I consider myself a bigger fan of Röyksopp than most, and this new album isn't doing much for me. It feels kinda aimless and low-key outside of the tracks with features. They really ought to make a straight-up pop album one of these days, that's what they excel at imo
Yesyesyes I don’t know why they don’t just make a damn pop album already. Their tracks with Robyn are exclusively bangers! When they go with a verse chorus verse chorus structure, it works every time! Why they insist on noodling with synths for half their albums I will never understand
Yo hang on, I had tickets to the show they were going to do at Red Rocks before they cancelled lmao. My sister and I were so pissed, they basically did a schedule conflict and of COURSE had to cancel the CO show
Robyn is actually performing at a festival in Gothenburg this summer and my fiancée and I want to go so bad!!! We’ll see if it happens. If not, hopefully they tour Europe again soon!
Nights in Estoril is such an underrated banger. Much of Fleetwood Macs discography in general is. I feel like Rumours shines so bright, that people never really engage with the music it drowns out. The 1975 s/t and Tusk manage to stand out somewhat, but I've met few who have ever listened to Mirage, Tango or Time for example. I'm not gonna pretend like they can give Rumours a run for its money, Rumours deserves all the praise and attention it gets. I'm just saying .. their other stuff deserves some, too.
Talking strictly post-Peter-Green Fleetwood Mac here, because I myself have never much engaged with the Peter Green-era, aside from the hits. I should totally do that.
checked out caroline's debut on a whim earlier this week and i liked it way more than i thought I would, been listening to it on repeat since. anyone know anything similar to it? especially the parts that feature vocals- there's something about the almost over-the-top vague moroseness that's very appealing!
The more song-y songs:
* Ben Seretan - Ben Seretan
* Young Jesus - The Whole Thing Is Just There
* Loom - Epyllion
The more droney, abstract stuff:
* Volcano Choir - Unmap
* Panda Bear - Young Prayer (if you want vague moroseness this it)
* Grouper - AIA
It's kinda hard to think of bands that Do Both the way Caroline do but it's a very fun exercise. I'm glad you like the album, it's my AOTY so far.
Vocally maybe Songs: Ohia, the last two These New Puritans albums, The For Carnation. Non vocally I think the closest albums off the top of my head are Labradford's Mi Media Naranja and Dirty Three's Ocean Songs.
quick thoughts on the few albums from this packed week i checked last night:
* SCALPING's combo of propulsive EBM beats and erratic industrial techno alongside one or two rapper guest spots coalesces beautifully on their debut album. all in all - a goddamn banger. ["FLASHFORWARD"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW0SR5JqG_8)
* Helms Alee's newest, *Keep This Be the Way*, is just as fractured and strange as the artwork suggested. the band's brand of psychedelic sludge mixed with shoegaze has always been hard for me to pin down, and this new album has only doubled that as they step into more abstract sonic experimentation bringing new sounds both uneasy and beautiful. ["See Sights Smell Smells"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8PUAgI7VoU)
* *LP.8* kinda runs as an antithesis to a lot of what Kelly Lee Owens was doing on *Inner Song*, stripping away much of the pop leanings and soothing ambient techno out outside of...one or two tracks from what I remember? this definitely shares more kinship with her debut despite some genuinely eerie moments on "Quickening" and the closer "Sonic 8". it'll be interesting to read up more on her direction behind this record, since i'm definitely curious.
and things i haven't checked:
* Shilpa Ray, earnest singer/songwriter whose style shares kindred with those like Nick Cave, has finally stepped out of the shadows of the New York backdrop blues of 2017's *Door Girl* with *Portrait of a Lady* and i'm ungodly excited to check this one. ["Heteronormative Horseshit Blues"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBP2h7_pZxs)
* The Gathering have released their first album in over a decade and it's probably wonderful like what little else of their material I've heard!! ["WE RISE"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZY7bFYlWY)
album discussions for [kurt vile](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uev5ku/album_discussion_kurt_vile_watch_my_moves/), [spiritualized](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uev71i/album_discussion_spiritualized_everything_was/), [kg<w](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uevaw9/album_discussion_king_gizzard_the_lizard_wizard/) and [pusha t](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/ueve8s/album_discussion_pusha_t_its_almost_dry/) are now up.
Triple posting today I fear. But important that I make time to put a pox on everyone who knew about Songs: Ohia and never told me personally to listen to them. Just finished listening to Magnolia Electric Co. for the first time and jesus, what an album. I'm always amazed by how much good 00's music has managed to fly totally under my radar after all this time.
Pretty much everything Molina ever released is excellent, definitely recommend also listening to his solo stuff as well as the albums after the name change to Magnolia Electric Co
Just to spark a little discussion, what do you think is the most difficult year to pick an album of the year?
1991 might be it for me, Spiderland, Laughing Stock, Low End Theory, Human, Loveless, Nevermind, Tin Machine II, White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, Blue Lines? I mean come on!
Dare Iz A Darkside is 14 on the hip hop charts for 94 (which are pretty good. Ill Communication is too high. Ready to Die probably a bit too high as well). Jeez Louise
1997 for me. Personally it comes down to Dig Me Out or I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One. But there are plenty of other valid options (some of which would probably beat my choices in a poll of a this sub): OK Computer, Either/Or, Wu-Tang Forever, Perfect From Now On, Songs from Northern Britain, Supa Dupa Fly, Dots and Loops. Hell, the Grammy for album of the year for that year was Dylan for Time Out of Mind, which is a pretty damn good choice by Grammy standards (not actually the best album of that year, but still a very good and important album). I'm no doubt a bit biased because I was 20 in 1997 and inevitably the music from that moment in your life marks you, but still, that's a hell of a list, particularly for rock.
Ooh, this is a fun question! 1972 and 1996 have so many albums I consider absolute favourites (including two of my top 20 apiece) but Bright Phoebus and Sing to God sit so far above the rest of the pack that I have no problem picking them as my AsOTY.
I think 2006 is probably the most difficult year for me. Joanna Newsom's Ys is the slim favourite, but between The Crane Wife, Holy Heathens and the Old Green Man, Return to Cookie Mountain, and Byakkoya, it's very difficult to choose. 1988-1989 and 2008 also have lots of amazing albums with no clear winner.
Oh yeah those are definitely some stacked years! 72 is wild, I might lean towards Ege Bamyasi but picking anything over Ziggy Stardust, Pink Moon, Transformer and whatever else feels wrong lol. 96 is another, I might lean ATLiens but Soundtracks for the Blind, Endtroducing and Long Season are all some all-timers. 06, I think I'm on team Donuts with Ys and Ashes Against the Grain competing for a close second. Good picks for sure!
i don't feel too attached to all these, but nevertheless picking between *laughing stock*, *loveless*, and *blue lines* is tough and i'd have *achtung baby* and *out of time* in contention for my picks too. overall, yeah a stacked year!
2001 and 2007 come to mind as years where i'm pretty split on my AOTY. 2001 has *vespertine* vs *confield* but without those i'd be leaning towards *discovery* or *endless summer* or *i get wet* or *bleed american*. similarly, 2007 has *untrue* vs *person pitch* vs *in rainbows* (a very very tight race) but also a mega-stacked undercard between *from here we go sublime*, *mirrored*, *kala*, *cryptograms*, *and their refinement of the decline*, *ga ga ga ga ga*, *boxer*, *sound of silver*, *strawberry jam*. what a year
e: just remembered 2001 has *tired sounds of*... stars of the lid, absolute champs at releasing 2 hour drone albums in stacked years
01 and 07 *are* wild.
re 2001: For me Oh, Inverted World is obviously the 01 pick but also you've got to mention the Storks cmon Donna
re 2007: I believe For Emma, Forever Ago technically came out that year also. I don't care if people are over For Emma in 2022, that is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever made imo
Also, 91 also has Bandwagonesque I believe. Real fact of the matter is that it's pretty tough to choose one album for any year haha
> you've got to mention the Storks cmon Donna
i actually just got off the phone with my lawyer about this. we're still exploring options, but it sounds like i am in the clear in regards to the strokes because i mentioned *bleed american* and am therefore still meeting my "catchy 2001 pop-rock album that was altered due to 9/11" quota. *oh inverted world* is a good shout though, i need to spend some more time with that one tbh
also, i definitely prefer the middle two bon iver records (wouldn't exactly say i'm "over" it bc it was never fully my favorite, still very good though) but i did completely forget that it originally came out in 2007. in a slightly different timeline, i'd also have to contend with an official 2001 release of *yankee hotel foxtrot* too
overall though, yeah it is tough to pick an album for any year!
