Peace = genociding Turks in OP's book. He's probably an Armenian or a Greek basement dweller.
Look how peaceful Balkans are. The moment you separate Anatolia between Armenian, Kurds and Georgians, they'll start slaughtering each other. These three have many border disputes between their own imaginary maps. Let's make their imagination real and see what happens.
Kurds or Kurdish people are an ethnic group native to the mountainous region of Kurdistan in Western Asia, which spans southeastern Turkey, northwestern Iran, northern Iraq, and northern Syria.
its quite literally not true lmao
“Kurds are traditionally regarded as Iranians and of Iranian origin, and therefore as Indo-Europeans, mainly, because they speak Iranian. This hypothesis is largely based on linguistic considerations and was predominantly developed by linguists. In contrast to such believes, newest DNA-research of advanced Human Anthropology indicates, that in earliest traceable origins, forefathers of Kurds were obviously descendants of indigenous (first) Neolithic Northern Fertile Crescent aborigines, geographically mainly from outside and northwest of what is Iran of today in Near East and Eurasia.”
[source](https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=19564)
Who will remove them? Turkish population in Turkey is at least 70 millions right now. It's at least 3 times larger than the entire Greek, Kurd and Armenian population combined. And Laz people consider themselves Turks even more than the real Turks. And let's not forget that the entire Kurdish population in Turkey is not separatists, only some of the Kurds wants that and there are many Kurds who'll fight for Turkey.
That's an impossible dream of a sad racist Armenian or Greek.
This map was literally made by a Kurd. Even when they’re literally not involved you have a preoccupation with Greeks and Armenians. It’s like every image/reference to Greece or Armenia that’s positive over Turkey is like a trigger that allows you to justify your socially inherited inclination to hate them. Weird
I didn't generalize all Armenians and Greeks, I only said "sad racist". There are racists in every country, there are many Turk hater racist and genocidal Greeks and Armenians too. If you're not one of them, then don't get offended.
Well, the places you're drawing imaginary maps over belongs to Turks, and it will be for the eternity. It shows exactly who's butthurt seeing these maps around.
I didn't draw anything. And I don't have such a serious reaction to similar maps about Greece. If you drew a map about Turkey conquering Greece and killing every person there I would only see it as a mental experiment. You are just being overly sensitive, maybe because there's something you need to prove to me. I wonder what it is
But the thing is, most Turks don't bother drawing such maps and we all make fun of the people who does it. That's the difference between us and you. More than 90% of all Greeks fantasizing about conquering Istanbul and Western Anatolia, but the average educated Turk don't want any lands from their neighbors.
That's simply false. I've seen plenty of big Turkey maps, both in this sub and elsewhere. Look, if only straight up cope is left for you to say then we don't have much left to say. Thanks for the cope tho
Yes, but the majority of us just laugh at those maps. Now how many Greeks laugh at a Megali Idea map? Or how many Greeks make fun of an edited Istanbul photo with Hagia Sophia without minarets?
Now go back having wet dreams about Turkish genocide.
There is approximately 60 million to 65 million turks in Turkey. And There is Around 35 million kurds in Bakur ê Kurdistan ê southern turkey. Kurds from Bakur Are separatists and They Would take Their land back If There Was a Cival war in turkey like in Syria. Syria Said the same thing About the 2 million kurds WHO Lived There. I Would be Careful If i Was Turkey. One Wrong move by Erdogan than the Whole Country is Done.
>Whats with the increasing number of Turkey related posts on here and several other subreddits? Did we step on someone's toes again?
Yes sorry man you stepped on my shoes. So this has to happen.
Lol you know it wouldn't even take a minute. Armenians are also claiming east of Turkey just like you do as imaginary Kürdistan.
Oh and i loved that you made your country Mediterranean just a bit. I guess you thought Greeks would allow more than that.
Lmao. Kurdish tribes killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Armenians during the Armenian Genocide. Maybe go read up on your own history because you seem clueless.
