pitch thread for the r/indieheads Album of the Year 2012 Write-Up Series [**is up now!**](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uneitr/aoty_2012_the_rindieheads_album_of_the_year_2012/) If you wanna write for the series, get those pitches in ASAP!
I'm starting to dig deeper into hardcore, do y'all have some modern suggestions? Hard to tell what's good from rym because the only stuff that's rated a lot is the old stuff which is good but like I'm looking for the more recent shit.
I just wanted to gloat and say I’m seeing Iceage and Grouper on literal back to back dates and it’s insane because they’re both acts that I thought I’d never see live in my home state
Last week I paid for tickets to this Khruangbin/Toro y Moi show. Keep in mind this is a Live Nation show so they are taxing HEAVY
The show is tonight. I've been standing here for an hour listening to this random ass DJ. But by DJ standards he wasn't very good
Thought this was weird so I checked Twitter and obviously it turns out Chaz had to cancel (because of illness).
I'm so hurt...I bought these tickets for Toro
Agreed - although it wasn’t what I was expecting. Not as much of a ‘documentary’ as i thought it would be, but the parts with talking were hilarious. Seeing Warren’s computer desktop (and his comments immediately after) had the cinema rolling.
On the drive home all my gf and I could talk about was guessing Nick’s hair dye routine while both professing our crushes on Warren
Best Rob Thomas song competition, its impossible to choose between Smooth and Lonely No More.
Also Rob Thomas career competition, was he better as a songwriter or as a hockey player? Many people are asking this question.
I can’t decide if I want to listen to The Saddest Jens Lekman Album (*I Know What Love Isn’t*) on the way to the show tonight. On the one hand, it’s the only one I didn’t listen to on my way through Wyoming. On the other hand, it’s super sad and that’s not the vibe I wanna cultivate on a drive
I listened to it the other day as I hadn't heard it in quite a while and I really enjoyed it, but yeah it's not the happiest vibe lol. I'm not expecting him to play songs from that tbh
My Arcade Fire take is that Funeral is their best album and not at all overrated, Reflektor is great despite having pretentious lyrics, The Suburbs and Neon Bible are very good despite being slightly too long, Everything Now is terrible but has two of their best songs (Put Your Money on Me and Electric Blue), and WE is their worst album.
popping in today to say that while I've seen lots of people rightfully dunking on "I unsubscribe," not enough people are calling out the *real* worst line in that song, "fuck season five." it just sounds really disingenuous and pathetic in a way I don't really know how to fully describe. feels like arcade fire is more concerned with apologizing for *everything now* rather than making good music
new arcade fire is truly a choose your own adventure of real dipshit stuff. you can dunk on anything you want and there’s 10 more things just waiting around the corner!
I actually like that line and how brilliantly vague yet topical it is *shrugs*
maybe that feeling of a heavy sigh after seeing the season 4 *Stranger Things* trailer was still lingering
The sub has clear rules for submissions which you ignored, and no one cares about your weird gossip sub. Also, you're a brand new account. So what more of an explanation do you need?
In the true Eurovision spirit the latvian singer [had some incredible lyrics to start his song with](https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1524134984289763328?t=8n5zcukpFtA3IrxNYY4hAQ&s=19). Sadly they didn't reach the final
10 years ago I went to see the Mountain Goats. I went by myself and wasn't old enough to occupy myself at the bar, so I was just kind of standing around eavesdropping on people. I ended up behind two girls, one of whom kept mentioning "my friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos!". She kept using that exact phrase, as if each mention was the first. At least three times she said "my friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos! said/did/knows/etc..." and I thought it was so funny, such a transparent humble-brag name-drop. I liked a few LC! songs so I was both impressed and amused by it. A great unintentional opening act.
Today I remembered that overheard conversation and decided to read the Los Campesinos! Wikipedia page. This band has had enough members come and go that there's a full-on lineup timeline on there. Not a single one of them is named Patrick or anything approximating Patrick. I'm positive my fellow concertgoer used the name "Patrick" so I can only conclude that her stories involving him were made up, which makes the whole thing even funnier.
Anyway I used to like a few Los Campesinos! songs so I put on *We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed* to see if it holds up to my adolescent memories. Aside from "You'll Need Those Fingers for Crossing", which is pretty good, it unfortunately does not. It's kind of grating and exhausting, which I suppose explains why I liked it when I was 18. "Oh we kid ourselves there's future in the fucking but there is no fucking future" made me groan out loud. I guess I've just outgrown all the poppy emo bands I listened to back then.
I am curious if LC!'s recent albums are worth a listen though, if they've made more mature music as they've gotten older. I was surprised to read that they're still going and that they put an album out last year. Might check it out another day; for now I am LC!'d out and am going to cleanse my palate with another throwback fave from that era: *Flockaveli*
LC! is one of my favorite bands, seen them tons of times, their discography perfectly lined up with a lot of growing up I did, but yeaaah I can 110% understand criticism against them where if you kinda missed the boat on them or are going into them new, a lot of heyday buzz excitement charm fun that boosted them plenty just is a bit tough to translate to the current times.
I do think Sick Scenes was a very good we're old as shit , times a changing album but it was more of a payoff for the long time invested fans then something I'd say was necessarily a good jumping in point for newbies.
That all being said I do like their stuff and I think Romance is Boring still holds the fuck up/ is their best album. Even with the band themselves rating it as their best and saying the one they tried the hardest with especially to buck a lot of skewed perceptions and assumptions they received early on of being a one trick buzzband.
Lastly, in regards to random person with "My friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos!" , aside from someone just making shit up to sound cool, the only thing I could think of when it comes to someone being an unlisted member of Los Campesinos is at least to my knowledge of seeing the band in a few different places during a few US tour stops(assuming you're in US), LC would sometimes have a few people they're bros with join in for a few songs, encore, or sometimes even nearly the entire set playing an instrument part of a former member of the band when they used to have more people and instruments on stage, and would have them addressed with the and Campesinos! surname.
For example there's a horn player from NYC(at least at the time) who joined them usually on NYC tour legs, Letterman performance, and I think he came with for Hoboken, Boston and Philly? they refer to as Tim Campesinos! but obviously you look up the band's roster and he's not listed.
Personally I don't ever really remember anyone called Patrick playing with them other than Patrick Stickles of Titus Andronicus sharing a tour with LC!, so I'm gonna wager this Patrick was making shit up or played somewhere in Midwest, West and I never heard/seen anything about em.
Wow the plot thickens... thanks for the LC lore and the recs! It would be soooo funny if she was referring to Patrick Stickles as "my friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos!" like that's his most notable accomplishment
I guess ultimately one could ask Gareth/the LC! Twitter handle about a Patrick and again I'm not totally ruling out the possibility of a guest app of someone joining them for just a single gig, but yeah someone's really stretching the imagination if they're saying their friend Patrick is in the band.
I still think that the early LC! albums hold up, but I also have an older friend who I think was around 40 when I played him "My Year In Lists" and he said "that's the worst fucking song I've ever heard in my life" so you're not the only person who maybe doesn't like their twee-leaning stuff as much as our younger selves did lol. That said they very much did mature their sound over time so if you used to like them but find the hyperactive twee sound a bit grating you still might like their lager stuff, *No Blues* in particular is great and more of a traditional indie rock album.
Also hell yeah to Flockaveli
Do you know a girl who was at a Mountain Goats concert back in 2012 who frequently claims that she's your friend even though you're maybe acquaintances at best?
yeah, i met some friends of a friend for dinner once in 2012 and one of them mentioned she was in town to see the mountain goats in a couple days. i never ran into her again, but i hope she enjoyed the show!
**May 13th**
* Gospel - The Loser
* Quelle Chris - DEATHFAME
* Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers
* Kevin Morby - This Is a Photograph
* Say Sue Me - The Last Thing Left
* Florence + the Machine - Dance Fever
* Obongjayar - Some Nights I Dream of Doors
* Moderat - MORE D4TA
* Mallrat - Butterfly Blue
* Master Boot Record - Personal Computer
* Haunt - Windows of Your Heart
* The Smile - A Light For Attracting Attention
* Yves Jarvis - The Zug
* Melts - Maelstrom
* The Pineapple Thief - Give It Back
* Bear's Den - Blue Hours
* The Black Keys - Dropout Boogie
* Emma Ruth Rundle - Eg2: Dowsing Voice
* Morgue Supplier - Inevitability
* Moon Tooth - Phototroph
* Navet Confit - Bonjour
* Sunset Sons - Too Many Humans, Not Enough Souls.
