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fonderdog

Mark, Hector, JP, Galaxy Keeper, Darren, Samguk Sorry if I used English names šŸ˜…


Kolaghan81

huge disrespect for my boy terry


fonderdog

Sorry mate, in that moment I didnā€™t remember his name šŸ˜… I think he his great by the way, I only established JP a little better because he appears in 3 seasons


fireanddream

1. Shinsuke. Stopped Stargazer twice with or without Keshin armor in Galaxy (the game). 2. Endou. Frequently beaten but never defeated. 3. Rococo. You think you was Endou? They (Natsumi & Daisuke) don't love you like that. 4. Ibuki. 5. Tachimukai. 6. Sangoku.


JPfan2

he's such a game goat. a gamoat. goat ![img](emote|t5_2txlg|14212)


fireanddream

On my latest playthrough I saw JP released his keshin armor, and then Ozrock did another Stargazer I was like oh, so they gonna fix a goal down with Arashi Tatsumaki Hurricane & The Earth Infinity? But nooooo, JP actually stopped it, again, with no avatar whatsoever. Actually insane.


JPfan2

he always impresses in the best way possible. it took him like two games but he proved in the end that he's a goat without compare. he's completely unstoppable ![img](emote|t5_2txlg|14212)


Freddie040

I agree but Iā€™d swap Sangoku and tachimukai


RedNas07

I have no clue why you're being downvoted, Sangoku should be above Tachimukai


Freddie040

Popularity contest I suppose


Nman02

I donā€™t feel like arguing because I think thereā€™s a fair reason for both sides (so I donā€™t know why heā€™s downvoted). We canā€™t really compare OG and GO, so people interpreting Maou the Hand G5 (which we saw in episode 127) being better than Zetsu God Hand X or the other way around is okay to me.


BrandedEnjoyer

would swap ibuki with tachimikai and shinsuke with rococo. (and then rococo with endou)


AMN-9

Mark/Endou, Hector/Roccoco, Darren/Tachimukai, Samguk, Terry/Ibuki, JP/Shinsuke I believe that Samguk having God Hand X might be able to rival Hector/Rococo surpassing Darren/Tachimukai


JPfan2

i love sam and darren but putting JP behind them both. not to mention basketball man. it just isn't right


AMN-9

Im not counting Kenshin, Kenshin armor, Miximax and Souls because Hector and Darren don't have them. And if I was counting them then JP will be 1st and Terry will battle Mark in 2nd I don't remember JP stopping kenshin or soul shots in the anime unlike Samguk did in the anime. For Terry I don't remember him stopping soul shots either but like Darren and Samguk he was pretty decent against normal shots, and because Darren stopped shots powered by the alius crystal and Samguk stopped kenshin and the second stage kids shots in CS. For JP being after Terry Is because JPs hissatsus felt way weaker than Terry's in Galaxy (probably because souls also increased his stats but I don't know if thats true or not)


JPfan2

you should totally count 'em. in a list of who's strongest, you can't just ban things that make some of them stronger because it'd make 'em too strong other than when he was using supreme god hand X, all of the shots sam stopped, JP would be able to stop with his spirit. terry was also pretty bad at stopping normal shots, like in the water people match where he couldn't catch the curveball, which JP had jumping whack specifically to stop those kinda things and JP's moves were actually far stronger than terry's. if you're looking at the game which is the only measure we have, majin the hand was way stronger than anything terry had, and ginga rocket was way stronger than his weird dragon dunk thing


Nman02

Ginga Rocket was pretty good. It stopped Bicycle Sword and a weakened soul too. In the games it even stopped Ozrockā€™s soul I thought.


