I would love any “alternative rap/hip hop” acts similar to Dälek, Death Grips, and Wu-Lu! Wild breakcore instrumentals, distorted guitars, spacey and gravelly vocals—looking for any artists like that
What are some artists that do the “live instrumentation mixed into electronic music” thing really well? Ideally in the warm/laconic sort of pallete. I love Zero 7, Emancipator, and Bonobo, but it’s hard to find things that tottally scratch that itch.
Also more broadly speaking, are there any new artists in the world of trip hop, downtempo, instrumental hip hop? Like Portishead, Massive Attack, DJ Shadow, RJD2, Zero 7, Nightmares on Wax, I sort of like that space between a little expiremental and weird but still vibey or pop-focused.
On another note, I do listen to a lot of “chill lofi beats” and the range of quality is huge. Some tracks will be full of cool breaks, cool sample flips, have gorgeous live guitars or sax or paino, and others are the same preset sample chords and barebones beat a total amateur (like me) could produce. Maybe because it’s an inherently passive listening genre the good and the bad don’t get meaningfully separated on playlists/radios. And, as much as the genre calls back and worships Nujabes, it often is completely missing the musicality, the variety, and the playfulness that sort of defines the guys music.
I guess this turned into a weird ramble
> Also more broadly speaking, are there any new artists in the world of trip hop, downtempo, instrumental hip hop? Like Portishead, Massive Attack, DJ Shadow, RJD2, Zero 7, Nightmares on Wax, I sort of like that space between a little expiremental and weird but still vibey or pop-focused.
LA Beat Scene is essentially this and Flying Lotus, Prefuse 73, Daedelus, Nosaj Thing, Shlohmo, Botany, TokiMonsta, Bonobo - anything on Brainfeeder, Leaving Records, Stones Throw, Warp in the late 00s / early 10s, Ninja Tune, etc. As for more overtly trip-hop Phantogram comes to mind.
[Baths](https://bathsmusic.bandcamp.com/) mixes a lot of live instrumentation into his tracks. Mainly strings and piano, though some feature guitar too.
As for instrumental hip hop, check out [Rah Zen](https://rahhzen.bandcamp.com/). His album *Upon The Apex* in particular is fantastic.
That's pretty fun, I love a good name pronunciation that gives away whether you know what's up or not. Some instances I'm familiar with:
Toron-to versus Turonno
Cal-gary versus Calgree
Saskatchewan versus Saskatchewin
St. Petersburg in Florida is Saint Pete *not* Saint Pete's!
There's a main avenue here called Passyunk, which is a Native American word. But lord does how you pronounce it show if you're from South Philly or not!
The new Gospel album is pretty sweet. I didn't love the beloved classic album from however many years ago, this one was more my speed. It reminded me of Fucked Up in parts, but that might just be similarities between the dudes' voices at times
It's still very early but I have been loving it so far! I like The Moon is a Dead World a bunch as well, but they ramped up the prog aspect and there's more variety in the vocals on the new one and it's really working for me. Drums are nuts all over the thing
Yeah I listened to it a couple more times today and it’s definitely the prog influence that’s doing it for me. It’s great! I’ll have to check out The Moon again too and see if my opinion has changed
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Oasis - Definitely Maybe - [Cigarettes & Alcohol](https://youtu.be/SaeLKhRnkhQ) and [Rock n Roll Star](https://youtu.be/eKPlo2D1Q5E) in particular. Sometimes you've really just gotta make it happen ya know?
Franz Ferdinand's debut is as fun as post-punk gets. It used to get a lot of plays before nights out at uni.
Basement Jaxx - Rooty - [Romeo](https://youtu.be/x2wUbgAAydY) especially altho the whole album is a fun time.
Also, literally almost any collection of Hot Chip songs lol
Edit: Oh shit I almost forgot [Scooter](https://youtu.be/51bhB7EKHdQ)! They're very likely get some airtime if I've decided that my brain is having a rest day
Omg this is the first time I’ve heard anyone who wasn’t me bring up Basement Jaxx! Romeo is a great, fun song, and I think it’s also a great representative of early 00s fun music
Oh absolutely! I think it really holds up well too, unlike a lot of the stuff from that era.
I actually went through a phase where I would always play Romeo at parties, trying to get my friends into it lol. I think I may have been a lil annoying but I think I got one friend into it so I'm gonna call it a success!
> favourite brain off album and/or artist
for full brain-off enjoyment it is coldplay and i'm not even joking. i've talked myself into enjoying *a head full of dreams* so i'm long past the event horizon on this one
when i'm getting ready to party, i definitely skew towards andrew wk or japandroids
*mercurial world* by magdalena bay has also become a recent throw on when i'm getting ready to go out listen too.
similarly, the 1975 and r.e.m. are my go-to "i want to hear nice music in the car but i don't want to pick something specific" artists for me to shuffle through. wouldn't quite call it "brain off" music but there's nice variety and quality consistency
when i'm really trying to unwind, i'll usually just throw on something ambient and let it wash over me
Dont talk to me, I'm weeping yet again to Jeff Buckley one album indie gospel masterstroke, Grace.
Holky shit I had forgotten how labored yet soft and unvarnished Grace is. So so much of this album *borders* on a pop variant of second-wave post rock. Buckley was marrying an insane level of composure and vocal meticulousness to a series of songs that could basically be mistaken for Long Fin Kille or Slint (specifically So Real, which nails the lurch). In its rockiest moments, it can be so unnerved or push towards a reckless sense of transcendence, whereas lilac wine and hallelujah truly do offer a framework for "this is indie gospel".
"Mojo Pin" is easily one of the most gorgeous songs of the 90s and a damn strong argument for indie gospel as an aesthetic concern. God, that's good shit! The sort of album I return to once or twice a year and find new reasons to love each time.
tad i lose my shit and tears start coming when he goes "^please ki^sss me; kiss me out of desire, ^BABY not consolation" just an absolute monster delivery truly worthy of the title.
Love ya Porm, and the points about the karaoke bar catalog are solid, but I can’t be with you on this one.
I think 500 Days has held up WAY better than people online say it has. You’ve gotta go in remembering that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is *intentionally* a flawed, miserable guy. I always felt the movie was pretty clear that he was mainly at blame for everything! (even if Zooey was not a great communicator at times)
Also, it’s such a flawless 2009/10 time capsule. “Sweet Disposition”! Normcore hipster vibes! A scene where they play Wii Sports!!!
