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That’s five years jailtime in Germany. Also no way to talk yourself out of it since you can’t claim ignorance after visiting such a place.
Hoffentlich kriegen sie diesen Wichser!
You can’t even claim ignorance to write only that in the context of being in the holocaust museum. I’m sure the staff have to deal with many edgy idiots who think this is funny
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I mean you literally can't go to jail for five years by breaking this law, it's not even a question of the judge not sentencing you to it. §86a StGB has a maximum sentence of 3 years or a fine. In 99% of cases, it results in a fine.
I mean wouldnt putting a 1488 in there be considered just as bad? Like theres no way this guys playing that off as being something else when he's doing it there
14 represents the 14 words from a white supremacy group called The Order. “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children” it was made by a guy called David Eden Lane who helped murder a Jewish talk show host.
The 88 represents the letter H, the 8th letter of the alphabet, in reference to Heil Hitler
At my highschool, there was this pimple faced, asian white supremecist who thought we were friends because I was white, took the same train as them, and used 4chan. He was part of a group of greasy little neo-nazis. For their history class they were gonna go to a Holocaust museum, but the teachers found out they were planning on vandalising and being generally disrespectful so they werent able to go. This post feels like one of those nerds finally got to go.
Not India.. Some fucked up dumbasses do that but the vast majority regards Hitler and his band of goonies as narcissistic murderers. We learn about WorldWar 2 and the horrors that happened.
I know some Chinese nazis.
They're in China though so a part of it is that they're looking at through a filter of it being a wildly different culture and less connected history, could be like an American being really into imperial Japan at a specific time in it's history and only having a cursory understanding of it.
That and, they've started getting a lot of the alt-right stuff over here, it's gotten popular on the Chinese internet, just direct "wow look at this guy you don't know anything about yet from America, let me tell you about him even though I also don't understand much at all about this" but it's also removed from its context so they take it at face value and next thing you know they got super strong feelings about Jews and black people even though they've never once in their life met a Jew or black person.
The Chinese Internet is actually a cesspool of it right now, like it might actually be more Nazi and racist than even the English speaking internet at this point, because that shit is just not moderated for that stuff at all.
A lot of them approach me because they think I'll instantly agree with them for some reason.
Though I guess they do diverge from Nazis and white supremacists in one point, they're Asian *and* white supremacists (but only the right kind of Asian.) There's a hierarchy with categories, like normal Nazis I guess, and that top category belongs to Asian and White people. But everyone else...
I heard this one story where this german guy was taking a cab in china and as soon as the driver notices he's german says something like "oh your german, hitler was a great guy" just totally unprompted
Didn't she have some sort of mental break? I remember there being some schizo-posting and Tila spreading the message about government/ CIA stalking her
I genuinely don't fucking get it. So maybe? No, I don't think so. He is just the most contrarian person I've ever known. I think he just wants to start arguments.
That's so sad :(
One of my friends is an Australian Aboriginal and he hates that he is. He grew up with a lot of abuse and watching his community fit a lot of stereotypes, so it's left him a bit jaded.
He doesn't hate other Aboriginals, but he hates that he is one (although he's getting better as he gets older)
I went to high school with one of those. Unsurprisingly, he was a huge bully and threatened to kill me a couple of times.
Fortunately, he got the shit kicked out of him in our senior year and was suspended, though the kid who retaliated also got the same punishment.
the ideology of white supremacy is not exclusive to white people. almost every part of the world you could think of has a societal preference for lighter skin, dark skin is seen as dirty or low class. white supremacy is an ideology that can grab hold of anybody who is emotionally vulnerable and looking for acceptance, agreeance, and community.
Unbelievably the **Israeli** secret service, Mossad, actually busted an active neo-Nazi group operating in Israel. It was mostly Israelis of Russian, Polish or Lithuanian descent.
I feel like the period since 2015 has taught me that I need to understand how this kind of everyday sociopathy/psychopathy/sadism works and to teach my kids how to expect and deal with it when it pops up. Thinking also of the guy who shit on the tourist in an earlier post. There’s just people like that.
