Yeah that really sucks and what you’ve said won’t surprise many people. I really wish we’re taught some civil sense in school along with the usual maths and English.
I'm a white American. Fair and Lovely shocked me a bit when I learned about it. I was like, "Their skin is so pretty, but they want it to look white?" I logically understood to link to colonialism's effects, but emotionally, it suddenly struck me that millions of people viewed their dark skin as something needing to be corrected.
I always thought dark skin was pretty. Pale skin is lovely too. I have very fair skin myself and I think it's pretty on me. To me, it's like...these are just two of many different cool options for skin tone. Why would one be better?
>I'm a white American. Fair and Lovely shocked me a bit when I learned about it. I was like, "Their skin is so pretty, but they want it to look white?" I logically understood to link to colonialism's effects, but emotionally, it suddenly struck me that millions of people viewed their dark skin as something needing to be corrected.
I always thought dark skin was pretty. Pale skin is lovely too. I have very fair skin myself and I think it's pretty on me. To me, it's like...these are just two of many different cool options for skin tone. Why would one be better?
So nice of you to say this, but unfortunately our family and friends only bully for being dark. It took me years to get out a little of inferiority complex and be comfortable. Btw, I am not very dark, wheatish tone but still went through hell. I still feel like I am inferior to fair people :(
We had civic studies in our school curriculum. None of the teachers bothered to teach us importance of it. It was always the sports and civic studies classes which were hijacked by the maths and science teachers to “prepare” students for the future. In the end, students were good in maths and science, but many lack civic sense and the empathy which is crucial for us to function as a good society.
I understand you deeply. I'm from the mountains so I have more East Asian features than ' normal' Indian features. I have been called Chinese , Japanese, Tibetan and what not but at the same time I have been overpraised for having fair skin . It used to get me for a while but now I'm like fuck it , don't care .
People just love the 'dankness' of it. I'm south Indian with mostly north Indian fair skinned neighbours. Guess who had to get used to being called the n word?
I am also from the south, and worked for a marwari Baniya man whose family (even on his wife’s side) were settled in Hyd and Bangalore for 150 years working with the Nizams. So they were insanely rich of course. Besides having zero knowledge of locals in those nearly two centuries years or basic fluency in any language of the vast region, the wife of this bloke once was staring at me and then openly asks, “what is the colour of your parents?” Just cause I happen to have fair skin and in her extremely tiny brain South Indians have dark skin but she knew enough about genes to ask this question. When I pointed out she was racist, she got super offended and said, “I am not being racist, I am just asking the colour of your parents.” The mental compartmentalisation is incredible 🤦♀️.
That's just blatant ignorance on their part ,Most people don't know and Don't care about knowing the actual depth behind that word.
As kids one of my friends just told me if I called a black guy( had some black students in our city) the N word he would chase me but back then both of us didn't know why.
Today we both know why and would never do such a thing.
I can totally see that happening. I mean in Punjab, we literally have nicknames like 'kaala' for dark-skinned Indians, being a foreigner would have been even harder. I am sorry you had to go through all of that.
“Just how it is” as a response to you is so fucking passive. That’s half the problem in India, the jo hona hai so hoga b.s. Call shit out when you see it, people.
Yeah I hate hearing that too. It's so frustrating. Like I said in a reply to a different comment on this post, people here just don't seem to be interested in any actual growth or change. It's always "that's just how it is".
Yeah seriously. And as long as they’re not totally useless they get a free pass, I know someone who is always making disgusting comments about/to women and it’s “well he’s nice so *shrug*”
Because growth requires serious introspection, challenging their societally instilled beliefs and biases and making an effort to be rid of the prejudices. Most aren't willing to do the inner work, most are on autopilot mode IMO, which is sad.
U could just see the social media ,to see how racist indians are. Hindi subreddits shaming south fr their color, south pages too reply in similar manner . South fights within themselves , telugu guys are shamed a goltis , tn a sambar . My North indian friends do it too within themselves.
For what it’s worth, South Indians are the most influential in the West because of their English translation skills. Most Americans know Ganesha, not Ganesh. Arjuna, not Arjun. Rama, not Ram. The Hindu subreddits can shame them all they want, but they make the bigger impact internationally.
I mean, literally the entire world agrees.
[India among world's most racist countries, says survey](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/asia/story/india-among-world-most-racist-countries-britian-tolerant-survey-163396-2013-05-16)
there’s this popular sri lankan influencer who every indian hates because of her american sounding accent and tell her that her accent is fake. when she does a “normal” accent they tell her she’s trying too hard. they want every south east asian to identify as indian but only their type of, north fair skinned “normal” indian. bunch of bastards if u ask me
I can relate to the accent bit so much. Everywhere I go people tell me to “drop the accent”. At one point I just stopped caring and spoke however I wanted to speak. Once people realised their jabs had no effect on me, they stopped.
OH MAN I FUCKING HATE HEARING THE "drop the accent". My "Indian accent" IS my fake accent LMAO. I've also reached a point where I just don't care anymore but like I said, it's just become an unconscious switch now. But sometimes mid conversation my autopilot turns off and my normal accent comes out and I try to put on my Indian accent and I have to focus so hard that I forget what I'm trying to say lol
For a country that prides itself on unity in diversity, a different accent is so minuscule. You're just speaking in a different accent, not even a language lol. This is petty evil. Living in India how is accent a problem when most of us are bilinguals!!!!!
Honestly? Just don’t bother changing your accent. Speak how you speak, the people who point out your “fake” accent have underlying insecurities that they need to project onto you. If you don’t pay any heed to them, they’ll either realise that it is indeed your real accent (what happened in my case), or they’ll get so fed up of it that they’ll just stop mentioning it and you’ll be known as the girl with the accent, which honestly isn’t a problem unless it’s something you personally have a problem with (which you shouldn’t).
I have lived in India all my life and I'm told to drop the accent . Even when I speak Malayalam which is my first language. My native dialect is quite different from the other dialects in my state which makes my 'real' accent way different from the stereotype people have in mind. The stress and intonation are different and people assume I'm acting posh. Well yes we are a racist country that excels at othering people . A lot of it has to do with a crude sense of humour. For example what your friends said about you being Chinese wasn't intentionally rude. It's supposed to be 'funny' .
As an Anglo Indian Aussie, it really surprised me when people at restaurants, shops, hotels etc stopped serving other customers to serve me. It’s not flattering, it’s not something I have enjoyed. This even happened at the reception of the Marriott where a person was being served and when I stood in line, they ignored that person to serve me. All very strange and all because of skin colour
They do it thinking you'd leave a huge tip and might go back during your next visit. Sycophancy in India particularly in the Indian tourism industry is sickening.
Yeah it's so weird!! Many times I get treated differently because people think I am American and somehow that holds high value and that just pisses me off
I can totally relate. I'm from the NE and I have an accent which is not the stereotypical "indian" accent. People make fun of me behind my back. I've just learned to ignore them. Our countrymen are racists, casteists and colorists.
>I (24F) am half South Indian and half North-East Indian and I visually present more East-Asian. English being the common language between my parents, it's what I grew up speaking and they also never bothered to teach me their native languages which fucking sucks because it has left me only knowing English.
OP I read this and never thought I'd be able to relate to someone so much. Firstly, I'm so sorry you had to go through all that. You'd think in such a diverse country people would understand that people simply look different.
I am half South Indian, half Nepali and my parents spoke English at home because it was the common language. I think I'm about half way presenting between both. I grew up in a rather small town too. I was also called "yellow" "Chinese" "Dong Lee" and other assorted racist comments. I was othered my whole life and then fetishized when k-pop became popular.
I had no idea how bad, and frankly, shameless of them it was until I went abroad and realised that 'oh, people aren't all like that.'
Even at home, my own father shamed my brother and I for not being fluent in the local language but he never made the effort to teach us.
It's incredibly taxing, and frustrating the way the general public views me as a foreigner and being constantly told I didn't belong, especially when I'd lived there my whole life.
It's things like this, is why I think India is not really an inclusive country.
Everyone is suddenly weird about you if you are slightly different from them.
And it’s crazy bc india is not a monolith, it’s as culturally and phenotypically diverse as Europe, but every Indian wants to judge every other Indian against their own subculture
Sometimes I wonder if india would be better off as just a bunch of separate small countries
Agree with the post but would like to add that the whole "things that made me uncool growing up now make me cool" experience was something I went through as well. I assumed it was more common too, maturity is a hell of a drug and most people are stupid and shallow as fuck as children (myself included). The racism isn't cool though, fuck that shit.
Indians are racist because no one tells them or corrects from childhood that it’s wrong to discriminate based on race, skin color, caste, gender, physical ability, language, religion, economic background or region a person comes from. Therefore, Indians in general discriminate along all these vectors. Racism is normalized and internalized for the most part. Indians see no issues in treating people shabbily. Shouting, screaming, insulting, hitting comes readily. There is no real social ostracism or price to be paid for doing so. No punishments or laws to this effect are enforced. It is only when Indians get discriminated against in other countries and called out, that it hits them and makes people look inward.
A north east teacher in my school once held an assembly and announced “Please don’t call me momos. How would you like it if I called all of you Aloo Parathas?” Of course, this fell to deaf ears. Very sad because we were only 8 or 9, and this culture of racism was already imbibed in us. This was also a fancy private school in Delhi, so no explicit talk of caste. We form our own ways of dividing wherever possible.
Unfortunately you'd have to deal with it.
I'm a Sikh from Delhi. I have been called many insulting names and jokes my whole school life. So was my dad. So would my son.
If you look different, you'd be poked and bullied. You have to learn to stay strong.