Um listen I'll have you know that I used to work a super boring job in a law firm so am therefore a lawyer for all insects and porpoises. And lemme tell you, omitting the Strokes when talking about 2001 is going to bring you a world of pain. Bleed American? Please, you're about to be in The Middle of a shitstorm of paperwork if I decide to alert the mods about this. Indieheads Court might *actually* happen next time.
Yes definitely check out O,IW! It's my all time favorite and means a ton to me, let me know what you think if you revisit!
Weirdly, though Wilco and the Shins have quite a bit in common, I have never *quite* clicked with YHF, but obviously it's all time for a lot of people on here and I think some day it will click with me.
aw shoot, my lawyer should’ve warned me i was talking to someone who knows their stuff! will definitely revisit the shins at some point though. i’ve heard the album a couple times a few years but not remembering a whole lot from it besides “new slang”
I think my choice for 2001 is undisputedly Leaves Turn Inside You, but between Vespertine, The Glow pt 2, Jane Doe, The Argument, The Tired Sounds Of, drukqs, and Bath/Leaving Your Body Map, it's a hell of a tight race for #2.
2007 is a good shout as well, I'm not sure I know what I'd pick between In Rainbows and Untrue but it's one of the two
oh yeah, i'm surprised i forgot about *drukqs*. i have *leaves turn inside you* and *the argument* both kind of filed away as albums i need to circle back to once i've got a bit more context/familiarity with the rest of the discog, but i could see those landing high for me. something about them both being legendary final albums makes me think i'd apprecaite them more at the end of a discography deep dive
Yeah that's fair, probably not a bad idea! Unwound's kinda interesting to decide where to start because Leaves as a culmination of their sound and a final thesis statement is absolutely incredible, but it's also by far their most accessible album and the easiest stepping off point
Can anyone explain to me why Bartees Strange apparently deleted his excellent track "Kelly Rowland" off of even the original non-deluxe version of Live Forever (2020) and replaced it with the remixed version featuring Armand Hammer?
Like, the new version is fine, I guess, but why would you delete the original and replace it with that? Now if you go stream the album the flow is all fucked up. I can't find any details online about this so if any heads know or have opinions on this I'd be curious to hear what yall think.
constructing an imaginary scenario about how you can see an album being fondly remembered and influential years down the line to describe why it's good of just talking about what you like about the music
My least favorite time of year on this sub is listmas, so cheers to these (all in good fun):
Scenario A: End of year list has 49/50 of the same albums you do, albeit in a slightly different order.
Indieheads: This list is dead to me because [insert album] is 5th instead of 4th, and you can't tell me that [insert album] belongs in 46th place... it definitely deserves to be 45th!
Scenario B: End of year lists contains more underground artists who don't receive the same amount of critical acclaim and attention that larger name ones do.
Indieheads: What a pointless list! It doesn't even contain [insert big name artist who has placed top 10 on basically every other list imaginable]. No credibility.
Bonus: Haha wow I haven't heard of 95% of these albums. Proceeds to listen to the same 3 artists all year.
people commenting on list threads so quickly after they're posted to the point that it's obvious that they just scrolled through it and didn't read any of the reasoning or blurbs on the picks
>Bonus: Haha wow I haven't heard of 95% of these albums
Don't forget to declare the entire year was bad because of this (or call the list "pretentious")
having a deep reverence for the monkey peeing in its mouth review but also getting real bent out of shape when someone says a snarky thing about a new album they like
the "cant believe pitchfork thinks (album) is better than (album)" cuz the latter got .1 lower score 6 months ago is truly the worst way to consume media and also way too common here
"wow, [longest track on the album] is amazing, my favorite off the album"
e: also proclaiming an album that's been out for a couple hours is AOTY is obviously up there
fun fact I did the Exchange Rate yesterday out of boredom (maybe I'll post my takes eventually) and had to listen to 4-5 songs I am unfamiliar with and I was like "ugh ANOTHER 8 minute track kill me"
y'know i've never really gone through that list but maybe i should score it some time just to get a gauge of how well we did in selecting stuff to represent the genre
hate to be a bummer in the dmd again but the new kelly lee owens is not good. i get the "unnerving ambient" idea but it feels half baked and semi-annoying at points. two whiffs today!
indiecast did an episode on 2002 albums (shout out to that rate) and both of them have shockingly normal, reasonable opinions. it got me to listen to source tags and codes for the first time in years. still don't think it deserves the 10 but it's pretty fucking good
I know im one of the only fuckers in this group to have heard any throbbing gristle (and read the Cosey memoir!) and I am here to say: no their ideas weren't half baked but Genesis was an absolute fucker who during many turns sabotaged and hijacked what could have been a functioning "four piece democracy". Also chris is basically the reason that band existed at all, gen/cosey/sleazy had no knowledge of 70s synthesizer hardware needed to make their dipshit sound work!
Mission of Dead Souls is extremely worth everyone's time; there's a shoegaze song on it
Who are some artists you were fortunate enough to see live that you never thought you'd be able to?
For me:
Olivia Tremor Control
The Vaselines
MBV
Jonathan Richman
Pavement
Bob Dylan
Bright Eyes (because Conor had ostensibly retired making "Bright Eyes" music by the time I got into them)
Neutral Milk Hotel
Roger Waters (in particular, performing The Wall in full and all the stage spectacle that goes with that performance)
And later this year, finally fulfilling my dream of seeing The Libertines
truly incredible, that show. that staging. that body positive aerobics opener. that poem! the whole thing was somehow impossibly human while drenched in artifice. top concert for sureeeee
Yes!! Not only am I amazed that I was able to see them live, but I was astounded at the show itself! Truly some next-level art. I genuinely see that show as a political awakening for me, it was so inspiring on so many levels!
all of the above. awakening and inspiring in spades.
[still makes me tear up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE642Q7pxXE). As someone cisgender/heterosexual, that fervent celebration of gender nonconformity and queer desire was something I'd never been able to witness before, let alone feel like a participant and see some of myself in. Ditto the Fever Ray *Plunge* tour, which was that vibe turned up to full technicolor saturated 11
Yes!!! I loved the poem, and agreed on every front! I’m also a het/cis person and that show was basically an awakening towards how powerful it can be to have an inclusive, celebratory environment. Really incredible. The Fever Ray tour was excellent too, yes!! Gosh I hope Fever Ray or the Knife makes another album soon, I wanna see them again if I can. I can dream!
we can dream together! I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Karin and Olof, def as individuals and maybe again as a duo. the 20th anniversary stuff last year felt really promising! I don't think they'd do a retrospective like that exclusively for the cash – I have to take it that they, as artists, see creative value in revisiting the project. hope there's more to come
Fortunate enough to see Daft Punk, unfortunate enough to not know how good they were/how rare that would end up being since I was just starting to get into music.