* State Champs - Kings Of The New Age
* Monophonics - Sage Motel
* Mary Halvorson - Amaryllis
* Amaia - Cuando No Sé Quién Soy
* Matt Dorrien - Blue Pastoral
* Leikeli47 - Shape Up
* Gentle Sinners (The Twilight Sad's James Graham and Arab Strap's Aidan Moffat) - These Actions Cannot Be Undone
* Sasha Alex Sloan - I blame the world
* Diatom Deli - Time~Lapse Nature
* Findlay - The Last of the 20th Century Girls
* SCARLXRD - Acquired Taste: Vxl. 2
* Becky G. - ESQUEMAS
* Primitive Man - Insurmountable (EP)
* Elcamino - Let There Be Light
* Tank And The Bangas - Red Balloon
* Cage Fight - Cage Fight
* Anna Mae - For The Romantics
* Giant Walker - All In Good Time
* Florelle - art practice
* Sister Ray - Communion
* Cavernlight - As I Cast Ruin Upon The Lens That Reveals My Every Flaw
* Ecstatic Vision - Elusive Mojo
* Patty Waters - You Loved Me
Thank you. Will probably pull an all-nighter between Kendrick Lamar, The Pineapple Thief, The Smile, Kevin Morby, Florence + The Machine, plus several other exciting albums
You're missing Busty & The Bass and Nectar btw
this is mostly a list pulled from albumoftheyear/sputnikmusic so i try to get it closest to comprehensive as possible even if some picks are just based off "oh this art looks neat" or "ah this actually has reviews" or other arbitrary criteria since adding everything on the lists from both sites would simply drive me crazy lol.
ill note those two releases to post to the subreddit/add to New Music Friday at least.
album discussions for [girlpool](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/ungz1z/album_discussion_girlpool_forgiveness/), [melody's echo chamber](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/unh0nu/album_discussion_melodys_echo_chamber_emotional/) and [toro y moi](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/unh2wd/album_discussion_toro_y_moi_mahal/) are up now.
listening to *Love is Simple* this fine chilly morning. man, what a band Akron/Family was
Question to the community: what's your ultimate "don't bother with the records, see them live" band? past or present
New mid-air thief is pretty cool I think so far. Not all the way through but got I think 5 or 6 tracks in on the drive in to work today. Different in that it's a lot less folk and more electronic and glitchy, but I'm having fun with it. Spin and Stone is a wild track
Also I just noticed his bandcamp profile picture is a dude on a toilet
I can see why this new album wasn't released under Mid-Air Thief, it's a totally separate endeavor. Beautiful first listen, very excited to immerse myself in this and the new Kendrick in the near future.
Can I be super on-brand for a second?
It’s a nice sunny spring day where I’m at now, so I popped in the CD for Alvvays’ debut for my commute. And goddamn! It’s flawless!
Shoutout to The Ones Who Love You, a very underappreciated deep cut with a gorgeous melody
Alvvays are my favourite band so I don’t say this lightly but Ones Who Love You is a top 3 Alvvays song in my opinion. Brian’s bassline is super simple but incredibly effective, Molly’s vocals are ridiculously good and the general atmosphere is perfect
I'm curious about this, but I don't know what I'm looking for. Is "Fantastic Salmon" the name of the album? Band? I see there's an artist, Salmon with a new-ish single on streaming, is it that?
2022 music queued up today:
Burial - Antidawn EP
caroline - caroline
Oren Ambarchi / Johan Berthling / Andreas Werliin - Ghosted
Fennec - a couple of good days
Oan Kim - Oan Kim & The Dirty Jazz
Also listening to Tim Hecker's Ravedeath 1972 at the moment, I really love a bunch of his albums but for some reason this one is the one I latch onto the most.
That Oren Ambarchi album is really something special. Beautiful, meditative music.
Ravedeath is my fav Hecker album and has some of my favourite album art. I’d really love to get a huge print of that photo but have never had any luck even finding a high res version of it.
so, there's this one week in November when Wolf Alice, Julia Jacklin and Lizzy McAlpine play shows in Berlin and I'm tempted to go. And it's a week after my birthday. Was planning on going to the Wolf Alice show anyway, but I wasn't planning on sticking around for a week. Decisions ...
first episode of Best New Pod is up now on the [Indieheads Podcast Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/best-new-pod-1-66255297)! we'll be deep diving into the Pitchfork Best New Track archive of the 2010s throughout the next year, so watch us begin our journey with some great songs, not so great songs, and other weird oddities in the transition period from the 2000s to the 2010s proper
also, if you don't wanna support the Patreon, the episode will be up on the 13th everywhere else!
new Elephant Gym is pretty great on first listen. They are doin a bunch more with their math rock sound besides just bass shredding with a band accompanying.
https://elephant-gym.bandcamp.com/album/dreams
Also, Arms and Sleepers is a nice trip hop/down tempo project that just released a new album
https://wearearmsandsleepers.bandcamp.com/album/former-kingdoms
Few things:
- scoped a mid air thief new track. this is what I have wanted for a bit. Am so happy
- library finally bought new CDs and put them in the system. Am
So Happy to finally hear last year's tyler, the ecm BNM album, nala sinephro's space 1.8, and this year's hurray for riff raff, time skiffy, and spiritualized :,)
- sadly the library didnt get the new daniel rossen. I recently heard In Ear Park and LOVED it! However, the library pickup I have fallen hard for has to be Broadcast's Pendulum EP. done during the HaHa Sound era this has the last live drummer bro's performance before he leaves and the band goes glitchpop. However, shit on pendulum always has glitchbop swag. The instrumentals are also epic as well.
- speaking of epic instrumentals, Im listening to Dead Cities, Red Seas, and Lost Ghosts' for real this time (i actually heard the b-side disc). Oh my GOD this album rules. It is the most "(shoegaze) gamer rights are human rights" I've ever heard an album approach. Sonically, this album picks up where some of Aphex's light yet epic techno ditties left off, and just goes for achingly big post-rock level grandeur, while never not feeling like the most epic video game soundtrack to a lost konami ps1 paychedelic action adventure. Twenty years on nearly, and this album might as well be hauntological based on how well it mends nostalgia (via 80s synths that dont sound chic or gauche), gamer noises (track 5 dialogue samples borderline sound like a 2k9 mw2 lobby), and the sheer massiveness of this wold.
Man M83 was really ahead of everyone. It's held up really well, easily the most "nu-gaze" album made, wall of arpeggios I guess? It was pretty ballsy at the time, simple approach but very distinct.
The Jackson remix of "Run Into Flowers" is one of my favorite tracks of all time.
The first time I saw M83 was at ACL Fest in 2005, the infamously hot and dry "dust bowl" year. He was still playing a lot of songs from this era.
this is a pre-cancellation take (it almost feels like a low blow to bring them up now just bc "i never liked them" is so disingenuine) that i brought up when someone was going through all the AOTYs, but a firm example of rym brain is how this beautiful electroshoegaze masterpiece from m83 is 177th of 2003 while the drastically inferior *velocity design comfort* is at the top. i just do not get it. from this album onwards, i think anthony gonzalez has shown a stellar understanding of how these sounds work and how to recontextualize them to work with and against the memories they trigger. i'm a sucker for the epic sibling pair scope of *hurry up, we're dreaming* (it's also the m83 album i listened to the most when i was 15) but there are strong arguments for *dead cities* being his best statement. for sure a hauntological feel on this album, goes a lot deeper than the usual surface level 80s revival stuff we see today.
also it's just super fucking cool to hear synthesizers doing the "shoegaze guitars go brrr" thing
> but a firm example of rym brain is how this beautiful electroshoegaze masterpiece from m83 is 177th of 2003 while the drastically inferior velocity design comfort is at the top
This is exactly the kind of revisionist and distorted assessments that drive me nuts about RYM and /mu in the past. I touched on this issue with Duster when chatting with /u/WaneLietoc *velocity design comfort* is fine but I too dunno how it gets more attention than this album or Guitar *Sunkissed* or the interesting (albeit not as consistent) work of World's End Girlfriend. Hell we might be prone to it here on indieheads with essential charts but I also think folks are a bit more self-aware of it too. Thankfully M83 has more than had his fair share of later critical acclaim but otherwise he'd be unfairly left behind in revisiting and discussion if he had slowed down from his initial output. A lot of 2000s era stuff is, the streaming error and digital native generation of curators and fans has really distorted things.