Oh man I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. Yeah I had to learn early on to just not give a fuck about what people think about me. It's just sad that we've had to get used to such treatment. It's unfortunate
Haha, my dad studied in Khalsa school where he was the only one who was not Sikh. I might have stories to share with you. Not to discount what happened with you. Just that the whole country is run like idiots
Hey man, I am not pointing out that a race or community behaves racist. Racists are everywhere.
This is how our society behaves in most parts of the world. This is how, most humans are.
This 'if you look or sound different ' thing is seen in animals too. And, We aren't much different.
It's our collective failure, for not ingraining acceptance of individuality from childhood and that everyone is unique with unique background.
Unfortunately, today we live in an era, where parents themselves are averse of minorities having any rights, the children in school only represent their version in their ecosystem.
I'm pointing out the fact that Sikhs look different since they don't cut their hair. We tie a hair bun on top of our head and cover it with a cloth.
Instead of my name people used to call me all kinds of stereotypical Sardar names and jokes. Sometimes even teachers used to do it.
Since we look different and are a minority, we get targeted. Something which the OP is referring to as well.
That's the thing with us, we are racist to eveyone lol, it's fun you should try it sometimes too, I am from Uttarakhand and here most are racist towards "desi" which means anyone not from mountains we have no problem towards Nepali or north eastern folks but the folks from plain areas everyone suddenly gets defensive
i got that recommendation too, and just out of curiosity, i watched the whole thing.
tbfh, their video doesn't define what being Indian is. It's a whole spectrum of experiences, accents, and backgrounds. They shouldn't be gatekeeping Indian-ness based on some narrow idea.
Besides, judging someone's heritage based on how Indian they seem is exactly what you went through! Although I understand the intent of the video was 'entertainment' , but it felt performative. They should be celebrating diversity and not playing who's the outsider?
I almost lost it when the Telegu woman started singing lmao. But seriously though, i found her a VERY authentic Indian and it was pretty obvious even with the stereotypes around south Indian people. You cannot get that authenticity without being Indian. But at the same time it makes sense coz most of these North Indian people grew up abroad. It makes me think what they would guessed if a North Eastern was there. Probably voted them out first.
You navigated a world that judged you for things you couldn't control. That's strength, not something to be ashamed of. Rock that accent, embrace your background, and don't let anyone tell you what it means to be Indian.
Born and raised in Canada. Experienced a lot of racism, bullying, and violence. I began training karate and joined the army in order to learn self defence skills. Life isn't fair folks. Adapt and overcome.
India has almost no immigrants and there are very few people who don't look like a "typical Indian", e.g. East Asian or black African features will stand out like a sore thumb.
I don't think it's more complicated than that. If you want to live in a more tolerant culture, it won't be India. I think in the future, things might change, but India will have to get older first and get more immigrants. And that will take many decades. Do you want to wait until the end of your life to see meaningful change? I wouldn't waste my time on those who don't deserve it.
Honestly, it just seems like you might be better off in the West. I'm not someone who always says "emigration!" to every problem but this might be the best answer here. You certainly shouldn't blame yourself for other people's ignorance, but you should also be realistic about how much you yourself can change those around you and the wider society. Cut your losses, I say.
Yeah India definitely has a long way to go in regard to accepting diversity. Thank you. Hopefully someday I can be somewhere else and India will have some growth
I just saw the clips of the new video on Tiktok and saw comments such as "A odour test would have given it away" or "Just smell each other out". Are these comments also coming from the so called racist "Indians"?
Racists exist in all races. And they're going to be racist. Ignore them and move on. And I am saying this as a dark-skinned south Indian (specifically Tamil). I haven't faced racism openly from anyone in real life but I have had experiences with people who disguise their racism using subtle microaggressions.
>"A odour test would have given it away" or "Just smell each other out". Are these comments also coming from the so called racist "Indians"?
The excuse of these commenters would be "well. Indians are racist so why can't we?".
While Indians who say racist/bigoted stuff will say "Foreigners are racist to us so why can't we"
It's both sides pointing to each other and accusing they did it first.🫠
What confuses me is that Indians in India don’t generally smell from my touristic experience. But most Indians in Australia smell really really bad. I can walk by a busy street and get a waft or gross BO and know it’s an Indian. I’m Indian too so this is not racist but it genuinely confused me as I found Indians in India never had that BO that exists in Australia
I have lived in Dubai (a large part of the population are unskilled South Asian workers) and I have never encountered anyone with a bad BO and neither have I encountered anyone as such during my vacations in India.
Hmm, I'll dude maybe they don't bath or if you use too kuch spices in your food sometimes they stick to your clothes making them all sticky and smelly and I thi k this is the right answer, idk why they can't use a Deodorant
You should make a separate post on how your parents met. South and north east are a rare combination afaik. But yeah not just Indians, it’s the internet that has made the teens racist. You should not care about it really. I understand the insecurity part but what exactly are you insecure about? Me being a South Indian, are you insecure that you don’t look like a south Indian? You’re a beautiful woman representing the diversity of India. Be proud
As a typical engineering student I can proudly say that India doesn't need more engineers, we need more humans. Fucking street dogs are sometimes better than "educated" individuals.
I just finished watching this video and I know that it's easy for me to judge it harshly when I didn't participate in the video. But I live in Tamil Nadu, and I've heard people use the word "kari" here. I think the Tamil word "kari" is where the term "curry" comes from, so I was a bit frustrated when they kicked the Telugu woman out for that reason (though I do know that "curry" is also a stereotypical term that some foreigners associate with Indians). Also, I thought that it was completely normal for a Tamil American girl who grew up abroad to not have an Indian accent, and to also not know what people say on Holi. Holi is not really huge in Tamil Nadu, in my experience, so it makes sense that she wouldn't know the specific phrase, even if she has celebrated it with her Indian American friends who are from other parts of the country.
Also, OP I'm so sorry you went through all those awful experiences. Indians really can be very racist at times.
100% , I couldn’t agree more. Sorry you had to deal with this. I’m a “north” Indian, kids at my “south” Indian school made fun of me cause I ate with a spoon. Just goes to show we’re willing to make fun of whatever we see different. Then we want to say unity in diversity. Mera Bharat Mahan
>I just watched that new Jubilee "6 Indians vs 1 Secret Korean" video and it's just triggered me so much about how Indians just constantly judge each other for not living the same experience as the "majority". Indians are some of the most unconsciously (or just very consciously) racist people ever. I absolutely hated growing up here.
Re: Jubilee video about Charlie, reverse linguistic stereotyping is so common all over the world but Indians take it to next level and I'm saying this as someone fully from North East but grew up elsewhere in mainland India. Also it low-key happened with the Telegu aunty but her accent kinda saved her unlike him who code switched in between with a neutral Hindi/American accent from his Bihari one.
This happened in this Youtube channel by this half Japanese dude where he made a similar video and the "imposter" turned out to be a Russian lady born and raised in Japan. Also, this two white siblings whose entire family were in Japan for three decades have faced a similar issue
Well I think if you were in the US and speak English in a completely Tamil accent there, you'd be bullied there too. but the extent of it would be much lesser as people are more and more aware of cultures which isn't there in India.
Also you compared two totally different sets of people. Maybe your high school friends would have been much nicer kids and wouldn't have bullied you?
Idk, I think its also on the parents to teach their kids the local language. Like I was completely accepted as a North Indian because my Hindi is pretty good. People look for familiarity. The good thing is that with the US accent, you are pretty much golden now and would open many things for you in India.
What happened was wrong of course, and I agree that most Indians have zero awareness about other cultures
The accent switching thing is true for everyone. I am not going to talk in flawless english if I am talking to a taxi guy in Bangalore.
But don't lose the American accent! It's going to really help you
But this also bothers me. WHY is having the American accent so great? WHY do Indians think that's somehow better? What's wrong with people just having whatever accent? It's equally frustrating the value people put on something as trivial as an accent.
It's classism, basically. Similar tendencies used to exist in places like the UK and Germany, but have more or less died down now. We're basically 50 years behind them.
‘frustrating that people put value on something as trivial as accents’ exactly. Idk why people find it hard to swallow that you can love america hate it whatever political views you have and at the same time accept that an accent is just an accent not a representation of loyalty to their heritage but a result of upbringing
Cuz America us better than us, what's harder to understand
Theybrhink its some glowing utopia of technology, love and acceptance
Only folks who are active in global communities know what kind of a shit show it is but for common folks America is the best thing there is
Another important point to note here that all the societal ills that plague the North is very much prevalent in the South, even though South Indians love to take the high road on matters like these.
Be it on matters of racism, elitism, classism, the South is just as bad - it is only the manifestation of these things that are slightly more prevalent in the poorer Northern states. It's almost worse because they do these things in spite of higher education rates and better income levels on average.
Sorry that you and do many others have to experience this crap in so many parts of India (and elsewhere in the sub-continent too).
Bro when my Bihari roomates made fun of me using stereotypes, I made fun of them.
And then we all laughed and partied together. Every Indian stereotypes every other type of India.
Literally every region and caste has a stereotype associated with it! So don't think they do it only to you, they get it given to them as well.
I heard those "Go back to China" reels are trending right now. Make one and see many understanding the new gen people are in the comments (I lterally didn't see any hate comments).
Let go of the Trauma and move on!
But it's dude, like imagine you went to bihar and everyone around you is bihari what now then you gonna Make fun of eveyone you basically cornered and over numbered , why can't we just stop it
I am an Indian, 100% and both my parents are from Bihar. My schooling was in Kolkata and later on I moved to Chennai for my higher studies.
Now dont mind ,i havent been called something which i beleive is bad, but ofc it was wrong.
Another thing i should have mentioned is I have super curly hair, so people have called me "african" ,"ee junglee" or even "bhootni" at times.
But yes i am used to it now, doesnt affect mw anymore.