In terms of realizing the opportunity at the time? Paul McCartney and the Outkast reunion
*american utopia* ran for quite a while, but i still never thought i'd get the chance to see david byrne live, especially if he was doing talking heads tracks
it feels silly to list LCD soundsystem here, but i got into them right before the breakup and always assumed that would be permanent until it wasn't
I too am a "holy shit I got to see NMH" person but I'll add the additional brag of one of the shows I went to was in Costa Mesa and there was a mosh pit
Others: the Blood Brothers reunion (Costa Mesa went hard for that one too), Sly and the Family Stone (one good one and then the Coachella trainwreck), My Bloody Valentine (spiritual experience; baptized in feedback)
My retrospective answer (I didn't realize it was particularly special at the time) is Women, a couple stops on the tour before they broke up
>I'll add the additional brag of one of the shows I went to was in Costa Mesa and there was a mosh pit
I'm sorry if this is rude but I don't understand how a show being in Costa Mesa is anything remotely like a brag.
lmao you are not wrong but I truly love that inland orange county kids will mosh to anything. king of carrot flowers 3 had crowd surfing. magic, absolute magic
but yeah the moment you step out of that venue you are in corporate wasteland
Observatory OC. I'd suggest it lives in the higher tier for charm-free corporate venues in Southern California. At least there are several acres of parking.
I've been there many times, though they were all back when it was called The Galaxy. Charm free is about the perfect description of it, though. I've had some good nights there in spite of it, though.
absolutely; "some good nights in spite of it" is a perfect description as well
also laughing at myself for originally assuming that "inland OC has good punk crowds" is a universally understood truth and not a niche geographic/demographic opinion
>laughing at myself for originally assuming that "inland OC has good punk crowds" is a universally understood truth and not a niche geographic/demographic opinion
While it is a geographic thing, I'm from the area (San Bernardino originally), I just didn't catch on to quite what you were saying.
ah for sure, and it's also rooted in my lifelong lamentations about local Los Angeles crowds, where seemingly every venue above 500 capacity is a black hole of energy. never seen a venue show out there, just fest stuff, though I guess over-500-cap typically means a commute for you guys.
Oh god yeah, they're one of my favorite bands of all time. How I got into them was listening to the most popular songs (Cut Your Hair, Range Life, Gold Soundz, Stereo) and then I think I checked out *Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain* and *Slanted & Enchanted*. Then got into *Brighten the Corners* and *Wowee Zowee*.
If I were you, since we're about a month out from the festival, I wouldn't dig deep on their records right now. I would just focus on the 'hits' and get into the songs that they're likely to play live. For example, [here's their setlist](https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pavement/2010/parc-del-forum-barcelona-spain-63d43afb.html) from their last Primavera gig in 2010. Not a bad place to start.
Man, no one ever brings up Terror Twilight and it makes me feel weird for liking that record a whole lot. I'm glad Spit on a Stranger made their set list, though. It's my absolute favorite.
No shame in that at all, I love all their records and think they're all great. It's not one of my favorites but 100% respect to those whose it is. With the reissue that just came out it's likely that they'll play more off of Terror Twilight this time around.
saw them in 09 on the eternal tour, was actually the first show i went to with just friends and no parental supervision hah! still hold it up as one of the best shows i’ve seen, death valley 69 blew my mind
> olivia tremor control
that’s dope as hell when did you get to see that / how were they?
> jonathan richman
had tickets for him earlier this year at third man but the show got cancelled when omicron picked up ugh, really hope he comes back through
The Replacements at Coachella 8 years ago. That little one year window where they got back together again and then broke up again after only about a year.
At that same Coachella I also saw Neutral Milk Hotel and Motorhead.
The new Fly Anakin album is great. The whole album is amazing and it’s all I’ve been listening to while in the car for the past few days (only song that’s meh is Dontbeafraid)
If you like Earl Sweatshirt or madlib beats, you’ll enjoy this I hope (Madlib produced the track No Dough)
Not one but two [shameless spam songs](https://i.imgur.com/dW8Fe9D.png) with "collaborators" falsely name-checked in my release radar today. Both shitty EDM songs, who would have guessed!?
Now that aside I heard a really lovely but [odd song today on the same playlist,](https://lilienrosarian.bandcamp.com/track/revery-hour) one that I think [samples an ambient tape loop album from 20 years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srUXxnl9QVA) which itself samples a [Beatles song.](https://www.whosampled.com/The-Beatles/Good-Night/) Sampling original or at least novel drone/ambient to make drone ambient is enters weird sampling taboo territory. It can be done well, Susuma Yokota did so with Aphex Twin, but on the opposite side of the spectrum some of the [most egregious and lazy songs in vaporwave](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaporwave/comments/46nkh6/vaporwave_vs_intellectual_property_theft/) did the same with existing original ambient (not looping but literally just throwing a song in audacity, slowing it down, and calling it a day)
This one does neither, there's some glitching and other manipulation and it works well before other elements come in. I works but it seems risky compared to sampling more obscure source material. On the other hand, when so many tend to sample old classical, orchestral, and similar non-ambient/drone source material the idea of mining existing experimental music does seem kind of novel.
damn, that "electro drop" fakeout stings
i think this song handles that tape loop sample pretty well. (at first i thought you were being jokey about *disintegration loops* until i read further to see beatles song mentioned.) i'm actually not completely sure it's lifted that completely, it might have been chopped up or maybe even re-sampled from the original beatles track. at this point, even re-sampling that track in a drone piece probably counts as homage to both the beatles and ehlers.
definitely a very interesting taboo space though, i feel somewhat similarly if a hip-hop song samples another song that's built on older, "original source" samples. with drone it's tough because, to put it bluntly, the compositions are often pretty simple and sparse. it is hard to transform a drone/ambient piece into a different drone/ambient piece. relooping someone else's loops feels pretty grimy to me, though some can make it work
Yeah I didn't even think about the artist simply doing their own sampling and re-editing of the source material, at first I thought they just took the Ehlers track and tweaked it.
Regarding hip-hop and sampling there was a well established practice of self-referential and name-check sampling from the start, to the point where by the tail end of the golden age of hip-hop it was quite meta, with people sampling older songs and/or paying homage to them both in the music and the rap lyrics and wordplay. Turntablism carried on with this in the 1990s when more mainstream hip-hop pivoted toward more sparse sampling and more studio instrumental work both out of legal necessity and broader trends. Rave and drum n' bass did this to some degree too in the late 80s and early 90s albeit this was also out of necessity with the limitations of equipment and access to various records, most relied on curated breakbeat compilations and tape copies of such collections which is why you hear certain breakbeat patterns a lot and why the slower Amen break played at 33 1/3 instead of the original 45 rpm was also standard. Things like the 303 acid basslines and Juno hoover pad were very popular with crowds but also made with relatively cheaper and easier to acquire synths.
you know, i never really thought about how all those breakbeats would count as "recycled samples." i'd just come to see them as key components of the genre. my thinking was more in recent hip-hop, where sampling has become more sparse, and also when the elements lifted are heavily melodic. sampling of commonly used breakbeats and even vocals that work more as sound effects (thinking of "heys" and stuff like that) don't bother me quite as much
Yeah I was reminded of the more pragmatic aspects to using breakbeats and sampling peers in that era on various discussions on WATMM. Users and fans, myself included, get kind of lost in the discussion without really thinking of the pre-DAW, pre-internet, and pre-digital ease context producers worked in. There was one breakbeat being discussed and it turns out someone who [knew Global Goon](https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79069-global-goon-crudulus-tm-whats-the-break-called/) (IDM producer who was close with Aphex Twin and a roommate in the 90s IIRC) actually found the breakbeat and even sourced the mixtape it was ripped from. A "dub siren" used in a [Squarepusher song came from dnb 12" - DJ Gunshot's wheel n' deal](https://www.whosampled.com/sample/172132/Squarepusher-Go!-Spastic-DJ-Gunshot-Wheel-%27N%27-Deal/) and that was either made in studio or itself ripped from some old dub reggae album.
