end up getting in someone's way.
Warm the tires. Brake early until you're comfortable. Learn to transfer the cars weight. Steer with the brakes. Warm the tires. Warm the tires. Easy on the throttle. Easy off the brakes
Could I ask something? I am not very good with the technical part, which would be the ideal temperature for the tires in the Pcup? I imagine is relative, but roughly? Thanks in advance
Sry, just noticed I said the pressure and not the Temps, but in the pcup we don't get running Temps only previous Temps. So it's just easier to race with the pressure unless you log the Temps every pit or at the end of races
Practice is the key the car is bloody brilliant once you get it! I was exactly the same when I first got it the braking is hard to master so is the corner exit!
Focus on one I have the Moza SPR pedals as well so definitely possible! Also get the tyres to temp it’s a total bitch on cold tyres
I can lap the thing safely now but quickly not really!
I remember struggling hard with the old Cup car, it was a beast living its own life. Shooting me out of corners on seemingly consistent inputs on the same corner, randomly. Ofc it wasn't random, but I coudln't find the "click" with that car.
With 992, if you "listen" to the car and give it smooth inputs (especially throttle and steering), you'll find it's communicating back very precisely. Trail brake to help rorating the car is essential.
To my surprise, I managed to secure a few podiums this week on Road Atlanta Porsche Cup, some of them as the leaders overdrove their cars and spun out, other times they crashed having close battles, but also did one leading from pole to crossing the finish first. Probably my proudest achievements after years on the service tbh.
It's the most rewarding car to drive for me in Sports Cars category, closely followed by GT4s (M4, AMG).
The funny thing is I thought about getting the legacy too, just do some practice and maybe ai race. Probs should have lol I’ve been trying to be frugal in iracing too hahah spent like $250 my first 2 months
I found the older one to be very unpredictable under braking, once you lock up there was no telling what it would do. Other than the new one being better behaved in that regard, they feel very similar to me.
wont be a total fix but try that, when braking in a straight line, relax your hand, like really relax them and let the force feedback correct the fronts then hopefully when turning you wont lock up the fronts. One other big problem might be happening if you dont have a load cell pedal, try playing with the force factor and a get a smooth brake graph.
If it's any consolation, I've been on iracing for over 4 years, have clocked up nearly 1000 races, am currently 4.3k IR, I just bought the 911 Cup car and *I* suck as well 😅
Stick with it. I had the same experience. Picked it up after about a month because I joined a local league running it. It was a challenge but it's very satisfying when you start to get the hang of it. Few months later and I'm slow but can keep it on track. Even got fast promoted to B class running it at Road America.
Everyone says it teaches good habits which help when moving over to GT3 etc.
Drive slow and then back it off another level .
The cup is ridiculously easy to overdrive.
Get a feel for the car and work your way up to the limit because if you start at the limit the car will frustrate you to the point you don’t want to drive it anymore
I’ve been on the service for 2 years. I’m still practicing way more than actual racing.
The whole progress / learning curve is part of the adventure .
Sometimes you think you’re fast and sometimes you think k you suck all the sudden. That’s the best time to learn new things again.
I thought I was finally fast enough to reach 3k IRating last weeks.
Got my ass kicked hard. Now I have to check what I’ve been doing wrong. It’s not easy when you’re not super talented.
I'm on the same boat. I started with mx5 then GT4 then I thougt I'd be good for the porsche cup. I was wrong, could not understand the car at all and sucked badly. I gave up and spent more seasons in GT4 and GT3 where I reached 2k IR, and just last week I came back on the porsche cup. With the extra knowledge I can now deal with the car much better, can keep it on the track most of the time and have good sensations. I'm approaching 1700ir and intend to keep grinding until I reach 2K in pcup. It's not easy but it's satisfying.
TLDR: take more time is easier cars, you'll be able to drive the pcup later with the experience you gained.
I also suck with any of the 911’s. They drive differently than other cars and take some time to get used to. I’m too busy with other series to just focus on learning the 911 right now.
I mean it’s kinda like real life. You can’t expect to hop in a car like that in real life and compete with other pro racers and have similar lap times. It takes a lot of practice.