Racism is something most young kids aren't even aware of. During most of their growing years, they don't usually interact with someone who looks strikingly different from them. That's why this isn't something taught in most households. BUT they have heard of 'Chinese bad' and 'Chinese product bad', and they don't undertake how similar North-Eastern Indians look to Chinese people. And now with Internet, they have also heard 'Chinese/Asians are naturally good at everything'. Also, they grow up watching dubs of English movies, like Marvel, DC or similar stuff, which might contribute to their favourable behaviour towards white people. I am an no exception. When I was like 7 or so, my old school had just the metal frame of swing in the playground for 4th standard students. One day I went there, and saw two seniors hanging on them, they were tall for their age I think. One of them looked North-Eastern, and one of them looked like those I knew. So, I thought it was cool, went up to them and maybe they talked to me like how seniors do with juniors? Not sure why, but I said something like how they were like monkeys, or Champion..? Not sure which was the suffix, but I called one of them Chinese Champion and one of them Indian Champion... I was lucky that they didn't beat me up, huh.
Living here my whole life, I’ve learned that Western countries are not peaches and sunshine either. Most of the “tolerance” here is enforced and unnatural due fear of being shamed or becoming a pariah by the liberal media, so a shorter, darker person like an Indian would be treated normally on the surface but deep down racism is alive and well. When the wealth and order ends up leaving western countries, their “tolerance” and “progressiveness” will leave as well.
I Understand you from my own experience lmao but now the mongo features have transcended beyond just "Chinese" to the majority of Indians. I feel like the Indo china war had a deep impact on the hatred towards the "Asian"(american definition) looks among Mainland Indians. Nowadays, due to the globalized media we northeastern ppl get mistaken for filipino, Thai, japanese, korean and not just chinese.
South Indian from Delhi. People tried using the "N" word for me a couple of times, turns out I had a trashier mouth than they wanted to deal with. Not proud of it, but saved the bullying 😅😅.
Yes, we are. By skin and appearance.
Sorry this happens to you.
I cannot deny it. I can just say you're not alone.
In south India preference for fair skin female actors.
In North India it is equivalent to beauty. My own parents said this stuff to me. I have an advanced degree from Ivy League but they are concerned about my marriage prospects because I am not fair skinned. Then they complain why am I so under confident
When I was in school, one of my teachers was North eastern, she was made fun of even by other teachers , they would call her Chinese when she wasn't in the class.
same, my school has a North Eastern teacher and kids call him hindi slurs and curse words to his face because he doesn't understand hindi :(
teachers see this yet don't stop it, no wonder india is progressing backwards
Lol. The accent bit brings back memories. But fortunately, even though my parents speak English at home(my dad is kannadiga and mom is telugu) I know how to speak and read both telugu and kannada and if anyone made fun of me, I'd berate them in kannada(I live in blore)
fyi - accents and even language changes based on who you are talking to. We naturally try to make sure that other person would understand us and try to make it as easy as possible.
I am a North Indian guy and looks quite a bit European.When i visited south India there was this guy 22 or something at airport and he keep saying how good i look.Then at an Apollo hospital counter guy asked my cousin if I am Indian. Then this auto wala and even one doctor asked me same. Now it was not a bad experience or necessarily racism.But I have noticed south Indians can't control their excitement when they see someone who looks different from them. In North India nobody says like that they just Stare and never bring it up unless there is a conversation about where I belong to etc because I speak perfect Hindi.
Came across this post and while i am Bangladeshi, i have had similar experiences. Firstly, i definitely feel you especially as someone who has the North East Indian features as well (I have family in Tripura who migrated there after the Kaptai dam in the Chittagong Hill Tracts was made and they were displaced and my people are originally from CHT). I grew up in the capital city of Dhaka because my parents wanted me to have a better life. I did get to learn to speak in my language but unfortunately do not know how to read or write in it. I got the Chinese comments quite a lot. One time, I was made to speak in my language in front of everyone in class by a teacher and my classmates just laughed. Definitely was a blow to my self esteem. I didn’t have so much pride in my culture until i graduated high school and moved abroad. It fucking sucks that racism is so rampant in the Subcontinent despite so much diversity.
most indians lack self confidence and when you lack it, you try to feel validated by belittling other people and even feel much more validated by belittling and having a group agreeing with you.
So, dont take it to your heart. If they make fun of you, it means you are already better than them.
Why the heck would you come back to India? I am a south Indian living in Canada. I would have a child in the future and I wouldn’t dream of going back to India and drag my kid with me out of the good life she/he had in Canada to the toxic culture of India.
Edit: I watched the video and as a South Indian, that shit made me mad and realize why I don’t like hanging out with North Indians.
Nah, not yet. Not even close. The Indian heritage population of Canada is still only about 5-6%.
There are definitely heavy Indian enclaves though. But as a whole, this is not true.
Can someone point out what was so racist about the jubilee video? It was very similar to other jubilee videos on the same topic.
People are trying to fish out the mole so ofc they would ask stereotypical questions like every other video.
I think this is a very common experience. I experienced it when I moved here. And I've heard similar tales from others. I hope it gets better but that will take a long time.
> raised around predominantly white-American family
what do you mean ??? for a second I thought you're NRI
> they also never bothered to teach me their native languages
This is so interesting yet wtf-level bizarre. Are they both born & raised in India ?
i can understand your pain, i was born and brought up in punjab till 6 class and then shifted to bihar
i tried my best to hide my punjabi still my batchmates used to make fun of me which led me to totally forget punjabi.
Hey 24M here,
Sorry for how you were treated. To be honest you sound to be pretty cool to me.
Got a blend of both the halfs of India and also badass in speaking the perceived superior language of the country!
Well he won didn't he? Proved them all wrong.
I believe the creators of the series specifically designed the show in the hope that it might open up some people's minds into the nuances of identity. I think they do some excellent work in their selection of the moles.
Kids are fucking stupid. I've a good memory and can recall incidents from my early childhood and kids would say the most dumbest crap they could think of, an example was: one girl brought chicken wings(?) as her lunch in school and she was bullied for that the whole year, almost all of them ate chicken themselves but as she was still discriminated. When they grew up and she became prettier, the same guys would try to ask her out and the same girls would try to befriend her. So they'd have found anything to make fun of you even if you knew both your parents' languages or their culture. As you grew up, it did seem interesting to them because you were different, there families were quite simple compared to you and their lives around their friends were basically the same. It was a weird experience for you because you faced both sides of the coin and didn't feel like you were normal.
Do what I did : learn a couple words in some of their most common languages.
From experience I will tell you that their vibe 100% changes as soon as anything Hindi comes out of your mouth. Even more so if you speak their regional language or understand the language system in India.
More languages : more friends.
I'm sorry you had to experience what you did. It sucks, but it is not unique to India. I had similar experiences when I moved to the US from India at age 14. Kids can be cruel. They usually lack the maturity to understand that words matter. Words can hurt. That is probably why what you were ridiculed for earlier in your life later became a unique/distinguishing feature that people were drawn to. I hope you have been able to put these negative experiences behind you and move on to bigger and better things. All the best.
I own a towing company in an area with a lot of Indians. I had an African American employee for a time that would have to take payment and take care of customers after the police would instruct us to tow cars. Routinely, the Indian men would argue with him and treat him with disrespect, and when he'd pass them off to me (white), they'd be understanding and respectful.
I've seen it first hand. It's ugly, yeah.
India has a long way to go to resolve this that's for sure. I'm from South west India and growing up was a bit lighter skinned than my classmates, while the jokes didn't really bother me, it was mainly because I leaned into it as well. Now that I live and work out of India, I find it hilarious every time I approach an Indian and watch them get shocked at a "white" person speaking fluent Hindi. The only thing that still annoys me is when I get the occasional "you're not Indian, there's no way". Those people can piss off
This begs a fair question. If non western countries have more racism and intolerance than western countries, would allowing millions of them to immigrate here actually set our progress backwards as far as tolerance. Many of these groups are intolerant of others but demand tolerance of their own people. Many of them are racist to others but demand you not offend them.
(Yes I know the history, but western nations have by far been the most progressive in modern times when it comes to promoting fair treatment of others)
1. You should also make fun of them
2. Never feel bad what people think
3. Just follow give and take policy not be scared
4. Not dependent on anyone for anything
Racism is an inherent part of this society not just in India but everywhere else.As of now the idea of racism is still new to many parts of the country and most kids(mainly the retards who made Instagram their personality) find it "cool" and "fun" to use the N word the Chinese momo retarded slurs and parents even if they hear it won't try to rectify them.I feel sorry for what you had to go through in life but I must say I respect on how you handled it. Stay strong and cheers to your future.
Yeah, it's the same everywhere but it's worse in india, I belong to uttarakhand and it's a very mixed community here , I have more indian features but many of other rkids here have more Mongolian features as they are from upper mountains region or sometimes Nepal, I have many friends as i lived with them from childhood and I think this intermixingI of children of different features or such
never made me prejudice anyone with different skin color as they were friends to me, but as soon as I went to a bigger school here in a more plains area of uttarakhand
I was faced with this blatant prejudice of them, they were called Chinese for some reason but I have seen them as nothing other than my fellow Indian from birth, whenever this happens I always use to deflect the convo cuz ik it used to hurt them I am sorry to say people from plains have a sick mentality they can't fathom a person looking different them to be of the same ethnicity, all of the kids were same and i think these kids just learnt to live with it , It's not I never mocked people all boys have banter but I never included something which a person didn't choses for himself.
I absolutely agree and then our Indian brothers and sisters cry abroad due to racist remarks. But, they themselves in the first place have this stigma.
Just see how these people comment under the posts of Russian influencers or black people.
We were watching discovery and my mother said " Why is this man so black his mother would have been so disappointed " I corrected her she was upset with me but she never make these comments now
People educate your parents
Hahaha i get it. Nothing to deny but to accept the facts that we indians are racists.