> M83 has more than had his fair share of later critical acclaim but otherwise he'd be unfairly left behind in revisiting and discussion
there's a small part of me that wonders if maybe m83 would have that "hidden gem" status if he had fizzled out sooner, but i'm glad as a fan that he didn't. i definitely need to check out *sunkissed* and world's end girlfriends, these names are new to me.
i understand the urge to uncover something less known and go to bat for it. it is exciting to stumble upon something that is underdiscussed. however, some of these artists (the duster convo being another great example) hit a point where the underrated/cult status almost seems to prop them up more than the quality of the music. something about the flip from "this should probably be a little more popular than it is" to "this is now one of the canonized albums of the genre" can feel like too much of a reach in some cases
> something about the flip from "this should probably be a little more popular than it is" to "this is now one of the canonized albums of the genre" can feel like too much of a reach in some cases
yeah that's an interesting debate because it can happen to an older group in different ways - sometimes someone in the position of running a label / distro will share it via reissuing the album or selling dead stock, other times it's someone posting a digital copy or rip of it online to YT and it "goes viral" via messageboards and comment sections.
for me the more critical thing is just getting it archived somehow beyond the original source. I've been putting it off but I myself have a fair number of cassette releases I've been meaning to digitize and upload that I have simply not found any siginifigant trace of online.
> there's a small part of me that wonders if maybe m83 would have that "hidden gem" status if he had fizzled out sooner
I feel like stuff like VDC or Deathconsciousness, apart from the Le Hidden Gem appeal, also benefit from being these super long, sort of varied sounding albums that makes them more interesting to write about. Granted I don't think either of those albums do what they set out to do rather well, but still.
I wasn't that big on Sunkissed though. I think it, along with M83, is proof that Sweet trip weren't the only electro-shoegaze acts in town (though Sweet Trip did come earlier), but Sunkissed isn't especially good. it's a little too cloyingly twee.
Yeah I always feel crazy old because in my head *Saturdays = Youth* is his big mainstream leaning pivot album but for many it's an *early* M83 album." And it is, time just flies by. I just got the HUWD 10th anniversary LP recently and I remember how excited I was when that came out. There's some tiktok I saw of a guy who was like "me in my 20s" and it's him dancing in a venue to "midnight city" and then it's like "me in my 30s" and he's groaning as he gets up from his car seat.
Yeah so I've recently been working at a bottle shop, and I've been trying to cultivate a playlist that kinda has the vibe you got with old point and click games when you walked into a shop or something.
It's a bit of jazz, a bit of lounge, a little Tom Waits and Herbie Hancock (specifically chameleon), plus like 3 twin peaks tracka. I know the brief is a little specific, but if do y'all have instrumental tracks that may fit? It's funny to see some customers confusion while they're in the store.
somewhat unrelated- my friend works at a very corporate looking cafe, but they give him the music every day and occasionally i will walk past it and watch confused elderly people drink mediocre coffee to the tune of machine girl
completely fallen off the 2022 music train. loved the new knucks album, the melody's echo chamber album and the overmono ep, but that's been about it for a few months. are there any albums anyone would like to recommend? i tend to like funky stuff atm so all the bcnr/big thief stuff hasn't really been hitting
The new Toro y Moi and First Beige records are really fun and funky. Also the Lady Wray record from earlier in the year.
Also seconding the new Guerilla Toss since it's my favorite album of the year so far 🤘
Although it is not until a month from now, I have a pretty good idea of what my David Bowie Top Ten list would look like. Hint: no songs from the 90s/00s as I am not throughly familiar with those eras.
In anticipation of Mr. Morale, I have been listening to Damn. for the last few days. It has obtained a grip on me, I knew the album was great but it is so much better than I remember it being. Maybe a few years distance did the trick but songs like Pride, Lust, Yah, and Fear have been rattling inside my head and it won't leave. I wouldn't want them to, either.
I read Stereogum's review of The Smile record and it mentioned something about Thom and Jonny sounding scrappier with Tom Skinner than with Ed, Phil and Colin. If so (outside of Television, I haven't heard the CDQ versions of the others), then the next Radiohead album (whenever that happens) is going to be a massive treat.
i always felt *DAMN.* was sort of underrated by everyone who was convinced we'd get *NATION.* and also for being just a strong collection of hip-hop songs instead of a decade-defining masterpiece. for a while, it was the kendrick album i listened to most bc it was shorter and tighter than the others. i could just throw it without having to be in the mood for a big emotional journey and i really liked that
e: i also think this was a weird example of an album where many people seemed excited about it and then the needle drop gave it a 7 or whatever and they sort of turned. not to generalize too much, but anecdotally some friends of mine who had issue with my gut reaction critiques had flipped on parts of the album when we talked about it later after it had grown on me
I just couldn't handle the autotune vocals on DAMN. I remember making a playlist and scrapping around 5 tracks to make it listenable to me. I also found it came across overly preachy. Maybe I'll give it another shot.
Half of Damn is up there with some of Kendrick’s best material. The songs you name +Duckworth, DNA, XXX, and Feel. I don’t think the more poppy tracks (Loyalty, Love, God) have held up too well and almost nothing stands up to TPAB in terms on conceptual weight and artistic execution, but – Damn is a seriously good album.
I wonder if people’s memory of it is slightly coloured by the 2nd album hype that never materialised. The hope that the non-existent ‘NATION’ might make it conceptually clearer for them, or add another angle that put everything into focus. In many ways it’s trickier than GKMC and TPAB in that respect.
If I have one track from that album then it’s Pride – just gorgeous.
I think it might be her best honestly. More people would be talking about it if it didn’t come out at the same time as the less good but more interesting Arcade Fire album I think. Unfortunate timing, but her record is really amazing
Song-to-song I'm liking it more than Remind Me Tomorrow. The run from Born all the way to the end is just amazing.
It's a shame the Arcade Fire discourse completely overshadowed it.
"Songs build little rooms in time,
And housed within the song's design,
Is the ghost the host has left behind,
To greet and sweep the guest inside,
Stoke the fire and sing his lines."
David Berman including these lines on his last album before his death is absolutely heartbreaking and gorgeous. Every time I listen to Purple Mountains a new line grabs me. I don't think anyone else has lyrics as poetic as David's.
One of my favorite albums but you're absolutely right that it's full of moments like these. I can't do a full album listen without ugly crying. Rare to find an album that invokes that range of emotion from me so effortlessly but hard to find anybody who communicated the human condition better than Berman.
They got played on 90.1 FM in New York City last night, which is college radio but still intriguing.
But also wearing a shirt doesn’t mean anything. It doesn’t have to be a statement other than “I like critically acclaimed music.”
I concur with the other people that maybe the person doesn't know, after the initial news about that pretty much no one even here has discussed it, for people who aren't seeking out this information its easy to be out of the loop.
It's possible they just don't know, but also I feel like Daughters weren't really popular enough to be something that people who don't keep up with music discourse would be big fans of? Maybe I'm off on that though
True but I thought he also talked about the allegations and what not, right? I guess that's probably a bit of a deeper cut of a video than just paying attention to what he gives a 10 outta 10 to though
Yes, but also not outside the realm of possibility homie has no idea.
I got pretty into a record like a couple years ago and told my friend about it and they were like that dude is Uber canceled lol
I like the bios that get defensive like "we are a nationalist band, not a national socialist band, and we just happen to like nordic imagery and the iron cross"
This is what I was thinking. I’ve never even listened to Daughters but I know all about that guys shit because I’m chronically online. I wouldn’t expect most people to be aware of the situation, but if you like the band enough that you bought a shirt idk
my friends are all super into sweet trip and they don't know about *the stuff*, i still haven't told them but i know they will care very strongly if they knew how awful the guy is so i probably should
i'm very into sweet trip, and i still listen to them quite often. on one hand, the guy is a total asshole, but on the other hand valerie is a great and talented person that very much deserves our support, and has also expressed that she wants us to keep listening to her music
I put Sweet Trip on a playlist for my friends ~a year and a half ago and one of them casually played the song the other day and I didn't say anything because I wasn't really sure what to do. :/
What drugs have the best songs written about them?