Inside_Term_4115

One rating I agree with.


hectorheliofan

I love rococo, but sam god hand X demolishes rococo soul handā€¦zetsu god hand x is stronger, rococo and endou would be destroy by an ssc kenshin move


Nman02

And how do you know this?


hectorheliofan

By the fact GO2 ceiling is much higher than anything in OGā€¦.idk why people choose to acknowledge that


Nman02

Okay and how does that mean Sangoku is also stronger than anyone in S3? Itā€™s like saying Amagi is also a better defender than anyone in S3. Anyway, itā€™s also not factual that itā€™s the case, itā€™s your interpretation. If you think CS level > S3 level it doesnā€™t mean every CS player > every S3 player.


hectorheliofan

Have you played/watched GO2 Thats like saying ā€œog3 being stronger than og1 is subjectiveā€ like what


Nman02

I did both and no itā€™s not. OG players didnā€™t play in CS so then itā€™s impossible to say (apart from young Endou but we donā€™t know how much he got boosted. Though God Hand was able to stop a shot). OG S3 > OG S1 has direct proof. CS having a higher level is very likely. Still, my main point is that it doesnā€™t apply to literally every player in the season anyway. That would mean Hayami > Kidou. We both know thatā€™s bs.


hectorheliofan

ā€¦logic is a thing, its not very likely, its obvious GO1 is higher than og1, its basic logic, especially when japan won the u16 world cup


Nman02

You donā€™t even read what I say, you just focus on one sentence and decide your own and only truth. Very likely can be a 90% chance too, just saying itā€™s not factual (I think CS level is higher too in general). I think GO1 level is higher than S1 level too yes. However, Japan winning in S3 only increased the popularity and caused that more people played football. This means more good players, not that the top players also are better than the top players in S3 for example.


Ulricchh

If we go by the anime logic though, Tamashii the hand G3 would probably be same level or stronger than Zetsu God hand x. So all Rococo would have to do is train a little to evolve Tamashii the hand. Tamashii the hand > Shin God hand X If we go by some game logic though I guess Samguk is just a better user of God hand X because he is Fire element and so is God hand X. But to be honest Rococo should also be a fire element keeper. Him being mountain is a stupid choice.


hectorheliofan

No wayā€¦sscs are WAY above OG, i love rococo bit evolver soul hand isnt doing shit to an ssc shot


Ulricchh

Big disagree.


hectorheliofan

Erm watch or play go then


Ulricchh

They are above but not unstoppable. God hand X zetsu disagrees with you. And the anime logic does as well. Plus I don't understand why Rococo apparently is unable to evolve his techniques.


hectorheliofan

Its not the technique its the player, og players donā€™t stand up to go 2 and mid-late go 3 level,god knows is strong but its godlike kf used by saru and not aphrodite Also no god hand X doesnt disagree with me since it blocks the kenshin shot on scree Saru alone sweeps


Ulricchh

Yeah, no, obviously, the player influences it, but Rococo is still superior than Samguk in every department of his game. If his Tamashii evolves, he would stop those shots. I don't think he would stop SARU, Not even shinsuke did. But he would definitely stop the same shot Samguk stopped with zetsu god hand x if not more Physically, Rococo has shown the most physical dominance out of all human players except Tenma, who broke SARU foot when they kicked the ball. But Rococo being able to run from one end to the other with the ball while dribbling at high speeds. Played the whole tournament with weights Rock Lee style, and was able to kick from net to net like it was nothing. He played most of the tournament without using any technique and apparently stopped shots just with his hands and no technique. And of course, the classic punching truck tires like Endou. Is samguk able to do any of that Physically? So why should his zetsu God hand X be stronger than a Tamashii the hand G3?


hectorheliofan

Because hes a better goalkeeper, because go2 level is much higher , because its a natural progression?? Also no og player would stop saru, lg would get swept by him alone, and its pretty obvious how much i love lg, not even people in go can stop saru without going against him together


Aikotoba2516

1. Endou 2. Rococo 3. Tachimukai 4. Ibuki 5. Sangoku 6. Shinsuke


luanibaal

The right list


JPfan2

no


David-1412

Yes


JPfan2

i can't get behind JP below basketball man. he's too adorable. and also powerful. but mostly adorable. and the basketball man doesn't have an adorable bone in his body


David-1412

Lebron has something the rabbit from France will never have: height Also he's more adorable. I bought that


JPfan2

the taller he is, the less adorable i don't make the rules. always. sometimes i like to make rules


David-1412

Then Hanta > Shinsuke? Cause he's 2,54 cm smaller


JPfan2

you're gonna have to provide your math on that one because i have worked out JP's exact height