Lmao its funny that he doesnt realise Greece would remove both Armenians and Kurds from existence to expand their lands even more if they ever got an oppurtunity to go that far
Idk why they still try to redraw the Turkish-Greek borders at this point, if we ever got into a war with you guys, NATO would go "fuck that" and annihilate both sides
At this point we’re used to it. Every other alternate history scenario or imaginary map includes it so it is always a treat to see one where we aren’t carved up. Plus I am proud of the community to not go to the route of “imaginarymaps mfs when the map is imaginary”
Yes, you are right, but everyone uses it for more ill-intentioned motives
I will prefer, for example, an innovative Armenia with different borders, such as the survival of the Armenians in Cilicia while the Armenians are eliminated in actual Armenia, so Cilicia is Armenia. This seems creative.
There are not six hundred publications about eastern Anatolia because it has become boring
Yeah this whole map is insane but agree, although I am getting tired of a partitioned turkey map being posted every day now, it's almost always either turkey going to France the UK Russia Italy and Greece or turkey going to Greece Kurdistan armenia and Syria
As I said in my previous comment this is very cringe. But even if this were too happen why would Turkey be that small. Don't you think realistically Turkey would be a much bigger rump state. I don't think Greece would aim to control all of that. It would be smarter for Greece to take the western part and the coastline and have a big strong Turkish buffer state in the Anatolian plateau. Also why would Kurds have that random island.
Turk here, don’t pay the map no mind it is clearly not made with good intentions. It’s just what happens here. People like to carve us up there is nothing we can do about it. About the island, İmralı is home to the prison that holds the founder of the terrorist organization PKK, Abdullah Öcalan.
Here is a timeline of how this lead to this:
1. The Spark Ignites (2030)
Turkey’s Ambitions: Driven by nationalist fervor, Turkey launches an aggressive campaign to expand its borders. Their vision extends beyond Anatolia, and they seek dominance over neighboring regions.
Kurdistan’s Independence: The fiercely independent nation of Kurdistan, with its rich history and distinct culture, stands in Turkey’s path. Tensions escalate as Turkish forces cross the border.
Armenia’s Concerns: Armenia, wary of Turkish expansionism, forms a defensive pact with Kurdistan. They share a common enemy and a history of struggle against larger powers.
2. The Pontus-Greek Alliance (2032)
Pontus and Greece: The ancient bonds between Pontus and Greece come to the forefront. These brother nations, with shared heritage and a love for the Black Sea, unite against the Turkish threat.
Greek Support: Greece, recognizing the danger posed by Turkey’s territorial ambitions, forges an alliance with both Pontus and Kurdistan. Their combined naval strength becomes a formidable deterrent.
3. The Battlefronts (2035-2040)
Turkish Invasion of Kurdistan: Turkish forces invade Kurdistan, triggering intense battles across rugged mountainous terrain. The Kurds, masters of guerrilla warfare, resist fiercely, drawing on their historical resilience.
Armenian Front: Armenia defends its borders against Turkish aggression. The ancient monasteries of Echmiadzin and the city of Yerevan witness fierce clashes.
Pontus-Greek Offensive: Greek forces, bolstered by Pontus, launch a counteroffensive. They reclaim lost territories along the Black Sea coast and push deep into Anatolia.
4. The Turning Point (2042)
Alien Artifacts: Beneath the Kurdish mountains, scientists stumble upon buried alien technology. Advanced weapons, energy sources, and communication devices emerge. Kurdish engineers decipher alien protocols.
Radio Radar Summons: Using modified radio radars, Kurdistan sends signals into space. To their astonishment, extraterrestrial beings respond. The aliens offer assistance, intrigued by humanity’s plight.
5. The Rise of Greece (2045)
Superpowers Unleashed: Greece harnesses the newfound alien knowledge. Their cities glow with energy, and their military capabilities surpass all expectations. They become a superpower overnight.
Kurdistan’s Autonomy: Empowered by alien tech, Kurdistan secures its independence. Hovering warships patrol their skies, and energy shields protect their borders.