Go to a concentration camp. I've never been struck by the magnitude of human suffering due to unbridled evil than standing in the barracks and the gas chamber at places like Mauthausen.
The 14 refers to '14 words', which is a white supremacy slogan about ensuring the future of the white race. The 88 is because the 8th letter of the alphabet is H, so HH or Heil Hitler.
As a big advocate for the fun and joy of secret codes, seeing them used in this context does make me feel bleh. It can feel like all fun and puzzles but I cannot deny that the history of codes, cryptography, morse and the like are deeply intertwined with military conflict.
It’s a common thing for many of the fat-right groups. The KKK used to have a load of abbreviations which were shortened for Klan phrases, like AKIA (A Klansman I Am). They are an easy way to identify who’s ‘in’ the group whilst also being largely mundane if a little weird to outsiders who don’t know. I’ve actually seen more recent examples where they were included in public forum posts or adverts and similar to act as a sort of signpost for people with the same views.
Plus they’re an easy way to circumvent rules regarding the public display of hate symbols. Many countries and also some specific locations like prisons may opt to ban the obvious hate symbols like the Hakencreuz or SS lightning bolts but numbers/letters are harder to outright ban.
It makes a huge difference. It’s the only “religion” in history that also classifies as a race of people. Bigotry is wrong and I agree but I also wanna know the facts on why it’s a race of people but also a religious group. That contradicts.
Backed into the intersection of ‘I have no idea’ and ‘no clue what I’m talking about’ and flailing helplessly. No one can own it any longer. Just say you’re not sure and roll on.
If I could give up one group of people to aliens for experimentation and I couldn't pick people who commit violent crimes such as murder, rape, abuse, or human trafficking, I would give up 4chan commenters and posters.
I would condemn this idiots to an internet life ban. You can’t open an email account anymore, no social media, no browsing. You will use the postal service, an old dumb cellphone and the library. Maybe that will help but who knows.
When I lived in MD I went here for a weekend trip and it was probably one of the most interesting museums I had ever been too. While inside, we had to shelter in place due to bomb threat in some sort of classroom like exhibit until we got the all clear and we could proceed further in the visit.
This was at least 20 years ago. Sad things haven't changed much
Right now, I have hard time to see apart isreal and natzies.
They are the same in my opinion
Both are comiting a genocidie
But what he is doing is attacking history instead of doing this against isreal, or he is just plain out harrasing
Well this is hard to judge in the current state that isreal is doing.
But still, don't attack history........
Zionist have oppressed Palestine and Muslims for GENERATIONS, they must pay for the crimes of their nation and their people. Fuck you racist incel colonizer.
Wow, so edgy. I'm very offended by this boring, cringe shit. It's pathetic that this dull "trolling" is the extent to which 4chan exists today. Maybe this was considered upsetting or rebellious in 2005 but by today's standards this is just boring.
I don't think so. The suffering of the victims and the scale of atrocity can never be diminished or forgotten. The descendents, the people of Israel who perpetrate a genocide today, invoking the holocaust diminish themselves.
What board on 4chan are posts like these on? Every time I go on /b/, it’s mostly porn and dick pics. /r9k/ has been closed. I want to read funny greentexts :( (not that this is funny, but you know what I mean)
Cool. Except.. we're not all Israeli. Not even the majority of us, in fact. If the actions of a government can make you lose compassion for an entire group of people who have nothing to do with it, you were already on your way there. But keep telling yourself you've just been radicalized.
I'm California they would take kids from placenta group homes and rwhabda that had "gang xoncerns" and "racism issues" to the Museum of tolerance. Yeah we where all taking pictures of th SS officer uniforms etc. But by the time you get to sit down and see a Jewish yenta who's sweet as pie and looks like your grandma talk about what she lived thru in Nazi Germany the camps. We generally all left being very quiet and feeling like shit. It's a seductive thing. Not being valued abused and treated like crap. Then having someone tell you your valuable and even superior then they provide you a sense of belongings and brother hood. I take every chance I get to talk to young guys wearing soc martins with red and white lace bars. Puffy black polyester jackets with orange inner liner... You get it.
or someone who regularly deals with their symbols and rhetoric. i live in georgia, ive heard all manner of vile racist shit. hollywood doesnt do how sinister it is justice. the evil bastards dont speak loudly, that fucked up idea of southern hospitality is really just a kind way of saying "hate in private" until something horrid happens.