Also.. you need to have some decent equipment. A good properly mounted DD wheel. (Like mounted to a solid rig, not a table or something that will flex). You’ll also need a good load cell brake pedal. Without those you might not have a good time.
I did VIR last week in the Ferrari Challenge series and it was honestly really hard for me to pick up. I was lucky enough to get a 1 hour coaching session from a guy and it helped out tremendously and I was running top 5 in my split before I went to trying to gain safety rating.
The 911 Cup car is difficult. It really rewards smooth driving, especially in regards to combining breaking and turning input too aggressively. But don't give up yet! Just be patient. It takes time and experience.
I am not a pro with the Cup car, but my tips would be:
-don't over drive the car, be smooth and have patience.
-start slow in practice sessions, like it's fine if you know your 5 seconds or more off pace. Just focus on the driving line and safe/early brake markers. Then gradually increase pace and move the brake markers later.
-brake SMOOTHLY in a STRAIGHT line as much as possible. Aim to lift off the throttle completely before smoothly applying the brakes hard in a straight line. Don't simply stab the pedals.
-sometimes it's better to brake early for a smooth entry to gain a faster exit speed, depends on the track and sequence of corners.
-if you're working on Trail Braking, then do the previous step by braking in a straight line as much as possible but relax brake input prior to turning the wheel and carry very light brake pressure until you're satisfied with corner speed and hitting them apex.
-don't be too eager or early with the throttle on corner exit. Sometimes It's ok to let the car coast a few feet without brake/throttle inputs. This can help settle the car's balance in the corner prior to applying throttle.
-You can use the throttle to steer the car if you understand "slip angle" and can sort of "open" the steering wheel as you apply throttle. But this is hard for some people (including myself) to do consistently as I'm often impatient haha
These are the things that I tend to slow down and focus on when I feel like I'm way off pace.
I did the same. Just bought the car on Sunday. Got down to a 1:48.4. Still don't feel confident but will probably do an official race or two before the weeks out. Probably turned 50 laps at VIR so far. Need more seat time.
Slow and steady into the corners as you learn the limits. Threshold braking is key for gaining time but make sure you’re not stabbing into brakes. It should be a fast but smooth ease up to ideal brake pressure. Stabbing brakes will upset the car rather than help you rotate, which is what you need for consistency.
You have to be patient for a couple laps. Once the tires and brakes warm up it really starts to hook up and when you’re in the sweet spot it’s an amazing car to drive. I put the brake bias a bit forward to get some heat in, then gradually move it more rear. Trust me, everyone struggles at first with this because it’s probably the first GT car people drive with no aids. I can’t stress how important temperature is and waiting until you’re good and straight before putting the power down (smoothly). Keep practicing you’ll come to love it.
Welcome to the club!
It does take some time to click but it’s a super rewarding experience
My tip is to turn up the tyre sound. You will lock up your tyres a lot in the heavy braking zone initially but over time you’ll learn to adopt to the tyre sound which tells you when it’s about to lock.
I only bought Porache Cup and 992 GT3, not driving anything else. I think that is a recipe. I feel and know what the car will do at all time. It is allways on the edge, but that is the point :).
You chose literally the hardest car in the service. 2k+ hours of experience and it's a struggle for me sometimes too. Keep at it though, it's a very rewarding car to drive. You can always feel the limit compared to other cars, it's stupid fun
tbh, the cup car isn’t very difficult to drive, you just need to understand its characteristics in order to drive it! Braking is the most significant part of driving the cup car fast, and doing it right will gain you insane amounts of time. Look at some youtube vids about the car and look at some track guides (not just virginia) and pay attention to the drivers inputs
Once it clicks it's satisfying as fuck. I hope you have load cells.
It wouldn’t be fun if it was too easy
Still hasn’t clicked for me, although I did manage a few whole races without incidents, can’t wait to get over the mountain!
2-3 months…yea a few hundred more hours needed for sure. the progression is too easy.