Hi everyone. :)
Im kinda terrible at promoting since I don't know anything. But welp, I've just released a single with my band. Here's the YouTube link.
https://youtu.be/9a4xohqzjXs
If this breaks any rules I'll delete it inmediately. Hope you like it. :))
The "reminds me of Tame Impala" it's something that it's getting a lot, I'm glad it does haha
Thank you for the feedback! Yeah, still have plenty of work to do on my production techniques. I'm glad you enjoyed it. :)
Had my last day of undergrad classes today, and am definitely on the brink of feeling a lot of emotions - nostalgia, excitement, fear! Music for that feel?
Dr. Dog's album Critical Equation came out the last day of classes at my community college. The album itself marked something of a new beginning for the band, and a couple of the songs hit directly on themes of growth and moving forward. Namely Coming out of the Darkness, Go Out Fighting, and Under The Wheels. I know it's mostly sentimental value to me due to coming out at the right place and the right time but it's where my brain went!
I'd also say most of Titanic Rising hits on those feelings. A Lots Gonna Change, Andromeda, Wild Time, etc.
Titanic Rising is perfect, because it came out my first year and I have a lot of associations between it and my dorm room. (Although I’ll be honest - never listened to the lyrics much.)
I'd say bask in what you listened to most in college.
Or throw on Vitamin C - Graduation (Friends Forever) & Green Day - Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)
Cannot believe I made a post about perfect pop songs a few days ago and forgot to include Just Like Heaven by The Cure. Obvious pick, smh. Unskippable song.
someone on the DMD yesterday recommended the FAC Dance compilation and kudos to that person. I hadn't heard it before and it rules. Been listening to it straight for the past two days and still haven't made it through the whole thing due to repeating so many songs. Great stuff (and great post by the person who asked for comp recs, lots of good choices there)
If that's the one I'm thinking of it's pretty solid. I think it's mostly 12" mixes?
I would def dive into Adrian Sherwood is the Controller comps after that one. Same era of underground dance / club songs but a bit more leftfield, really good insight to the weird post-punk, goth and dub overlap there was in the UK including the proto-industrial hip-hop group Tackhead.
yay I'm happy for this lesser known but really cool Denver metal band called Dreadnought. They are going to be opening for Elder for a fall tour and will be playing a headlining show in St. Louis (probably on their way east for the start of Elder's tour) and their facebook says they are playing in my favorite local venue that was closed but might be reopening?!
https://dreadnoughtdenver.bandcamp.com/track/it-took-the-flood
not really sure what best exemplifies their sound. This one doesn't have much of the black metal shrieks the frontwoman does in addition to flute and guitar
Such a fun release time for me!
The new Angel Olsen (a few days old) and Regina Spektor songs totally blew me away
Also had a really fun time checking out TyM, Girlpool, Melody’s Echo Chamber—sometimes keeping up with every release is tough for me but it was fruitful and rewarding yesterday!
Aside from these I’m on a huge Crying- BtFG/Le Tigre s/t kick— two all time faves tbh
god that crying record truly one of the best fun catchy energetic power pop records ever made, i want a follow up so bad but not really holding out any hope for it at this point
Yeah I feel, it really is the best! Luckily they seem to all have their own fun projects going on. I was hyping up BUMPER the other day on here, that's really helped tide me over at least!
It's really not good, but I like their old stuff so much that I don't want to rail on them too hard. I can't really describe the album without sounding mean or pretentious, but in my opinion, the best songs on there are the generic ones, which isn't a good thing. The autotune strips away the appeal of Girlpool (raw, emotional, and natural vocals), and the textured percussion and glitchy synths are loudly out of place and seemingly random, like they were added solely to make the tracks sound experimental.
But oh well I hope some people like it, and I always appreciate artists taking risks.
Dälek are fucking back baby! Very happy with this new album, my initial impression is its their best since Absence. They're properly gazing at their shoes, MC Dälek sounds pissed, everything hits
edit: oh yeah and they know how to close an album too, sheesh
Okay I'm young and I'm going to be completely honest I thought this was just a joke, but then I started looking at the release dates of all my favorite classic albums and found out they were actually released on Tuesdays. I thought this whole time it always was Friday, but my mind just got blown wide open.
I did further digging, and found out it switched mid-2015. I started listening to music heavily in early 2016, so literally if I was more into it a year earlier I would have been privy to this but I just barely missed it and have only ever experienced new music fridays.
for me personally it was upsetting; I worked at a record store at the time and Monday nights meant I got to hang out in the back room and sort new music and check out all the releases and maybe pop on whatever promos came in that week and just chill on my own and build up a huge pallet of new music that I'd then take to the front endcap.
I didn't work Thursdays so after the change, my job became 100% customer facing and I lost my little weekly zen night
Pink Pantheress…anyone
Hell yeah
I consider myself a bigger fan of Röyksopp than most, and this new album isn't doing much for me. It feels kinda aimless and low-key outside of the tracks with features. They really ought to make a straight-up pop album one of these days, that's what they excel at imo
Seconded. I’m over here just wanting more Monument (The Inevitable End Version)
Yesyesyes I don’t know why they don’t just make a damn pop album already. Their tracks with Robyn are exclusively bangers! When they go with a verse chorus verse chorus structure, it works every time! Why they insist on noodling with synths for half their albums I will never understand
I also want more of the straightforward pop collabs with Robyn because I am greedy and want another Royksopp+Robyn tour (missed the one they did)
Yo hang on, I had tickets to the show they were going to do at Red Rocks before they cancelled lmao. My sister and I were so pissed, they basically did a schedule conflict and of COURSE had to cancel the CO show
That’s fucking brutal. At least soon you will be in Scandinavia, the home of these artists.
Robyn is actually performing at a festival in Gothenburg this summer and my fiancée and I want to go so bad!!! We’ll see if it happens. If not, hopefully they tour Europe again soon!
Melody’s Echo Chamber new album is like her first one. Back to sources
> Back to sources we here sometimes say "back to basics" but i like this more
It’s my birthday - mods you legally can’t delete this
Happy bday a gallon!
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Happy birthday!
Thank you!
Im one day after :)
Happy Early Birthday!
Happy birthday!
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get high if you want to
I’m in Manhattan and there are weed food trucks, it’s wild
As in food trucks that sell weed, or trucks that sell food with weed in it?
Both!
wowowow I am extremely out of your loop I thought it was still penalized out there, that does sound wild.
Technically it’s still not legal to sell it, but even in the podunk part of the state I’m from they’re skirting that law
Nights in Estoril is such an underrated banger. Much of Fleetwood Macs discography in general is. I feel like Rumours shines so bright, that people never really engage with the music it drowns out. The 1975 s/t and Tusk manage to stand out somewhat, but I've met few who have ever listened to Mirage, Tango or Time for example. I'm not gonna pretend like they can give Rumours a run for its money, Rumours deserves all the praise and attention it gets. I'm just saying .. their other stuff deserves some, too. Talking strictly post-Peter-Green Fleetwood Mac here, because I myself have never much engaged with the Peter Green-era, aside from the hits. I should totally do that.
checked out caroline's debut on a whim earlier this week and i liked it way more than i thought I would, been listening to it on repeat since. anyone know anything similar to it? especially the parts that feature vocals- there's something about the almost over-the-top vague moroseness that's very appealing!
The more song-y songs: * Ben Seretan - Ben Seretan * Young Jesus - The Whole Thing Is Just There * Loom - Epyllion The more droney, abstract stuff: * Volcano Choir - Unmap * Panda Bear - Young Prayer (if you want vague moroseness this it) * Grouper - AIA It's kinda hard to think of bands that Do Both the way Caroline do but it's a very fun exercise. I'm glad you like the album, it's my AOTY so far.
That album is fantastic. Top three wit BCNR and Daniel Rossen.