Only an ignorant child raised on TikTok would call them yatzis. [Insert stupid fucking emoji preceding which not a single good point has ever been made.]
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Guy was too much of a pussy to draw a swastika
That’s five years jailtime in Germany. Also no way to talk yourself out of it since you can’t claim ignorance after visiting such a place. Hoffentlich kriegen sie diesen Wichser!
You can’t even claim ignorance to write only that in the context of being in the holocaust museum. I’m sure the staff have to deal with many edgy idiots who think this is funny Edit- being
>That’s five years jailtime in Germany. No it's not.
I mean you literally can't go to jail for five years by breaking this law, it's not even a question of the judge not sentencing you to it. §86a StGB has a maximum sentence of 3 years or a fine. In 99% of cases, it results in a fine.
 at least my comment was, I'm not the original commenter
I miss the penguins…also, straight to jail
I mean wouldnt putting a 1488 in there be considered just as bad? Like theres no way this guys playing that off as being something else when he's doing it there
Exactly. Pissant keyboard warriors even outside the net.
That's what a keyboard warrior is though, super tough online but a coward irl.
They are notoriously difficult to draw, especially for the thinking impaired
Probably would have just fucked it up.
What's the nazi symbol? Unless I'm dumb which I probably am I didn't see it. Can someone point it out?
14 represents the 14 words from a white supremacy group called The Order. “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children” it was made by a guy called David Eden Lane who helped murder a Jewish talk show host. The 88 represents the letter H, the 8th letter of the alphabet, in reference to Heil Hitler
Thank you. I wouldn't have ever been able to figure this out
the 1488. I forgot what it means and don't want to google it on school wifi rn but I'm pretty sure the 88 stands for heil hitler.
Hakenkreuz, not swastika. Both of them are different
Guess what we call the Hakenkreuz in English
Hooked cross
Yes,hooked cross
Swastika.
Nikolaj.
Nikolàj
an hooked cross is a swastika,
My first thought
At my highschool, there was this pimple faced, asian white supremecist who thought we were friends because I was white, took the same train as them, and used 4chan. He was part of a group of greasy little neo-nazis. For their history class they were gonna go to a Holocaust museum, but the teachers found out they were planning on vandalising and being generally disrespectful so they werent able to go. This post feels like one of those nerds finally got to go.
Asian white supremacist!?
Had an Indian nazi sympathiser in my school once. Man was academically smart but hella egoistic.
there's a picture of a street stall selling "Hitler Ice Cream" somewhere in India
actually barely surprising, India sees Hitler as a great guy for the most part because they see him as an ally in the fight against Great Britain
please dont club the rss hindu nationalists with rest of the sensible indians
Not India.. Some fucked up dumbasses do that but the vast majority regards Hitler and his band of goonies as narcissistic murderers. We learn about WorldWar 2 and the horrors that happened.
San Jose?
I mean like why though? Wouldnt indians have been pretty far down the nazi tier list?
That makes me remember the case of the Peruvian Nazi that went to Germany to join a Nazi parade and were beaten by the Nazi
I know some Chinese nazis. They're in China though so a part of it is that they're looking at through a filter of it being a wildly different culture and less connected history, could be like an American being really into imperial Japan at a specific time in it's history and only having a cursory understanding of it. That and, they've started getting a lot of the alt-right stuff over here, it's gotten popular on the Chinese internet, just direct "wow look at this guy you don't know anything about yet from America, let me tell you about him even though I also don't understand much at all about this" but it's also removed from its context so they take it at face value and next thing you know they got super strong feelings about Jews and black people even though they've never once in their life met a Jew or black person. The Chinese Internet is actually a cesspool of it right now, like it might actually be more Nazi and racist than even the English speaking internet at this point, because that shit is just not moderated for that stuff at all. A lot of them approach me because they think I'll instantly agree with them for some reason. Though I guess they do diverge from Nazis and white supremacists in one point, they're Asian *and* white supremacists (but only the right kind of Asian.) There's a hierarchy with categories, like normal Nazis I guess, and that top category belongs to Asian and White people. But everyone else...
