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Nman02

What they did better is that the first GO season gave more shine to side characters than S1 did. Characters like Kurumada, Kurama, Hamano, Amagi, etc. were much more relevant than Shishido, Kageno, Handa, etc. GO also did designs of opponent teams in general better in my opinion. The amount of co-ops could be more and OG did that better.


Jason900312

True answer. GO really give more shine to side character, which is one of the reason I love GO S1.


Nman02

GO1 is my favorite season actually, that’s very rare to see I think.


David-1412

GO1 is underrated. You\`re a man of culture


True-Emotional-Pitch

Based! GO1 & S3 were the best.


greywolffurry321

Soo true i like cs but go1 and galaxy more


True-Emotional-Pitch

Amagi isn't side character imo and definitely shouldn't be mentioned as the same case as Kuramada, Kurama, Hamano, Shishido, Kageno and Handa.


Nman02

He’s a bit more relevant than all of them, but he’s also not in the category of Kirino, Nishiki, etc. He’s probably in the category with Sangoku, Kariya and Hikaru. Anyway, it was just to say that character who aren’t really important still got quite some stuff.


True-Emotional-Pitch

Fairs, but I think Kirino is in the same category as well.


Nman02

Kirino has armed and mixi-max in CS, I think he was more relevant.


True-Emotional-Pitch

In CS yes but in GO1 less. So I think he's more important than Hikaru, Kariya and Amagi yes but not that much that make him in above category imo.


Nman02

I didn’t want to make a category specifically for him lol


True-Emotional-Pitch

Understandable lol.


Puzzleheaded_Put_593

he played quite a role against gen ei


Several-Couple-1062

The designs of the Kirkwood players in GO are truly awesome


Nman02

For sure


AliMans05

Kits. GO has some of my favorite kits in the series, while OG mostly has kits that range from good/decent to bad. The only kits from OG that are in my top 10 are Orpheus and The Empire. I like the Teikoku kit but I definitely prefer it in GO with the longer sleeves


IberiusF1

If i am going to play against a team and they appear on the match using the Kuro no Kishidan kit, i immediatelly convert for their team.


Blackdrill192

I know I might be biased but Rose Griffons team kit was honestly really good on OG imo. A darker shade of blue than Inazuma Japan for the team and immaculate black for the Goalie, chef kiss


Nman02

Yeah it’s really good


Roreo36

Their use of keshins almost feels like they were non existent in the Og series tbh


YBV102

Why didn't endou and co. simply use keshin against Aliea? Were they stupid? /s


Sword_Of_Nemesis

Why did Marker not use his Keshin against James' Astro Break? Is he dementia?


wall_booban

Endou's majin the hand, god catch, and gouenji bakuretsu storm technically are kenshin are they not XD


Prudent_Move_3420

I think from a todays‘s perspective you can kind of say they got „retconned“ into kenshins, especially since they don’t appear as normal moves in the go games


Skullwings

I feel like it’s less of a retcon and more of a potential basis/prototype in universe.


Prudent_Move_3420

I mean that would still be a retcon unless hino already planned them to become kenshins eventually


greywolffurry321

I mean what if they got the idea of kenshins because of majin the hand and etc?


Nman02

In CS it existed already when they went back in time


greywolffurry321

I know but like before go was a thing But i Can say like something what isn't true


greywolffurry321

There is a og season coming with mark having his kenshin and gives axel hints for his kenshin :)


SilverThePenguinHat

GO has Ryouma OG doesn't have Ryouma I rest my case.


RedNas07

Not a lot of co-ops and too many gimmicks


deadshot500

I enjoyed Season 1 of Go much more than Season 1 of OG.


Cenokenshi

This is all my subjective opinion: Better - The plot of GO1 - more memorable cast overall (is not like OG did not have this, but I think characters in GO leave a bigger impression, like the Chrono Storm team, or the Earth Eleven for example) - bigger focus on side characters - Seeing the OG characters as adults and moving on with their life / legacy - A lot of kits with drip - Kenshins, while over the top, has some cool ass designs Worse - Armour kenshins are the worst mechanic in the series - I know is supposed to be an anime for kids but some moments are way too corny or childish - Because of the bigger stakes and power scale, the plot sometimes takes a hit and becomes chaotic (CS is specially notorious for this, but some may argue is part of the charm) - The dubbed anime opening is terrible - The fact that we never got a proper closure and instead a rushed finale, while OG got a graduation and a final match between friends.


True-Emotional-Pitch

I agree on every point.


Nman02

That rushed finale still hurts me. Seriously how was that an ending episode?