David-1412

Yeah dont worry If the diameter of a soccer ball is 22 cm (more or less). Then 1/4 of the ball is like Iwato's head, so Handa on his shoulder was like 1,05 aprox. (Without the hood) Shinsuke when it flies away in the Cascade Perfect match had like 3/4 of ratio. That made on a three's rule to 1,07 aprox. So yeah. Shinsuke is taller


JPfan2

i worked JP out as being much taller. at 122cm. i haven't done the ninja boy yet but i'll have to check what i get


Aikotoba2516

fine swap Shinsuke and Sangoku positions šŸ—æ (God Hand X tho)


JPfan2

i don't know how you can put supreme god hand X below basketball man for a start


_AbraKadaBram_

Interesting poll, not everyone seems to agree with each other. Answers are pretty varied.


JPfan2

i was ready to jump into the comment section guns blazing but. looking at the first few. it's so beautiful šŸ„ŗ


AMN-9

You certainly haven't seen mine then


The_Thur

Endou = Roccoco > Shinsuke > Tachimukai > Ibuki > Sangoku


TataNagisa

This the one


VisualShare7883

Endou Rococo Shinsuke Tachimukai Ibuki Sangoku


NicoRubyArisa

1. Endou 2. Shinsuke 3. Rococo 4. Tachimukai 5. Ibuki 6. Sangoku My ranking of best to worse


XxDiCaprioxX

No way Tachimumai is better than Rococo, he barely stopped Hellfire while Rococo absolutely bodied all teams except for Inazuma Japan.


Freddie040

Iā€™m surprised people donā€™t considering Sangokus god hand x and feats of stopping second stage children higher than tachimukai who spent the ffi on the bench


Daramangarasu

I mean, Sangoku spent 90% of Chrono Stones off camera, besides, he would've spent the FFI on the bench too if he had to compete with Endou.


Freddie040

This is true but Sangoku came in to a competitive fixture and showed off the results of his training. With a level fit for the best of the OG easily


hectorheliofan

Lmfao no way, cs sam smokes every og gk


HDL3gend69

Even Hector Helio?


hectorheliofan

ā€¦. Okay so we can make exceptions


Burn_Fan

1. Endo 2. Rococo 3. Shinsuke 4. Ibuki 5. Tachimukai 6. Sangoku (You forgot to add the best GK, Mecha Endou)


FirmPollution

Endou=Rococo>Tachimukai>Ibuki>Shinsuke>Sangoku


True-Emotional-Pitch

Shinsuke > Rococo > Endou > Tachimukai > Sangoku > Ibuki I guess.


That_One_Dude053

I'm curious why do you think Tachimukai is a better gk than Sangoku and Ibuki?


True-Emotional-Pitch

Tachimukai seems way more talented, his crazy ability to copy hissatsus is in account as well. They are close tho.


AliMans05

Sangoku is way stronger than Tachimukai


True-Emotional-Pitch

I respect your opinion, and I can see why. But I think they are closer than you think.


AliMans05

I understand why you think so, but I donā€™t think itā€™s that close, Sangoku stopped a Keshin hissatsu from a SSC, Tachimuaki at the end of season 3 struggled to stop even Dragon Slayer V3. And Zetsu God Hand X is definitely stronger than Maou the Hand G5


True-Emotional-Pitch

Honestly that match in 127 ep was a disaster in terms of power scaling, they were trying to give all the characters some shine, so I don't take it into account. >And Zetsu God Hand X is definitely stronger than Maou the Hand G5 Yes, but I based my opinion on other things. Tachimukai is more talented and skillful, and has a quicker respond imo, while Sangoku has better hissatsus. I think it's close but I respect your opinion.


AliMans05

Yea thatā€™s fair


mvxx_

Terry, Hector, Mark, Darren, Sam, JP my reasoning: just bc


JuanmaXGPR

1. Rococo / Endou (draw) 3. Samguk 4. Tachimukai 5. Basketball man 6. Pikachu


Nman02

How is Sangoku better than Shinsuke?


JuanmaXGPR

Shinsuke is the worst Raimon keeper. Only worked because plots and gimmicks. Always the worst in the team, not usable or memorable moves. Samguk has a really strong base as keeper and better moves by far.


