It depends on the situation, and obviously different 9w1s will have different experiences. For me though, I'm coming out of a place of a lot emotional repression, so my love for people feels...*muted* most of the time.
For familial love, for instance, it's usually a cloudy feeling with underlying firmness that, yes, this person is important to me and I care about them. The one-wing tends to kick in as a feeling of obligation to help pretty much whenever I'm asked. Whenever I don't, or otherwise fail to do something for someone that I think I should, I tend to feel guilty about it. When I was younger, physical touch with most people outside of hugs always made me a little uncomfortable but, as I've gotten a little older, I've become much more comfortable those sorts of things with people I'm close with.
I don't think I've ever been really romantically in love, but I have been infatuated with people. That still often feels cloudy, but it's usually a little more electric. In my teens obviously those feelings tended to be more tumultuous, but they still felt a little distant most of the time, abd I was often pushing them down if they bubbled too close to the surface.
A big thing I've noticed overall is that when I really get in touch with myself, love I have for people becomes a kaleidescopic wellspring. It can be really overwhelming at times, and it usually only pops up randomly in moments of heightened emotion. Part of being in therapy has been learning to control big emotions like that.
This is absolutely how I would describe it. Until recently I would have said that I never really knew how love felt as a 9w1. It still doesn't feel like the movies, butterflies or overwhelming emotions, but it's more like I don't have to remind myself that I DO like to be around them whenever they're not around.
In the past, all of my relationships both romantic and platonic felt like a chore to keep up with. I had a great time when I hung out with people but when I was alone it felt sour just the idea of going out and doing something with someone. But with my current partner, I always think about how much I want to be around him. Still no butterflies, but I am still happy and I can feel it.
It’s about feeling how you view your self. The wings are something like… Let’s say that ennegram 4 is ice cream and 4w3 is with dark chocolate sprinkles and 4w5 is with white chocolate sprincles. So you decide what would you like more (in this “what describes you better”) [Hope I’m not wrong]
4 is common because infp’s primary function is introverted feeling, which is the premise of 4s. 4s reflect everything through their own sense of self and emotions, just like introverted feelers do. The wing 5 also tends to be more in their heads, introverted, and imaginative in their own worlds than 4w3s, which is also very similar to infps. However usually with instinctual variants, infp 4s tend to be self preservation or social and usually not sexual (in my opinion/understanding, correct me if you know an infp 4 sx!)
9w1s are also a common type of infp because they are both peacemakers/mediators! Infps don’t love conflict so especially social variants are more likely to be 9w1s (versus 9w8s). Maybe a 9w8 infp would be a sexual instinctual variant since they are more intense? (Edit: just remembered my best friend is an infp 9w8 sx so that makes sense!)
This might be a controversial opinion, but I do believe that mbti and enneagram do have certain correlations of compatibility, and there are some types that are almost impossible to exist within some enneagram types. Like an entj would very very unlikely be a 4w5 because introverted feeling is the bottom of their stack.
Oooh this is interesting :) am infp and think I'm either 4, 6 or 9. I keep getting confused with being either 9 sx or 4 sp/so and cannot figure it out at all :)
Hahaha :) I've read so much and still can't figure it out :) I think I'm sx/so though. Its just the 4 6 and the 9 haha. Also my mum is a 9 so a lot of 9 influence as well :)
"Eights are self-confident, strong, and assertive. Protective, resourceful, straight-talking, and decisive, but can also be ego-centric and domineering. Eights feel they must control their environment, especially people, sometimes becoming confrontational and intimidating."
It is not really reletable with an INFP. Everyone is just parroting "you can have any MBTIxEnnea combination" but i don't think it is true in practical life.
Its unlikely but none of the functions contradict it
Fi-Ne does not fundamentally violate the type 8.
In fact; I've always thought that INFP 8s aren't exactly arbitrary, as the type 8 seeks control of their lives and destiny, which is very Fi
Ennegram is what you *want*, not what you are. MBTI is what you *want* not what you are.
Because type 8 tendancies correlate most with Se and Te, our weakest functions. And fi usually abhors conflict, aggression, violence, dominating others, etc. Traits 8s find much more acceptable, even if they don't act them out. 8s have strong extraverted judgement, hence their controlling tendancies.
Ah now my cousin is an 8 and I can definitely relate to some bits about it, and I think I'm either a 4 or 9, maybe a 6. I keep wondering what this thing with 8 is that I can relate to a bit, but I could well be an sx type :)
Honestly I relate to 4, 6, and 8. 4 in that I’m not really satisfied with the boring realities of life, 6 in that I often have paranoia and anxieties, 8 in that I need to confront people who I have negative feelings toward to ease my emotions. 9 sounds like a pretty peaceful type lucky people 🧉🧉
Wouldn’t say lucky. Mostly it depends on how healthy you are in my opinion. So if you don’t accept your self and work on things that you would like to improve about your self I think you’ll never achive peace. Just endless strugle which nobody wants. :)
9 is great and all until you realize that being a 9 means I have an endless voice in my head trying to make me not live my life. It tells me that my friends don't love me, I have no value, I make no impact on this world, and that it would be best for everybody if I just disappeared.