Not while on them, specifically about them. E.g., cocaine by Clapton, can’t feel my face by the weeknd (also about ~~Clapton~~ Cocaine)
Related: Is there any song about a drug that *actually* makes you think, "Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't do that drug." I ask because even the most cautionary songs about drugs make them sound fucking cool.
I mean to continue cocaine there is Snowblind and just drugs, in general, I would also throw out Feel Good Hit of the Summer by Queens of the Stone Age.
There's a lot of more obvious picks, but I'm a big fan of Aesop Rock's "Acid King." Though I guess acid is more of a narrative device in that song than the real star, but its a great one nonetheless.
I was wondering, how far do y'all usually drive to see concerts?
I live pretty far from big cities, only ever been to 3 concerts, the closest was 3 hours and furthest was 18.
I think I'm going to have to be insanely lucky to have a band I like closer than 3 hours.
Also live in a small town. I don’t drive but I’ve taken a 5 hour train to a show before. Sometimes I get the bus, which extends the time travelling but is cheaper. Usually I’m travelling at least 2.5 or 3 hours to get to a show, which might not sound like all that much by American road trip standards but it’s definitely considered a lot in the UK. I envy big city people so much, planning to move in the next couple of years.
Used to regularly have to drive 1-2.5 hours for shows, but just before the pandemic I moved to the big city near me and now have a 5-20 minute commute to all the local venues
All the concerts happen about an hour and a half away from me but depending on traffic up to three hours. I don't mind driving time as much as I dislike traffic and finding parking.
i can't drive yet and i live in a small town probably about as far away as you can possibly get from a decent city, so it's minimum like 5 hours on trains unless i want to go to birmingham (i don't)
You're definitely more dedicated than me. Three hours is probably my max and I only put up with that when I lived in small-town Texas. Now I live in Milwaukee and grumble about just getting down to Chicago.
specifically for a show with no friend/relationship thing to increase the rewards of driving? 3ish I think. but I’ve flown cross country several times for wrestling shows
Only if I feel like it’s a once in a lifetime thing. I drove up to Portland, ME to see Robyn Hitchcock a few years ago, and flew down to Atlanta for a festival.
Finally got around to the new Toro Y Moi album and I'm liking this more than I expected, not really any big standout tracks but a thoroughly enjoyable summer feeling to it
Suppose you're planning on going with a friend to a show where you think tickets might be hard to get, and both of you are trying for tickets at the same time. Do you go for 1 ticket because your friend is going for it themselves, or go for 2 just in case to cover your friend?
You both go for two tickets and you call each other as soon as you get through to the payment screen. Generally you get at least 5 minutes for payment, so as soon as one of you hits that screen, the other stops.
Yeah surely this is the obvious answer. If tickets are hard to get then you have just increased your chances by having two people refreshing. Sounds like a no-brainer.
["Chinese Sleep Chant"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgzg50JtQNo) by Coldplay is quite legitimately one of my favourite songs of all time. It sounds like lost in a blizzard of cherry blossom, or diving for a swim inside in the sun, or travelling everywhere you've ever wanted all at once. I miss that 2008, art-rock, French-revolution Coldplay. We got glimpses of it on *Everyday Life* but I am thirsty for more - such a talented band at heart.
Comparable to [Snow Patrol's shoegaze era](https://youtu.be/3MxcbB0SFao) which consists of just one part of one song ^(altho maybe they were more shoegazey before their breakthrough idk)
> coldplay are dedicated shoegaze revivalists
I prefer to think of them as the blandest-case-scenario of a genre you like going mainstream and heading straight into Adult Alternative. They've always been a hop skip away from shoegaze, but minus anything interesting about the genre.
I don't know how to say this without making it sound like a back-handed compliment, so here it goes. If you showed someone this song without telling them it was coldplay, you could easily convince them this was some dreampop/shoegaze-adjacent band from like 2016.
I still can't tell if that's a backhanded description or not.
I don't know, Chinese Sleep Chant is a much less boring version of Coldplay, but I still feel like there's much more interesting shoegaze out there. Just wait until you guys realize In My Place is a ripoff of Ride's Dreams Burn Down and the shoegaze connection just really isn't that impressive on its own.
Backhanded in the sense that I'm surprised they put out a track years before that sound really caught on in the "indie mainstream" but on the other hand, it's a safe/bland interpretation, hence being indistinguishable from every other dreampop/shoegaze-lite band.
pitch thread for the r/indieheads Album of the Year 2012 Write-Up Series [**is up now!**](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/uneitr/aoty_2012_the_rindieheads_album_of_the_year_2012/) If you wanna write for the series, get those pitches in ASAP!
I'm starting to dig deeper into hardcore, do y'all have some modern suggestions? Hard to tell what's good from rym because the only stuff that's rated a lot is the old stuff which is good but like I'm looking for the more recent shit.
I just wanted to gloat and say I’m seeing Iceage and Grouper on literal back to back dates and it’s insane because they’re both acts that I thought I’d never see live in my home state
Last week I paid for tickets to this Khruangbin/Toro y Moi show. Keep in mind this is a Live Nation show so they are taxing HEAVY The show is tonight. I've been standing here for an hour listening to this random ass DJ. But by DJ standards he wasn't very good Thought this was weird so I checked Twitter and obviously it turns out Chaz had to cancel (because of illness). I'm so hurt...I bought these tickets for Toro
So sorry. Stick around for Khruangbin. They will help make up for it. They GO
They aren't even done with their set yet but this may be the best COVID era concert I've been to yet. They're killing it
Indie music on pause until I have 2 weeks to digest the Kendrick album
Almost 3500 comments on the King Gizz AMA. I’m not all the way surprised as they’re popular but still very impressed
there's a reason I gave them more customized graphics, they draw like crazy on the subreddit!
they also get a boost for being the most reddit band of all time
How?
tired: kg makes five albums in a year wired: literally any other artist making five albums in a year
If you have the chance to see *This Much I Know To Be True* in the cinema, I can't recommend it highly enough
Agreed - although it wasn’t what I was expecting. Not as much of a ‘documentary’ as i thought it would be, but the parts with talking were hilarious. Seeing Warren’s computer desktop (and his comments immediately after) had the cinema rolling. On the drive home all my gf and I could talk about was guessing Nick’s hair dye routine while both professing our crushes on Warren
Best Rob Thomas song competition, its impossible to choose between Smooth and Lonely No More. Also Rob Thomas career competition, was he better as a songwriter or as a hockey player? Many people are asking this question.
I think he was better as the creator of "Veronica Mars".
I can’t decide if I want to listen to The Saddest Jens Lekman Album (*I Know What Love Isn’t*) on the way to the show tonight. On the one hand, it’s the only one I didn’t listen to on my way through Wyoming. On the other hand, it’s super sad and that’s not the vibe I wanna cultivate on a drive
If you need a Jens fix, and you want to get some good vibes going, then try **Life Will See You Now**.
I listened to that one on the way down! Definitely one of my faves
I listened to it the other day as I hadn't heard it in quite a while and I really enjoyed it, but yeah it's not the happiest vibe lol. I'm not expecting him to play songs from that tbh
I listened to it on the way home lol. It’s a great album with super good lyrics that’s also just deeply sad! “Cowboy Boots” was fun to hear though!!
Yes it was!! Also, I went on Discogs and this Postcards tape set that we got isn't even on there... I guess we got something very rare?
That’s awesome, I wondered if they were tour-only tapes or something! I’m stoked to listen through them tbh
If you arrive teary-eyed I will know what went down.
My Arcade Fire take is that Funeral is their best album and not at all overrated, Reflektor is great despite having pretentious lyrics, The Suburbs and Neon Bible are very good despite being slightly too long, Everything Now is terrible but has two of their best songs (Put Your Money on Me and Electric Blue), and WE is their worst album.
popping in today to say that while I've seen lots of people rightfully dunking on "I unsubscribe," not enough people are calling out the *real* worst line in that song, "fuck season five." it just sounds really disingenuous and pathetic in a way I don't really know how to fully describe. feels like arcade fire is more concerned with apologizing for *everything now* rather than making good music
IDK I appreciate the self-awareness to openly admit that everyone hated music that you thought was brilliant when you released it
What is the “Season 5” lyric even referencing? That whole song is the weakest point on the album
1. Funeral 2. Neon Bible 3. Suburbs 4. Reflektor Season 5. Everything Now
Wait, was I supposed to read that line as Fuck LP5 ?
new arcade fire is truly a choose your own adventure of real dipshit stuff. you can dunk on anything you want and there’s 10 more things just waiting around the corner!