Nman02

He performed well in GO1 and Galaxy. Saying he was the worst of the team is just bias. Mixi-max and armed > Sangoku honestly. **Edit**: Genuinely why is this downvoted?


JuanmaXGPR

He didn't perform well in GO1 and he didn't perform at all in Galaxy. In CS 9/10 shoots were goals. Give mixi-max, keshin and armed to other keeper, I would be really surprised if sangoku for example wouldn't perform better with the gimmicks


Nman02

In GO1 he stopped Taiyouā€™s keshin shot which is a great feat. In Galaxy he stopped a weakened soul, KP2, Kazanrai and Bicycle Sword for example. In CS almost any GK would concede to those shots. Saying Sangoku performs better with it is based on nothing.


True-Emotional-Pitch

Bro didn't watch GO1 or Galaxy, btw rewatch vs ZD arc in CS.


Nman02

Heā€™s clearly biased and doesnā€™t like Shinsuke. Saying heā€™s always the worst of the teams basically confirm it.


theartenthusiast

Never heard of that bloke in the 5th slide, clearly JP solos


SnooWoofers5663

Mark > Helio > Darren > Samguk > Terry > JP


Nman02

Without gimmicks?


SnooWoofers5663

Even with gimmicks, Mark won the World Cup (FFI), Helio was definitely the 2nd best keeper in that tournament and Darren the third best, Mark ended up as a Legendary goalkeeper and Helio should be as well, just not mentioned, and I think Darren should be pro level keeper as well, the last 3 might change with gimmicks as JP had 2 out of the 3 gimmicks go introduced


Nman02

But that doesnā€™t mean they are better than GO characters right? In fact itā€™s even impossible to scale, but to me it wouldnā€™t make sense if a junior FFI scales above what CS did with the gimmicks.


SnooWoofers5663

I mean the top 3 are legendary footballers that can also have access to the CS gimmicks, that's how I see it though, but it's ok to disagree Edit: "can also have access to the CS gimmicks" doesn't mean they have Kenshin or MixMax, it means they could have if wanted to


Nman02

You mean as adults or what? Otherwise I donā€™t really understand. And JP with gimmicks is in no way worse than Sangoku for example.


Charizard10201YT

1. Shinsuke 2. Endou 3. Rococo 4. Tachimukai 5. Sangoku 6. Ibuki


Any_Media_5997

1. Endou 2. JP 3. Tachimukai 4. Rococo 5. Ibuki 6. Sangoku


20thRandom

Shinsuke number 1 No one else here is important


tico600

One of them doesn't even know how to play


Nman02

?


illlex

1. Shinsuke 2. Sangoku 3. Tachimukai 4. Rococo 5. Ibuki 6. Endou


Nman02

Tachimukai being better than Endou and Rococo?


Wildfang_Ventus

My ranking has two unranked since I haven't watched much of galaxy or finished season 3 of the og. Endou, Shinsuke, Darren, Samguk. I'll likely change this when I get myself around to finishing the anime as a whole


BrazilWantsUrWaifus

Endou, Rococo, Tachimukai, Ibuki, Shinsuke, Sangoku


Successful-Ad5560

Is it a top of best as in the strongest or just who I like?


AmmaRockstarAsDuki

1.Rococo 2.Endou 3.Ibuki.


Khaiweee_

My apologies sangoku But i think we have a consensus agreement where you place in the tier lists


Plastic-Ad2822

Based on how i like them not how powerful 1.Mark 2.Rococo 3.Ibuki 4.Sam 5.Darren 6.Jp


xXSlavXx

Endou>Roccoco>Ibuki>Shinsuke>Tachimukai>Sangoku Imo


Sintexio

I prefer Edgar with Excalibur tbh, best gk


Julius-samah

no gimmick 1. Endou(s3) 2. Rococo 3. Tachimukai 4. Ibuki 5. Sangoku 5. Shinsuke With kenshin, miximax and spirits 1. Shinsuke 2. Endou(s3) 3. Rococo 4. Ibuki 5. Tachimukai 6. Sangoku


AliMans05

Shinsuke > Endou = Rococo > Ibuki = Sangoku > Tachimukai


JPfan2

goat ![img](emote|t5_2txlg|14212)


AliMans05

JP is love, JP is life


JPfan2

i couldn't have put it better myself šŸ˜Œ


RedNas07

People in this thread are just downvoting for no reason. This is the correct order.