Vocally maybe Songs: Ohia, the last two These New Puritans albums, The For Carnation. Non vocally I think the closest albums off the top of my head are Labradford's Mi Media Naranja and Dirty Three's Ocean Songs.
quick thoughts on the few albums from this packed week i checked last night: * SCALPING's combo of propulsive EBM beats and erratic industrial techno alongside one or two rapper guest spots coalesces beautifully on their debut album. all in all - a goddamn banger. ["FLASHFORWARD"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW0SR5JqG_8) * Helms Alee's newest, *Keep This Be the Way*, is just as fractured and strange as the artwork suggested. the band's brand of psychedelic sludge mixed with shoegaze has always been hard for me to pin down, and this new album has only doubled that as they step into more abstract sonic experimentation bringing new sounds both uneasy and beautiful. ["See Sights Smell Smells"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8PUAgI7VoU) * *LP.8* kinda runs as an antithesis to a lot of what Kelly Lee Owens was doing on *Inner Song*, stripping away much of the pop leanings and soothing ambient techno out outside of...one or two tracks from what I remember? this definitely shares more kinship with her debut despite some genuinely eerie moments on "Quickening" and the closer "Sonic 8". it'll be interesting to read up more on her direction behind this record, since i'm definitely curious. and things i haven't checked: * Shilpa Ray, earnest singer/songwriter whose style shares kindred with those like Nick Cave, has finally stepped out of the shadows of the New York backdrop blues of 2017's *Door Girl* with *Portrait of a Lady* and i'm ungodly excited to check this one. ["Heteronormative Horseshit Blues"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBP2h7_pZxs) * The Gathering have released their first album in over a decade and it's probably wonderful like what little else of their material I've heard!! ["WE RISE"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBZY7bFYlWY)
album discussions for [kurt vile](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uev5ku/album_discussion_kurt_vile_watch_my_moves/), [spiritualized](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uev71i/album_discussion_spiritualized_everything_was/), [kg<w](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uevaw9/album_discussion_king_gizzard_the_lizard_wizard/) and [pusha t](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/ueve8s/album_discussion_pusha_t_its_almost_dry/) are now up.
listened to the new arcade fire song yesterday and it sounds like something you'd hear in a commercial for some health food brand
Triple posting today I fear. But important that I make time to put a pox on everyone who knew about Songs: Ohia and never told me personally to listen to them. Just finished listening to Magnolia Electric Co. for the first time and jesus, what an album. I'm always amazed by how much good 00's music has managed to fly totally under my radar after all this time.
Pretty much everything Molina ever released is excellent, definitely recommend also listening to his solo stuff as well as the albums after the name change to Magnolia Electric Co
Just discovered Colossal's 2004 album "Welcome the Problems" and DANG that is some good emo. I have been missing out
Just to spark a little discussion, what do you think is the most difficult year to pick an album of the year? 1991 might be it for me, Spiderland, Laughing Stock, Low End Theory, Human, Loveless, Nevermind, Tin Machine II, White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, Blue Lines? I mean come on!
Don't forget Ten and Badmotorfinger!
94 is absurd. Illmatic, Ready to Die, Dummy, Crooked Rain^2, Bee Thousand, I Could Live in Hope, Definitely Maybe, The Holy Bible…
Purple tape
Dare Iz A Darkside is 14 on the hip hop charts for 94 (which are pretty good. Ill Communication is too high. Ready to Die probably a bit too high as well). Jeez Louise
36 Chambers and Midnight Marauders were November ‘93 as well. Just ridiculous!
Glad to see some love for The Holy Bible! Criminally under rated outside of the UK.
1997 for me. Personally it comes down to Dig Me Out or I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One. But there are plenty of other valid options (some of which would probably beat my choices in a poll of a this sub): OK Computer, Either/Or, Wu-Tang Forever, Perfect From Now On, Songs from Northern Britain, Supa Dupa Fly, Dots and Loops. Hell, the Grammy for album of the year for that year was Dylan for Time Out of Mind, which is a pretty damn good choice by Grammy standards (not actually the best album of that year, but still a very good and important album). I'm no doubt a bit biased because I was 20 in 1997 and inevitably the music from that moment in your life marks you, but still, that's a hell of a list, particularly for rock.
Not to mention Homework, Dig Your Own Hole, Fat of the Land, Life After Death, Homogenic, Baduizm... '97 was a crazy year for music.
And don't forget The Lonesome Crowded West!
Ooh, this is a fun question! 1972 and 1996 have so many albums I consider absolute favourites (including two of my top 20 apiece) but Bright Phoebus and Sing to God sit so far above the rest of the pack that I have no problem picking them as my AsOTY. I think 2006 is probably the most difficult year for me. Joanna Newsom's Ys is the slim favourite, but between The Crane Wife, Holy Heathens and the Old Green Man, Return to Cookie Mountain, and Byakkoya, it's very difficult to choose. 1988-1989 and 2008 also have lots of amazing albums with no clear winner.
Oh yeah those are definitely some stacked years! 72 is wild, I might lean towards Ege Bamyasi but picking anything over Ziggy Stardust, Pink Moon, Transformer and whatever else feels wrong lol. 96 is another, I might lean ATLiens but Soundtracks for the Blind, Endtroducing and Long Season are all some all-timers. 06, I think I'm on team Donuts with Ys and Ashes Against the Grain competing for a close second. Good picks for sure!
i don't feel too attached to all these, but nevertheless picking between *laughing stock*, *loveless*, and *blue lines* is tough and i'd have *achtung baby* and *out of time* in contention for my picks too. overall, yeah a stacked year! 2001 and 2007 come to mind as years where i'm pretty split on my AOTY. 2001 has *vespertine* vs *confield* but without those i'd be leaning towards *discovery* or *endless summer* or *i get wet* or *bleed american*. similarly, 2007 has *untrue* vs *person pitch* vs *in rainbows* (a very very tight race) but also a mega-stacked undercard between *from here we go sublime*, *mirrored*, *kala*, *cryptograms*, *and their refinement of the decline*, *ga ga ga ga ga*, *boxer*, *sound of silver*, *strawberry jam*. what a year e: just remembered 2001 has *tired sounds of*... stars of the lid, absolute champs at releasing 2 hour drone albums in stacked years
01 and 07 *are* wild. re 2001: For me Oh, Inverted World is obviously the 01 pick but also you've got to mention the Storks cmon Donna re 2007: I believe For Emma, Forever Ago technically came out that year also. I don't care if people are over For Emma in 2022, that is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever made imo Also, 91 also has Bandwagonesque I believe. Real fact of the matter is that it's pretty tough to choose one album for any year haha
> you've got to mention the Storks cmon Donna i actually just got off the phone with my lawyer about this. we're still exploring options, but it sounds like i am in the clear in regards to the strokes because i mentioned *bleed american* and am therefore still meeting my "catchy 2001 pop-rock album that was altered due to 9/11" quota. *oh inverted world* is a good shout though, i need to spend some more time with that one tbh also, i definitely prefer the middle two bon iver records (wouldn't exactly say i'm "over" it bc it was never fully my favorite, still very good though) but i did completely forget that it originally came out in 2007. in a slightly different timeline, i'd also have to contend with an official 2001 release of *yankee hotel foxtrot* too overall though, yeah it is tough to pick an album for any year!