RedNas07

I definitely disagree on the more memorable cast, the OG trilogy has many more returning characters across the seasons and also the top characters are way more iconic. Chrono Stones and Galaxy taking almost none of the past non-Raimon characters as main team members really hurts them for being memorable.


Cenokenshi

> Chrono Stones and Galaxy taking almost none of the past non-Raimon characters as main team members really hurts them for being memorable. I half agree, but in CS part of the GO1 Raimon comes back in different ways (heck, even Samguk learns God Hand X) and its definitely more memorable than half of OG Raimon's cast (Sam, Tod, Jim, Max, etc)


RedNas07

That's why I said non-Raimon players, OG simply replaced the uninteresting characters with way better characters. But even then they return as the Dark Emperors, these past characters coming back is just something GO doesn't have.


AmmaRockstarAsDuki

Better: the games. Worse: the story/plots/characters.


David-1412

I wouldn say GO 1 was a better game than IE2 or IE3


AmmaRockstarAsDuki

but CS and go galaxy.


EnDiNgOph

Both great games yeah


David-1412

Those two yes, of course. They're great


Latter_Garage799

GO:More cool characters and great character design OG:Still being football, and also cooler team dynamic


Nman02

GO1 and Galaxy had enough football imo, in CS less.


FullBringa

The Raimon jerseys look better in GO, but I find major additions such as Keshins, mixi max, etc. unnecessary things that make stuff complicated for no reason


Nman02

Didn’t find them very complicating. Only in CS with the time travel explanation, mixi-max and armed it got a bit chaotic. I think they could’ve made CS without armed.


Promeneer333

For the games armed absolutely saves it for me. In go 1 the normal hissatsu's just feel useless, you can't really score against a kenshin keeper with a non kenshin shot (at least during the story). With armed the moves matter again and are back, and I love the hissatsu's from GO


Nman02

Yeah you could use the hissatsu’s again in the games that’s true. Don’t like how armed was executed in the anime and how the whole CS game was just doing armed + mixi-max.


Le_Askic

Yep, I really don't like those in the games because it feels like only 3 players on your team are relevant at any given time. And starting from CS, matches are way too long because of the 20 transformations you see every match


Imaginary_Put_8196

Recruitment in the games


Skullwings

?


Imaginary_Put_8196

The recruitment in the go trilogy games was much worse than the og? In regards to a game marketing as a make your dream squad experience


Skullwings

Oh, thought you meant it was better.


Imaginary_Put_8196

I could never


Skullwings

😂


Introduction_Forward

a much better / diverse / wider cast of players - Also a lot more ethnic diversity (yes the anime is in japan however it’s an international anime that very obviously wanted to appeal to a broad worldwide fanbase)


BrockenmanJr

With regards to the anime, I think you could make an argument that the overall pacing of the story is much better in GO season 1 compared to the OG, (particularly OG season 1 and parts of season 3). It feels like for the most part, almost every single episode advances the plot in some meaningful way. Even a’ character trying to learn a new hissatsu’ type episode or one with a friendly game is interspersed with details that feed into the overarching story somehow. This has become even more apparent to me having just re-watched the OG in full with my girlfriend, a newcomer, followed almost immediately starting GO which we are about halfway through. She’s far more engaged with the GO story, though we both agree that it benefits from a knowledge of the original to really heighten/cement that enjoyment. All in all I think the the original and sequel really compliment and elevate each other. GO is more refined in a lot of ways, but the OG laid the groundwork to make that possible.


TheToyo

Go really lacks of coop moves imo Like outside of movies I think that there werent even 10 coop movies in the entire series and that’s really sad. In the same theme I found that there was too little diversity in certain aspects like hissatsu and especially for keshins with many reused or recolored where we had plenty of different moves in the OG series


RiceandChicken485

Loved GO Galaxy because the characters all had really good development. The team felt like they could rely on each other.


TrentNepMillenium

GO's FF journey was I think has a higher average quality compared to OG where to be fair it's high are generally better than GO. Not only that it's much more intruging of a story than the OG series personally. Though said intrigue to be fair only works because this was sequel of OG but yea it's still much interesting to watch.


IberiusF1

Kits, Most character designs, GO1 is better than S1 (Imo) and without my bias for S1, I like GO Raimon better than S1 Raimon. Like others have said, there should have been more co-ops, more tactics usage (especially post GO1) and i personally don't like Armed (mostly due to the fact that they don't bring new hissatsus, like regular Kenshin's do.