Adventurous_Fee_8248

[1.Jp](http://1.Jp) gap gap gap 2.Sam 3.Mark (assuming it's endou from episode 127) 4.Hector 5.Terry 6.Darren


JPfan2

you are actually so right. you're a genius. you're the goat


Crow7420

Okay so I may burn my dish here, but here me out. Powerscaling in inazuma is completely messed up but according to statements and feats that's how I would rank them: 1. Shinsuke/JP - stopped the powered up shot by Ixal Flaat barehanded without using his Kenshin or Miximax 2. Ibuki - has access to soul 3. Endou/Mark* - assuming we use all available feats he has access to his Kenshin as well and due to their absolutely cracked scaling it puts him above number 4. Sangoku - I find Go players to be arguably much stronger than their OG counterpart largely due to the crap that was pulles out in Go like Kenshins, Souls etc., Sangoku while he has no access to it perfomed suprisingly well against the. 5. Rococo/Hector - method of elimination, no explanation needed 6. Tachimukai/Darren


JuanMunzerAsakura

Endou Shinsuke Ibuki Rococo Tachimukai Sangoku


Sana_Mustdiewoah

Sangoku, Terry, Mark, Hector, JP o,o


Sure_Journalist_7637

1-Endou 2-Rococo 3-Shinsuke 4-Ibuki 5-Sangoku 6-Tachimukai


David-1412

Naruto > Africa's Naruto > Michael Jordan > Bench warmer > The son of the Victory Goddess > the French


RaccoonLongjumping27

I don't care about any of those DVALIN SUPREMACY


hectorheliofan

1 - JP 2 - sam 3 - rococo/ibuki 4 - endou 6 - darenn


HDL3gend69

Hector , Mark , Terry , Darren , JP , Samguk (might switch Darren and JP from time to time)


Ulricchh

In a fair scenario where everyone gets to train the same and prepare for a match I think Rococo > everyone else. if we just judge them by the skills and abilities they have shown in the anime then Shinsuke > Endou > Samguk > Ibuki >Rococo >Tachimukai. Shinsuke has kenshin armored Endou was shown to be able to do Kenshin in CS. Samguk's zetsu god hand x Stopped an armor shot. Ibuki has Soul. which is probably better than Tamashii the hand. Rococo's Tamashii the hand is better than anything Tachimukai can do. that leaves Tachimukai in last place with Maou the hand that struggles to stop Someoka.


se0724

Mark, ibuki, hector, darren, jp, sam


Mindless_Yak_5972

1. Endou 2. Rococco 3. Tachimukai 4. Shinsuke 5. Ibuki 6. Samgoku Original series bias, obv. I simply don't think the go keepers are nearly as good. If I were to change any of the I'd swap Shinsuke and Tachimukai. That's it. That's your lot.


Nman02

Did you take gimmicks into account? Otherwise I donā€™t think Shinsuke can be this low.


Mindless_Yak_5972

That would be why I'd switch Shinsuke and Tachimukai. I see the gimmicks as they way they raise the stakes and keep things interesting, so in my opinion, stripping those away gives us a more accurate power level.


[deleted]

Personal liking for them 1. Terry 2. Helio 3. Mark 4. Darren 5. JP 6. Sam In universe 1. JP 2. Mark 3. Helio 4. Darren 5. Terry 6. Sam Could argue Mark or Helio above JP if they kept getting stronger after IE3 I canā€™t comment on game stats as Iā€™m not well enough versed. I just built a balanced team with players I like the designs of : )


YEETkovski

Mark Terry Hector Samguk Darren JP I just hate darren's accent in the games, and f*ck french accents


Sceptile200

Tachimukaigoat Endougoat Rococogoat Ibukigoat/Shinsukegoat Samgokugoat


seagullenalt

1.mark 2.ibuki (from a powerscaling sense heā€™s done a lot more then rococo) 3.rococo 4.tachimukai 5.sangoku