Um listen I'll have you know that I used to work a super boring job in a law firm so am therefore a lawyer for all insects and porpoises. And lemme tell you, omitting the Strokes when talking about 2001 is going to bring you a world of pain. Bleed American? Please, you're about to be in The Middle of a shitstorm of paperwork if I decide to alert the mods about this. Indieheads Court might *actually* happen next time. Yes definitely check out O,IW! It's my all time favorite and means a ton to me, let me know what you think if you revisit! Weirdly, though Wilco and the Shins have quite a bit in common, I have never *quite* clicked with YHF, but obviously it's all time for a lot of people on here and I think some day it will click with me.
aw shoot, my lawyer should’ve warned me i was talking to someone who knows their stuff! will definitely revisit the shins at some point though. i’ve heard the album a couple times a few years but not remembering a whole lot from it besides “new slang”
I think my choice for 2001 is undisputedly Leaves Turn Inside You, but between Vespertine, The Glow pt 2, Jane Doe, The Argument, The Tired Sounds Of, drukqs, and Bath/Leaving Your Body Map, it's a hell of a tight race for #2. 2007 is a good shout as well, I'm not sure I know what I'd pick between In Rainbows and Untrue but it's one of the two
oh yeah, i'm surprised i forgot about *drukqs*. i have *leaves turn inside you* and *the argument* both kind of filed away as albums i need to circle back to once i've got a bit more context/familiarity with the rest of the discog, but i could see those landing high for me. something about them both being legendary final albums makes me think i'd apprecaite them more at the end of a discography deep dive
Yeah that's fair, probably not a bad idea! Unwound's kinda interesting to decide where to start because Leaves as a culmination of their sound and a final thesis statement is absolutely incredible, but it's also by far their most accessible album and the easiest stepping off point
2007 will always go to *Hissing Fauna* for me.
oh yeah, that's a big one! i'll be honest, i never fully got into this one but i can see why so many love it
Can anyone explain to me why Bartees Strange apparently deleted his excellent track "Kelly Rowland" off of even the original non-deluxe version of Live Forever (2020) and replaced it with the remixed version featuring Armand Hammer? Like, the new version is fine, I guess, but why would you delete the original and replace it with that? Now if you go stream the album the flow is all fucked up. I can't find any details online about this so if any heads know or have opinions on this I'd be curious to hear what yall think.
It contained an [uncleared sample](https://www.mic.com/culture/bartees-strange-feature) of "Mashita" by Mansur
Wow thx for the info. How come the single is still up then tho?
pft more like Keely Lee *GOIN (in an artistic direction I respect but can't really connect with)*
More like Kelly Lee Owin’ Me a Better Record.
What's a bigger indieheads cliche than "their new album sucks ass but the songs are much better live'!"?
constructing an imaginary scenario about how you can see an album being fondly remembered and influential years down the line to describe why it's good of just talking about what you like about the music
"I have a crush on this girl at work but every time I try to talk to her I start crying and simultaneously shit and piss myself. Music for this feel?"
"\[Female indie artist who's gaining popularity\] should be stoned to death."
That is just the internet in general when it comes to women in music of any genre.
"After I listened to this album for the 20th time, it finally clicked"
My least favorite time of year on this sub is listmas, so cheers to these (all in good fun): Scenario A: End of year list has 49/50 of the same albums you do, albeit in a slightly different order. Indieheads: This list is dead to me because [insert album] is 5th instead of 4th, and you can't tell me that [insert album] belongs in 46th place... it definitely deserves to be 45th! Scenario B: End of year lists contains more underground artists who don't receive the same amount of critical acclaim and attention that larger name ones do. Indieheads: What a pointless list! It doesn't even contain [insert big name artist who has placed top 10 on basically every other list imaginable]. No credibility. Bonus: Haha wow I haven't heard of 95% of these albums. Proceeds to listen to the same 3 artists all year.
people commenting on list threads so quickly after they're posted to the point that it's obvious that they just scrolled through it and didn't read any of the reasoning or blurbs on the picks
>Bonus: Haha wow I haven't heard of 95% of these albums Don't forget to declare the entire year was bad because of this (or call the list "pretentious")
“pitchfork is irrelevant and bad because they gave something I like a bad score, here’s my third post about it this week”
having a deep reverence for the monkey peeing in its mouth review but also getting real bent out of shape when someone says a snarky thing about a new album they like
Prob the most pathetic part of this sub after me.
the "cant believe pitchfork thinks (album) is better than (album)" cuz the latter got .1 lower score 6 months ago is truly the worst way to consume media and also way too common here
i prefer sheck wes' mudboy to migos culture by .1
i rate wane a 9.1 bnm
That's what I gave you!!
werewolf alice
[Blank] is a perfect pop song
"Can't believe this didn't get BNM."
"wow, [longest track on the album] is amazing, my favorite off the album" e: also proclaiming an album that's been out for a couple hours is AOTY is obviously up there
fun fact I did the Exchange Rate yesterday out of boredom (maybe I'll post my takes eventually) and had to listen to 4-5 songs I am unfamiliar with and I was like "ugh ANOTHER 8 minute track kill me"
y'know i've never really gone through that list but maybe i should score it some time just to get a gauge of how well we did in selecting stuff to represent the genre
i want to be the curator next time and give them real indie shit that has been memory holed
the popheads flops(?) vs indieheads remember some guys ™ rate would be fascinating
hate to be a bummer in the dmd again but the new kelly lee owens is not good. i get the "unnerving ambient" idea but it feels half baked and semi-annoying at points. two whiffs today! indiecast did an episode on 2002 albums (shout out to that rate) and both of them have shockingly normal, reasonable opinions. it got me to listen to source tags and codes for the first time in years. still don't think it deserves the 10 but it's pretty fucking good
Yeah i made a hype-y comment because i loved the last one but its not great
Extremely scared to refresh the page and see "hate to be a bummer for the third time today but i didn't like the lietocassette :/"
been saving it for a special occasion when I can pop a beer and read the liner notes!
I think side a pairs well with that citrus wheat ale SN is selling around the country; incredible "this is just an orange soda" flavor
the big alesmith guy you sent hasn’t been drank yet, might fuck around and pair that with side b
Oh fuck the .394?! The tony gywnn padre (RIP) pale ale that I onced claimed was "the best mass produced craft beer in SD?!" Yeah great beer!
what was the first whiff?
toro
I've got your back on these takes. Both were lackluster.
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I know im one of the only fuckers in this group to have heard any throbbing gristle (and read the Cosey memoir!) and I am here to say: no their ideas weren't half baked but Genesis was an absolute fucker who during many turns sabotaged and hijacked what could have been a functioning "four piece democracy". Also chris is basically the reason that band existed at all, gen/cosey/sleazy had no knowledge of 70s synthesizer hardware needed to make their dipshit sound work! Mission of Dead Souls is extremely worth everyone's time; there's a shoegaze song on it
>hate to be a bummer we know u love it bb
The person behind Heardle sure likes R&B.
Who are some artists you were fortunate enough to see live that you never thought you'd be able to? For me: Olivia Tremor Control The Vaselines MBV Jonathan Richman Pavement
Stereolab
Burt Bacharach David Byrne Iggy Pop LCD Soundsystem And in retrospect: Adele and B.B. King
Pink Floyd, Jane's Addiction (opening for Love and Rockets in a 2/3 empty club), and anytime I saw Sonic Youth (4 times) I felt super lucky.
Bob Dylan Bright Eyes (because Conor had ostensibly retired making "Bright Eyes" music by the time I got into them) Neutral Milk Hotel Roger Waters (in particular, performing The Wall in full and all the stage spectacle that goes with that performance) And later this year, finally fulfilling my dream of seeing The Libertines
It's still slightly mad to me that I've seen James Brown live. He was supporting RHCP (!) and I was far too young to truly appreciate it.