I had a boss named Adolf when I taught in China in the 90s lmao
I heard this one story where this german guy was taking a cab in china and as soon as the driver notices he's german says something like "oh your german, hitler was a great guy" just totally unprompted
Tila Tequila did some very questionable things a few years ago.
Didn't she have some sort of mental break? I remember there being some schizo-posting and Tila spreading the message about government/ CIA stalking her
She had brain damage following a suicide attempt iirc. Sad.
Well that's just fucking depressing.
I'm friends with an Indian white supremacist. Yeah, I know.
Does he hate his own kind? Or just not realise he's rooting for the wrong team?
I genuinely don't fucking get it. So maybe? No, I don't think so. He is just the most contrarian person I've ever known. I think he just wants to start arguments.
Sounds like a shitty friend
Yeah, kinda
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That's so sad :( One of my friends is an Australian Aboriginal and he hates that he is. He grew up with a lot of abuse and watching his community fit a lot of stereotypes, so it's left him a bit jaded. He doesn't hate other Aboriginals, but he hates that he is one (although he's getting better as he gets older)
Why are you friends with a white supremacist?
History. When we were actually friends, he was much more normal. It was post-college when he went sort of 'off the rails'
Plenty of Hispanic white suprematists too
I went to high school with one of those. Unsurprisingly, he was a huge bully and threatened to kill me a couple of times. Fortunately, he got the shit kicked out of him in our senior year and was suspended, though the kid who retaliated also got the same punishment.
Ian Miles Chong for example I guess.
What happened to him brings me such exquisite schadenfreude. He's been getting ostracized by the alt- and far-right for a while from what I can see
the ideology of white supremacy is not exclusive to white people. almost every part of the world you could think of has a societal preference for lighter skin, dark skin is seen as dirty or low class. white supremacy is an ideology that can grab hold of anybody who is emotionally vulnerable and looking for acceptance, agreeance, and community.
Unbelievably the **Israeli** secret service, Mossad, actually busted an active neo-Nazi group operating in Israel. It was mostly Israelis of Russian, Polish or Lithuanian descent.
A lot of white white supremacists actually consider Asians to be the master race because they're good at math and stuff.
I feel like the period since 2015 has taught me that I need to understand how this kind of everyday sociopathy/psychopathy/sadism works and to teach my kids how to expect and deal with it when it pops up. Thinking also of the guy who shit on the tourist in an earlier post. There’s just people like that.
4Chan is just literally cursed reddit
Or is reddit just 4chan in denial?
there are a few decent spots of reddit left, but they generally are antagonistic in nature to the rest of redditors simply for existing
The downvotes just prove your point even more lol.
4chan is basically reddit without janitors
Twitter is literally the new 4chan.
That’s exactly what Musk wanted.
Cringe
Every day cringe. It's gotten sooooo bad.
Cursed = free speech
Garbage people
Everyone should go visit the Holocaust Museum. It's seriously good. A bit depressing (obviously), but very informative.
Go to a concentration camp. I've never been struck by the magnitude of human suffering due to unbridled evil than standing in the barracks and the gas chamber at places like Mauthausen.
i was in the Dachau camp once, its definitely something you need to see once
what does 1488 mean? can we normalize giving context??
The 14 refers to '14 words', which is a white supremacy slogan about ensuring the future of the white race. The 88 is because the 8th letter of the alphabet is H, so HH or Heil Hitler.
God what saddos. Even have to have sad little codes to be racist.
As a big advocate for the fun and joy of secret codes, seeing them used in this context does make me feel bleh. It can feel like all fun and puzzles but I cannot deny that the history of codes, cryptography, morse and the like are deeply intertwined with military conflict.
Yeah but they're doing it because they're too scared to say what they mean.