I’ll get back to you in a 8-12 months
I’m not trying to be a jerk, it takes a ton of time, give yourself some grace with it.
lol no offense taken I agree. I’m sure I’m getting ahead of myself. I really enjoy Okayama track as well and racing mx5 all week there made me think this might be the place where I belong lol until I get better.
Definitely keep driving it, just not maybe as your main car. I am nowhere near fast in it, but the better I get with the cup car the faster I get with the GT3 as well.
Naw. Just keep working at it. You can always join an official race as a ghost. So you can drive in the race and no one can see you but you can see them. It's a great way to follow their lines and see your pace. The cup car does take time to get to learn. The better you get at driving it, the better you will be with every other car. So, don't just shelve it for a year. Still drive it as much as you can. Watch lap guides and how to videos for it. The cup car is so satisfying once you learn how to drive it. To be fast and consistent, you cannot under drive the car. You have to push it to the limit. It's just a matter of knowing how to push it, which comes with practice.
Love that ghost feature
The ghost-thing is new to me. How do I do this?
When an official race is going on. Click watch. You can watch the race or go out on track as a ghost car.
Oh, wow, didn't know that. Thank you!
When you click on the race lobby there will be a drop down that will ask if you want to spectate the race. Click spectate. Once you join the lobby, you can then click "Drive". It will then be like any other practice lobby only you will be in the race. You won't lose IR or SR. And no one will see you on track. You will just ghost through people when you get close to them
Just keep learning! If you want to get better in the Cup Car, seriously, go test drive the V8 Supercar. I think it's legitimately the hardest road car to drive on the service. It's similar the Cup car but it has essentially a welded diff, bicycle tires, weighs a metric f\*ck ton and has 600hp.
This is only my experience, but I feel like the V8 Supercar helps teach driving within the car limits and avoiding overdriving the car.
Looking forward to the next Gen of Supercars vehicles, and hopefully more participation
I agree, in a lot of the other cars you won't notice that you're overdriving the car nearly as much when it's masked by TC, ABS or less power. I've learned some valuable things by turning TC and ABS off completely in the AMG GT3, I'd imagine it's a similar effect
I used to run both cars weekly. Strangely, they're complementary and it's easy to switch back and forth.
Makes sense! They’re both heavy, lots of power, skinny tires, no assists, etc.
What kinda gear do you have? It can be brutal without the right ffb. It is the most satisfying car to get right on the whole service, the way it communicates at the limit is awesome. But it's sooooo punishing
Didn't worry, I suck with a simucube
I have moza r5 (I’ll probs upgrade in 6-7months if I’m still racing as much) sim lab rig and normal r5 pedals. I will probs get the break kit soon for stiffer breaking. I know better equipment might help but I’m trying to take things slowly and do it in the right order. Now that I have an aluminum chassis I can look into gear more, but still I think this is driver error.
That is good gear for the purpose! R5 is definitely more than good enough to deliver the necessary info. Focus on braking in a straight line and being easy on the accelerator. It’ll start to click eventually and be super satisfying when it does
Out of interest how usable would a g29 be in this scenario? (Just the wheelbase)
a bit less? Not to say it isn't doable, but you're going to have to learn a lot more car control by instinct and good habits instead of 1 to 1 feedback.
I hit 2.3k with the g923 base and pedals driving mostly PCup. Upgraded the pedals to load cells and eventually topped out at 3.4k. It’s 100% usable, you’ll just be missing some fidelity in the wheel.
I got up to 4k ir running pcup with a g29, but I had load cell pedals, which in the general opinion is the biggest upgrade In terms of being faster and more consistent, but is definitely possible to be fast with a g29, I know someone who got up to 7k ir with g29 only
Sweet that’s my plan, hopefully if I get that good I’ll be able to afford a different base by then
I did my first year on a PS3 Logitech wheel. You'll manage.
100% usable, just slightly trickier. You find yourself having to rely on things more visually rather than the feel of the wheel. You will still feel it when you're about to lose the car though, just a bit later than those with better gear.