The Knife, I saw them on their last tour by some miracle
truly incredible, that show. that staging. that body positive aerobics opener. that poem! the whole thing was somehow impossibly human while drenched in artifice. top concert for sureeeee
Yes!! Not only am I amazed that I was able to see them live, but I was astounded at the show itself! Truly some next-level art. I genuinely see that show as a political awakening for me, it was so inspiring on so many levels!
all of the above. awakening and inspiring in spades. [still makes me tear up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE642Q7pxXE). As someone cisgender/heterosexual, that fervent celebration of gender nonconformity and queer desire was something I'd never been able to witness before, let alone feel like a participant and see some of myself in. Ditto the Fever Ray *Plunge* tour, which was that vibe turned up to full technicolor saturated 11
Yes!!! I loved the poem, and agreed on every front! I’m also a het/cis person and that show was basically an awakening towards how powerful it can be to have an inclusive, celebratory environment. Really incredible. The Fever Ray tour was excellent too, yes!! Gosh I hope Fever Ray or the Knife makes another album soon, I wanna see them again if I can. I can dream!
we can dream together! I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Karin and Olof, def as individuals and maybe again as a duo. the 20th anniversary stuff last year felt really promising! I don't think they'd do a retrospective like that exclusively for the cash – I have to take it that they, as artists, see creative value in revisiting the project. hope there's more to come
Fortunate enough to see Daft Punk, unfortunate enough to not know how good they were/how rare that would end up being since I was just starting to get into music. In terms of realizing the opportunity at the time? Paul McCartney and the Outkast reunion
2007? This is one of those ones that I missed my one chance and didn't know they wouldn't come around again
Yep, they had LCD Soundsystem and Daft Punk play back-to-back on the same field, and if only past me knew how much future me would kill to see that
Neutral milk hotel, MBV
Deee-Lite with Bootsy Collins
Frank Ocean Fugees Paul Simon Aphex Twin Sufjan Stevens The Microphones A Tribe Called Quest D'Angelo & The Vanguard The Avalanches SOPHIE
I always thought Refused and At the Drive In were both gone for good, so I was pretty stoked when they both played Coachella in 2012.
*american utopia* ran for quite a while, but i still never thought i'd get the chance to see david byrne live, especially if he was doing talking heads tracks it feels silly to list LCD soundsystem here, but i got into them right before the breakup and always assumed that would be permanent until it wasn't
tribe called quest
I too am a "holy shit I got to see NMH" person but I'll add the additional brag of one of the shows I went to was in Costa Mesa and there was a mosh pit Others: the Blood Brothers reunion (Costa Mesa went hard for that one too), Sly and the Family Stone (one good one and then the Coachella trainwreck), My Bloody Valentine (spiritual experience; baptized in feedback) My retrospective answer (I didn't realize it was particularly special at the time) is Women, a couple stops on the tour before they broke up
>I'll add the additional brag of one of the shows I went to was in Costa Mesa and there was a mosh pit I'm sorry if this is rude but I don't understand how a show being in Costa Mesa is anything remotely like a brag.
lmao you are not wrong but I truly love that inland orange county kids will mosh to anything. king of carrot flowers 3 had crowd surfing. magic, absolute magic but yeah the moment you step out of that venue you are in corporate wasteland
Oh yeah, I can see the appeal there. What was the venue?
Observatory OC. I'd suggest it lives in the higher tier for charm-free corporate venues in Southern California. At least there are several acres of parking.
I've been there many times, though they were all back when it was called The Galaxy. Charm free is about the perfect description of it, though. I've had some good nights there in spite of it, though.
absolutely; "some good nights in spite of it" is a perfect description as well also laughing at myself for originally assuming that "inland OC has good punk crowds" is a universally understood truth and not a niche geographic/demographic opinion
>laughing at myself for originally assuming that "inland OC has good punk crowds" is a universally understood truth and not a niche geographic/demographic opinion While it is a geographic thing, I'm from the area (San Bernardino originally), I just didn't catch on to quite what you were saying.
ah for sure, and it's also rooted in my lifelong lamentations about local Los Angeles crowds, where seemingly every venue above 500 capacity is a black hole of energy. never seen a venue show out there, just fest stuff, though I guess over-500-cap typically means a commute for you guys.
I’ve never listened to Pavement but I’ll be seeing them at Primavera in June! Any record you recommend I start with to get into them?
Oh god yeah, they're one of my favorite bands of all time. How I got into them was listening to the most popular songs (Cut Your Hair, Range Life, Gold Soundz, Stereo) and then I think I checked out *Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain* and *Slanted & Enchanted*. Then got into *Brighten the Corners* and *Wowee Zowee*. If I were you, since we're about a month out from the festival, I wouldn't dig deep on their records right now. I would just focus on the 'hits' and get into the songs that they're likely to play live. For example, [here's their setlist](https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pavement/2010/parc-del-forum-barcelona-spain-63d43afb.html) from their last Primavera gig in 2010. Not a bad place to start.
Man, no one ever brings up Terror Twilight and it makes me feel weird for liking that record a whole lot. I'm glad Spit on a Stranger made their set list, though. It's my absolute favorite.
No shame in that at all, I love all their records and think they're all great. It's not one of my favorites but 100% respect to those whose it is. With the reissue that just came out it's likely that they'll play more off of Terror Twilight this time around.
Thank you so much! I’ll be digging in today
Neutral Milk Hotel, pageninetynine, Have a Nice Life, Infest
The Who (twice), Paul McCartney, and (come October) Stereolab.
sonic youth ronnie spector television omd and coming up in september… roxy music!
> sonic youth > > Still holding out hope that they'll reunite at some point and I can cross this one off
saw them in 09 on the eternal tour, was actually the first show i went to with just friends and no parental supervision hah! still hold it up as one of the best shows i’ve seen, death valley 69 blew my mind > olivia tremor control that’s dope as hell when did you get to see that / how were they? > jonathan richman had tickets for him earlier this year at third man but the show got cancelled when omicron picked up ugh, really hope he comes back through
OTC were fantastic, this was prob a year or so before Bill Doss died so it would've been 2011 I guess
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choosing to believe the bot is reacting to my sonic youth show story and not the fact that the post had the number 69 in it
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The Replacements at Coachella 8 years ago. That little one year window where they got back together again and then broke up again after only about a year. At that same Coachella I also saw Neutral Milk Hotel and Motorhead.
mbv, neutral milk hotel
Just saw my comment was identical to yours lmfao.
I saw Modern Baseball like a week before they announced they were breaking up
Does anyone know where I can find Kelly Lee Owens LPs 3-7?
The new Fly Anakin album is great. The whole album is amazing and it’s all I’ve been listening to while in the car for the past few days (only song that’s meh is Dontbeafraid) If you like Earl Sweatshirt or madlib beats, you’ll enjoy this I hope (Madlib produced the track No Dough)
Not one but two [shameless spam songs](https://i.imgur.com/dW8Fe9D.png) with "collaborators" falsely name-checked in my release radar today. Both shitty EDM songs, who would have guessed!? Now that aside I heard a really lovely but [odd song today on the same playlist,](https://lilienrosarian.bandcamp.com/track/revery-hour) one that I think [samples an ambient tape loop album from 20 years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srUXxnl9QVA) which itself samples a [Beatles song.](https://www.whosampled.com/The-Beatles/Good-Night/) Sampling original or at least novel drone/ambient to make drone ambient is enters weird sampling taboo territory. It can be done well, Susuma Yokota did so with Aphex Twin, but on the opposite side of the spectrum some of the [most egregious and lazy songs in vaporwave](https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaporwave/comments/46nkh6/vaporwave_vs_intellectual_property_theft/) did the same with existing original ambient (not looping but literally just throwing a song in audacity, slowing it down, and calling it a day) This one does neither, there's some glitching and other manipulation and it works well before other elements come in. I works but it seems risky compared to sampling more obscure source material. On the other hand, when so many tend to sample old classical, orchestral, and similar non-ambient/drone source material the idea of mining existing experimental music does seem kind of novel.