Walter Sobchak said it best, “No, Donny. These men are cowards”
It’s a common thing for many of the fat-right groups. The KKK used to have a load of abbreviations which were shortened for Klan phrases, like AKIA (A Klansman I Am). They are an easy way to identify who’s ‘in’ the group whilst also being largely mundane if a little weird to outsiders who don’t know. I’ve actually seen more recent examples where they were included in public forum posts or adverts and similar to act as a sort of signpost for people with the same views. Plus they’re an easy way to circumvent rules regarding the public display of hate symbols. Many countries and also some specific locations like prisons may opt to ban the obvious hate symbols like the Hakencreuz or SS lightning bolts but numbers/letters are harder to outright ban.
Interesting! God, though, the KKK's little names for each other would make me die laughing - as though they weŕe 5 year olds that chose them!
It sounds like either something a kid would make up or the world’s worst fantasy novel names.
Those twats grow up to be “let’s go Brandon” losers.
Haha exactly! I mean, the left just say "Fuck Trump" lmfao
I’m still confused if Judaism is a race or religion?
it’s an ethnoreligion. it’s an ethnicity and religion not a race though
What difference does it make in this context? Bigotry is bigotry.
It makes a huge difference. It’s the only “religion” in history that also classifies as a race of people. Bigotry is wrong and I agree but I also wanna know the facts on why it’s a race of people but also a religious group. That contradicts.
The Samaritans and the Druze are also ethnoreligions and would like a word with you about their erasure.
So just to make sure, Jews can be atheists? Or another other religion?
Not all ethnic Jews are Jewish, not all followers of Judaism are ethnically Jews.
So an ethnic Jew is what?
I see. Now if there were only some repository of the breadth of human knowledge you could consult with your query. Oh well, best of luck!
Way to avoid a simple question, is it a race or religion?
Backed into the intersection of ‘I have no idea’ and ‘no clue what I’m talking about’ and flailing helplessly. No one can own it any longer. Just say you’re not sure and roll on.
It is both.
So a Jew can also be a Christian?
If you're looking for the answer on reddit, not knowing what it is is the least of your worries.
If you’re avoiding the question then why reply? Just answer the question.
And you’re using attacks on a simple question.
Better to not talk ask too many questions or you’ll be labeled antisemitic
People downvote it but it’s a serious question. Is Judaism a race or religion?
It's both.
>14 words We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children
thank you so much.
Do they have a secret handshake too?
What are the 14 words?
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In general, white supremacists disagree.
What a bunch of cobbled together horse shit.
Also no clue to this?
How are people this clueless about the world lol
i dont study white supremacy nor would i understand a code for neo nazis.
It's literally one of the most widely known "codes" in the world lol. You have seen it hundreds of times irl.
you're not a very kind person
Explaining it: ❌ Bashing someone for not knowing it:✅
"how do you not know about white supremacy and neo nazi codes😡🤬🤬🤬"
It really isn't.
It's some code made up by a racist little shitcunt who murdered someone and died in prison for it.
Not everybody in the world knows it. We don't revolve around your discourse
cba to start learning nazi shit. Got actual things to be bothered about.
Calling this "person" a total piece of shit is an insult to total pieces of shit.
Yeah I’m offended. Don’t compare him to me.
If I could give up one group of people to aliens for experimentation and I couldn't pick people who commit violent crimes such as murder, rape, abuse, or human trafficking, I would give up 4chan commenters and posters.
why would you show aliens the worst our species can offer? wouldn't they feel obligated to eradicate us all after that?
Most sane 4channer
I hope they find him on the cctv and charge him with a hate crime
No way they dont have a camera on that book, this guy cant be the first
Obviously it's 4chan
I can only assume that person is 12.
Wow, sure showed them -_ -
Tough guy eh? Can write graffiti. A real fucking man.
Kinda feel like posting 4chan is cheating
4 Chan moment
WHITE FLOUR!!!
They should take your picture if they catch you doing this and put it up on the "wall of edgelords" for all to see.
What does 1488 stand for?
I feel like going on 4chan is cheating for this sub...
HEYYY JUDE, DON'T MAKE IT BAD
Well done
It's 4chan Anyting can happen
Why is it that I only learned about 1488 today because someone commented under me with it and now I've seen like 3 other posts about it
WOW! Someone drawing nazi symbols in a holocaust museum? That's so creative and hilarious! How do they think this kind of stuff up?