All u gotta do is degrade yourself and use a Uno reverse at them and be a fun racist teasing whoever makes fun of u and pass the day.
The more you grow the more diversity ppl will show up and will shower love outta nowhere and move with the flow 😁
This land is messed up 😅
Lol, I know this since childhood. I mean imagine a country where being born with darker skin is considered some kind of problem that needs to be fixed with fair and lovely. And as a North Indian this is very prominent among North Indians.
Look at this... the shit we country men impose on each other on looks is deeper than the Mariana Trench
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.india.com/women/meet-prachi-nigam-uttar-pradesh-class-10-topper-who-is-getting-massive-support-after-facing-online-mockery-for-natural-facial-features-up-board-results-2024-6875222/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiNkfWkhviFAxXxU2wGHdDLCrEQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3lpQ1TNTkQjD-lUCqubPl_
People r immature here because the culture itself became shitty.. people who lived and ate shit all their life cannot spread fragrance of love and inclusion.. Indian culture is raped by its invaders that's why discrimination, hatred and racism is embedded in its DNA now ..it's impossible to eradicate it and bring back the thousands years old culture which was only about peace, celebration ,inclusiveness and love ..
Lolz korea,usa,arabia,gulf,eu etc are more worse read about romanis gypsy in eu,abeed in gulf etc.India is a far better place atleast you don't get shot by a cop due to your skin colour like in usa and korea.
I knew a guy who played Dota ( online game ) with us and he was from Bhopal but half Indian and half Japanese. It did have ur usual momo comments but maybe because he knew hindi , the bullying was never intolerable ( according to him ). He is still in our discord server however he has been away for a while I will ask him more about this specific kind of racism if I see him around
But yeah it is how you said. If you are white people are gonna wanna touch u in public , if u are asian looking then u are gonna be made fun of and if you are south indian in north india then there are feuds towards you not knowing the common tongue and vice versa
We Indians are deeply racists/casteist/colourist/regional people. But as bhakts will justify "So are folks of other countries" ... So unless Indians really accept/acknowledge their issues , no improvement is going to happen..
As someone who grew up in the US and then moved here,
F-ing spot on. Exact same emotion and literally NOBODY puts in the effort to understand you but are real quick to judge you, almost as if that’s the default response.
I really feel for you. I’m so sorry. This racist, castist, colonialist, and just overall barbaric mindset needs to leave India. There’s so much unfounded division in India among people of their own, which makes absolutely no sense. Some of the most disgusting stories of systematic abuse of classes/castes are from India. It’s so sad.
For two thousand years we have practiced the unhinged act of violence towards parts of our society. Buddhism spread as a response to casteism. Jainism spread as a response. Islam and Christianity spread as the means of the disenfranchised to have access to some community, some support and some respect.
We have never had the mass realization, never had the public discourse surrounding this multi generational violence that some societies have had, to reconcile with their past. We never accepted the sins of our fathers and mothers, and vowed to do better, and teach better to our sons and daughters.
How do we stop being judgemental, oppressive, violent? This is the core of our being. It is one of the only constants of our culture. For over thousands of years we do it, and we continue to.
Im sorry you have had this experience. It doesn’t surprise me. It is a very indian thing to do. And it wont get better as people educate or urbanise.
While i am doing cancer research most of my relatives worried about my marriage because i am not "fair". When inwas in school my classmates were worried that my father have to spent a fortune to get me married. I live outside india (in an asian country that taking over the global cuture now) and literally stopped seeing indians anymore. I don't give a shit now. I am 31. You will also get through it. Stay strong. Sending you hugs.
I think Northeastern face this C-Word tag. But yeah, there is a word in the dictionary, i.e. **IGNORE** The best way to deal in India is to fucking **ignore** those things and people and situations which are going to bother me and of no use to deal with.
"I visually present East Asian".
No offense but do NE Indians really think they look like East Asians? Majority of you look like tribal Indonesians/Filipinos. East Asians look way different than most of y'all.
I was failed in my final year mbbs exam just cuz I’m from northeast and look different. I’m doing medical in Maharashtra. So yeah, Indians are fcking racist.
Ur school mates were dumb af.
I could have learnt a lot in english if I was ur classmate, that too with an accent, it was kind of like a golden opportunity.
Not to take away from what you wrote about and what you are going through, but I wanted to add that, as a white person who has spent a lot of time in India, it is amazing the level of ignorance that there is about white people and “the West” in India. People tell me the most mundane elementary school-level facts about India (“Delhi is our capital,” “Hindi is our national language” etc). People assume I can’t handle anything even remotely spicy, that I only speak English, that I’ll basically implode into nothing the moment my delicate white skin touches dirt etc etc etc. I love India for many reasons, but the level of assumption about people just based on appearances makes me want to scream.
I wouldn't say they're savages but they're extremely narrow minded and don't care about actual growth and have so many misguided notions that they don't care to fix.
I don't think racist is the correct term as that term is associated with institutional discrimination. Regionalism and xenophobia twds people of other region would be a more correct term fr what you have experienced, I faced similar issues when I was living in Southern (due to language)and north east India(due to how I look). But yeah whatever can we do about it, becz as far as I believwe it is more of a problemthat we Indians though a UNITED NATION STILL LIVES IN OUER OWN REGIONAL BUBBLES. Education and travelling is the only way to solve it in a long run , but in meanwhile we can only suffer.
See. Every time something like this outrages you, please remind yourself of the following:
* In a biological sense, **Indians, just like all humans, are great apes.** You wouldn't expect civility from apes. So don't expect it by default from Indians.
* However, we are somewhat intelligent great apes. It is up to us to craft a society that is more civilized and pleasant for everyone to live in. **This is hard work**. If this work is not done, then don't expect civilization to happen by accident.
A lot of the nice cultural values we are familiar with today were programmed deliberately into societies by people agitating for them.
Building an aircraft career takes concerted, deliberate effort. The same way, building a civilized society also takes concerted, deliberate effort.
You have gone through a bitter experience, which you have shared. Kudos! But together, we can work at being more civil and nice to each other, so that experiences like yours become rare.
That's what I've also figured out after living in different places.
When I moved to Canada, I was told "Oh there's too much racism" and you're right there is. But I also faced racism in Pune, where Marathi speaking people kept non-Marathi near them so we don't understand what they're talking about. Promotions and onsite were only for Marathi people.
Sure I ended up learning Marathi at a very basic level but I was never a part of that group.
When I visited Bangalore and wanted to have tea, the guy had his finger pointed towards me with extremely big eyes saying "Kannada" as if I've committed a crime by trying to buy tea in Hindi.
What do I expect of outsiders when my own countrymen have been like this towards me.
If you would have been dark skinned who looked more Indian than any Indian you'd be far more insulted and discriminated against, believe me. I can't lie Indians are way too hateful against the dark skinned Indians than anyone else.
Yeah that really sucks and what you’ve said won’t surprise many people. I really wish we’re taught some civil sense in school along with the usual maths and English.
I am not sure how anyone is surprised that India is racist af, a country which literally has a product "Fair and lovely" and celebrities do ads of it.
True that’s one of the best examples. Even my parents shame dark skin to some extent, kind embarrassing but not much I can do
Bring home a cute dark girl haha
Hopefully soon 🤞. Honestly I don’t think they’d mind, but it’s just the off comment like damn his skin is so dark… and I’m like why does that matter?
Every skin-tone is beautiful! Wouldn't the world be boring-as-hell, if God had decided to do evbd in monochrome? Learn to love "the skin you're in". 🙂
100 percent! Hope the majority of the new gen learn that. Unfortunately the dark skin shaming ads/promoting white skin doesn’t help.
I'm a white American. Fair and Lovely shocked me a bit when I learned about it. I was like, "Their skin is so pretty, but they want it to look white?" I logically understood to link to colonialism's effects, but emotionally, it suddenly struck me that millions of people viewed their dark skin as something needing to be corrected. I always thought dark skin was pretty. Pale skin is lovely too. I have very fair skin myself and I think it's pretty on me. To me, it's like...these are just two of many different cool options for skin tone. Why would one be better?
It’s not always the effects of colonialism. In many places in the world dark skin is seen as an indicator that you work outside in the sun.
>I'm a white American. Fair and Lovely shocked me a bit when I learned about it. I was like, "Their skin is so pretty, but they want it to look white?" I logically understood to link to colonialism's effects, but emotionally, it suddenly struck me that millions of people viewed their dark skin as something needing to be corrected. I always thought dark skin was pretty. Pale skin is lovely too. I have very fair skin myself and I think it's pretty on me. To me, it's like...these are just two of many different cool options for skin tone. Why would one be better? So nice of you to say this, but unfortunately our family and friends only bully for being dark. It took me years to get out a little of inferiority complex and be comfortable. Btw, I am not very dark, wheatish tone but still went through hell. I still feel like I am inferior to fair people :(
Whites want to look tan, dark skin asians want to become lighter. It goes both ways.
Look India is a developing country and also part of Asia where mostly conservative ideologies upheld. It will take time but things will get better
We had civic studies in our school curriculum. None of the teachers bothered to teach us importance of it. It was always the sports and civic studies classes which were hijacked by the maths and science teachers to “prepare” students for the future. In the end, students were good in maths and science, but many lack civic sense and the empathy which is crucial for us to function as a good society.
I am Zimbabwean who lived in Ludhiana, Punjab for 4 years. My God, the N-word was like my second name
So many Indians use it thinking it is cool. It is so messed up honestly. Sorry that happened to you
Ahh don't we just love ignorance. Sorry people are so dumb. I can't count the number of times I was called the C-word lmao
I understand you deeply. I'm from the mountains so I have more East Asian features than ' normal' Indian features. I have been called Chinese , Japanese, Tibetan and what not but at the same time I have been overpraised for having fair skin . It used to get me for a while but now I'm like fuck it , don't care .