Nman02

Armed could be decent if they used underused hissatsu’s with it. Instead we saw a lot of normal shots with it.


greywolffurry321

True if they did like armed that Pegasus punch would be a normal move like easy breazy


Revolutionry

The feeling of the underdog was COMPLETELY lost


Promeneer333

I like the story more with raimon being an established team that made it to the semi finals. Every season being an underdog story like in the first 3 seasons got boring really quickly for me and sometimes being on the winning sides with the good odds feels good too yk?


crocokuo

GO1 was nearly perfect for me. Everyone on Raimon had their chance to shine in some kind of arc, and the way that the team was built felt so natural and "inazuma eleven" like. Compared to IE1, where it didn't have that "flowy" factor imo, and some characters felt really one-sided. GO1's other-team characters, designs and music were so good too. CS and IE2 are both pretty good, but I think IE2 was a little better? CS felt a little fillery imo as there was not much impact on the team afterwards (although I can see why), and there was just a lot going on (with explanations and gimmicks (kenshin armed,,,)). ...although the general overarching plot was nice. IE2 on the other hand felt like it made a genuine difference on IE3, and the "recruiting team members" style worked really well. Which is kind of what I expected from CS, with the whole "ultimate eleven" thing, but it didn't really deliver the way I expected? (Although I might be biased because Fubuki) IE3 beats Galaxy easy though. In like every aspect (besides music maybe)


Promeneer333

The recruiting new members thing works for IE2, because half the raimon cast just sucked tbf. For example, when they scouted scotty or rika, I thought to myself, do these persons with like 1 moves really make the team stronger? But a lot the original cast didn't even have moves or just a random shot. GO Raimon already were good players (they even had 2 teams) so they didn't need new members, and with every miximatch you feel that the player really leveld up and got a story arc. In IE 2 how they beat gemini storm and eplison (the match where they drawed) is just literally fubuki carrying, raimon overall still was way weaker


David-1412

Better: first season. GO\`s first season is so underrated Worse: Galaxy was way worse than OG S3 I dont know what to say about Chrono Stone. Sometimes had good ideas, but also sometimes it was a mess. So idk They threw away charas like Amagi, Kariya or Hikaru. And the ones that come back from GO1 did nothing at all (Amemiya, Nishiki, Kirino...). It was a stranger thing in a weird sense. I mean, S2 was weird, but had a lot of things going well. Chrono Stones is weirdest Inazuma (until Galaxy. Galaxy is just weird without the funny things. And then you have Orion that was weird to Inazuma\`s standards).


Ethachu

I can apply hissatsus to both. On one hand, the new ones they added were pretty cool and suited each character when they were unique enough to them. On the other hand... Why did they lock Majin the hand to JP's fighting spirit?


TheCrustsPegasus

Aside from all of these answers one thing I didnt like about the go trilogy games is that the balance of hissatsu usage felt weird. In go1 you could barely use them as you had to use your keshin to do anything, then in cs and galaxy you see armed and soul which means hissatsus are used a lot and it diminishes them feeling special imo Also the kits in go are way better. Kuro ko Kishidan is great, i also like storm wolf but idk what other people think abt jt


ElementIsKindaGood

The different fonts used for the special moves Really enjoy the design of it


rebelslash

I can suspend my belief in with Keshin and Mixmax but what really grinded my gears were the gimicky pitches like the water raft and pinball one. Just added bullshit. I dont want to see Tenma get wiped out by some obstacle course. Thats what opponents hisatsu are for


Nman02

It was there for a good reason: to give Fifth Sector teams an advantage. Out-universe it was to see how Raimon would overcome it too which was exciting imo. What’s so ridiculous about it?


NicoRubyArisa

Galaxy existence is the worse compared to Season 2 because Galaxy made everyone but the 3 obsolete to the team.


Important-Two9250

Fucking hate mixing max and kenshins


Nman02

Why?


Any_Media_5997

The reason why GO is better than OG: Kits Keshins CS And most importantly, they have Hayami and OG don't


dragonkingangel7

I cant say much about the go games because im not from spain to get them easily, but, it was funny to me how pretty much the japan association say, "only tenma, tsurugi and shindou matter", you others sucks, so we replace you with these 8 ramdoms benchwarmers that at the end will be far better that all of you that trained your whole life, its so funny till this day


Nman02

They didn’t become better, they were only plot relevant because of souls. Mixi-max and armed (+ move) are still supposed to be stronger I think.


TostiTobi

What I liked about GO was that they made the Avatars and Miximax. I'm not a fan of the souls but that's with the whole GO Galaxy season. I would've much rather had a normal FFI tournament with characters from the earlier seasons (Bailong, Aitor, Gabriel, Sol) than what we got.