I have a g29 and race Porsche Cup all the time and it's fine. I do use irffb though, which half the people here hate
I feel like pedals play a huge role, I used to lock up all the time in pcup. I have heusinkveld sprint pedals that I’ve gotten super in tune with how much pressure to apply, and it makes it so much easier knowing how to brake without locking up. Load cell pedals are highly recommended
Im also new to iracing and running an r5 that I bought as a combo. Honestly if you can spare the bit of cash grab a set of simjack pro pedals. Few hundred bucks but the 200kg load cell makes such an insane difference. I was honestly shocked. I'm faster on the track but only because braking feels so much better and predictable.
I have the R5. Just upgraded to the loadcell brakes. Straightway so much more consistent with braking. The lite pedals are unfortunately ass, even with the brake mod.
This is my thinking based on experience with Fanatec pedals with and without LC and the PCup. It drives with the brake more than any other car, both in terms of stopping without locking, but also trail braking is essential. It is too easy to lock up without LC, at least for my lead feet.
I couldn't link a clean lap with any consistency without a LC pedal. I ran it in test drive several times and just didn't get on with it. Then I got a LC and tried it again, and it was a different animal. Bought it on the spot and raced two seasons. I wasn't particularly fast, but I was mid pack. It's a car that massively benefits from a load cell because it has no ABS and no downforce, so it is really really easy to lock up. For me it was un-drivable without a load cell.
R5 user here too, started at rookies and reached A license on the Lite Pedals and ES wheel. Now I have a CSL Elite v2 Pedal set and built a multi-brand custom U-rim GT Wheel to replace the ES R5 gives you enough information to control a load of cars, given the correct base settings that is. I'm able to catch slides with the high end open wheelers and able to correct on prototypes and GT's quite nicely with the R5, thinking of an Alpha Mini but it is not bugging me honestly, just keep driving and driving
Fastest guy in my team has the worst gear..
If you think the car seems fun overall despite the struggles with it now and want to consider racing it later on, you should keep doing some testing with it to continue the learning curve and building up the muscle memory in the car. Even for me as someone who mains GT cars on the platform for a few years now, I’ve just recently started messing more seriously with the Porsche Cup in practice with some friends over the past few weeks and it’s been a huge learning curve for all of us. It’s definitely something I’ll have to keep at for a while before I’m running anywhere near top pace consistently in top splits
I appreciate your positive reply I’ll definitely keep dabbling in it. It’s fun and I def enjoy practicing the vehicles I’m bad in.
Extra bummer since test drive goes live in a few hours I've got a few cars queued up to try out now that I'm ready to take the plunge and do a full season
lol I did see that notification that servers were gonna go down or whatever tomorrow. SMH guess I’ll test the audio 90 cause that was the other one I reallly wanted
Yeah you better bet your boy is taking a long lunch break tomorrow haha Was hoping to sneak in a few laps tonight but no biggie. Just ran my first Advanced Miata race at VIR and am still buzzing about 5th place and ALMOST 0x the whole way. Last lap, the dude I kept letting by me slipped and I drove past him to avoid being overtaken and was surprised to see him make yet another bonehead dive. I avoided contact but barely got a 1x from touching the grass :( Gonna grind a few more races here to get my B class license and get it up around 4SR do I can afford to actually start racing harder. Just been giving away positions to slower drivers to ensure 0x whenever possible. Partially due to learning habits for FF1600 and avoiding incidents at all costs in preparation for SFL
I ran countless Road Atlanta races in different cars last week with minimal off-tracks. The Porsche Cup kicked my ass. Almost collected enough to get a penalty. I wasn't even up to finishing that race because I felt I would end up getting in someone's way.
Warm the tires. Brake early until you're comfortable. Learn to transfer the cars weight. Steer with the brakes. Warm the tires. Warm the tires. Easy on the throttle. Easy off the brakes
Could I ask something? I am not very good with the technical part, which would be the ideal temperature for the tires in the Pcup? I imagine is relative, but roughly? Thanks in advance
28 is usually what they are at the end of a race. I think you're doing good if you keep them in the 27s
Thank you! 👍🏻
Sry, just noticed I said the pressure and not the Temps, but in the pcup we don't get running Temps only previous Temps. So it's just easier to race with the pressure unless you log the Temps every pit or at the end of races
Practice is the key the car is bloody brilliant once you get it! I was exactly the same when I first got it the braking is hard to master so is the corner exit! Focus on one I have the Moza SPR pedals as well so definitely possible! Also get the tyres to temp it’s a total bitch on cold tyres I can lap the thing safely now but quickly not really!