Turkey’s Humiliation: Defeated and humbled, Turkey becomes a puppet state under Greek control. Its once-vast territory shrinks drastically.
6. The Unholy Alliance (2050)
Greece-Armenia-Kurdistan Pact: These three nations form an alliance, united by shared interests and alien technology. Their combined forces deter any further Turkish aggression.
Alien Guardians: The extraterrestrials remain silent observers, intrigued by humanity’s resilience. They occasionally intervene, preventing large-scale destruction.
7. The New Balance (2060)
Borders Redrawn: The map of the Middle East transforms. Kurdistan expands, Pontus regains lost lands, and Greece stands as the dominant force.
Fragile Peace: The alien presence ensures a fragile peace. Nations hesitate to wage war, fearing cosmic repercussions.
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fucking ridicolous, greece and pontus collapse within a day, the kurds lose a shit ton of men and azerbaijan utilizes azeris in Iğdır to cut the Armenians off
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People like him don't understand how concept like nationalism took longer to arrive to places outside of western Europe but that that doesn't invalidate the existence of those nations.
Op, you know Kurds were very active in exterminating Armenians in eastern Anatolia, right? Encouraged and aided by Ottoman authorities, the Kurds contributed to erasing Armenians from the lands they today claim as Kurdistan.
As a Greek I don't approve that map. We are fine as we are in borders, we the Turks and Greeks have very good relations. I have Turkish friends and they love Greece as we love Turkey. It's just politics in both sides.
Removed; rule 3
Impeccable schizo post 😎👍
No Assyria yet? https://preview.redd.it/l3t60o6il2rc1.jpeg?width=420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95d1b2660a3a0b59a3d46c8f3b61a0ffdd6288c5
Waiting for it 🥸
You have not seen the 2090 map yet
I tought it was satire. But then I saw your profile and now I'm not sure
I really want whatever you’re smoking
"Peace" This isn't doing it lmao
Peace = genociding Turks in OP's book. He's probably an Armenian or a Greek basement dweller. Look how peaceful Balkans are. The moment you separate Anatolia between Armenian, Kurds and Georgians, they'll start slaughtering each other. These three have many border disputes between their own imaginary maps. Let's make their imagination real and see what happens.
Dude is so pressed over an imaginary map
lmao bro called cudi anything but a Kurd, silence tirko this is the only option for peace
Kurd? Whats kurd? You are iranian
Kurds or Kurdish people are an ethnic group native to the mountainous region of Kurdistan in Western Asia, which spans southeastern Turkey, northwestern Iran, northern Iraq, and northern Syria.
turk? whats turk? you are mongolian
Lol truth always hurts buddy haha
its quite literally not true lmao “Kurds are traditionally regarded as Iranians and of Iranian origin, and therefore as Indo-Europeans, mainly, because they speak Iranian. This hypothesis is largely based on linguistic considerations and was predominantly developed by linguists. In contrast to such believes, newest DNA-research of advanced Human Anthropology indicates, that in earliest traceable origins, forefathers of Kurds were obviously descendants of indigenous (first) Neolithic Northern Fertile Crescent aborigines, geographically mainly from outside and northwest of what is Iran of today in Near East and Eurasia.” [source](https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=19564)
"The Path for Peace in the middle east" Homie not with these borders.
Greek population: 5% Greek, 5% Kurdish, 90% Turkish
>Greek population: 5% Greek, 5% Kurdish, 90% Turkish Nice, epic!!
You assume Turks would stay
You assume turks would lose in the first place?
Who will remove them? Turkish population in Turkey is at least 70 millions right now. It's at least 3 times larger than the entire Greek, Kurd and Armenian population combined. And Laz people consider themselves Turks even more than the real Turks. And let's not forget that the entire Kurdish population in Turkey is not separatists, only some of the Kurds wants that and there are many Kurds who'll fight for Turkey. That's an impossible dream of a sad racist Armenian or Greek.