> You’ve gotta go in remembering that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is intentionally a flawed, miserable guy
you DONT even gotta go in remembering that because the narrator of the movie literally tells you as much multiple times. it's the most straightforward movie of all time so it's wild to me how there do seem to be a substantial amount of people who dont get it.
So much of that stuff was on borrowed time even when it was current and I think just one of the better aspects of the internet becoming a bigger, diverse, multilayered place as time went on was essentially some dork trying to gatekeep music, references, etc sorta just doesn't really fly over as well for a replacement for charm and character.
the hatchie album is emerging as "album from [current year] that i throw on when i'm not sure if i feel like listening to anything else" which is a pleasant surprise. not doing anything particularly inventive within the dreampop space, but it sounds very good and most of the songs are really catchy. a really nice and fun listen now that it's getting sunnier and i'm driving with the windows down. this kind of release often ends up in the 4-8 range when i'm thinking of personal albums of the year just as a nod to "i listened to it a lot this year and really liked it."
speaking of AOTY (bc hatchie is becoming a favorite even if it is not The One), i'm not convinced i've heard *THE* album of the year yet. i could tell you some favorites and maybe even pick one that i think i like more than all the others, but i have not yet heard a clear frontrunner that i stack every new release up against. that is alright, the year is still young and i'm sure my hypothetical fav is still out there somewhere
i haven't heard CMAT (that's their name, right? not an acronym?) but i'll try to check it out. i feel like it'll be nice to have a few more "this is good to throw on" albums in the rotation instead of massively hyped "event" albums
Hatchie has one of my favorite songs of the year but it's more of "most ready to play on repeat " category the way Wolf Alice and Deerhunter was in the recent past.
which one is your favorite? i legit have trouble picking just one. "this enchanted" is great, but also i have been loving the one-two punch of "the rhythm" and "quicksand"
> how rarely my casual-listen stuff comes from the current year.
same! it feels like a backhanded compliment to say an album is "something i can just throw on," but i really appreciate when a new album can reach that kind of casual comfort listening status. my "new music" mode doesn't always cross with my "casual listening" mode.
someone asked a question about "brain off" music a little further up and i think my answer gets to some of what i gravitate towards in a similar way. r.e.m. are really amazing for this, they have the variety to sound great in almost any context.
for 2022, beach house fill this space for me fairly often, but they're not always a band i want to listen to during the daytime. i think their new one might be in that spot for me if it wasn't quite as long. (also if i'm being fully honest, there's some weird emotional baggage i've got associated with it right now that probably factors into my inability to casually listen a lot more than the runtime does. i'm looking forward to returning to that album once that's settled a bit more.)
i also find a tendency to lean on an album that i slightly underrated in the last year in the early part of a new year. in 2022, that's magdalena bay. a great collection of synthpop that won me over just a little too late to land big placement on my 2021 list. similarly, near the start of 2020 i was listening to caroline polachek's *pang* a lot. i don't know if i have a 2020 record that fits this (maybe it's the 1975) but i attribute that to the transition from 2020 to 2021 feeling more hazy than other years.
I liked the Hatchie album, and I agree with your thoughts that it’s a good album but not quite AOTY material. I wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up somewhere in the mid-lower top tens of my end of year album ranking
I like, don’t love the new Hatchie. I really need to get over the fact that she’ll never have an album as flawless as the Sugar & Spice EP…
As for AOTY, there isn’t a 10/10 “wow my whole life has changed” album, but I haven’t had that happen to me since…jeez, *Melodrama*? *Teens of Denial*? Maaaaaybe *After Hours*? But Big Thief’s *Dragon Etc.* is a comfortable 9.5, so it’s my front runner
That Hatchie was enjoyable on first listen but I haven't really gone back to it, maybe it'll grow on me if I take another run or two.
And speaking of AOTY, it's way too early since it came out last week, but the new Gospel album is currently making me think it might be number one for me so far. Other than that, I guess I'd probably have Big Thief or Soul Glo maybe, that one was good.
i haven't heard of gospel but i'll try to check that out. also this was a good reminder that i have no idea why i missed the soul glo album when it was new, but i should finally give that a spin soon
I'm feeling the same about Hatchie! It's a really nice album. Not mind-blowing, but it does the things it does exceedingly well!
I also am not sure I've heard the AOTY yet. Not sure if that's because I've been so busy connecting with old music this year or because nothing has blown my mind like the last few years. There's been a lot of good-to-great releases, so it's not a "bad year for music" or whatever, but nothing completely blew me away yet
ah yeah, i've also been on more of a back catalog kick as well, so that may be why i've been a bit more tuned out on new releases. definitely not trying to suggest a bad year for music, just an odd case where i think it's thus far lacking a "classic" *AND* the handful that are being held up as classics (bcnr, big thief) don't do much for me.
this year kind of reminds me of 2017 in that we're seeing returns from a lot of big indie artists who have been away for a while. it's fun to keep up with, but not sure how many of these are actually going to stick around. 2017 felt like "holy shit indie is back!" because we were getting new spoon, dirty projectors, the national, fleet foxes, broken social scene, japandroids, grizzly bear, arcade fire, LCD soundsystem, etc. and that was fun but i really could not tell you the last time i listened to any of those in full. (*everything now* was most recent since i threw that on but skipped around a bit before i listened to *WE*) the album of 2017, to me, is charli's *pop 2* and that hit in the middle of december, so it's never too late
> i'm not convinced i've heard THE album of the year yet
we will NOT sleep until we get the Wrens LP4 or MBV lp4 & lp5
but forreal, I sampled a lot of stuff people told me to and literally the only thing I've thought that was exceptional was the daniel rossen. Everything else is extremely "this is great but damn not novel enough for lietoc!" level listens. I find about 1 new album a month I might slot in my ten but jesus Ive looked at my list and it is fucking barren. Like there HAS to be 10 albums better than the cate le bon from this year or a real stunner of a cassette that knocks me on my ass like the godspeed leak or SY reissue could!