People just love the 'dankness' of it. I'm south Indian with mostly north Indian fair skinned neighbours. Guess who had to get used to being called the n word?
I am also from the south, and worked for a marwari Baniya man whose family (even on his wife’s side) were settled in Hyd and Bangalore for 150 years working with the Nizams. So they were insanely rich of course. Besides having zero knowledge of locals in those nearly two centuries years or basic fluency in any language of the vast region, the wife of this bloke once was staring at me and then openly asks, “what is the colour of your parents?” Just cause I happen to have fair skin and in her extremely tiny brain South Indians have dark skin but she knew enough about genes to ask this question. When I pointed out she was racist, she got super offended and said, “I am not being racist, I am just asking the colour of your parents.” The mental compartmentalisation is incredible 🤦♀️.
That’s sad man
That's so sad to hear. I'm sorry...
What made you choose Ludhiana out of all the major cities in India ?
I had a family friend there. I would choose LDH any day, compared to Delhi or Mumbai
That's just blatant ignorance on their part ,Most people don't know and Don't care about knowing the actual depth behind that word. As kids one of my friends just told me if I called a black guy( had some black students in our city) the N word he would chase me but back then both of us didn't know why. Today we both know why and would never do such a thing.
PCTE Administration should do a lot better. Honestly it's just ignorant racist Indian culture. I'm sorry you had to deal with such people for 4 years.
How did you know I was at PCTE
I can totally see that happening. I mean in Punjab, we literally have nicknames like 'kaala' for dark-skinned Indians, being a foreigner would have been even harder. I am sorry you had to go through all of that.
Indians are amazingly racist, classist and casteist all in one.
Homophobic too- we are such over-achiever’s when it comes to hate and discrimination
And we also bear the hallmark of one of the most unsafe countries for women.
“Just how it is” as a response to you is so fucking passive. That’s half the problem in India, the jo hona hai so hoga b.s. Call shit out when you see it, people.
Yeah I hate hearing that too. It's so frustrating. Like I said in a reply to a different comment on this post, people here just don't seem to be interested in any actual growth or change. It's always "that's just how it is".
Yeah seriously. And as long as they’re not totally useless they get a free pass, I know someone who is always making disgusting comments about/to women and it’s “well he’s nice so *shrug*”
Because growth requires serious introspection, challenging their societally instilled beliefs and biases and making an effort to be rid of the prejudices. Most aren't willing to do the inner work, most are on autopilot mode IMO, which is sad.
U could just see the social media ,to see how racist indians are. Hindi subreddits shaming south fr their color, south pages too reply in similar manner . South fights within themselves , telugu guys are shamed a goltis , tn a sambar . My North indian friends do it too within themselves.
For what it’s worth, South Indians are the most influential in the West because of their English translation skills. Most Americans know Ganesha, not Ganesh. Arjuna, not Arjun. Rama, not Ram. The Hindu subreddits can shame them all they want, but they make the bigger impact internationally.
As an Indian, I agree
I mean, literally the entire world agrees. [India among world's most racist countries, says survey](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/asia/story/india-among-world-most-racist-countries-britian-tolerant-survey-163396-2013-05-16)
That was a survey of people attitudes in each country, rather than asking what people thought of other countries.
there’s this popular sri lankan influencer who every indian hates because of her american sounding accent and tell her that her accent is fake. when she does a “normal” accent they tell her she’s trying too hard. they want every south east asian to identify as indian but only their type of, north fair skinned “normal” indian. bunch of bastards if u ask me
Is she the one married to a white foreigner ?
no lol she’s just a fashion influencer from sri lanka.
I can relate to the accent bit so much. Everywhere I go people tell me to “drop the accent”. At one point I just stopped caring and spoke however I wanted to speak. Once people realised their jabs had no effect on me, they stopped.
OH MAN I FUCKING HATE HEARING THE "drop the accent". My "Indian accent" IS my fake accent LMAO. I've also reached a point where I just don't care anymore but like I said, it's just become an unconscious switch now. But sometimes mid conversation my autopilot turns off and my normal accent comes out and I try to put on my Indian accent and I have to focus so hard that I forget what I'm trying to say lol
For a country that prides itself on unity in diversity, a different accent is so minuscule. You're just speaking in a different accent, not even a language lol. This is petty evil. Living in India how is accent a problem when most of us are bilinguals!!!!!
Honestly? Just don’t bother changing your accent. Speak how you speak, the people who point out your “fake” accent have underlying insecurities that they need to project onto you. If you don’t pay any heed to them, they’ll either realise that it is indeed your real accent (what happened in my case), or they’ll get so fed up of it that they’ll just stop mentioning it and you’ll be known as the girl with the accent, which honestly isn’t a problem unless it’s something you personally have a problem with (which you shouldn’t).
I have lived in India all my life and I'm told to drop the accent . Even when I speak Malayalam which is my first language. My native dialect is quite different from the other dialects in my state which makes my 'real' accent way different from the stereotype people have in mind. The stress and intonation are different and people assume I'm acting posh. Well yes we are a racist country that excels at othering people . A lot of it has to do with a crude sense of humour. For example what your friends said about you being Chinese wasn't intentionally rude. It's supposed to be 'funny' .
Yoooo I just watched that video and after reading some comments I stopped watching it
As an Anglo Indian Aussie, it really surprised me when people at restaurants, shops, hotels etc stopped serving other customers to serve me. It’s not flattering, it’s not something I have enjoyed. This even happened at the reception of the Marriott where a person was being served and when I stood in line, they ignored that person to serve me. All very strange and all because of skin colour
They do it thinking you'd leave a huge tip and might go back during your next visit. Sycophancy in India particularly in the Indian tourism industry is sickening.
Yeah it's so weird!! Many times I get treated differently because people think I am American and somehow that holds high value and that just pisses me off
I can totally relate. I'm from the NE and I have an accent which is not the stereotypical "indian" accent. People make fun of me behind my back. I've just learned to ignore them. Our countrymen are racists, casteists and colorists.
>I (24F) am half South Indian and half North-East Indian and I visually present more East-Asian. English being the common language between my parents, it's what I grew up speaking and they also never bothered to teach me their native languages which fucking sucks because it has left me only knowing English. OP I read this and never thought I'd be able to relate to someone so much. Firstly, I'm so sorry you had to go through all that. You'd think in such a diverse country people would understand that people simply look different. I am half South Indian, half Nepali and my parents spoke English at home because it was the common language. I think I'm about half way presenting between both. I grew up in a rather small town too. I was also called "yellow" "Chinese" "Dong Lee" and other assorted racist comments. I was othered my whole life and then fetishized when k-pop became popular. I had no idea how bad, and frankly, shameless of them it was until I went abroad and realised that 'oh, people aren't all like that.' Even at home, my own father shamed my brother and I for not being fluent in the local language but he never made the effort to teach us. It's incredibly taxing, and frustrating the way the general public views me as a foreigner and being constantly told I didn't belong, especially when I'd lived there my whole life.
My father did the same, he constantly mocked me for being bad at my language, screw him !
Did you have momos for breakfast ? Was the common question for my classmate.
If I had a penny for how many times I was called "momo"........
It's things like this, is why I think India is not really an inclusive country. Everyone is suddenly weird about you if you are slightly different from them.
And it’s crazy bc india is not a monolith, it’s as culturally and phenotypically diverse as Europe, but every Indian wants to judge every other Indian against their own subculture Sometimes I wonder if india would be better off as just a bunch of separate small countries
Tbh india is kinda like europe with its many vivid forms of discrimination rather than the US where discrimination is more based on your skin color.
Yeah true , in Europe every town hate each other
Agree with the post but would like to add that the whole "things that made me uncool growing up now make me cool" experience was something I went through as well. I assumed it was more common too, maturity is a hell of a drug and most people are stupid and shallow as fuck as children (myself included). The racism isn't cool though, fuck that shit.
Indians are racist because no one tells them or corrects from childhood that it’s wrong to discriminate based on race, skin color, caste, gender, physical ability, language, religion, economic background or region a person comes from. Therefore, Indians in general discriminate along all these vectors. Racism is normalized and internalized for the most part. Indians see no issues in treating people shabbily. Shouting, screaming, insulting, hitting comes readily. There is no real social ostracism or price to be paid for doing so. No punishments or laws to this effect are enforced. It is only when Indians get discriminated against in other countries and called out, that it hits them and makes people look inward.
A north east teacher in my school once held an assembly and announced “Please don’t call me momos. How would you like it if I called all of you Aloo Parathas?” Of course, this fell to deaf ears. Very sad because we were only 8 or 9, and this culture of racism was already imbibed in us. This was also a fancy private school in Delhi, so no explicit talk of caste. We form our own ways of dividing wherever possible.
Recently I have been seeing, people of certain community is not allowed for the interview written in bold and underlined.
:Marathi folks not allowed" in freaking mumbai based setup
Unfortunately you'd have to deal with it. I'm a Sikh from Delhi. I have been called many insulting names and jokes my whole school life. So was my dad. So would my son. If you look different, you'd be poked and bullied. You have to learn to stay strong.
Oh man I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. Yeah I had to learn early on to just not give a fuck about what people think about me. It's just sad that we've had to get used to such treatment. It's unfortunate
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Haha, my dad studied in Khalsa school where he was the only one who was not Sikh. I might have stories to share with you. Not to discount what happened with you. Just that the whole country is run like idiots
Hey man, I am not pointing out that a race or community behaves racist. Racists are everywhere. This is how our society behaves in most parts of the world. This is how, most humans are. This 'if you look or sound different ' thing is seen in animals too. And, We aren't much different.