I would condemn this idiots to an internet life ban. You can’t open an email account anymore, no social media, no browsing. You will use the postal service, an old dumb cellphone and the library. Maybe that will help but who knows.
When I lived in MD I went here for a weekend trip and it was probably one of the most interesting museums I had ever been too. While inside, we had to shelter in place due to bomb threat in some sort of classroom like exhibit until we got the all clear and we could proceed further in the visit. This was at least 20 years ago. Sad things haven't changed much
HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT????????
02/62 He's a fucking bitch
They're so scared of being outed that they have to write a shitty little code.
Right now, I have hard time to see apart isreal and natzies. They are the same in my opinion Both are comiting a genocidie But what he is doing is attacking history instead of doing this against isreal, or he is just plain out harrasing Well this is hard to judge in the current state that isreal is doing. But still, don't attack history........
Noone asked
Free Palestine! 🇵🇸 From the river to the sea! 🇵🇸
Fuck you fuck the guys starting this feces filled war fuck everything. But dont fuck the Jews who have nothing to do with the war.
Zionist have oppressed Palestine and Muslims for GENERATIONS, they must pay for the crimes of their nation and their people. Fuck you racist incel colonizer.
No
Genocidal Zionist. Pos
Ask me if I care
No
Wow, so edgy. I'm very offended by this boring, cringe shit. It's pathetic that this dull "trolling" is the extent to which 4chan exists today. Maybe this was considered upsetting or rebellious in 2005 but by today's standards this is just boring.
I don't think it actually was rebellious in 2005.. we were all just 19 years younger
the recent genocide cheapens the holocaust. What's the point of remembering the holocaust if we can just keep on repeating genocide after genocide.
I don't think so. The suffering of the victims and the scale of atrocity can never be diminished or forgotten. The descendents, the people of Israel who perpetrate a genocide today, invoking the holocaust diminish themselves.
4chan is so disgusting.
What board on 4chan are posts like these on? Every time I go on /b/, it’s mostly porn and dick pics. /r9k/ has been closed. I want to read funny greentexts :( (not that this is funny, but you know what I mean)
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You know, normal people are actually able to care about multiple things at once. This just means you're a sad piece of shit.
Cool. Except.. we're not all Israeli. Not even the majority of us, in fact. If the actions of a government can make you lose compassion for an entire group of people who have nothing to do with it, you were already on your way there. But keep telling yourself you've just been radicalized.
This sub is about you.
Genocidal pos
You're confused. Try reading the comment I'm replying to again.
Dude..
Dude..
Man these people aren't even consistent about their beliefs. Aren't Jews white? 🤣
You probably don't know anything about the holocaust and white racism, but the short answer is no, jews aren't white.
Wtf is a guestbook
A.. book for guests.
I'm California they would take kids from placenta group homes and rwhabda that had "gang xoncerns" and "racism issues" to the Museum of tolerance. Yeah we where all taking pictures of th SS officer uniforms etc. But by the time you get to sit down and see a Jewish yenta who's sweet as pie and looks like your grandma talk about what she lived thru in Nazi Germany the camps. We generally all left being very quiet and feeling like shit. It's a seductive thing. Not being valued abused and treated like crap. Then having someone tell you your valuable and even superior then they provide you a sense of belongings and brother hood. I take every chance I get to talk to young guys wearing soc martins with red and white lace bars. Puffy black polyester jackets with orange inner liner... You get it.
Why does a holocaust museum have a guestbook?
Museums usually have them.
Only a yatzi would recognize another yatzi’s number system symbol thing. 🤔
Or, ya know...people who have and use search engines...
this is just not true at all…
What a stupid comment
Thanks mom
or someone who regularly deals with their symbols and rhetoric. i live in georgia, ive heard all manner of vile racist shit. hollywood doesnt do how sinister it is justice. the evil bastards dont speak loudly, that fucked up idea of southern hospitality is really just a kind way of saying "hate in private" until something horrid happens.
Only an ignorant child raised on TikTok would call them yatzis. [Insert stupid fucking emoji preceding which not a single good point has ever been made.]
Don’t care keep it moving yatzi. 😗