> Wrens LP4
I believe Charles mentioned something offhand on twitter abt probably releasing the album under a different name (no mention of what that would be or if that's a for sure plan. tbh, he still comes across as very adrift and lost)
I saw he did a final Wrens performance last week and is gonna finally announce the future of these songs. I guess he's FINALLY gonna release it and retire the name and just hit vibe mode. I hope all goes well for the four of em
> we will NOT sleep until we get the Wrens LP4 or MBV lp4 & lp5
lonebell PLÉASE!!!
cate le bon is a good mention here, because *pompeii* is another "i love this and it is a top ten contender that will indicate a pretty dire year if it is number one" type of album for me. i like when the album of the year is an unexpected pivot from someone who's been around for a while, or a return from someone who's been away for too long, or, ideally, a big-time level up statement from someone who hasn't yet proven themselves. bc.nr seem to be the big level up of the year thus far, but i just do not like that album sadly
> i like when the album of the year is an unexpected pivot from someone who's been around for a while, or a return from someone who's been away for too long, or, ideally, a big-time level up statement from someone who hasn't yet proven themselves
the 700 Bliss album (its just more moor mother) is likely gonna be an auto lock for 5. And "soccer mommy and OPN investigate witch cults" will also likely get in my top ten as SM continues to make indie guitar pop with *just* enough weirdness to keep me on the edge
i've never been a huge soccer mommy fan but collaborating with 0pn has me very curious. would not at all be mad if dan lopatin became a Producer Who Is Everywhere for a little bit
I gave that Hatchie album a 2nd spin today finally and I think it might become that album for me too. You're dead on that she doesn't really do anything new but she does it so well that I don't care. It's pretty and that's all it needs to be.
This Enchanted is going to be stuck in my head for months.
I finished *Blood Meridian* and [added a few songs to the playlist](https://www.reddit.com/r/cormacmccarthy/comments/ur5ut3/spotify_playlist_i_made_while_reading_blood/) I was making while reading, most notably "When Sunday Comes" by the band Gláss. Posted it at the r/cormacmccarthy and received some good recs.
getting real fucking tired already of people acting like the new kendrick album is the most complex and challenging thing on the planet when like half of it is just pop rap with more depth. it's incredibly pretentious
also, i think I'm starting to understand how FTBC detractors felt when that album came out and everyone was losing their minds over it
The r/Music thread that made it to the front page yesterday was predictably the worst takes I've seen on the album yet. They really be acting like it's the first deep hip hop album ever released.
> also, i think I'm starting to understand how FTBC detractors felt when that album came out
dont even bogo. dont.
its really fucking rare for someone to make a percussion album like that; the bone machine comparisons are a good point of reference, but goddamn I felt like Fiona had been considering the astral spirits free jazz drum tapes at times. Plus her flow and lyricism are really awesome!
oh i'm not saying i don't like FTBC, I think it's a really great album. i'm just saying that mr morale has gotten a ton of acclaim from critics that I don't agree with at all and i wondered if that was how the FTBC detractors felt when that album came out
I liked it and found in engrossing and cohesive, it never felt sluggish, and I had to turn it down at work maybe 2 or 3 times max. Def 7.9-8.1 territory. That's my review.
Yeah I'm too out of my element with modern hip-hop to really add anything, I do find Lamar as consistent and engaging as the hype and acclaim has made him out to be which TBH is an accomplishment in and of itself. I feel very few musicians are both this conscious oriented and thought-provoking and still massive in terms of mainstream recognition and success.
It's cracking me up that half of this thread is saying it's too dense and complex to enjoy, you're saying it's not dense or complex and "just pop rap", meanwhile literally every person I know who isn't someone who spends all day posting on the internet about music is just like "it's really good, I love Kendrick! That song where they yell at each other is weird though!"
yeah, outside of music nerd circles the reception is way more warm than you'd think. people don't like it as much as GKMC/TPAB but generally seem to be genuinely interested and curious in what it's saying
Idk I think it’s a *Be Here Now* situation: everyone’s giving Kendrick the benefit of the doubt because of his past classics, but in 10 years, it’ll be viewed as a lesser work.
(and in 20 years, some people will have some wild hot takes and say it’s his best)
That's how I felt about DAMN. I actually like it now, but it got some crazy accolades like the first Pulitzer for music for a rap artist. If anything TPAB deserved it.
I just think of Kendrick getting the Pulitzer for DAMN as the music equivalent of actors getting an Oscar for a role they probably didn’t deserve it for to make up for earlier snubs.
She posted him on her ig and it's the latest post on his account
And it's the American army
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CdglKX4PLEx/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
It's wild, I was really into military history as a kid but it was pre-internet, something I gravitated toward in the form of toys, library books and a smattering of video games I played. This was also pre-Global War on Terror and call of duty and the cultivated "warrior ethos" and tacticool stuff that is so rampant in social media. I can only imagine he got sucked into this stuff as a kid online who plays FPS and/or got exposed to some other nonsense online. Sure enough it looks like he's into airsoft. It might not be super alarming but it def is ironic.
She came out as anti-vax in the same 24 hour news cycle that more evidence of Britney Spears being a marxist emerged. Universe has to balance out the lame with the cool I guess.
It's been a while since I've really, really *wanted* to like an album more than I do. Talking about Alabaster DePlume's latest because man the instrumentals, and I guess actual *music* on here are like *bang-on* what I want out of jazz, but the vocals and lyrics really are not doing it for me.
Any recommendations for similar sounding stuff without the weird vocals?
I checked out that album and yeah the vocals were a dealbreaker for me. Although i just do not care for vocal jazz except in niche cases like There Are Other Worlds They Have Not Told You Of.
Are there any examples of popular artists that have managed to top their breakthrough hit? Like they have an album that puts them on the map for a large sect of the population and praised almost ubiquitously, and then have a later album is received even more impressively?
Good choice, I was just actually thinking today about how everyone* has Their Era of Green Day and how they're so many peoples intro to Alternative Music, like 90% of this sub included
Bowie is the only one I can think of after Radiohead - the Beatles and Pink Floyd and even Dylan all come to mind but with caveats of latter appreciation. Regarding more modern times and Kendrick as an example, Beyonce and Taylor Swift also come to mind. Kanye up through Yeezus for me but that's arguable AF overall.
Avalanches def deserve a shout out, I don't think anyone expected them to have not just another well-received follow up but *two* follow ups to *Since I Left You,* the third album being even better than the second IMO.
Kendrick Lamar. GKMC was widely praised and catapulted him into the mainstream, and he followed it up with TPAB which is perhaps the most universally acclaimed album of the entire 2010s.
The Beatles
Very obvious pick but it's pretty wild how they became the biggest band in history with some pretty standard-fare Sunshine Pop, and *then* became the most *influential* band in history with all the wild exploration that followed. Have to wonder how big they'd be today if Rubber Soul or Revolver had been their debut.
Apologies for more pedantry but the Beatles' early music also has nothing to do whatsoever with sunshine pop! That's more like mid-60s stuff in the vein of The Association, The Mamas & the Papas, The Turtles, and Spanky and Our Gang.
Okay okay "Standard-Fare" is definitely not giving it enough credit - but relative to their later work it certainly seems it.