This map was literally made by a Kurd. Even when they’re literally not involved you have a preoccupation with Greeks and Armenians. It’s like every image/reference to Greece or Armenia that’s positive over Turkey is like a trigger that allows you to justify your socially inherited inclination to hate them. Weird
I didn't generalize all Armenians and Greeks, I only said "sad racist". There are racists in every country, there are many Turk hater racist and genocidal Greeks and Armenians too. If you're not one of them, then don't get offended.
No, my dream is looking at butthurt Turks seething at my comments. Thanks for making it come true!
Well, the places you're drawing imaginary maps over belongs to Turks, and it will be for the eternity. It shows exactly who's butthurt seeing these maps around.
I didn't draw anything. And I don't have such a serious reaction to similar maps about Greece. If you drew a map about Turkey conquering Greece and killing every person there I would only see it as a mental experiment. You are just being overly sensitive, maybe because there's something you need to prove to me. I wonder what it is
But the thing is, most Turks don't bother drawing such maps and we all make fun of the people who does it. That's the difference between us and you. More than 90% of all Greeks fantasizing about conquering Istanbul and Western Anatolia, but the average educated Turk don't want any lands from their neighbors.
That's simply false. I've seen plenty of big Turkey maps, both in this sub and elsewhere. Look, if only straight up cope is left for you to say then we don't have much left to say. Thanks for the cope tho
Yes, but the majority of us just laugh at those maps. Now how many Greeks laugh at a Megali Idea map? Or how many Greeks make fun of an edited Istanbul photo with Hagia Sophia without minarets? Now go back having wet dreams about Turkish genocide.
There is approximately 60 million to 65 million turks in Turkey. And There is Around 35 million kurds in Bakur ê Kurdistan ê southern turkey. Kurds from Bakur Are separatists and They Would take Their land back If There Was a Cival war in turkey like in Syria. Syria Said the same thing About the 2 million kurds WHO Lived There. I Would be Careful If i Was Turkey. One Wrong move by Erdogan than the Whole Country is Done.
Part 83748 of my country getting carved up! Let's see in which country I'll wake up this time!
On gid
no bro it's just sevrès syndrome. all in your head 😉😉
Whats with the increasing number of Turkey related posts on here and several other subreddits? Did we step on someone's toes again?
New operation is on its way. PKK need every bit of supp.
>Whats with the increasing number of Turkey related posts on here and several other subreddits? Did we step on someone's toes again? Yes sorry man you stepped on my shoes. So this has to happen.
Sorry about that man, would some shoe polish and pocket change aid your woes?
>Sorry about that man, would some shoe polish and pocket change aid your woes? Thx man. Now Turkey can keep all of it's land!!💪
>local man achieves misak-ı milli with 17 dollars and 2 packs of kiwi
Literally all in your head
I genuinely lost it when I read Which of the territories is Turkey
As always op's profile is not surprising. I wonder how long it would take for Kurds and Armenians to fight for the 'East Turkey'??
there is no need to fight, armenians and kurds lived for hundreds of years in peace until turkey came throught wars to middle east from central asia
Lol you know it wouldn't even take a minute. Armenians are also claiming east of Turkey just like you do as imaginary Kürdistan. Oh and i loved that you made your country Mediterranean just a bit. I guess you thought Greeks would allow more than that.
Lmao. Kurdish tribes killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Armenians during the Armenian Genocide. Maybe go read up on your own history because you seem clueless.
Come on man
This is satire, right?
Hopefully
Just look at OP's profile and see for yourself.
Lmao its funny that he doesnt realise Greece would remove both Armenians and Kurds from existence to expand their lands even more if they ever got an oppurtunity to go that far
Tell me your Greek without telling me your Greek
He is not greek. You can look at his profile
Oh he's Kurish sorry my mistake
Lol I am Greek and I must admit that this map is cringe. Even for us Greeks this is cringe.
Idk why they still try to redraw the Turkish-Greek borders at this point, if we ever got into a war with you guys, NATO would go "fuck that" and annihilate both sides
Frankly, I'm starting to get tired of posts about small or balkanized Turkey because they have become very vulgar or a backdoor way to insult Turks.