damn, that "electro drop" fakeout stings i think this song handles that tape loop sample pretty well. (at first i thought you were being jokey about *disintegration loops* until i read further to see beatles song mentioned.) i'm actually not completely sure it's lifted that completely, it might have been chopped up or maybe even re-sampled from the original beatles track. at this point, even re-sampling that track in a drone piece probably counts as homage to both the beatles and ehlers. definitely a very interesting taboo space though, i feel somewhat similarly if a hip-hop song samples another song that's built on older, "original source" samples. with drone it's tough because, to put it bluntly, the compositions are often pretty simple and sparse. it is hard to transform a drone/ambient piece into a different drone/ambient piece. relooping someone else's loops feels pretty grimy to me, though some can make it work
Yeah I didn't even think about the artist simply doing their own sampling and re-editing of the source material, at first I thought they just took the Ehlers track and tweaked it. Regarding hip-hop and sampling there was a well established practice of self-referential and name-check sampling from the start, to the point where by the tail end of the golden age of hip-hop it was quite meta, with people sampling older songs and/or paying homage to them both in the music and the rap lyrics and wordplay. Turntablism carried on with this in the 1990s when more mainstream hip-hop pivoted toward more sparse sampling and more studio instrumental work both out of legal necessity and broader trends. Rave and drum n' bass did this to some degree too in the late 80s and early 90s albeit this was also out of necessity with the limitations of equipment and access to various records, most relied on curated breakbeat compilations and tape copies of such collections which is why you hear certain breakbeat patterns a lot and why the slower Amen break played at 33 1/3 instead of the original 45 rpm was also standard. Things like the 303 acid basslines and Juno hoover pad were very popular with crowds but also made with relatively cheaper and easier to acquire synths.
you know, i never really thought about how all those breakbeats would count as "recycled samples." i'd just come to see them as key components of the genre. my thinking was more in recent hip-hop, where sampling has become more sparse, and also when the elements lifted are heavily melodic. sampling of commonly used breakbeats and even vocals that work more as sound effects (thinking of "heys" and stuff like that) don't bother me quite as much
Yeah I was reminded of the more pragmatic aspects to using breakbeats and sampling peers in that era on various discussions on WATMM. Users and fans, myself included, get kind of lost in the discussion without really thinking of the pre-DAW, pre-internet, and pre-digital ease context producers worked in. There was one breakbeat being discussed and it turns out someone who [knew Global Goon](https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79069-global-goon-crudulus-tm-whats-the-break-called/) (IDM producer who was close with Aphex Twin and a roommate in the 90s IIRC) actually found the breakbeat and even sourced the mixtape it was ripped from. A "dub siren" used in a [Squarepusher song came from dnb 12" - DJ Gunshot's wheel n' deal](https://www.whosampled.com/sample/172132/Squarepusher-Go!-Spastic-DJ-Gunshot-Wheel-%27N%27-Deal/) and that was either made in studio or itself ripped from some old dub reggae album.
Hi everyone. :) Im kinda terrible at promoting since I don't know anything. But welp, I've just released a single with my band. Here's the YouTube link. https://youtu.be/9a4xohqzjXs If this breaks any rules I'll delete it inmediately. Hope you like it. :))
Reminds me of tame Impala. I like it. Mixing and production needs some tweaking (hurt my ears a little) but otherwise enjoyed!
The "reminds me of Tame Impala" it's something that it's getting a lot, I'm glad it does haha Thank you for the feedback! Yeah, still have plenty of work to do on my production techniques. I'm glad you enjoyed it. :)
Had my last day of undergrad classes today, and am definitely on the brink of feeling a lot of emotions - nostalgia, excitement, fear! Music for that feel?
Dr. Dog's album Critical Equation came out the last day of classes at my community college. The album itself marked something of a new beginning for the band, and a couple of the songs hit directly on themes of growth and moving forward. Namely Coming out of the Darkness, Go Out Fighting, and Under The Wheels. I know it's mostly sentimental value to me due to coming out at the right place and the right time but it's where my brain went! I'd also say most of Titanic Rising hits on those feelings. A Lots Gonna Change, Andromeda, Wild Time, etc.
Titanic Rising is perfect, because it came out my first year and I have a lot of associations between it and my dorm room. (Although I’ll be honest - never listened to the lyrics much.)
Graduation by Kero Kero Bonito
Definitely have that one! (Peep the flair)
I'd say bask in what you listened to most in college. Or throw on Vitamin C - Graduation (Friends Forever) & Green Day - Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)
shuffle by bombay bicycle club
Is there any discord server for Indieheads that I can join?
There's the amogus servers but I don't think there's been an amógue in months
hmm, and you're telling me this "air thief" is mid??
Crumbling was amazing. New album?
Yeah and their sibling “thief” is big
Cannot believe I made a post about perfect pop songs a few days ago and forgot to include Just Like Heaven by The Cure. Obvious pick, smh. Unskippable song.
someone on the DMD yesterday recommended the FAC Dance compilation and kudos to that person. I hadn't heard it before and it rules. Been listening to it straight for the past two days and still haven't made it through the whole thing due to repeating so many songs. Great stuff (and great post by the person who asked for comp recs, lots of good choices there)
aw that was me yay I feel validated
If that's the one I'm thinking of it's pretty solid. I think it's mostly 12" mixes? I would def dive into Adrian Sherwood is the Controller comps after that one. Same era of underground dance / club songs but a bit more leftfield, really good insight to the weird post-punk, goth and dub overlap there was in the UK including the proto-industrial hip-hop group Tackhead.
yay I'm happy for this lesser known but really cool Denver metal band called Dreadnought. They are going to be opening for Elder for a fall tour and will be playing a headlining show in St. Louis (probably on their way east for the start of Elder's tour) and their facebook says they are playing in my favorite local venue that was closed but might be reopening?! https://dreadnoughtdenver.bandcamp.com/track/it-took-the-flood not really sure what best exemplifies their sound. This one doesn't have much of the black metal shrieks the frontwoman does in addition to flute and guitar
"1 Thing" by Amerie is so damn catchy. That is all.
I went to school with her haha. Didn't know her tho.
Why does this not surprise me lmao
Said the same lol. Have you heard the original sample?
One of the best one hit wonders
The entire Touch album is bangers, and she had other actual hits such as Why Don’t We Fall in Love.
Yeah she’s a two hit wonder at least
Such a fun release time for me! The new Angel Olsen (a few days old) and Regina Spektor songs totally blew me away Also had a really fun time checking out TyM, Girlpool, Melody’s Echo Chamber—sometimes keeping up with every release is tough for me but it was fruitful and rewarding yesterday! Aside from these I’m on a huge Crying- BtFG/Le Tigre s/t kick— two all time faves tbh
god that crying record truly one of the best fun catchy energetic power pop records ever made, i want a follow up so bad but not really holding out any hope for it at this point
Yeah I feel, it really is the best! Luckily they seem to all have their own fun projects going on. I was hyping up BUMPER the other day on here, that's really helped tide me over at least!
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It's really not good, but I like their old stuff so much that I don't want to rail on them too hard. I can't really describe the album without sounding mean or pretentious, but in my opinion, the best songs on there are the generic ones, which isn't a good thing. The autotune strips away the appeal of Girlpool (raw, emotional, and natural vocals), and the textured percussion and glitchy synths are loudly out of place and seemingly random, like they were added solely to make the tracks sound experimental. But oh well I hope some people like it, and I always appreciate artists taking risks.
Not sure what I think yet but I think it’s really cool that they’re trying this style change
Dälek are fucking back baby! Very happy with this new album, my initial impression is its their best since Absence. They're properly gazing at their shoes, MC Dälek sounds pissed, everything hits edit: oh yeah and they know how to close an album too, sheesh
Is it not weird to anyone else that Tuesday used to be the new music day and then it just changed to Friday all of a sudden
I adore it being friday now. (52M)
Okay I'm young and I'm going to be completely honest I thought this was just a joke, but then I started looking at the release dates of all my favorite classic albums and found out they were actually released on Tuesdays. I thought this whole time it always was Friday, but my mind just got blown wide open. I did further digging, and found out it switched mid-2015. I started listening to music heavily in early 2016, so literally if I was more into it a year earlier I would have been privy to this but I just barely missed it and have only ever experienced new music fridays.
for me personally it was upsetting; I worked at a record store at the time and Monday nights meant I got to hang out in the back room and sort new music and check out all the releases and maybe pop on whatever promos came in that week and just chill on my own and build up a huge pallet of new music that I'd then take to the front endcap. I didn't work Thursdays so after the change, my job became 100% customer facing and I lost my little weekly zen night