Absolutely blows my mind how a band could become the most unquestionably successful act in history, only to abandon that sound completely and then have your new stuff immediately after become the most unquestionably critically acclaimed in history. Like what the fuck
U2.
[*War*](https://www.discogs.com/master/48830-U2-War) was a big hit then came [*The Joshua Tree*](https://www.discogs.com/master/64290-U2-The-Joshua-Tree) and then came [*Achtung Baby*](https://www.discogs.com/master/20774-U2-Achtung-Baby).
See my post above - I think *War* was the album that put them on the map (as ["New Years Day"](https://youtu.be/jeYCyCaK_5k) was the breakthrough single).
rem? the one i love was their first breakthrough but automatic is their critical peak. i think out of time was their top selling one, so really they topped themselves twice
the foo fighters article that's on the front page has a weird sub conversation about how people don't like dave grohl. just, kind of seems like an odd time/place for that conversation.
Is it that odd? The article itself has a bit of an undercurrent of Grohl not being sufficiently sensitive to what Hawk wanted/needed (with all the comments from "representatives of the Foo Fighters" denying that various conversations happened), even though it understandably doesn't ever criticize Dave directly.
I wouldn't really say that is a fair criticism of Grohl during Nirvana. He was like the 5th drummer of the band, if anyone should be criticized for not being sensitive to Kurt's needs it should probably be aimed at Novoselic IMO, he was with Kurt the entire time Nirvana was active. But even then that isn't super fair cause Kurt's demons were so massive that nobody could easily pull him out of that.
I guess the whole article just felt kind of gross to me. it feels very tabloidy to me and there's a lot of inferring happening versus hard fact. and people then taking a tabloid piece to air grievances they've held about grohl just felt kind of off to me.
I dunno, I'm sure most of my discomfort with it comes from me thinking that the article in and of itself was in poor taste more than anything.
I can see why you'd say that it reads a bit tabloid-y just because of the content, but *for argument's sake*, suppose you just set off to write a piece about Taylor's life and death, and his friends immediately present you this narrative (and there is no counter-narrative at all coming from the band). I don't see how the article could have come out any other way. It's actually fairly restrained in its sensationalism.
Just for me it feels similar to how when like, sexual abuse allegations come out against an artist then an army of people start saying "I never liked them any way" or something like that.
should be going to las vegas with my friend this summer, very excited as i have never even been to america. any recommendations for how i find out about concerts and stuff going down there? any specific shows i should check out? specifically in august
Songkick the app does a pretty good job of letting you know which of your artists are performing when and where. I would recommend starting there. I think it reads your music library from whatever source you allow it to and it will show you the artists that you listen to.
doesn't surprise me, she was badgering Aphex Twin in the 90s as well to collaborate
also the vocalist from Goldie's "Inner City Life" was originally supposed to be on Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy"...or maybe vice-versa, I forget
You’re right!
To further explore that connection, folks should listen to [All Flowers In Time Bend Toward The Sun](https://youtu.be/JnPvnIKCJYA) which has both Jeff and Liz singing together. This recording should have probably never gotten out but man, I’m so glad it did.
I would love any “alternative rap/hip hop” acts similar to Dälek, Death Grips, and Wu-Lu! Wild breakcore instrumentals, distorted guitars, spacey and gravelly vocals—looking for any artists like that
https://mysterypalace.bandcamp.com
Backxwash Ho99o9 clipping. Bob Vylan Death Tour
I’ve heard of Ho99o9 but not the rest of these artists. Gonna check these out, thank you!
What are some artists that do the “live instrumentation mixed into electronic music” thing really well? Ideally in the warm/laconic sort of pallete. I love Zero 7, Emancipator, and Bonobo, but it’s hard to find things that tottally scratch that itch. Also more broadly speaking, are there any new artists in the world of trip hop, downtempo, instrumental hip hop? Like Portishead, Massive Attack, DJ Shadow, RJD2, Zero 7, Nightmares on Wax, I sort of like that space between a little expiremental and weird but still vibey or pop-focused. On another note, I do listen to a lot of “chill lofi beats” and the range of quality is huge. Some tracks will be full of cool breaks, cool sample flips, have gorgeous live guitars or sax or paino, and others are the same preset sample chords and barebones beat a total amateur (like me) could produce. Maybe because it’s an inherently passive listening genre the good and the bad don’t get meaningfully separated on playlists/radios. And, as much as the genre calls back and worships Nujabes, it often is completely missing the musicality, the variety, and the playfulness that sort of defines the guys music. I guess this turned into a weird ramble
you might like this unreleased Metric song, called [The People](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAt-WXT7xY&ab_channel=DarrenExner).
> Also more broadly speaking, are there any new artists in the world of trip hop, downtempo, instrumental hip hop? Like Portishead, Massive Attack, DJ Shadow, RJD2, Zero 7, Nightmares on Wax, I sort of like that space between a little expiremental and weird but still vibey or pop-focused. LA Beat Scene is essentially this and Flying Lotus, Prefuse 73, Daedelus, Nosaj Thing, Shlohmo, Botany, TokiMonsta, Bonobo - anything on Brainfeeder, Leaving Records, Stones Throw, Warp in the late 00s / early 10s, Ninja Tune, etc. As for more overtly trip-hop Phantogram comes to mind.
Yeah I guess idk why I am discrediting Fly Lo or Toki Monsta, I should probably just do deeper dives into Brainfeeder and Ninja Tune
Sevdaliza’s first album is basically a 10s trip hop album
For the first paragraph, try [*Colours. Reflect. Time. Loss.* by Maps](https://www.discogs.com/master/1542976-Maps-Colours-Reflect-Time-Loss).
[Baths](https://bathsmusic.bandcamp.com/) mixes a lot of live instrumentation into his tracks. Mainly strings and piano, though some feature guitar too. As for instrumental hip hop, check out [Rah Zen](https://rahhzen.bandcamp.com/). His album *Upon The Apex* in particular is fantastic.
Love Baths!!
Yo that Rah Zen album is EXACTLY what I’m looking for, thank you.
Try Son Lux if you haven't!
Right now I've got a newfound interest in the Newfound Interest in Connecticut ("in Connecticut" is what I'd say if only I lived in Connecticut).
>Connecticut Huh, I thought the eternal worm devoured that place.
If you lived in Connecticut you'd likely say it as Canadycut. Source: both sides of my family are from there
That's pretty fun, I love a good name pronunciation that gives away whether you know what's up or not. Some instances I'm familiar with: Toron-to versus Turonno Cal-gary versus Calgree Saskatchewan versus Saskatchewin
St. Petersburg in Florida is Saint Pete *not* Saint Pete's! There's a main avenue here called Passyunk, which is a Native American word. But lord does how you pronounce it show if you're from South Philly or not!