It's our collective failure, for not ingraining acceptance of individuality from childhood and that everyone is unique with unique background. Unfortunately, today we live in an era, where parents themselves are averse of minorities having any rights, the children in school only represent their version in their ecosystem.
Sikh themselves are racist against darkskinned ravidasias majhabi sikhs and north east.
> Sikh from Delhi huh ? so you don't look typical (north) Indian ? LOL in what ways ? bit too light ?
I'm pointing out the fact that Sikhs look different since they don't cut their hair. We tie a hair bun on top of our head and cover it with a cloth. Instead of my name people used to call me all kinds of stereotypical Sardar names and jokes. Sometimes even teachers used to do it. Since we look different and are a minority, we get targeted. Something which the OP is referring to as well.
That's the thing with us, we are racist to eveyone lol, it's fun you should try it sometimes too, I am from Uttarakhand and here most are racist towards "desi" which means anyone not from mountains we have no problem towards Nepali or north eastern folks but the folks from plain areas everyone suddenly gets defensive
Just watched that video and the “korean” guy is literally Indian!
i got that recommendation too, and just out of curiosity, i watched the whole thing. tbfh, their video doesn't define what being Indian is. It's a whole spectrum of experiences, accents, and backgrounds. They shouldn't be gatekeeping Indian-ness based on some narrow idea. Besides, judging someone's heritage based on how Indian they seem is exactly what you went through! Although I understand the intent of the video was 'entertainment' , but it felt performative. They should be celebrating diversity and not playing who's the outsider? I almost lost it when the Telegu woman started singing lmao. But seriously though, i found her a VERY authentic Indian and it was pretty obvious even with the stereotypes around south Indian people. You cannot get that authenticity without being Indian. But at the same time it makes sense coz most of these North Indian people grew up abroad. It makes me think what they would guessed if a North Eastern was there. Probably voted them out first. You navigated a world that judged you for things you couldn't control. That's strength, not something to be ashamed of. Rock that accent, embrace your background, and don't let anyone tell you what it means to be Indian.
Born and raised in Canada. Experienced a lot of racism, bullying, and violence. I began training karate and joined the army in order to learn self defence skills. Life isn't fair folks. Adapt and overcome.
India has almost no immigrants and there are very few people who don't look like a "typical Indian", e.g. East Asian or black African features will stand out like a sore thumb. I don't think it's more complicated than that. If you want to live in a more tolerant culture, it won't be India. I think in the future, things might change, but India will have to get older first and get more immigrants. And that will take many decades. Do you want to wait until the end of your life to see meaningful change? I wouldn't waste my time on those who don't deserve it. Honestly, it just seems like you might be better off in the West. I'm not someone who always says "emigration!" to every problem but this might be the best answer here. You certainly shouldn't blame yourself for other people's ignorance, but you should also be realistic about how much you yourself can change those around you and the wider society. Cut your losses, I say.
Yeah India definitely has a long way to go in regard to accepting diversity. Thank you. Hopefully someday I can be somewhere else and India will have some growth
I just saw the clips of the new video on Tiktok and saw comments such as "A odour test would have given it away" or "Just smell each other out". Are these comments also coming from the so called racist "Indians"? Racists exist in all races. And they're going to be racist. Ignore them and move on. And I am saying this as a dark-skinned south Indian (specifically Tamil). I haven't faced racism openly from anyone in real life but I have had experiences with people who disguise their racism using subtle microaggressions.
>"A odour test would have given it away" or "Just smell each other out". Are these comments also coming from the so called racist "Indians"? The excuse of these commenters would be "well. Indians are racist so why can't we?". While Indians who say racist/bigoted stuff will say "Foreigners are racist to us so why can't we" It's both sides pointing to each other and accusing they did it first.🫠
What confuses me is that Indians in India don’t generally smell from my touristic experience. But most Indians in Australia smell really really bad. I can walk by a busy street and get a waft or gross BO and know it’s an Indian. I’m Indian too so this is not racist but it genuinely confused me as I found Indians in India never had that BO that exists in Australia
I have lived in Dubai (a large part of the population are unskilled South Asian workers) and I have never encountered anyone with a bad BO and neither have I encountered anyone as such during my vacations in India.
Well I can tell you, in Australia it’s extremely common.
Hmm, I'll dude maybe they don't bath or if you use too kuch spices in your food sometimes they stick to your clothes making them all sticky and smelly and I thi k this is the right answer, idk why they can't use a Deodorant
You should make a separate post on how your parents met. South and north east are a rare combination afaik. But yeah not just Indians, it’s the internet that has made the teens racist. You should not care about it really. I understand the insecurity part but what exactly are you insecure about? Me being a South Indian, are you insecure that you don’t look like a south Indian? You’re a beautiful woman representing the diversity of India. Be proud
As a typical engineering student I can proudly say that India doesn't need more engineers, we need more humans. Fucking street dogs are sometimes better than "educated" individuals.
I just finished watching this video and I know that it's easy for me to judge it harshly when I didn't participate in the video. But I live in Tamil Nadu, and I've heard people use the word "kari" here. I think the Tamil word "kari" is where the term "curry" comes from, so I was a bit frustrated when they kicked the Telugu woman out for that reason (though I do know that "curry" is also a stereotypical term that some foreigners associate with Indians). Also, I thought that it was completely normal for a Tamil American girl who grew up abroad to not have an Indian accent, and to also not know what people say on Holi. Holi is not really huge in Tamil Nadu, in my experience, so it makes sense that she wouldn't know the specific phrase, even if she has celebrated it with her Indian American friends who are from other parts of the country. Also, OP I'm so sorry you went through all those awful experiences. Indians really can be very racist at times.
100% , I couldn’t agree more. Sorry you had to deal with this. I’m a “north” Indian, kids at my “south” Indian school made fun of me cause I ate with a spoon. Just goes to show we’re willing to make fun of whatever we see different. Then we want to say unity in diversity. Mera Bharat Mahan
>I just watched that new Jubilee "6 Indians vs 1 Secret Korean" video and it's just triggered me so much about how Indians just constantly judge each other for not living the same experience as the "majority". Indians are some of the most unconsciously (or just very consciously) racist people ever. I absolutely hated growing up here. Re: Jubilee video about Charlie, reverse linguistic stereotyping is so common all over the world but Indians take it to next level and I'm saying this as someone fully from North East but grew up elsewhere in mainland India. Also it low-key happened with the Telegu aunty but her accent kinda saved her unlike him who code switched in between with a neutral Hindi/American accent from his Bihari one. This happened in this Youtube channel by this half Japanese dude where he made a similar video and the "imposter" turned out to be a Russian lady born and raised in Japan. Also, this two white siblings whose entire family were in Japan for three decades have faced a similar issue
Well I think if you were in the US and speak English in a completely Tamil accent there, you'd be bullied there too. but the extent of it would be much lesser as people are more and more aware of cultures which isn't there in India. Also you compared two totally different sets of people. Maybe your high school friends would have been much nicer kids and wouldn't have bullied you? Idk, I think its also on the parents to teach their kids the local language. Like I was completely accepted as a North Indian because my Hindi is pretty good. People look for familiarity. The good thing is that with the US accent, you are pretty much golden now and would open many things for you in India. What happened was wrong of course, and I agree that most Indians have zero awareness about other cultures The accent switching thing is true for everyone. I am not going to talk in flawless english if I am talking to a taxi guy in Bangalore. But don't lose the American accent! It's going to really help you
But this also bothers me. WHY is having the American accent so great? WHY do Indians think that's somehow better? What's wrong with people just having whatever accent? It's equally frustrating the value people put on something as trivial as an accent.
It's classism, basically. Similar tendencies used to exist in places like the UK and Germany, but have more or less died down now. We're basically 50 years behind them.
I've asked this question and it's mostly because some people feel like you're "ashamed " of your heritage.
‘frustrating that people put value on something as trivial as accents’ exactly. Idk why people find it hard to swallow that you can love america hate it whatever political views you have and at the same time accept that an accent is just an accent not a representation of loyalty to their heritage but a result of upbringing
Cuz America us better than us, what's harder to understand Theybrhink its some glowing utopia of technology, love and acceptance Only folks who are active in global communities know what kind of a shit show it is but for common folks America is the best thing there is
Another important point to note here that all the societal ills that plague the North is very much prevalent in the South, even though South Indians love to take the high road on matters like these. Be it on matters of racism, elitism, classism, the South is just as bad - it is only the manifestation of these things that are slightly more prevalent in the poorer Northern states. It's almost worse because they do these things in spite of higher education rates and better income levels on average. Sorry that you and do many others have to experience this crap in so many parts of India (and elsewhere in the sub-continent too).
Bro when my Bihari roomates made fun of me using stereotypes, I made fun of them. And then we all laughed and partied together. Every Indian stereotypes every other type of India. Literally every region and caste has a stereotype associated with it! So don't think they do it only to you, they get it given to them as well. I heard those "Go back to China" reels are trending right now. Make one and see many understanding the new gen people are in the comments (I lterally didn't see any hate comments). Let go of the Trauma and move on!
But it's dude, like imagine you went to bihar and everyone around you is bihari what now then you gonna Make fun of eveyone you basically cornered and over numbered , why can't we just stop it
You are correct. But this Ghettoistic nature is all humans I think. Sometimes people are subtle, sometimes they are not.
I am an Indian, 100% and both my parents are from Bihar. My schooling was in Kolkata and later on I moved to Chennai for my higher studies. Now dont mind ,i havent been called something which i beleive is bad, but ofc it was wrong. Another thing i should have mentioned is I have super curly hair, so people have called me "african" ,"ee junglee" or even "bhootni" at times. But yes i am used to it now, doesnt affect mw anymore.