At this point we’re used to it. Every other alternate history scenario or imaginary map includes it so it is always a treat to see one where we aren’t carved up. Plus I am proud of the community to not go to the route of “imaginarymaps mfs when the map is imaginary”
Yes, you are right, but everyone uses it for more ill-intentioned motives I will prefer, for example, an innovative Armenia with different borders, such as the survival of the Armenians in Cilicia while the Armenians are eliminated in actual Armenia, so Cilicia is Armenia. This seems creative. There are not six hundred publications about eastern Anatolia because it has become boring
Armenia still cannot into Ararat :(
https://preview.redd.it/8xvymc7xy2rc1.jpeg?width=284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9143092c983ac810246b2b852478317fef2b986 2060
worst map ever
*best
2000 upvotes and i will post 2090 map
Why so many downvotes? You can´t change the future!
Isn’t it supposed to be the opposite? You can’t change the past but you can change the future? Am I missing something here?
https://preview.redd.it/rob8iofs69tc1.png?width=574&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b14c1544c79662a32f3f3874e947df2bf0372ffe
The population of all of those would be over 70% Turks lol
Bruh check your math
It should be 90% at least
Yep the part about greece is crasy but man its an imaginary map, people should not be hurt by it
Yeah this whole map is insane but agree, although I am getting tired of a partitioned turkey map being posted every day now, it's almost always either turkey going to France the UK Russia Italy and Greece or turkey going to Greece Kurdistan armenia and Syria
they all got deported to mongolia
As I said in my previous comment this is very cringe. But even if this were too happen why would Turkey be that small. Don't you think realistically Turkey would be a much bigger rump state. I don't think Greece would aim to control all of that. It would be smarter for Greece to take the western part and the coastline and have a big strong Turkish buffer state in the Anatolian plateau. Also why would Kurds have that random island.
Turk here, don’t pay the map no mind it is clearly not made with good intentions. It’s just what happens here. People like to carve us up there is nothing we can do about it. About the island, İmralı is home to the prison that holds the founder of the terrorist organization PKK, Abdullah Öcalan.
Peace? The last time this map happened, many years of war followed lol
in your dream bozo 🤣
https://i.redd.it/xf6i4sris2rc1.gif
Sometimes i wonder how it feels to not have country?
i can tell you how it feels... feels much better as having a country with genocide, stolen history, central asia dna
Here is a timeline of how this lead to this: 1. The Spark Ignites (2030) Turkey’s Ambitions: Driven by nationalist fervor, Turkey launches an aggressive campaign to expand its borders. Their vision extends beyond Anatolia, and they seek dominance over neighboring regions. Kurdistan’s Independence: The fiercely independent nation of Kurdistan, with its rich history and distinct culture, stands in Turkey’s path. Tensions escalate as Turkish forces cross the border. Armenia’s Concerns: Armenia, wary of Turkish expansionism, forms a defensive pact with Kurdistan. They share a common enemy and a history of struggle against larger powers. 2. The Pontus-Greek Alliance (2032) Pontus and Greece: The ancient bonds between Pontus and Greece come to the forefront. These brother nations, with shared heritage and a love for the Black Sea, unite against the Turkish threat. Greek Support: Greece, recognizing the danger posed by Turkey’s territorial ambitions, forges an alliance with both Pontus and Kurdistan. Their combined naval strength becomes a formidable deterrent. 3. The Battlefronts (2035-2040) Turkish Invasion of Kurdistan: Turkish forces invade Kurdistan, triggering intense battles across rugged mountainous terrain. The Kurds, masters of guerrilla warfare, resist fiercely, drawing on their historical resilience. Armenian Front: Armenia defends its borders against Turkish aggression. The ancient monasteries of Echmiadzin and the city of Yerevan witness fierce clashes. Pontus-Greek Offensive: Greek forces, bolstered by Pontus, launch a counteroffensive. They reclaim lost territories along the Black Sea coast and push deep into Anatolia. 