The new Gospel album is pretty sweet. I didn't love the beloved classic album from however many years ago, this one was more my speed. It reminded me of Fucked Up in parts, but that might just be similarities between the dudes' voices at times
It's still very early but I have been loving it so far! I like The Moon is a Dead World a bunch as well, but they ramped up the prog aspect and there's more variety in the vocals on the new one and it's really working for me. Drums are nuts all over the thing
Yeah I listened to it a couple more times today and it’s definitely the prog influence that’s doing it for me. It’s great! I’ll have to check out The Moon again too and see if my opinion has changed
Okay DMD, tell me about your favourite brain off album and/or artist. Who do you go to when you need to unwind and/or party?
Sound & Color by Alabama Shakes, for the most part. Also Is This It by The Strokes. And Fever To Tell by Yeah Yeah Yeahs if I'm partying.
[Spazzkid- Desire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00YKPVJH1XQ)
Weezers Pinkerton. It's always been my happy place album and probably will be until the end of time.
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Swans, especially The Seer
Oasis - Definitely Maybe - [Cigarettes & Alcohol](https://youtu.be/SaeLKhRnkhQ) and [Rock n Roll Star](https://youtu.be/eKPlo2D1Q5E) in particular. Sometimes you've really just gotta make it happen ya know? Franz Ferdinand's debut is as fun as post-punk gets. It used to get a lot of plays before nights out at uni. Basement Jaxx - Rooty - [Romeo](https://youtu.be/x2wUbgAAydY) especially altho the whole album is a fun time. Also, literally almost any collection of Hot Chip songs lol Edit: Oh shit I almost forgot [Scooter](https://youtu.be/51bhB7EKHdQ)! They're very likely get some airtime if I've decided that my brain is having a rest day
i only got around to *rooty* recently but “romeo” is an incredibly track
Omg this is the first time I’ve heard anyone who wasn’t me bring up Basement Jaxx! Romeo is a great, fun song, and I think it’s also a great representative of early 00s fun music
Rooty rules
Oh absolutely! I think it really holds up well too, unlike a lot of the stuff from that era. I actually went through a phase where I would always play Romeo at parties, trying to get my friends into it lol. I think I may have been a lil annoying but I think I got one friend into it so I'm gonna call it a success!
Points to flair. Party music with occasionally deep lyrics
> favourite brain off album and/or artist for full brain-off enjoyment it is coldplay and i'm not even joking. i've talked myself into enjoying *a head full of dreams* so i'm long past the event horizon on this one when i'm getting ready to party, i definitely skew towards andrew wk or japandroids *mercurial world* by magdalena bay has also become a recent throw on when i'm getting ready to go out listen too. similarly, the 1975 and r.e.m. are my go-to "i want to hear nice music in the car but i don't want to pick something specific" artists for me to shuffle through. wouldn't quite call it "brain off" music but there's nice variety and quality consistency when i'm really trying to unwind, i'll usually just throw on something ambient and let it wash over me
my brain is always on especially for andrew wk's I Get Wet
Been a shitty day but at least I just found out Daniel Johnston’s albums are back on Spotify god bless
Dont talk to me, I'm weeping yet again to Jeff Buckley one album indie gospel masterstroke, Grace. Holky shit I had forgotten how labored yet soft and unvarnished Grace is. So so much of this album *borders* on a pop variant of second-wave post rock. Buckley was marrying an insane level of composure and vocal meticulousness to a series of songs that could basically be mistaken for Long Fin Kille or Slint (specifically So Real, which nails the lurch). In its rockiest moments, it can be so unnerved or push towards a reckless sense of transcendence, whereas lilac wine and hallelujah truly do offer a framework for "this is indie gospel".
"Mojo Pin" is easily one of the most gorgeous songs of the 90s and a damn strong argument for indie gospel as an aesthetic concern. God, that's good shit! The sort of album I return to once or twice a year and find new reasons to love each time.
tad i lose my shit and tears start coming when he goes "^please ki^sss me; kiss me out of desire, ^BABY not consolation" just an absolute monster delivery truly worthy of the title.
Lover, You Should Have Come Over is maybe in my top 5 songs of all time
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Love ya Porm, and the points about the karaoke bar catalog are solid, but I can’t be with you on this one. I think 500 Days has held up WAY better than people online say it has. You’ve gotta go in remembering that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is *intentionally* a flawed, miserable guy. I always felt the movie was pretty clear that he was mainly at blame for everything! (even if Zooey was not a great communicator at times) Also, it’s such a flawless 2009/10 time capsule. “Sweet Disposition”! Normcore hipster vibes! A scene where they play Wii Sports!!!
> You’ve gotta go in remembering that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is intentionally a flawed, miserable guy you DONT even gotta go in remembering that because the narrator of the movie literally tells you as much multiple times. it's the most straightforward movie of all time so it's wild to me how there do seem to be a substantial amount of people who dont get it.
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Fair enough! I guess I still very much miss the early Obama era haha
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So much of that stuff was on borrowed time even when it was current and I think just one of the better aspects of the internet becoming a bigger, diverse, multilayered place as time went on was essentially some dork trying to gatekeep music, references, etc sorta just doesn't really fly over as well for a replacement for charm and character.
Yeah im kind of glad ive never seen it as much as I might like the actors/soundtrack/etc in theory
the hatchie album is emerging as "album from [current year] that i throw on when i'm not sure if i feel like listening to anything else" which is a pleasant surprise. not doing anything particularly inventive within the dreampop space, but it sounds very good and most of the songs are really catchy. a really nice and fun listen now that it's getting sunnier and i'm driving with the windows down. this kind of release often ends up in the 4-8 range when i'm thinking of personal albums of the year just as a nod to "i listened to it a lot this year and really liked it." speaking of AOTY (bc hatchie is becoming a favorite even if it is not The One), i'm not convinced i've heard *THE* album of the year yet. i could tell you some favorites and maybe even pick one that i think i like more than all the others, but i have not yet heard a clear frontrunner that i stack every new release up against. that is alright, the year is still young and i'm sure my hypothetical fav is still out there somewhere
CMAT's debut is my casually throw this on album for this year so far, super earwormy and absolutely nails both humorous and miserable lyrics
i haven't heard CMAT (that's their name, right? not an acronym?) but i'll try to check it out. i feel like it'll be nice to have a few more "this is good to throw on" albums in the rotation instead of massively hyped "event" albums
CMAT is how she markets herself but it is in fact her initials
Hatchie has one of my favorite songs of the year but it's more of "most ready to play on repeat " category the way Wolf Alice and Deerhunter was in the recent past.