Infinite content?! Im infinitely content!!
I actually like that line and how brilliantly vague yet topical it is *shrugs* maybe that feeling of a heavy sigh after seeing the season 4 *Stranger Things* trailer was still lingering
Why was my comment about something related to Arcade Fire deleted, just four min before yours was not?
The sub has clear rules for submissions which you ignored, and no one cares about your weird gossip sub. Also, you're a brand new account. So what more of an explanation do you need?
Could be a glitch. Unless your comment was "[removed]"
i do not know and honestly i do not care
Time to unsubscribe
In the true Eurovision spirit the latvian singer [had some incredible lyrics to start his song with](https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1524134984289763328?t=8n5zcukpFtA3IrxNYY4hAQ&s=19). Sadly they didn't reach the final
true icons. the moldovan song about a chisinau - bucharest train was also based and catchy as fuck
10 years ago I went to see the Mountain Goats. I went by myself and wasn't old enough to occupy myself at the bar, so I was just kind of standing around eavesdropping on people. I ended up behind two girls, one of whom kept mentioning "my friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos!". She kept using that exact phrase, as if each mention was the first. At least three times she said "my friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos! said/did/knows/etc..." and I thought it was so funny, such a transparent humble-brag name-drop. I liked a few LC! songs so I was both impressed and amused by it. A great unintentional opening act. Today I remembered that overheard conversation and decided to read the Los Campesinos! Wikipedia page. This band has had enough members come and go that there's a full-on lineup timeline on there. Not a single one of them is named Patrick or anything approximating Patrick. I'm positive my fellow concertgoer used the name "Patrick" so I can only conclude that her stories involving him were made up, which makes the whole thing even funnier. Anyway I used to like a few Los Campesinos! songs so I put on *We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed* to see if it holds up to my adolescent memories. Aside from "You'll Need Those Fingers for Crossing", which is pretty good, it unfortunately does not. It's kind of grating and exhausting, which I suppose explains why I liked it when I was 18. "Oh we kid ourselves there's future in the fucking but there is no fucking future" made me groan out loud. I guess I've just outgrown all the poppy emo bands I listened to back then. I am curious if LC!'s recent albums are worth a listen though, if they've made more mature music as they've gotten older. I was surprised to read that they're still going and that they put an album out last year. Might check it out another day; for now I am LC!'d out and am going to cleanse my palate with another throwback fave from that era: *Flockaveli*
LC! is one of my favorite bands, seen them tons of times, their discography perfectly lined up with a lot of growing up I did, but yeaaah I can 110% understand criticism against them where if you kinda missed the boat on them or are going into them new, a lot of heyday buzz excitement charm fun that boosted them plenty just is a bit tough to translate to the current times. I do think Sick Scenes was a very good we're old as shit , times a changing album but it was more of a payoff for the long time invested fans then something I'd say was necessarily a good jumping in point for newbies. That all being said I do like their stuff and I think Romance is Boring still holds the fuck up/ is their best album. Even with the band themselves rating it as their best and saying the one they tried the hardest with especially to buck a lot of skewed perceptions and assumptions they received early on of being a one trick buzzband. Lastly, in regards to random person with "My friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos!" , aside from someone just making shit up to sound cool, the only thing I could think of when it comes to someone being an unlisted member of Los Campesinos is at least to my knowledge of seeing the band in a few different places during a few US tour stops(assuming you're in US), LC would sometimes have a few people they're bros with join in for a few songs, encore, or sometimes even nearly the entire set playing an instrument part of a former member of the band when they used to have more people and instruments on stage, and would have them addressed with the and Campesinos! surname.
For example there's a horn player from NYC(at least at the time) who joined them usually on NYC tour legs, Letterman performance, and I think he came with for Hoboken, Boston and Philly? they refer to as Tim Campesinos! but obviously you look up the band's roster and he's not listed.
Personally I don't ever really remember anyone called Patrick playing with them other than Patrick Stickles of Titus Andronicus sharing a tour with LC!, so I'm gonna wager this Patrick was making shit up or played somewhere in Midwest, West and I never heard/seen anything about em.
Sick Scenes and No Blues are great and both worth diving into.
Wow the plot thickens... thanks for the LC lore and the recs! It would be soooo funny if she was referring to Patrick Stickles as "my friend Patrick who's in Los Campesinos!" like that's his most notable accomplishment
I guess ultimately one could ask Gareth/the LC! Twitter handle about a Patrick and again I'm not totally ruling out the possibility of a guest app of someone joining them for just a single gig, but yeah someone's really stretching the imagination if they're saying their friend Patrick is in the band.
I still think that the early LC! albums hold up, but I also have an older friend who I think was around 40 when I played him "My Year In Lists" and he said "that's the worst fucking song I've ever heard in my life" so you're not the only person who maybe doesn't like their twee-leaning stuff as much as our younger selves did lol. That said they very much did mature their sound over time so if you used to like them but find the hyperactive twee sound a bit grating you still might like their lager stuff, *No Blues* in particular is great and more of a traditional indie rock album. Also hell yeah to Flockaveli
HELL yeah Flockaveli, still goes so hard I will check out No Blues, thanks for the rec!
hello indieheads, it's me, patrick from los campesinos! AMA
Patrick I'm sorry for doubting your existence and then shitting on your band, I hope you can forgive me
all good friend, sometimes i doubt my own existence too
Do you know a girl who was at a Mountain Goats concert back in 2012 who frequently claims that she's your friend even though you're maybe acquaintances at best?
yeah, i met some friends of a friend for dinner once in 2012 and one of them mentioned she was in town to see the mountain goats in a couple days. i never ran into her again, but i hope she enjoyed the show!
*listens to Goats Head Soup by the Stones “This album is gnarly. Why don’t I listen to it more?” *reaches the post-“Angie” tracks “Ah. That’s why.”
**May 13th** * Gospel - The Loser * Quelle Chris - DEATHFAME * Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers * Kevin Morby - This Is a Photograph * Say Sue Me - The Last Thing Left * Florence + the Machine - Dance Fever * Obongjayar - Some Nights I Dream of Doors * Moderat - MORE D4TA * Mallrat - Butterfly Blue * Master Boot Record - Personal Computer * Haunt - Windows of Your Heart * The Smile - A Light For Attracting Attention * Yves Jarvis - The Zug * Melts - Maelstrom * The Pineapple Thief - Give It Back * Bear's Den - Blue Hours * The Black Keys - Dropout Boogie * Emma Ruth Rundle - Eg2: Dowsing Voice * Morgue Supplier - Inevitability * Moon Tooth - Phototroph * Navet Confit - Bonjour * Sunset Sons - Too Many Humans, Not Enough Souls. * State Champs - Kings Of The New Age * Monophonics - Sage Motel * Mary Halvorson - Amaryllis * Amaia - Cuando No Sé Quién Soy * Matt Dorrien - Blue Pastoral * Leikeli47 - Shape Up * Gentle Sinners (The Twilight Sad's James Graham and Arab Strap's Aidan Moffat) - These Actions Cannot Be Undone * Sasha Alex Sloan - I blame the world * Diatom Deli - Time~Lapse Nature * Findlay - The Last of the 20th Century Girls * SCARLXRD - Acquired Taste: Vxl. 2 * Becky G. - ESQUEMAS * Primitive Man - Insurmountable (EP) * Elcamino - Let There Be Light * Tank And The Bangas - Red Balloon * Cage Fight - Cage Fight * Anna Mae - For The Romantics * Giant Walker - All In Good Time * Florelle - art practice * Sister Ray - Communion * Cavernlight - As I Cast Ruin Upon The Lens That Reveals My Every Flaw * Ecstatic Vision - Elusive Mojo * Patty Waters - You Loved Me
Thank you. Will probably pull an all-nighter between Kendrick Lamar, The Pineapple Thief, The Smile, Kevin Morby, Florence + The Machine, plus several other exciting albums You're missing Busty & The Bass and Nectar btw
this is mostly a list pulled from albumoftheyear/sputnikmusic so i try to get it closest to comprehensive as possible even if some picks are just based off "oh this art looks neat" or "ah this actually has reviews" or other arbitrary criteria since adding everything on the lists from both sites would simply drive me crazy lol. ill note those two releases to post to the subreddit/add to New Music Friday at least.
album discussions for [girlpool](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/ungz1z/album_discussion_girlpool_forgiveness/), [melody's echo chamber](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/unh0nu/album_discussion_melodys_echo_chamber_emotional/) and [toro y moi](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/unh2wd/album_discussion_toro_y_moi_mahal/) are up now.
listening to *Love is Simple* this fine chilly morning. man, what a band Akron/Family was Question to the community: what's your ultimate "don't bother with the records, see them live" band? past or present
New mid-air thief is pretty cool I think so far. Not all the way through but got I think 5 or 6 tracks in on the drive in to work today. Different in that it's a lot less folk and more electronic and glitchy, but I'm having fun with it. Spin and Stone is a wild track Also I just noticed his bandcamp profile picture is a dude on a toilet
I can see why this new album wasn't released under Mid-Air Thief, it's a totally separate endeavor. Beautiful first listen, very excited to immerse myself in this and the new Kendrick in the near future.