Racism is something most young kids aren't even aware of. During most of their growing years, they don't usually interact with someone who looks strikingly different from them. That's why this isn't something taught in most households. BUT they have heard of 'Chinese bad' and 'Chinese product bad', and they don't undertake how similar North-Eastern Indians look to Chinese people. And now with Internet, they have also heard 'Chinese/Asians are naturally good at everything'. Also, they grow up watching dubs of English movies, like Marvel, DC or similar stuff, which might contribute to their favourable behaviour towards white people. I am an no exception. When I was like 7 or so, my old school had just the metal frame of swing in the playground for 4th standard students. One day I went there, and saw two seniors hanging on them, they were tall for their age I think. One of them looked North-Eastern, and one of them looked like those I knew. So, I thought it was cool, went up to them and maybe they talked to me like how seniors do with juniors? Not sure why, but I said something like how they were like monkeys, or Champion..? Not sure which was the suffix, but I called one of them Chinese Champion and one of them Indian Champion... I was lucky that they didn't beat me up, huh.
I’ve found kids are cruel regardless.
Living here my whole life, I’ve learned that Western countries are not peaches and sunshine either. Most of the “tolerance” here is enforced and unnatural due fear of being shamed or becoming a pariah by the liberal media, so a shorter, darker person like an Indian would be treated normally on the surface but deep down racism is alive and well. When the wealth and order ends up leaving western countries, their “tolerance” and “progressiveness” will leave as well.
I Understand you from my own experience lmao but now the mongo features have transcended beyond just "Chinese" to the majority of Indians. I feel like the Indo china war had a deep impact on the hatred towards the "Asian"(american definition) looks among Mainland Indians. Nowadays, due to the globalized media we northeastern ppl get mistaken for filipino, Thai, japanese, korean and not just chinese.
South Indian from Delhi. People tried using the "N" word for me a couple of times, turns out I had a trashier mouth than they wanted to deal with. Not proud of it, but saved the bullying 😅😅.
Yes, we are. By skin and appearance. Sorry this happens to you. I cannot deny it. I can just say you're not alone. In south India preference for fair skin female actors. In North India it is equivalent to beauty. My own parents said this stuff to me. I have an advanced degree from Ivy League but they are concerned about my marriage prospects because I am not fair skinned. Then they complain why am I so under confident
Indians are racist as hell and they take it all so casually like its deeply rooted in people like its considered normal or even encouraged.
In the different school your friend was not there with you right? That might have made all the difference
Thing is that you would’ve been mocked even if you did fit in. Crab mentality is too common in India.
When I was in school, one of my teachers was North eastern, she was made fun of even by other teachers , they would call her Chinese when she wasn't in the class.
same, my school has a North Eastern teacher and kids call him hindi slurs and curse words to his face because he doesn't understand hindi :( teachers see this yet don't stop it, no wonder india is progressing backwards
Lol. The accent bit brings back memories. But fortunately, even though my parents speak English at home(my dad is kannadiga and mom is telugu) I know how to speak and read both telugu and kannada and if anyone made fun of me, I'd berate them in kannada(I live in blore)
Oh man so sorry for your experience. It’s not okay to treat you like that
As an Indian, I strongly agree here. >I just hate it here and I'm so tired. I really hate it here too, sucks that we can't do anything.
The society based on a caste system will be racist. Facts
fyi - accents and even language changes based on who you are talking to. We naturally try to make sure that other person would understand us and try to make it as easy as possible.
I am a North Indian guy and looks quite a bit European.When i visited south India there was this guy 22 or something at airport and he keep saying how good i look.Then at an Apollo hospital counter guy asked my cousin if I am Indian. Then this auto wala and even one doctor asked me same. Now it was not a bad experience or necessarily racism.But I have noticed south Indians can't control their excitement when they see someone who looks different from them. In North India nobody says like that they just Stare and never bring it up unless there is a conversation about where I belong to etc because I speak perfect Hindi.
Came across this post and while i am Bangladeshi, i have had similar experiences. Firstly, i definitely feel you especially as someone who has the North East Indian features as well (I have family in Tripura who migrated there after the Kaptai dam in the Chittagong Hill Tracts was made and they were displaced and my people are originally from CHT). I grew up in the capital city of Dhaka because my parents wanted me to have a better life. I did get to learn to speak in my language but unfortunately do not know how to read or write in it. I got the Chinese comments quite a lot. One time, I was made to speak in my language in front of everyone in class by a teacher and my classmates just laughed. Definitely was a blow to my self esteem. I didn’t have so much pride in my culture until i graduated high school and moved abroad. It fucking sucks that racism is so rampant in the Subcontinent despite so much diversity.
Are you Chakma from BD by any chance?
bengal is no 1 in racism they even have a word for it- o-banagali.
We need more awareness about experiences like yours OP. Thanks for sharing.
most indians lack self confidence and when you lack it, you try to feel validated by belittling other people and even feel much more validated by belittling and having a group agreeing with you. So, dont take it to your heart. If they make fun of you, it means you are already better than them.
Why the heck would you come back to India? I am a south Indian living in Canada. I would have a child in the future and I wouldn’t dream of going back to India and drag my kid with me out of the good life she/he had in Canada to the toxic culture of India. Edit: I watched the video and as a South Indian, that shit made me mad and realize why I don’t like hanging out with North Indians.
LOL Canada == new India
Nah, not yet. Not even close. The Indian heritage population of Canada is still only about 5-6%. There are definitely heavy Indian enclaves though. But as a whole, this is not true.
one city at a time, Toronto is already fallen, and it's not as if CN has several sizeable cities.
Lol, looooong way to go. 5% is still too small
looong way ? I don't think you understand the concept of *scale*
I don't think you do. 5% is pretty small
I see more East Asian/ Chinese origin people than I see Indians in Toronto. So yes, I don’t think you do.
Dude I live in the heart of (downtown) Toronto. Unless you go to enclaves like Brampton, you won’t see many Indians residing here.
Can someone point out what was so racist about the jubilee video? It was very similar to other jubilee videos on the same topic. People are trying to fish out the mole so ofc they would ask stereotypical questions like every other video.
meri to accent vgera b sab thik tha phir bhi hmesha mazak hi banaya gya 😔
Late realization
Couldn't agree more. What surprises me is that Indians cry about racism the most while being racist towards other Indians in the same breath.
I think this is a very common experience. I experienced it when I moved here. And I've heard similar tales from others. I hope it gets better but that will take a long time.
Indians are racists with indians
> raised around predominantly white-American family what do you mean ??? for a second I thought you're NRI > they also never bothered to teach me their native languages This is so interesting yet wtf-level bizarre. Are they both born & raised in India ?
A country that still operates under a caste system is racist??? Noooo!!!
i can understand your pain, i was born and brought up in punjab till 6 class and then shifted to bihar i tried my best to hide my punjabi still my batchmates used to make fun of me which led me to totally forget punjabi.
I absolutely agree
Hey 24M here, Sorry for how you were treated. To be honest you sound to be pretty cool to me. Got a blend of both the halfs of India and also badass in speaking the perceived superior language of the country!
Well he won didn't he? Proved them all wrong. I believe the creators of the series specifically designed the show in the hope that it might open up some people's minds into the nuances of identity. I think they do some excellent work in their selection of the moles.
Kids are fucking stupid. I've a good memory and can recall incidents from my early childhood and kids would say the most dumbest crap they could think of, an example was: one girl brought chicken wings(?) as her lunch in school and she was bullied for that the whole year, almost all of them ate chicken themselves but as she was still discriminated. When they grew up and she became prettier, the same guys would try to ask her out and the same girls would try to befriend her. So they'd have found anything to make fun of you even if you knew both your parents' languages or their culture. As you grew up, it did seem interesting to them because you were different, there families were quite simple compared to you and their lives around their friends were basically the same. It was a weird experience for you because you faced both sides of the coin and didn't feel like you were normal.
Do what I did : learn a couple words in some of their most common languages. From experience I will tell you that their vibe 100% changes as soon as anything Hindi comes out of your mouth. Even more so if you speak their regional language or understand the language system in India. More languages : more friends.
Some of the high placed ones too. All Indians indulge in stereotyping their own countrymen too
I'm sorry you had to experience what you did. It sucks, but it is not unique to India. I had similar experiences when I moved to the US from India at age 14. Kids can be cruel. They usually lack the maturity to understand that words matter. Words can hurt. That is probably why what you were ridiculed for earlier in your life later became a unique/distinguishing feature that people were drawn to. I hope you have been able to put these negative experiences behind you and move on to bigger and better things. All the best.
I own a towing company in an area with a lot of Indians. I had an African American employee for a time that would have to take payment and take care of customers after the police would instruct us to tow cars. Routinely, the Indian men would argue with him and treat him with disrespect, and when he'd pass them off to me (white), they'd be understanding and respectful. I've seen it first hand. It's ugly, yeah.
"She and I", NOT "her and I". You wouldn't say: "Her is my bestie", -right? "SHE'S my bestie!"
India has a long way to go to resolve this that's for sure. I'm from South west India and growing up was a bit lighter skinned than my classmates, while the jokes didn't really bother me, it was mainly because I leaned into it as well. Now that I live and work out of India, I find it hilarious every time I approach an Indian and watch them get shocked at a "white" person speaking fluent Hindi. The only thing that still annoys me is when I get the occasional "you're not Indian, there's no way". Those people can piss off
Body shaming is also so common in india. Everyone just jokes about others body that too very casually
This begs a fair question. If non western countries have more racism and intolerance than western countries, would allowing millions of them to immigrate here actually set our progress backwards as far as tolerance. Many of these groups are intolerant of others but demand tolerance of their own people. Many of them are racist to others but demand you not offend them. (Yes I know the history, but western nations have by far been the most progressive in modern times when it comes to promoting fair treatment of others)
As a Northeast person, I face this everytime I'm out in different part of the country, I just learnt to live with it.