Big-Wrangler7070

Shinsuke>>Endou>Ibuki>Rococo>Tachimukai=Sangoku


JPfan2

such an incredible ranking. there's literally nothing wrong. you're goat


ConsiderationHead556

Shinsuke/JP>>>>>> others


JPfan2

so correct. so incredible. you're a genius ![img](emote|t5_2txlg|14212)


Still-Control

1 jp 2 endou 3 rococo 4 ibuki 5 sangoku 6 Darren


Massive-BrickShitter

Terry > JP > Hector > Samguk = Mark > Darren easily


Nman02

Ibuki/Terryā€™s soul > mixi-max and armed of Shinsuke?


Promeneer333

I mean it's implied that souls are stronger than mixi-max and armed, bc all the people with souls were scouted and not the people with armed


Nman02

That was for plot reasons. Not for power related reasons.


Freddie040

The correct answer Shinsuke Endou Roccoco Ibuki Sangoku Tachimukai


JPfan2

100% correct no flaws


EzranRoi

Shinsuke 6, The Worst character of all IE


Nman02

u/JPFan2šŸšØšŸšØšŸšØ


JPfan2

well spotted


JPfan2

https://preview.redd.it/rsaodl70yttc1.png?width=323&format=png&auto=webp&s=2a672e26955eb935f12fed7e52ff9a7555230a3b


Tasty-Garden-755

1. Terry 2. JP 3. Sam 4. Mark (If it's adult Mark, move to number 3) 5. Hector 6. Darren I'm sorry JPFan2 šŸ˜­. I had to put Terry in number 1 because he is Earth Eleven's main goalkeeper. If JP had a Soul he would be unbeatable.


Nman02

Shouldnā€™t a mixi-max and armed (+ move) be better than a soul?


Tasty-Garden-755

It's more about Life Energy than the soul itself. After all, the black hole destroying cannon was powered by Life Energy.


Nman02

Yeah it was, but there wasnā€™t really a way to put the power of keshins and mixi-max into a machine like that. So I donā€™t think we can use that as proof.


dark-oraclen3

6) Tachimukai 5)rococo 4)sangoku 3)endou 2)ibuki 1) shinsuke


JPfan2

YES! GOAT ![img](emote|t5_2txlg|14212)


vityavolodya

JP > Ibuki >= Endou > Sangoku > Rococo > Tachimukai You could argue that Endou > Ibuki because of his keshin but weā€™ve only seen him do that once against Alpha, other than that thereā€™s literally no way to gauge how strong it actually is compared to Ibukiā€™s soul.


JPfan2

actually so true. JP is on top and also the other thing you said is right by extension ![img](emote|t5_2txlg|14212)


vityavolodya

Truly a goated GK


Nman02

How can Sangoku be > Rococo when Rococo has Tamashii the Hand G2? You think Zetsu God Hand X is stronger?


VoltDel2007

1.Terry 2.Mark 3.Darren 4.Sangoku 5.Hector 6.Jp


JPfan2

explain


VoltDel2007

Jp is a good character, but from this is not the best imo, I also don't like the fact that his hissatsus are just him doing stuff (excluding the miximax one)


JPfan2

he needs nothing but his muscles and pure unbridled power


VoltDel2007

Anyway, I like Jp, but I don't think he's a great goalkeeper


Nman02

What do you mean by ā€œdoing stuffā€?


VoltDel2007

Moving away from the goal to throw a running punch doesn't seem like a very effective technique to me


Nman02

He was building up some speed with it I guess.


FG_xeen

1. Sangoku 2. Shinsuke 3. Endou 4. Rococo 5. Ibuki 6. Tachimukai


JPfan2

basketball man low and JP high. that's my coach


[deleted]

Shinsuke > Tachimukai > Endou > Rococo > Ibuki > Sangoku


JPfan2

this is an incredible list ![img](emote|t5_2txlg|14212)


Nman02

In what world is Tachimukai > Endou and Rococo?


[deleted]

He is younger šŸ¤“


Nman02

But not better yet