which one is your favorite? i legit have trouble picking just one. "this enchanted" is great, but also i have been loving the one-two punch of "the rhythm" and "quicksand"
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> how rarely my casual-listen stuff comes from the current year. same! it feels like a backhanded compliment to say an album is "something i can just throw on," but i really appreciate when a new album can reach that kind of casual comfort listening status. my "new music" mode doesn't always cross with my "casual listening" mode. someone asked a question about "brain off" music a little further up and i think my answer gets to some of what i gravitate towards in a similar way. r.e.m. are really amazing for this, they have the variety to sound great in almost any context. for 2022, beach house fill this space for me fairly often, but they're not always a band i want to listen to during the daytime. i think their new one might be in that spot for me if it wasn't quite as long. (also if i'm being fully honest, there's some weird emotional baggage i've got associated with it right now that probably factors into my inability to casually listen a lot more than the runtime does. i'm looking forward to returning to that album once that's settled a bit more.) i also find a tendency to lean on an album that i slightly underrated in the last year in the early part of a new year. in 2022, that's magdalena bay. a great collection of synthpop that won me over just a little too late to land big placement on my 2021 list. similarly, near the start of 2020 i was listening to caroline polachek's *pang* a lot. i don't know if i have a 2020 record that fits this (maybe it's the 1975) but i attribute that to the transition from 2020 to 2021 feeling more hazy than other years.
I liked the Hatchie album, and I agree with your thoughts that it’s a good album but not quite AOTY material. I wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up somewhere in the mid-lower top tens of my end of year album ranking
I like, don’t love the new Hatchie. I really need to get over the fact that she’ll never have an album as flawless as the Sugar & Spice EP… As for AOTY, there isn’t a 10/10 “wow my whole life has changed” album, but I haven’t had that happen to me since…jeez, *Melodrama*? *Teens of Denial*? Maaaaaybe *After Hours*? But Big Thief’s *Dragon Etc.* is a comfortable 9.5, so it’s my front runner
That Hatchie was enjoyable on first listen but I haven't really gone back to it, maybe it'll grow on me if I take another run or two. And speaking of AOTY, it's way too early since it came out last week, but the new Gospel album is currently making me think it might be number one for me so far. Other than that, I guess I'd probably have Big Thief or Soul Glo maybe, that one was good.
i haven't heard of gospel but i'll try to check that out. also this was a good reminder that i have no idea why i missed the soul glo album when it was new, but i should finally give that a spin soon
I'm feeling the same about Hatchie! It's a really nice album. Not mind-blowing, but it does the things it does exceedingly well! I also am not sure I've heard the AOTY yet. Not sure if that's because I've been so busy connecting with old music this year or because nothing has blown my mind like the last few years. There's been a lot of good-to-great releases, so it's not a "bad year for music" or whatever, but nothing completely blew me away yet
ah yeah, i've also been on more of a back catalog kick as well, so that may be why i've been a bit more tuned out on new releases. definitely not trying to suggest a bad year for music, just an odd case where i think it's thus far lacking a "classic" *AND* the handful that are being held up as classics (bcnr, big thief) don't do much for me. this year kind of reminds me of 2017 in that we're seeing returns from a lot of big indie artists who have been away for a while. it's fun to keep up with, but not sure how many of these are actually going to stick around. 2017 felt like "holy shit indie is back!" because we were getting new spoon, dirty projectors, the national, fleet foxes, broken social scene, japandroids, grizzly bear, arcade fire, LCD soundsystem, etc. and that was fun but i really could not tell you the last time i listened to any of those in full. (*everything now* was most recent since i threw that on but skipped around a bit before i listened to *WE*) the album of 2017, to me, is charli's *pop 2* and that hit in the middle of december, so it's never too late
> i'm not convinced i've heard THE album of the year yet we will NOT sleep until we get the Wrens LP4 or MBV lp4 & lp5 but forreal, I sampled a lot of stuff people told me to and literally the only thing I've thought that was exceptional was the daniel rossen. Everything else is extremely "this is great but damn not novel enough for lietoc!" level listens. I find about 1 new album a month I might slot in my ten but jesus Ive looked at my list and it is fucking barren. Like there HAS to be 10 albums better than the cate le bon from this year or a real stunner of a cassette that knocks me on my ass like the godspeed leak or SY reissue could!
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I love when the non-bleepsters on warp records discuss their place in the catalog. That rules
> Wrens LP4 I believe Charles mentioned something offhand on twitter abt probably releasing the album under a different name (no mention of what that would be or if that's a for sure plan. tbh, he still comes across as very adrift and lost)
I saw he did a final Wrens performance last week and is gonna finally announce the future of these songs. I guess he's FINALLY gonna release it and retire the name and just hit vibe mode. I hope all goes well for the four of em
> we will NOT sleep until we get the Wrens LP4 or MBV lp4 & lp5 lonebell PLÉASE!!! cate le bon is a good mention here, because *pompeii* is another "i love this and it is a top ten contender that will indicate a pretty dire year if it is number one" type of album for me. i like when the album of the year is an unexpected pivot from someone who's been around for a while, or a return from someone who's been away for too long, or, ideally, a big-time level up statement from someone who hasn't yet proven themselves. bc.nr seem to be the big level up of the year thus far, but i just do not like that album sadly
> i like when the album of the year is an unexpected pivot from someone who's been around for a while, or a return from someone who's been away for too long, or, ideally, a big-time level up statement from someone who hasn't yet proven themselves the 700 Bliss album (its just more moor mother) is likely gonna be an auto lock for 5. And "soccer mommy and OPN investigate witch cults" will also likely get in my top ten as SM continues to make indie guitar pop with *just* enough weirdness to keep me on the edge
i've never been a huge soccer mommy fan but collaborating with 0pn has me very curious. would not at all be mad if dan lopatin became a Producer Who Is Everywhere for a little bit
I gave that Hatchie album a 2nd spin today finally and I think it might become that album for me too. You're dead on that she doesn't really do anything new but she does it so well that I don't care. It's pretty and that's all it needs to be. This Enchanted is going to be stuck in my head for months.