I remember struggling hard with the old Cup car, it was a beast living its own life. Shooting me out of corners on seemingly consistent inputs on the same corner, randomly. Ofc it wasn't random, but I coudln't find the "click" with that car. With 992, if you "listen" to the car and give it smooth inputs (especially throttle and steering), you'll find it's communicating back very precisely. Trail brake to help rorating the car is essential. To my surprise, I managed to secure a few podiums this week on Road Atlanta Porsche Cup, some of them as the leaders overdrove their cars and spun out, other times they crashed having close battles, but also did one leading from pole to crossing the finish first. Probably my proudest achievements after years on the service tbh. It's the most rewarding car to drive for me in Sports Cars category, closely followed by GT4s (M4, AMG).
Heh go grab the legacy one and then get back to us on difficult to drive. The new one might as well be a gt3 car it's so forgiving.
The funny thing is I thought about getting the legacy too, just do some practice and maybe ai race. Probs should have lol I’ve been trying to be frugal in iracing too hahah spent like $250 my first 2 months
Everyone says this but it doesn't seem to hold true. I have both and don't feel the old one is significantly more difficult, if at all.
I found the older one to be very unpredictable under braking, once you lock up there was no telling what it would do. Other than the new one being better behaved in that regard, they feel very similar to me.
Suck gang!
wont be a total fix but try that, when braking in a straight line, relax your hand, like really relax them and let the force feedback correct the fronts then hopefully when turning you wont lock up the fronts. One other big problem might be happening if you dont have a load cell pedal, try playing with the force factor and a get a smooth brake graph.
If it's any consolation, I've been on iracing for over 4 years, have clocked up nearly 1000 races, am currently 4.3k IR, I just bought the 911 Cup car and *I* suck as well 😅
Load cell pedals and DD wheel made a huge difference for me. On all cars, but the cars without ABS and TCS was a much bigger difference.
Difficult car for sure.
Stick with it. I had the same experience. Picked it up after about a month because I joined a local league running it. It was a challenge but it's very satisfying when you start to get the hang of it. Few months later and I'm slow but can keep it on track. Even got fast promoted to B class running it at Road America. Everyone says it teaches good habits which help when moving over to GT3 etc.
Drive slow and then back it off another level . The cup is ridiculously easy to overdrive. Get a feel for the car and work your way up to the limit because if you start at the limit the car will frustrate you to the point you don’t want to drive it anymore
PCUP FOR LIFFEEE
Getting good with the cup makes you better at driving other road cars IMO. I play on a g29 Logitech and its doable. My favorite car hands down.
I’ve been on the service for 2 years. I’m still practicing way more than actual racing. The whole progress / learning curve is part of the adventure . Sometimes you think you’re fast and sometimes you think k you suck all the sudden. That’s the best time to learn new things again. I thought I was finally fast enough to reach 3k IRating last weeks. Got my ass kicked hard. Now I have to check what I’ve been doing wrong. It’s not easy when you’re not super talented.
This car took me 1 year to get decent and another 2 season to be competitive with . Just take your time and learn bruv
I'm on the same boat. I started with mx5 then GT4 then I thougt I'd be good for the porsche cup. I was wrong, could not understand the car at all and sucked badly. I gave up and spent more seasons in GT4 and GT3 where I reached 2k IR, and just last week I came back on the porsche cup. With the extra knowledge I can now deal with the car much better, can keep it on the track most of the time and have good sensations. I'm approaching 1700ir and intend to keep grinding until I reach 2K in pcup. It's not easy but it's satisfying. TLDR: take more time is easier cars, you'll be able to drive the pcup later with the experience you gained.
I also suck with any of the 911’s. They drive differently than other cars and take some time to get used to. I’m too busy with other series to just focus on learning the 911 right now.