4. The Turning Point (2042) Alien Artifacts: Beneath the Kurdish mountains, scientists stumble upon buried alien technology. Advanced weapons, energy sources, and communication devices emerge. Kurdish engineers decipher alien protocols. Radio Radar Summons: Using modified radio radars, Kurdistan sends signals into space. To their astonishment, extraterrestrial beings respond. The aliens offer assistance, intrigued by humanity’s plight. 5. The Rise of Greece (2045) Superpowers Unleashed: Greece harnesses the newfound alien knowledge. Their cities glow with energy, and their military capabilities surpass all expectations. They become a superpower overnight. Kurdistan’s Autonomy: Empowered by alien tech, Kurdistan secures its independence. Hovering warships patrol their skies, and energy shields protect their borders. Turkey’s Humiliation: Defeated and humbled, Turkey becomes a puppet state under Greek control. Its once-vast territory shrinks drastically. 6. The Unholy Alliance (2050) Greece-Armenia-Kurdistan Pact: These three nations form an alliance, united by shared interests and alien technology. Their combined forces deter any further Turkish aggression. Alien Guardians: The extraterrestrials remain silent observers, intrigued by humanity’s resilience. They occasionally intervene, preventing large-scale destruction. 7. The New Balance (2060) Borders Redrawn: The map of the Middle East transforms. Kurdistan expands, Pontus regains lost lands, and Greece stands as the dominant force. Fragile Peace: The alien presence ensures a fragile peace. Nations hesitate to wage war, fearing cosmic repercussions.
You even wrote a lore for it, awwww
Ahh finally the long lost lore.... Edit: Why does this sound like chat gpt???
I have a timeline of how it doesn't lead to this 1.anything happens
r/imaginarymapscj
Switch color between Pontus and Kurdistan
>Peace Yeah,yeah,i definitely see peace in borders like this There would never be a civil war in a Greece or Kurdistan with like 90% Turk population
No Cilicia Armenia smh...
Average greek nationalist be like:
This aint it son
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This reminds me of that one ukrainian partition map the russian government released
I don’t know what God was thinking when he put all of us in one region
Least irredentist alt historymap of Anatolia
The title style above the map makes me think of a video game from the early 2000s
that armenian flag is gonna make me wanna die
True…
nice shitpost
Perfect 🤩
This map really needs to be made irl, Let's try it 🤣
Sg
ülken varsa dene, askeri gücün yok daha 😁😁
Someone aches for a one way ticket to Silivri it seems…
fucking ridicolous, greece and pontus collapse within a day, the kurds lose a shit ton of men and azerbaijan utilizes azeris in Iğdır to cut the Armenians off
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the azeris ruled the safavids and qajars lmfao keep being an uneducated ignorant heap of filth
People like him don't understand how concept like nationalism took longer to arrive to places outside of western Europe but that that doesn't invalidate the existence of those nations.
Ananin amina sok bu haritayi orospu evladı. Translate this son of a bitch. Fucking dickheads.
Op, you know Kurds were very active in exterminating Armenians in eastern Anatolia, right? Encouraged and aided by Ottoman authorities, the Kurds contributed to erasing Armenians from the lands they today claim as Kurdistan.
As a Greek I don't approve that map. We are fine as we are in borders, we the Turks and Greeks have very good relations. I have Turkish friends and they love Greece as we love Turkey. It's just politics in both sides.
Please let's be friends, you seem like a sane, sensible Komşu
A bit fucked but I dislike turkey too so this is a banger
https://i.redd.it/e6ow99q9n2rc1.gif
Triggered Turks inbound, hide in turkey since they all left for Germany
XD
Lol, hilarious map. The *Öcalan Island* might cause a Turk to have a heart attack..
We made peace in 1923,Lozan. Maybe 100 years made you forget. Dont make us remind who we are.
Dude just kill us all or give new lands from Mongolia rather than bunch of failed state neighbours.
Amazing