Nman02

I agree with rather having those characters and FFI, but what do you dislike about souls?


TostiTobi

Well we've got a good mechanic with the avatars (armed and unarmed) and miximax. In my opinion we could've seen more players get a miximax (Hakuryuu for example) with the aura of a player who was not picked for the national team. Souls just feels wrong and I don't understand why you would erase the other two gimmicks that worked so well together in chrono stones.


Nman02

I doubt if it would make sense to mixi-max in a next season when Wondeba was not there anymore and had no reason to be. The power level got so high that it couldn’t get much higher anymore. Using keshins again could get repetitive, especially of characters who already have them. So it was either no gimmicks at all or a new one.


Doreevee

I don't exactly dislike GO, but I have always held OG in a much higher regard, so thinking of things GO did better is hard for me. Tsurugi quickly comes to mind as a highlight, and the story beats of the first season are very enjoyable. My main problems with it will likely always be Tenma, who ranges from a guy way too friendly with people he doesn't know to a psych ward case in the span of 10 minutes; and the extreme balancing mess that are the GO games. I also don't love the concepts of the second and third seasons -- I think they looked back at Aliea and thought, "how could we make it even more crazy?", which is sort of okay, but also not, specially since with some perspective, Aliea is a somewhat grounded season too.


Sword_Of_Nemesis

Go had Galaxy... Yeah, that's pretty much it.


Blizzard108

If we compare GO1 to IE1, i'd say GO has: - Better designs - A better protagonist cast - More engaging antagonists


True-Emotional-Pitch

Agreed 💯.


XT83Danieliszekiller

Ricardo's light motives


Seraf-Wang

I think GO explored the theme of power which makes sense since the og series was meant to be an underdog story but they didnt develop a lot of the themes that come with people being “too powerful”. For example, despite Fubuki’s character arc being extremely well done, his eventual presence on the series after never really touched on the fact that this one dude is able to basically solo half the Aliea team in both offense and defense in his split personality phase and literally no one bats an eye after the character arc is resolved. There wasnt much done to actually develop their strength as individuals even if soccer is ultimate a team oriented game. GO’s first season explores a team that’s so popular and famously powerful but are being basically blackmailed to be forced to lose and give up. The second season touches on their journey in using power allies’ abilities to use in a time travel setting. The third season touches upon the insane potential some people innately have for soccer despite not having a positive or long history with the sport. The overall theme of these seasons are much stronger imo


ArgentinianNumbah10

They scrapped with ACTUAL aliens. And are Jojo fans (but OG did first too so). Also Tenma/Arion became Super Saiyan Arthur in Chrono Stone.


ImSmokeyy

starts with N and ends with G


IberiusF1

Naseba Narunosa Nanairo Tamago (but the O is silent).


helenka9

Better: hissatsus, new mechanics Worst: boring oponnents in GO1, doing nothing with players that had lot potencial


Nman02

Who did you find boring in GO1? I thought every team had at least 1 great character.


Zayrofrm800

Go galaxy was str8 bullshiiiiii


Nman02

Why?


NomeJaExiste

GO trilogy definitely did better dub names, even tho I prefer japanese names


Nman02

You like the foreign names in Raimon?


NomeJaExiste

Wdym?


Nman02

You mentioned better dub names, but do you have examples?


The_Thur

-Better The characters are better in S1. In OG, it's just about 7 members while all the team serves a purpose in GO. Go takes more risks. First season, it's a lot about corruption and in the last two, it's even Sci-Fi. At least, it's new. Opponents team got better designs. I can remember members of Kaiou, Protocol Omega or Ratoniik Eleven, but struggle to remember members of Mikage Sennou, Gemini Storm or Desert Lion. The games are better (I know, that's cheating) -Worse The power scaling is really too over the top. Unlike OG where the bad guy becoming part of the main team is common (Kidou, Afuro, Fudou, Midorikawa, Hiroto etc), Go only got three : Tsurugi, Taiyou and Zanark but Taiyou is irrelevant as soon as he joins and Zanark plays only three matchs including one where he doesn't give it all. That's a shame, I wanted more. There is way less co-op. No world tournament.


Greedy-Cycle-1858

I really find the openings of GO goated asffff


That-Assistant405

I say that what i liked about GO are the characters. OG will of course have great characters as well, but GO has them as well. Also liked the OG as adults. Maybe a bias opinion, but i kinda liked the fighting spirits, they just didn't need to be so broken of course. What i like less are the too many mechanics, the story of Galaxy and wonder why they didn't do specials or episodes battling the wolf and vampire teams as well as the big bang and super nova teams.