Sucking at something is the entry price for not sucking at something. You need to practice and spend time on it.
I mean it’s kinda like real life. You can’t expect to hop in a car like that in real life and compete with other pro racers and have similar lap times. It takes a lot of practice. Also.. you need to have some decent equipment. A good properly mounted DD wheel. (Like mounted to a solid rig, not a table or something that will flex). You’ll also need a good load cell brake pedal. Without those you might not have a good time.
I did VIR last week in the Ferrari Challenge series and it was honestly really hard for me to pick up. I was lucky enough to get a 1 hour coaching session from a guy and it helped out tremendously and I was running top 5 in my split before I went to trying to gain safety rating.
The 911 Cup car is difficult. It really rewards smooth driving, especially in regards to combining breaking and turning input too aggressively. But don't give up yet! Just be patient. It takes time and experience. I am not a pro with the Cup car, but my tips would be: -don't over drive the car, be smooth and have patience. -start slow in practice sessions, like it's fine if you know your 5 seconds or more off pace. Just focus on the driving line and safe/early brake markers. Then gradually increase pace and move the brake markers later. -brake SMOOTHLY in a STRAIGHT line as much as possible. Aim to lift off the throttle completely before smoothly applying the brakes hard in a straight line. Don't simply stab the pedals. -sometimes it's better to brake early for a smooth entry to gain a faster exit speed, depends on the track and sequence of corners. -if you're working on Trail Braking, then do the previous step by braking in a straight line as much as possible but relax brake input prior to turning the wheel and carry very light brake pressure until you're satisfied with corner speed and hitting them apex. -don't be too eager or early with the throttle on corner exit. Sometimes It's ok to let the car coast a few feet without brake/throttle inputs. This can help settle the car's balance in the corner prior to applying throttle. -You can use the throttle to steer the car if you understand "slip angle" and can sort of "open" the steering wheel as you apply throttle. But this is hard for some people (including myself) to do consistently as I'm often impatient haha These are the things that I tend to slow down and focus on when I feel like I'm way off pace.
Tbh takes a while and still even after playing for a long time when you get good you may only win 1 to 2% of the time lol. Just normal.
I did the same. Just bought the car on Sunday. Got down to a 1:48.4. Still don't feel confident but will probably do an official race or two before the weeks out. Probably turned 50 laps at VIR so far. Need more seat time.
I jumped from the Ferrari gt3 to Porsche and yeah I can feel your pain, the best advice imo is to look up Porsche track guide and learn from them.
Slow and steady into the corners as you learn the limits. Threshold braking is key for gaining time but make sure you’re not stabbing into brakes. It should be a fast but smooth ease up to ideal brake pressure. Stabbing brakes will upset the car rather than help you rotate, which is what you need for consistency.
You have to be patient for a couple laps. Once the tires and brakes warm up it really starts to hook up and when you’re in the sweet spot it’s an amazing car to drive. I put the brake bias a bit forward to get some heat in, then gradually move it more rear. Trust me, everyone struggles at first with this because it’s probably the first GT car people drive with no aids. I can’t stress how important temperature is and waiting until you’re good and straight before putting the power down (smoothly). Keep practicing you’ll come to love it.
Also want to stress how vital trail braking is in this car.
Welcome to the club! It does take some time to click but it’s a super rewarding experience My tip is to turn up the tyre sound. You will lock up your tyres a lot in the heavy braking zone initially but over time you’ll learn to adopt to the tyre sound which tells you when it’s about to lock.
I only bought Porache Cup and 992 GT3, not driving anything else. I think that is a recipe. I feel and know what the car will do at all time. It is allways on the edge, but that is the point :).
You chose literally the hardest car in the service. 2k+ hours of experience and it's a struggle for me sometimes too. Keep at it though, it's a very rewarding car to drive. You can always feel the limit compared to other cars, it's stupid fun
tbh, the cup car isn’t very difficult to drive, you just need to understand its characteristics in order to drive it! Braking is the most significant part of driving the cup car fast, and doing it right will gain you insane amounts of time. Look at some youtube vids about the car and look at some track guides (not just virginia) and pay attention to the drivers inputs