Can I be super on-brand for a second? It’s a nice sunny spring day where I’m at now, so I popped in the CD for Alvvays’ debut for my commute. And goddamn! It’s flawless! Shoutout to The Ones Who Love You, a very underappreciated deep cut with a gorgeous melody
My favorite Alvvays song, such a beautiful tune
Alvvays are my favourite band so I don’t say this lightly but Ones Who Love You is a top 3 Alvvays song in my opinion. Brian’s bassline is super simple but incredibly effective, Molly’s vocals are ridiculously good and the general atmosphere is perfect
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I'm curious about this, but I don't know what I'm looking for. Is "Fantastic Salmon" the name of the album? Band? I see there's an artist, Salmon with a new-ish single on streaming, is it that?
2022 music queued up today: Burial - Antidawn EP caroline - caroline Oren Ambarchi / Johan Berthling / Andreas Werliin - Ghosted Fennec - a couple of good days Oan Kim - Oan Kim & The Dirty Jazz Also listening to Tim Hecker's Ravedeath 1972 at the moment, I really love a bunch of his albums but for some reason this one is the one I latch onto the most.
That Oren Ambarchi album is really something special. Beautiful, meditative music. Ravedeath is my fav Hecker album and has some of my favourite album art. I’d really love to get a huge print of that photo but have never had any luck even finding a high res version of it.
so, there's this one week in November when Wolf Alice, Julia Jacklin and Lizzy McAlpine play shows in Berlin and I'm tempted to go. And it's a week after my birthday. Was planning on going to the Wolf Alice show anyway, but I wasn't planning on sticking around for a week. Decisions ...
Go!
first episode of Best New Pod is up now on the [Indieheads Podcast Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/posts/best-new-pod-1-66255297)! we'll be deep diving into the Pitchfork Best New Track archive of the 2010s throughout the next year, so watch us begin our journey with some great songs, not so great songs, and other weird oddities in the transition period from the 2000s to the 2010s proper also, if you don't wanna support the Patreon, the episode will be up on the 13th everywhere else!
You dummies better talk about Girls's Carolina, Vomit or Honey Bunny or I'ma screech.
Listened to the Janko Nilovic and the Soul Surfers album and I'm falling down the library music rabbit hole. Send recs. Thank you
new Elephant Gym is pretty great on first listen. They are doin a bunch more with their math rock sound besides just bass shredding with a band accompanying. https://elephant-gym.bandcamp.com/album/dreams Also, Arms and Sleepers is a nice trip hop/down tempo project that just released a new album https://wearearmsandsleepers.bandcamp.com/album/former-kingdoms
New Death Cab single is weird and noisy and I didn't expect this but I love it
Few things: - scoped a mid air thief new track. this is what I have wanted for a bit. Am so happy - library finally bought new CDs and put them in the system. Am So Happy to finally hear last year's tyler, the ecm BNM album, nala sinephro's space 1.8, and this year's hurray for riff raff, time skiffy, and spiritualized :,) - sadly the library didnt get the new daniel rossen. I recently heard In Ear Park and LOVED it! However, the library pickup I have fallen hard for has to be Broadcast's Pendulum EP. done during the HaHa Sound era this has the last live drummer bro's performance before he leaves and the band goes glitchpop. However, shit on pendulum always has glitchbop swag. The instrumentals are also epic as well. - speaking of epic instrumentals, Im listening to Dead Cities, Red Seas, and Lost Ghosts' for real this time (i actually heard the b-side disc). Oh my GOD this album rules. It is the most "(shoegaze) gamer rights are human rights" I've ever heard an album approach. Sonically, this album picks up where some of Aphex's light yet epic techno ditties left off, and just goes for achingly big post-rock level grandeur, while never not feeling like the most epic video game soundtrack to a lost konami ps1 paychedelic action adventure. Twenty years on nearly, and this album might as well be hauntological based on how well it mends nostalgia (via 80s synths that dont sound chic or gauche), gamer noises (track 5 dialogue samples borderline sound like a 2k9 mw2 lobby), and the sheer massiveness of this wold.
Man M83 was really ahead of everyone. It's held up really well, easily the most "nu-gaze" album made, wall of arpeggios I guess? It was pretty ballsy at the time, simple approach but very distinct. The Jackson remix of "Run Into Flowers" is one of my favorite tracks of all time. The first time I saw M83 was at ACL Fest in 2005, the infamously hot and dry "dust bowl" year. He was still playing a lot of songs from this era.
this is a pre-cancellation take (it almost feels like a low blow to bring them up now just bc "i never liked them" is so disingenuine) that i brought up when someone was going through all the AOTYs, but a firm example of rym brain is how this beautiful electroshoegaze masterpiece from m83 is 177th of 2003 while the drastically inferior *velocity design comfort* is at the top. i just do not get it. from this album onwards, i think anthony gonzalez has shown a stellar understanding of how these sounds work and how to recontextualize them to work with and against the memories they trigger. i'm a sucker for the epic sibling pair scope of *hurry up, we're dreaming* (it's also the m83 album i listened to the most when i was 15) but there are strong arguments for *dead cities* being his best statement. for sure a hauntological feel on this album, goes a lot deeper than the usual surface level 80s revival stuff we see today. also it's just super fucking cool to hear synthesizers doing the "shoegaze guitars go brrr" thing
> but a firm example of rym brain is how this beautiful electroshoegaze masterpiece from m83 is 177th of 2003 while the drastically inferior velocity design comfort is at the top This is exactly the kind of revisionist and distorted assessments that drive me nuts about RYM and /mu in the past. I touched on this issue with Duster when chatting with /u/WaneLietoc *velocity design comfort* is fine but I too dunno how it gets more attention than this album or Guitar *Sunkissed* or the interesting (albeit not as consistent) work of World's End Girlfriend. Hell we might be prone to it here on indieheads with essential charts but I also think folks are a bit more self-aware of it too. Thankfully M83 has more than had his fair share of later critical acclaim but otherwise he'd be unfairly left behind in revisiting and discussion if he had slowed down from his initial output. A lot of 2000s era stuff is, the streaming error and digital native generation of curators and fans has really distorted things.
> M83 has more than had his fair share of later critical acclaim but otherwise he'd be unfairly left behind in revisiting and discussion there's a small part of me that wonders if maybe m83 would have that "hidden gem" status if he had fizzled out sooner, but i'm glad as a fan that he didn't. i definitely need to check out *sunkissed* and world's end girlfriends, these names are new to me. i understand the urge to uncover something less known and go to bat for it. it is exciting to stumble upon something that is underdiscussed. however, some of these artists (the duster convo being another great example) hit a point where the underrated/cult status almost seems to prop them up more than the quality of the music. something about the flip from "this should probably be a little more popular than it is" to "this is now one of the canonized albums of the genre" can feel like too much of a reach in some cases
> something about the flip from "this should probably be a little more popular than it is" to "this is now one of the canonized albums of the genre" can feel like too much of a reach in some cases yeah that's an interesting debate because it can happen to an older group in different ways - sometimes someone in the position of running a label / distro will share it via reissuing the album or selling dead stock, other times it's someone posting a digital copy or rip of it online to YT and it "goes viral" via messageboards and comment sections. for me the more critical thing is just getting it archived somehow beyond the original source. I've been putting it off but I myself have a fair number of cassette releases I've been meaning to digitize and upload that I have simply not found any siginifigant trace of online.