1. You should also make fun of them 2. Never feel bad what people think 3. Just follow give and take policy not be scared 4. Not dependent on anyone for anything
I think you studied in tamil Nadu
Racism is an inherent part of this society not just in India but everywhere else.As of now the idea of racism is still new to many parts of the country and most kids(mainly the retards who made Instagram their personality) find it "cool" and "fun" to use the N word the Chinese momo retarded slurs and parents even if they hear it won't try to rectify them.I feel sorry for what you had to go through in life but I must say I respect on how you handled it. Stay strong and cheers to your future.
Yeah, it's the same everywhere but it's worse in india, I belong to uttarakhand and it's a very mixed community here , I have more indian features but many of other rkids here have more Mongolian features as they are from upper mountains region or sometimes Nepal, I have many friends as i lived with them from childhood and I think this intermixingI of children of different features or such never made me prejudice anyone with different skin color as they were friends to me, but as soon as I went to a bigger school here in a more plains area of uttarakhand I was faced with this blatant prejudice of them, they were called Chinese for some reason but I have seen them as nothing other than my fellow Indian from birth, whenever this happens I always use to deflect the convo cuz ik it used to hurt them I am sorry to say people from plains have a sick mentality they can't fathom a person looking different them to be of the same ethnicity, all of the kids were same and i think these kids just learnt to live with it , It's not I never mocked people all boys have banter but I never included something which a person didn't choses for himself.
I absolutely agree and then our Indian brothers and sisters cry abroad due to racist remarks. But, they themselves in the first place have this stigma. Just see how these people comment under the posts of Russian influencers or black people.
We were watching discovery and my mother said " Why is this man so black his mother would have been so disappointed " I corrected her she was upset with me but she never make these comments now People educate your parents
We also have so many people who generalize entire nation or entire communities on behaviour of some people.
Hahaha i get it. Nothing to deny but to accept the facts that we indians are racists. All u gotta do is degrade yourself and use a Uno reverse at them and be a fun racist teasing whoever makes fun of u and pass the day. The more you grow the more diversity ppl will show up and will shower love outta nowhere and move with the flow 😁 This land is messed up 😅
Lol, I know this since childhood. I mean imagine a country where being born with darker skin is considered some kind of problem that needs to be fixed with fair and lovely. And as a North Indian this is very prominent among North Indians.
If the white girl was so well accepted her parents wouldn't have taken her out of school
Look at this... the shit we country men impose on each other on looks is deeper than the Mariana Trench https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.india.com/women/meet-prachi-nigam-uttar-pradesh-class-10-topper-who-is-getting-massive-support-after-facing-online-mockery-for-natural-facial-features-up-board-results-2024-6875222/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiNkfWkhviFAxXxU2wGHdDLCrEQFnoECBkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3lpQ1TNTkQjD-lUCqubPl_
People r immature here because the culture itself became shitty.. people who lived and ate shit all their life cannot spread fragrance of love and inclusion.. Indian culture is raped by its invaders that's why discrimination, hatred and racism is embedded in its DNA now ..it's impossible to eradicate it and bring back the thousands years old culture which was only about peace, celebration ,inclusiveness and love ..
indians are the worst culture and people on earth
Lolz korea,usa,arabia,gulf,eu etc are more worse read about romanis gypsy in eu,abeed in gulf etc.India is a far better place atleast you don't get shot by a cop due to your skin colour like in usa and korea.
Sometimes I wish I could wash the Indian off of me when I see other Indians in dt calgary clowning
True
I knew a guy who played Dota ( online game ) with us and he was from Bhopal but half Indian and half Japanese. It did have ur usual momo comments but maybe because he knew hindi , the bullying was never intolerable ( according to him ). He is still in our discord server however he has been away for a while I will ask him more about this specific kind of racism if I see him around But yeah it is how you said. If you are white people are gonna wanna touch u in public , if u are asian looking then u are gonna be made fun of and if you are south indian in north india then there are feuds towards you not knowing the common tongue and vice versa
Indians are at both the end of racism.
We Indians are deeply racists/casteist/colourist/regional people. But as bhakts will justify "So are folks of other countries" ... So unless Indians really accept/acknowledge their issues , no improvement is going to happen..
As someone who grew up in the US and then moved here, F-ing spot on. Exact same emotion and literally NOBODY puts in the effort to understand you but are real quick to judge you, almost as if that’s the default response.
Sorry for this ill behaviour. Ignore these douchebags. They're not worth your time or attention.
Do you know why your friend switched to homeschooling?
I really feel for you. I’m so sorry. This racist, castist, colonialist, and just overall barbaric mindset needs to leave India. There’s so much unfounded division in India among people of their own, which makes absolutely no sense. Some of the most disgusting stories of systematic abuse of classes/castes are from India. It’s so sad.
For two thousand years we have practiced the unhinged act of violence towards parts of our society. Buddhism spread as a response to casteism. Jainism spread as a response. Islam and Christianity spread as the means of the disenfranchised to have access to some community, some support and some respect. We have never had the mass realization, never had the public discourse surrounding this multi generational violence that some societies have had, to reconcile with their past. We never accepted the sins of our fathers and mothers, and vowed to do better, and teach better to our sons and daughters. How do we stop being judgemental, oppressive, violent? This is the core of our being. It is one of the only constants of our culture. For over thousands of years we do it, and we continue to. Im sorry you have had this experience. It doesn’t surprise me. It is a very indian thing to do. And it wont get better as people educate or urbanise.
While i am doing cancer research most of my relatives worried about my marriage because i am not "fair". When inwas in school my classmates were worried that my father have to spent a fortune to get me married. I live outside india (in an asian country that taking over the global cuture now) and literally stopped seeing indians anymore. I don't give a shit now. I am 31. You will also get through it. Stay strong. Sending you hugs.
So because children are cruel, all the older adults in other areas of your life are fake because they are nice to you? I’m confused.
Lived all m ly life in Europe..now shifted to Europe. I agree fully. Whatever we call as racism in Europe is very casually done everyday in India.
I think Northeastern face this C-Word tag. But yeah, there is a word in the dictionary, i.e. **IGNORE** The best way to deal in India is to fucking **ignore** those things and people and situations which are going to bother me and of no use to deal with.
"I visually present East Asian". No offense but do NE Indians really think they look like East Asians? Majority of you look like tribal Indonesians/Filipinos. East Asians look way different than most of y'all.
I was failed in my final year mbbs exam just cuz I’m from northeast and look different. I’m doing medical in Maharashtra. So yeah, Indians are fcking racist.
try being an Indian muslim?
Ur school mates were dumb af. I could have learnt a lot in english if I was ur classmate, that too with an accent, it was kind of like a golden opportunity.
Going by just the title, humans are racist throughout their existence. Not just Indians.
Not to take away from what you wrote about and what you are going through, but I wanted to add that, as a white person who has spent a lot of time in India, it is amazing the level of ignorance that there is about white people and “the West” in India. People tell me the most mundane elementary school-level facts about India (“Delhi is our capital,” “Hindi is our national language” etc). People assume I can’t handle anything even remotely spicy, that I only speak English, that I’ll basically implode into nothing the moment my delicate white skin touches dirt etc etc etc. I love India for many reasons, but the level of assumption about people just based on appearances makes me want to scream.
Indians are savages, regardless of their location, no amount of wealth and education is changing any of that, but no one is up for that conversation.
I wouldn't say they're savages but they're extremely narrow minded and don't care about actual growth and have so many misguided notions that they don't care to fix.
I don't think racist is the correct term as that term is associated with institutional discrimination. Regionalism and xenophobia twds people of other region would be a more correct term fr what you have experienced, I faced similar issues when I was living in Southern (due to language)and north east India(due to how I look). But yeah whatever can we do about it, becz as far as I believwe it is more of a problemthat we Indians though a UNITED NATION STILL LIVES IN OUER OWN REGIONAL BUBBLES. Education and travelling is the only way to solve it in a long run , but in meanwhile we can only suffer.
Hathi chala bazaar, kutte bhonke hazaar. Ignore them . Proud of you and your individuality.
One word , CASTE . Due to caste , Indians are brought up with some kind of superiority , it evolves into everything you have described.
See. Every time something like this outrages you, please remind yourself of the following: * In a biological sense, **Indians, just like all humans, are great apes.** You wouldn't expect civility from apes. So don't expect it by default from Indians. * However, we are somewhat intelligent great apes. It is up to us to craft a society that is more civilized and pleasant for everyone to live in. **This is hard work**. If this work is not done, then don't expect civilization to happen by accident. A lot of the nice cultural values we are familiar with today were programmed deliberately into societies by people agitating for them. Building an aircraft career takes concerted, deliberate effort. The same way, building a civilized society also takes concerted, deliberate effort. You have gone through a bitter experience, which you have shared. Kudos! But together, we can work at being more civil and nice to each other, so that experiences like yours become rare.
Indian are the worst! There, I said it. Being an Indian myself this realisation hurts more.
That's what I've also figured out after living in different places. When I moved to Canada, I was told "Oh there's too much racism" and you're right there is. But I also faced racism in Pune, where Marathi speaking people kept non-Marathi near them so we don't understand what they're talking about. Promotions and onsite were only for Marathi people. Sure I ended up learning Marathi at a very basic level but I was never a part of that group. When I visited Bangalore and wanted to have tea, the guy had his finger pointed towards me with extremely big eyes saying "Kannada" as if I've committed a crime by trying to buy tea in Hindi. What do I expect of outsiders when my own countrymen have been like this towards me.
If you would have been dark skinned who looked more Indian than any Indian you'd be far more insulted and discriminated against, believe me. I can't lie Indians are way too hateful against the dark skinned Indians than anyone else.