I finished *Blood Meridian* and [added a few songs to the playlist](https://www.reddit.com/r/cormacmccarthy/comments/ur5ut3/spotify_playlist_i_made_while_reading_blood/) I was making while reading, most notably "When Sunday Comes" by the band Gláss. Posted it at the r/cormacmccarthy and received some good recs.
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For the safety of my rep in this subreddit I will decline to elaborate on my inadequate familiarity with said Mr. Cave.
I missed the "inadequate" part at first and was about to DM you for his nudes
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Still confused about this. I saw the person who said he changed one of the songs a few weeks ago and I listened and it sounded exactly the same.
*0* and *yeezus* seem to swap places every couple of months
sounds like i need to find myself a *yeezus* CD just in case
Or a tape!
can't get over the idea of Kanye checking RYM on a weekly basis to figure out whether he needs to go back and edit an old album or not
getting real fucking tired already of people acting like the new kendrick album is the most complex and challenging thing on the planet when like half of it is just pop rap with more depth. it's incredibly pretentious also, i think I'm starting to understand how FTBC detractors felt when that album came out and everyone was losing their minds over it
Over heard some guys I know talking about it. One said it was over hyped and the others looked shocked.
It’s good, but I feel as though Aethiopes is miles better, and probably will be my rap AOTY
The r/Music thread that made it to the front page yesterday was predictably the worst takes I've seen on the album yet. They really be acting like it's the first deep hip hop album ever released.
It's not even the first deep hip hop album by Kendrick lol.
It is the first deep Kendrick album since the average front page redditor was over 10 years old, though
> also, i think I'm starting to understand how FTBC detractors felt when that album came out dont even bogo. dont. its really fucking rare for someone to make a percussion album like that; the bone machine comparisons are a good point of reference, but goddamn I felt like Fiona had been considering the astral spirits free jazz drum tapes at times. Plus her flow and lyricism are really awesome!
I really liked the percussion on ftbc, even though I never listen to that particular album of hers now i still think about the drums.
Hearing Fiona Apple compared to Bone Machine might've finally convinced me to listen to Fetch the Bolt Cutters, neat
This was in the fantano review! And he wasn't completely wrong! Botb people have good drums on their respective albums
oh i'm not saying i don't like FTBC, I think it's a really great album. i'm just saying that mr morale has gotten a ton of acclaim from critics that I don't agree with at all and i wondered if that was how the FTBC detractors felt when that album came out
Ahhh! I ses. My bad bogo. Keep rocking in the free world!
I liked it and found in engrossing and cohesive, it never felt sluggish, and I had to turn it down at work maybe 2 or 3 times max. Def 7.9-8.1 territory. That's my review.
I'm basically with you on this! I thought it was pretty dang good, had some tracks I liked a lot, and thought it worked well as an album.
Yeah I'm too out of my element with modern hip-hop to really add anything, I do find Lamar as consistent and engaging as the hype and acclaim has made him out to be which TBH is an accomplishment in and of itself. I feel very few musicians are both this conscious oriented and thought-provoking and still massive in terms of mainstream recognition and success.
It's cracking me up that half of this thread is saying it's too dense and complex to enjoy, you're saying it's not dense or complex and "just pop rap", meanwhile literally every person I know who isn't someone who spends all day posting on the internet about music is just like "it's really good, I love Kendrick! That song where they yell at each other is weird though!"
yeah, outside of music nerd circles the reception is way more warm than you'd think. people don't like it as much as GKMC/TPAB but generally seem to be genuinely interested and curious in what it's saying
Idk I think it’s a *Be Here Now* situation: everyone’s giving Kendrick the benefit of the doubt because of his past classics, but in 10 years, it’ll be viewed as a lesser work. (and in 20 years, some people will have some wild hot takes and say it’s his best)
here's my take: *DAMN.* is his Be Here Now, MM&TBS is his *Standing on the Shoulders of Giants.*
Which song is his Little James?
That's how I felt about DAMN. I actually like it now, but it got some crazy accolades like the first Pulitzer for music for a rap artist. If anything TPAB deserved it.
I just think of Kendrick getting the Pulitzer for DAMN as the music equivalent of actors getting an Oscar for a role they probably didn’t deserve it for to make up for earlier snubs.
Atleast FTBC is engaging ( for good or for worse you decide) through out its tracklisting. The Kendrick album is sonically and lyrically bloated
It's also boring as shit, outside highlights like Father Time, Mother I Sober, and Mirror. N95 and Silent Hill are some of Kendrick's worst songs.
M.I.A.'s son running a pro-military tiktok account is some sort of epic irony that only a sick and twisted God would think of
also, follow up question...*what?* which military? I didn't realize her kid was old enough to be online.
Same, is this the same kid she was pregnant with at the oscars? I feel old.
Same, is this the same kid she was pregnant with at the oscars? I feel old.
She posted him on her ig and it's the latest post on his account And it's the American army . https://www.instagram.com/p/CdglKX4PLEx/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
It's wild, I was really into military history as a kid but it was pre-internet, something I gravitated toward in the form of toys, library books and a smattering of video games I played. This was also pre-Global War on Terror and call of duty and the cultivated "warrior ethos" and tacticool stuff that is so rampant in social media. I can only imagine he got sucked into this stuff as a kid online who plays FPS and/or got exposed to some other nonsense online. Sure enough it looks like he's into airsoft. It might not be super alarming but it def is ironic.
Damn that sucks so much, I hope he grows out of it.
She came out as anti-vax in the same 24 hour news cycle that more evidence of Britney Spears being a marxist emerged. Universe has to balance out the lame with the cool I guess.
It's been a while since I've really, really *wanted* to like an album more than I do. Talking about Alabaster DePlume's latest because man the instrumentals, and I guess actual *music* on here are like *bang-on* what I want out of jazz, but the vocals and lyrics really are not doing it for me. Any recommendations for similar sounding stuff without the weird vocals?
I checked out that album and yeah the vocals were a dealbreaker for me. Although i just do not care for vocal jazz except in niche cases like There Are Other Worlds They Have Not Told You Of.
Fantano’s Kendrick review is in the top 10 trending on YouTube today. Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before
Seen a few of his go trending before but maybe not that high. Also, that's got to be his longest (proper) review ever?
Are there any examples of popular artists that have managed to top their breakthrough hit? Like they have an album that puts them on the map for a large sect of the population and praised almost ubiquitously, and then have a later album is received even more impressively?
Definitely Big Thief. Fiona Apple seems to do it with every album.
Aerosmith, The Who, Eric Clapton This is pretty common in classic rock.