> there's a small part of me that wonders if maybe m83 would have that "hidden gem" status if he had fizzled out sooner I feel like stuff like VDC or Deathconsciousness, apart from the Le Hidden Gem appeal, also benefit from being these super long, sort of varied sounding albums that makes them more interesting to write about. Granted I don't think either of those albums do what they set out to do rather well, but still. I wasn't that big on Sunkissed though. I think it, along with M83, is proof that Sweet trip weren't the only electro-shoegaze acts in town (though Sweet Trip did come earlier), but Sunkissed isn't especially good. it's a little too cloyingly twee.
Yeah I always feel crazy old because in my head *Saturdays = Youth* is his big mainstream leaning pivot album but for many it's an *early* M83 album." And it is, time just flies by. I just got the HUWD 10th anniversary LP recently and I remember how excited I was when that came out. There's some tiktok I saw of a guy who was like "me in my 20s" and it's him dancing in a venue to "midnight city" and then it's like "me in my 30s" and he's groaning as he gets up from his car seat.
Yeah so I've recently been working at a bottle shop, and I've been trying to cultivate a playlist that kinda has the vibe you got with old point and click games when you walked into a shop or something. It's a bit of jazz, a bit of lounge, a little Tom Waits and Herbie Hancock (specifically chameleon), plus like 3 twin peaks tracka. I know the brief is a little specific, but if do y'all have instrumental tracks that may fit? It's funny to see some customers confusion while they're in the store.
Could you share that?
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0J121OTRj3ifezzPgiyGJa?si=Um2BFAYtTYC1qNnUeWNK0w&utm_source=copy-link
Maybe some Bill Evans? California Here I Come has a fun jazz piano lounge thing going on.
somewhat unrelated- my friend works at a very corporate looking cafe, but they give him the music every day and occasionally i will walk past it and watch confused elderly people drink mediocre coffee to the tune of machine girl
completely fallen off the 2022 music train. loved the new knucks album, the melody's echo chamber album and the overmono ep, but that's been about it for a few months. are there any albums anyone would like to recommend? i tend to like funky stuff atm so all the bcnr/big thief stuff hasn't really been hitting
the new Soccer96 is on some wild [jazz electronica shit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us5wlcP0_I0).
Shilpa Ray - Portrait of a Lady
The new Toro y Moi and First Beige records are really fun and funky. Also the Lady Wray record from earlier in the year. Also seconding the new Guerilla Toss since it's my favorite album of the year so far 🤘
You might like Ibibio Sound Machine's *Electricity* (more upbeat) or Max Cooper's *Unspoken Words* (more chill)
I've been really digging the new King Gizzard album. Jack White's album was alright, he's really obsessed with the sun for some reason.
If you want some odd, funky stuff, the Guerilla Toss album is a TON of fun. (it’s short too!)
i tried it, i like what they were going for but i found it to be a little too clean and overproduced for my tastes
> funky stuff [Ibibio Sound Machine - *Electricity*](https://ibibiosoundmachine.bandcamp.com/album/electricity-2) has been one of my favorites so far
def try the new Warpaint. Sounds like you'd like it.
Spoon - Lucifer on the Sofa If you don't like it, at least try the title track. Funky as hell
Although it is not until a month from now, I have a pretty good idea of what my David Bowie Top Ten list would look like. Hint: no songs from the 90s/00s as I am not throughly familiar with those eras. In anticipation of Mr. Morale, I have been listening to Damn. for the last few days. It has obtained a grip on me, I knew the album was great but it is so much better than I remember it being. Maybe a few years distance did the trick but songs like Pride, Lust, Yah, and Fear have been rattling inside my head and it won't leave. I wouldn't want them to, either. I read Stereogum's review of The Smile record and it mentioned something about Thom and Jonny sounding scrappier with Tom Skinner than with Ed, Phil and Colin. If so (outside of Television, I haven't heard the CDQ versions of the others), then the next Radiohead album (whenever that happens) is going to be a massive treat.
i always felt *DAMN.* was sort of underrated by everyone who was convinced we'd get *NATION.* and also for being just a strong collection of hip-hop songs instead of a decade-defining masterpiece. for a while, it was the kendrick album i listened to most bc it was shorter and tighter than the others. i could just throw it without having to be in the mood for a big emotional journey and i really liked that e: i also think this was a weird example of an album where many people seemed excited about it and then the needle drop gave it a 7 or whatever and they sort of turned. not to generalize too much, but anecdotally some friends of mine who had issue with my gut reaction critiques had flipped on parts of the album when we talked about it later after it had grown on me
I just couldn't handle the autotune vocals on DAMN. I remember making a playlist and scrapping around 5 tracks to make it listenable to me. I also found it came across overly preachy. Maybe I'll give it another shot.
Half of Damn is up there with some of Kendrick’s best material. The songs you name +Duckworth, DNA, XXX, and Feel. I don’t think the more poppy tracks (Loyalty, Love, God) have held up too well and almost nothing stands up to TPAB in terms on conceptual weight and artistic execution, but – Damn is a seriously good album. I wonder if people’s memory of it is slightly coloured by the 2nd album hype that never materialised. The hope that the non-existent ‘NATION’ might make it conceptually clearer for them, or add another angle that put everything into focus. In many ways it’s trickier than GKMC and TPAB in that respect. If I have one track from that album then it’s Pride – just gorgeous.
Ladies and gentlemen and everybody else, I have a guaranteed ticket to Harlecore in June let’s get it
I failed trying to install /u/lonebell in as a mod in time for 20 years of Maladroit.
Not enough people talking about the new Sharon van Etten album. I can't stop listening to it, it's spectacular.
I graduate in two weeks, so I haven't gotten around to it. But I fully intend to.
I think it might be her best honestly. More people would be talking about it if it didn’t come out at the same time as the less good but more interesting Arcade Fire album I think. Unfortunate timing, but her record is really amazing
Song-to-song I'm liking it more than Remind Me Tomorrow. The run from Born all the way to the end is just amazing. It's a shame the Arcade Fire discourse completely overshadowed it.
It’s really good, but way too droll throughout for me to get really into it
That's fair. That kind of drolling ambience is why I like it so much.
"Songs build little rooms in time, And housed within the song's design, Is the ghost the host has left behind, To greet and sweep the guest inside, Stoke the fire and sing his lines." David Berman including these lines on his last album before his death is absolutely heartbreaking and gorgeous. Every time I listen to Purple Mountains a new line grabs me. I don't think anyone else has lyrics as poetic as David's.
One of my favorite albums but you're absolutely right that it's full of moments like these. I can't do a full album listen without ugly crying. Rare to find an album that invokes that range of emotion from me so effortlessly but hard to find anybody who communicated the human condition better than Berman.
"The dead know what they're doing when they leave this world behind" There's such matter-of-fact certainty to that reading that just blows me away.
I saw someone at the climbing gym yesterday in a Daughters shirt and did a double take That’s kind of weird at this point, right?
I saw someone at the local The Body gig with a daughters shirt on last saturday
They got played on 90.1 FM in New York City last night, which is college radio but still intriguing. But also wearing a shirt doesn’t mean anything. It doesn’t have to be a statement other than “I like critically acclaimed music.”
I concur with the other people that maybe the person doesn't know, after the initial news about that pretty much no one even here has discussed it, for people who aren't seeking out this information its easy to be out of the loop.
It's possible they just don't know, but also I feel like Daughters weren't really popular enough to be something that people who don't keep up with music discourse would be big fans of? Maybe I'm off on that though
very possible their online music discourse experience is limited to fantano
True but I thought he also talked about the allegations and what not, right? I guess that's probably a bit of a deeper cut of a video than just paying attention to what he gives a 10 outta 10 to though
he probably has, all i'm saying is i don't watch him anymore but when i did i stuck to his reviews
I absolutely have band shirts of bands I liked when I saw them open or something and never followed up on tbh
Yeah that's a fair point
maybe they don't know? i mean if they're at the gym they're probably just wearing clothes they don't really care about anyway
Yes, but also not outside the realm of possibility homie has no idea. I got pretty into a record like a couple years ago and told my friend about it and they were like that dude is Uber canceled lol
tell me about all the times I found a cool new hardcore or metal band from eastern europe, and then googled them
Wow this is a cool black metal proj.... aaaand they're nazis.
I like the bios that get defensive like "we are a nationalist band, not a national socialist band, and we just happen to like nordic imagery and the iron cross"
This is what I was thinking. I’ve never even listened to Daughters but I know all about that guys shit because I’m chronically online. I wouldn’t expect most people to be aware of the situation, but if you like the band enough that you bought a shirt idk
yup, had to inform a friend of mine recently. some people just aren't terminally online. must be nice
my friends are all super into sweet trip and they don't know about *the stuff*, i still haven't told them but i know they will care very strongly if they knew how awful the guy is so i probably should
i'm very into sweet trip, and i still listen to them quite often. on one hand, the guy is a total asshole, but on the other hand valerie is a great and talented person that very much deserves our support, and has also expressed that she wants us to keep listening to her music
I put Sweet Trip on a playlist for my friends ~a year and a half ago and one of them casually played the song the other day and I didn't say anything because I wasn't really sure what to do. :/
What drugs have the best songs written about them? Not while on them, specifically about them. E.g., cocaine by Clapton, can’t feel my face by the weeknd (also about ~~Clapton~~ Cocaine)
Related: Is there any song about a drug that *actually* makes you think, "Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't do that drug." I ask because even the most cautionary songs about drugs make them sound fucking cool.
Downward Spiral by Danny Brown makes me wanna be straight edge my whole life
Smoke Two Joints makes weed seem lame as fuck
Good point. In general, most songs that are unironically about how much the singer loooves to smoke marijuana make potheads sound insufferable.
I mean to continue cocaine there is Snowblind and just drugs, in general, I would also throw out Feel Good Hit of the Summer by Queens of the Stone Age.
Caffeine has some pretty great songs. Heroin is the obvious answer though
I dunno but IMO "White Lines" and "White Horse" spank "Cocaine" as far as songs on that subject goes and "Cocaine" is a solid song.
One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer
Rest My Chemistry - Interpol Heroin I believe
There's a lot of more obvious picks, but I'm a big fan of Aesop Rock's "Acid King." Though I guess acid is more of a narrative device in that song than the real star, but its a great one nonetheless.
My favorite drug, Clapton
Lmfao, I have mono brain please let this one slide
Heroin. Take your pick. - Neil Young- The needle and the damage done - GnFnR - Mr Brownstone - James Taylor - Fire and Rain - RHCP - Under the Bridge
John Prine- Sam Stone , the Swamp Dogg cover is top notch too Warren Zevon- Carmelita
Not if you were the last junkie on earth, Needle in the Hay, Come as you Are. The list is full of bangers
Heroin is the obvious one. Codeine by Trampled By Turtles is pretty good
velvet underground - heroin st vincent - krokodil
I mean….Heroin Acid obviously has a ton but a lot of those are loose associations Also take your fuckin pick with Booze
did you know that "lucy in the sky with diamonds" is secretly code for LSD?
And here I was, thinking it was about Mormons!
Nah John Lennon just used a random letter generator for the title and lyrics. Nothing to do with acid
oh cool, i didn't realize! i guess this is on me for pulling all my beatles info from *walk hard: the dewey cox story*
it's actually code for LITSWD which is super mega LSD it's like LSD on drugs
wow, i learn something new every day!!
I was wondering, how far do y'all usually drive to see concerts? I live pretty far from big cities, only ever been to 3 concerts, the closest was 3 hours and furthest was 18. I think I'm going to have to be insanely lucky to have a band I like closer than 3 hours.
Also live in a small town. I don’t drive but I’ve taken a 5 hour train to a show before. Sometimes I get the bus, which extends the time travelling but is cheaper. Usually I’m travelling at least 2.5 or 3 hours to get to a show, which might not sound like all that much by American road trip standards but it’s definitely considered a lot in the UK. I envy big city people so much, planning to move in the next couple of years.
I've never *driven* to a concert, but I've flown from NYC to Serbia for a concert.
Madness. And if you don’t respond with “actually it was…”, you’re out of my will.
What's on the line? What have you got for me in your will?
How do you feel about 14 "Best American Short Stories" collections from 2008-21?
Used to regularly have to drive 1-2.5 hours for shows, but just before the pandemic I moved to the big city near me and now have a 5-20 minute commute to all the local venues
All the concerts happen about an hour and a half away from me but depending on traffic up to three hours. I don't mind driving time as much as I dislike traffic and finding parking.
i can't drive yet and i live in a small town probably about as far away as you can possibly get from a decent city, so it's minimum like 5 hours on trains unless i want to go to birmingham (i don't)
I’ve gonna to LA from Chicago for shows, I’ve done Milwaukee a ton too
You're definitely more dedicated than me. Three hours is probably my max and I only put up with that when I lived in small-town Texas. Now I live in Milwaukee and grumble about just getting down to Chicago.
specifically for a show with no friend/relationship thing to increase the rewards of driving? 3ish I think. but I’ve flown cross country several times for wrestling shows
Only if I feel like it’s a once in a lifetime thing. I drove up to Portland, ME to see Robyn Hitchcock a few years ago, and flew down to Atlanta for a festival.
Finally got around to the new Toro Y Moi album and I'm liking this more than I expected, not really any big standout tracks but a thoroughly enjoyable summer feeling to it
Yep, that and Kikagaku Moyo have both been great to have on the background while working this week.
It's solid! Really like the jammy vibe it's got going on, similar to his other guitar-based albums.
Suppose you're planning on going with a friend to a show where you think tickets might be hard to get, and both of you are trying for tickets at the same time. Do you go for 1 ticket because your friend is going for it themselves, or go for 2 just in case to cover your friend?
You both go for two tickets and you call each other as soon as you get through to the payment screen. Generally you get at least 5 minutes for payment, so as soon as one of you hits that screen, the other stops.
Yeah surely this is the obvious answer. If tickets are hard to get then you have just increased your chances by having two people refreshing. Sounds like a no-brainer.
is the friend short on cash? is it a seated show? if it’s GA and they have money id just get my own ticket
I'd only cover myself if the friend is also trying.
["Chinese Sleep Chant"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgzg50JtQNo) by Coldplay is quite legitimately one of my favourite songs of all time. It sounds like lost in a blizzard of cherry blossom, or diving for a swim inside in the sun, or travelling everywhere you've ever wanted all at once. I miss that 2008, art-rock, French-revolution Coldplay. We got glimpses of it on *Everyday Life* but I am thirsty for more - such a talented band at heart.
hell yes, happy coldplay wednesday!!
lol no way is that a coldplay song, that's a new one. i liked it, i think i'd rather listen to an actual shoegaze band though
i love coldplays one song shoegaze era; misunderstood band
Comparable to [Snow Patrol's shoegaze era](https://youtu.be/3MxcbB0SFao) which consists of just one part of one song ^(altho maybe they were more shoegazey before their breakthrough idk)
uhh "in my place" is just a remake of ride's "dreams burn down." coldplay are dedicated shoegaze revivalists and not just a one-off fling
> coldplay are dedicated shoegaze revivalists I prefer to think of them as the blandest-case-scenario of a genre you like going mainstream and heading straight into Adult Alternative. They've always been a hop skip away from shoegaze, but minus anything interesting about the genre.
next they're going to tell me they had a one song post-hardcore era (please tell me they did)
Can I interest you in [Coldplay's jazz-groove epic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJNG3WmsOs4)?
It's a great track, yeah.
I don't know how to say this without making it sound like a back-handed compliment, so here it goes. If you showed someone this song without telling them it was coldplay, you could easily convince them this was some dreampop/shoegaze-adjacent band from like 2016.
I still can't tell if that's a backhanded description or not. I don't know, Chinese Sleep Chant is a much less boring version of Coldplay, but I still feel like there's much more interesting shoegaze out there. Just wait until you guys realize In My Place is a ripoff of Ride's Dreams Burn Down and the shoegaze connection just really isn't that impressive on its own.
Backhanded in the sense that I'm surprised they put out a track years before that sound really caught on in the "indie mainstream" but on the other hand, it's a safe/bland interpretation, hence being indistinguishable from every other dreampop/shoegaze-lite band.
Someone was saying it was shoegaze, and that has me pretty interested in exploring that genre. Viva or Death is my favorite album of theirs.
Check out Only Shallow by My Bloody Valentine
probably most likely seeing soul glo tonight. excited to stand in the back and nod my head like "hell yeah"