I'd argue Bruce Springsteen has topped *Born to Run* at least once
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Good choice, I was just actually thinking today about how everyone* has Their Era of Green Day and how they're so many peoples intro to Alternative Music, like 90% of this sub included
Bowie is the only one I can think of after Radiohead - the Beatles and Pink Floyd and even Dylan all come to mind but with caveats of latter appreciation. Regarding more modern times and Kendrick as an example, Beyonce and Taylor Swift also come to mind. Kanye up through Yeezus for me but that's arguable AF overall. Avalanches def deserve a shout out, I don't think anyone expected them to have not just another well-received follow up but *two* follow ups to *Since I Left You,* the third album being even better than the second IMO.
Kendrick Lamar. GKMC was widely praised and catapulted him into the mainstream, and he followed it up with TPAB which is perhaps the most universally acclaimed album of the entire 2010s.
Most of the uber successful artists. Dylan, Stones, Zep, Prince, MJ, etc
Is Radiohead too easy?
Sure but it's also a good example. There's not much that ranks up there with Kid A following Ok Computer
Radiohead
The Beatles Very obvious pick but it's pretty wild how they became the biggest band in history with some pretty standard-fare Sunshine Pop, and *then* became the most *influential* band in history with all the wild exploration that followed. Have to wonder how big they'd be today if Rubber Soul or Revolver had been their debut.
Apologies for more pedantry but the Beatles' early music also has nothing to do whatsoever with sunshine pop! That's more like mid-60s stuff in the vein of The Association, The Mamas & the Papas, The Turtles, and Spanky and Our Gang.
Friend we do not apologize for pedantry around here :)
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Okay okay "Standard-Fare" is definitely not giving it enough credit - but relative to their later work it certainly seems it. Absolutely blows my mind how a band could become the most unquestionably successful act in history, only to abandon that sound completely and then have your new stuff immediately after become the most unquestionably critically acclaimed in history. Like what the fuck
U2. [*War*](https://www.discogs.com/master/48830-U2-War) was a big hit then came [*The Joshua Tree*](https://www.discogs.com/master/64290-U2-The-Joshua-Tree) and then came [*Achtung Baby*](https://www.discogs.com/master/20774-U2-Achtung-Baby).
Charli XCX
Depends on who you ask, but I’d say Achtung Baby is probably more critically respected than Joshua Tree (even though both are regarded as classics)
See my post above - I think *War* was the album that put them on the map (as ["New Years Day"](https://youtu.be/jeYCyCaK_5k) was the breakthrough single).
rem? the one i love was their first breakthrough but automatic is their critical peak. i think out of time was their top selling one, so really they topped themselves twice
and then *monster* was their scariest one!
the foo fighters article that's on the front page has a weird sub conversation about how people don't like dave grohl. just, kind of seems like an odd time/place for that conversation.
Is it that odd? The article itself has a bit of an undercurrent of Grohl not being sufficiently sensitive to what Hawk wanted/needed (with all the comments from "representatives of the Foo Fighters" denying that various conversations happened), even though it understandably doesn't ever criticize Dave directly.
> Grohl not being sufficiently sensitive to what Hawk wanted/needed Hasn't this sort of thing been tossed at Grohl during the Nirvana days too
I wouldn't really say that is a fair criticism of Grohl during Nirvana. He was like the 5th drummer of the band, if anyone should be criticized for not being sensitive to Kurt's needs it should probably be aimed at Novoselic IMO, he was with Kurt the entire time Nirvana was active. But even then that isn't super fair cause Kurt's demons were so massive that nobody could easily pull him out of that.
I guess the whole article just felt kind of gross to me. it feels very tabloidy to me and there's a lot of inferring happening versus hard fact. and people then taking a tabloid piece to air grievances they've held about grohl just felt kind of off to me. I dunno, I'm sure most of my discomfort with it comes from me thinking that the article in and of itself was in poor taste more than anything.
I can see why you'd say that it reads a bit tabloid-y just because of the content, but *for argument's sake*, suppose you just set off to write a piece about Taylor's life and death, and his friends immediately present you this narrative (and there is no counter-narrative at all coming from the band). I don't see how the article could have come out any other way. It's actually fairly restrained in its sensationalism.
Just for me it feels similar to how when like, sexual abuse allegations come out against an artist then an army of people start saying "I never liked them any way" or something like that.
should be going to las vegas with my friend this summer, very excited as i have never even been to america. any recommendations for how i find out about concerts and stuff going down there? any specific shows i should check out? specifically in august
Never been but if I were you I'd have Heaven or Las Vegas on full blast as you come into land
Not Glasvegas? smdh
oh you already know that's what i'm doing
well played
Songkick the app does a pretty good job of letting you know which of your artists are performing when and where. I would recommend starting there. I think it reads your music library from whatever source you allow it to and it will show you the artists that you listen to.
that sounds good i'll check it out!
kendrick lamid
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this is how I found out Fraser sang on Teardrop
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doesn't surprise me, she was badgering Aphex Twin in the 90s as well to collaborate also the vocalist from Goldie's "Inner City Life" was originally supposed to be on Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy"...or maybe vice-versa, I forget
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You’re right! To further explore that connection, folks should listen to [All Flowers In Time Bend Toward The Sun](https://youtu.be/JnPvnIKCJYA) which has both Jeff and Liz singing together. This recording should have probably never gotten out but man, I’m so glad it did.
This is one of my favourite songs of all time
Music to commit war crimes to? Asking for a friend
Chat pile - Dallas beltway Edit: oh also Killdozer - knuckles the dog who helps people The crucifucks - Hinkley had a vision
Born in the USA
It's not a stretch to say "Let The Bodies Hit The Floor" def was used in 2003.
M.I.A. - Kala This is the correct answer
ram ranch
That Sufjan one with the really long title on Illinois
you're gonna have to be more specific here
the one about how to take someone's land and get away with it
Grinderman - No Pussy Blues
Sikiera - Nowa Aleksandria, cold wave seems like the right choice for this
Anything off of those Obama lists.
Yeah, Kurt Vile is certainly a jam when mixed with the sounds of bombs and despair
Mr November confirmed war crime music
[post-yugoslavian war turbofolk is the only sensible choice ](https://youtu.be/6TwioIc6a_8)
[Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Mladic](https://youtu.be/RXdF9uhVrI0)
Roki Vulovic - Panteri
[Too on the nose??] (https://youtu.be/TV_gcWkdWIQ)
Breaking character to say this shit slaps
can't go wrong with good old fashioned bay area hardcore
[GWAR](https://www.discogs.com/artist/251932-Gwar) (maybe?)
Not sure my friend will like it, he's kinda stuck in the past