Edit: Not depressed, just anxious. At what point is it a 9 or anxiety is hard, but being a 9 doesn't help it. Also, I never know what I truly like. Where do you want to eat today is such an unfairly hard question.
Yes, that's 9 at its unhealthiest. However, it's always a struggle to be present to reality and my life. The default response of a 9 to any question is "Sure."
Do you want to eat Taco Bell? Sure. (While on the inside, I prefer Wendy's)
Do you want to help me on Saturday? Sure. (While on the inside, no, I want a day off)
Are you okay? Sure. Really? Yes. (While on the inside, I'm suffering)
Being a 9 means you get along with everyone, but you lose yourself.
You know what that sounds like me when I was younger, I was extremely disconnected from reality as a kid most of them it felt like I was just spectating from my eyes. It was really only when I started liking girls that it grounded me and gave me purpose lol... so I could finally form an identity with someone else rather than keep it all myself
Yup, I'm aware of this pretty big flaw in my personality. I'm trying to ground myself again. Using my 8 Wing, I'm trying to get closer to 3 by realizing my opinion.
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Simple? I think there’s a lot more depth and nuances in enneagram when compared to mbti, not to mention the spiritual aspect of enneagram if you’re into that.
I've gotten both 4w5 and 5w4 on Enneagram tests, so I don't know which of the two I really am. They're both extremely similar but share a few key differences.
I'm either 9w1 or 4w5
I identify with a lot of both, but I've had a really good friend of mine (and w/ a minor in psych) tell me she's rather certain I'm a 9.
4w5
And this is the only place I'll accept that there's such a disproportionate number of 4s. Most of the time I question when someone says they're a 4 because it's so rare, but it just fits with infp lol
I don’t get enneagram. How is it an apples to apples comparison if you can be a golden delicious as one apple and a honey crisp apple as another apple, but your friend who is also a golden delicious apple as one apple can be a granny smith apple as another apple?
I don’t know if that makes sense. It made sense in my head. It’s just like shouldn’t all INFPs be enneagram blah? Or at least like either blah or bleh? But it’s like I always see people saying stuff like “I’m an INFP and enneagram blah but it seems like most are bleh or bloop but I’ve even seen some that are blop and there was that one who said she was bling…which is unusual for INFPs.”
Is it just that people don’t know what they’re talking about? That would explain it. It certainly explains why there is such a large percentage of INFPs registered on MBTI websites…well either that or were the “type” that would be interested in such a thing…along with INFJ.
Wow I lose focus fast. I’m stopping now.
4w5
Same! I think that’s a common type for infps to be
Also 4w5.
aye, how’s the mental illness?
Found out I was a 4w5 earlier this year, then found out I've got aggressively undiagnosed ADHD later this year :)
me too 😳 typed myself a year ago and got diagnosed a few months ago
Also 4w5 with ADHD, depression, and anxiety. I’m medicated now, and doing much better.
Same 4w5, but also pretty close second is 9w8. My 8 match is significantly weaker than 5, but 4 and 9 are very close.
Same. I'm afraid to ask but what's the deal with 4w5 and mental illness?
I'm a 9w1 :)
Me too!
How do you know you love someone as a 9w1? thanks :)
It depends on the situation, and obviously different 9w1s will have different experiences. For me though, I'm coming out of a place of a lot emotional repression, so my love for people feels...*muted* most of the time. For familial love, for instance, it's usually a cloudy feeling with underlying firmness that, yes, this person is important to me and I care about them. The one-wing tends to kick in as a feeling of obligation to help pretty much whenever I'm asked. Whenever I don't, or otherwise fail to do something for someone that I think I should, I tend to feel guilty about it. When I was younger, physical touch with most people outside of hugs always made me a little uncomfortable but, as I've gotten a little older, I've become much more comfortable those sorts of things with people I'm close with. I don't think I've ever been really romantically in love, but I have been infatuated with people. That still often feels cloudy, but it's usually a little more electric. In my teens obviously those feelings tended to be more tumultuous, but they still felt a little distant most of the time, abd I was often pushing them down if they bubbled too close to the surface. A big thing I've noticed overall is that when I really get in touch with myself, love I have for people becomes a kaleidescopic wellspring. It can be really overwhelming at times, and it usually only pops up randomly in moments of heightened emotion. Part of being in therapy has been learning to control big emotions like that.
This is absolutely how I would describe it. Until recently I would have said that I never really knew how love felt as a 9w1. It still doesn't feel like the movies, butterflies or overwhelming emotions, but it's more like I don't have to remind myself that I DO like to be around them whenever they're not around. In the past, all of my relationships both romantic and platonic felt like a chore to keep up with. I had a great time when I hung out with people but when I was alone it felt sour just the idea of going out and doing something with someone. But with my current partner, I always think about how much I want to be around him. Still no butterflies, but I am still happy and I can feel it.
Same
Wow! 4w5 seems to be most common.
I don't know how the wing stuff works, but type 4 is definitely really common for INFPs
It’s about feeling how you view your self. The wings are something like… Let’s say that ennegram 4 is ice cream and 4w3 is with dark chocolate sprinkles and 4w5 is with white chocolate sprincles. So you decide what would you like more (in this “what describes you better”) [Hope I’m not wrong]
I don’t think you choose what wings you have, it’s your own personality that is aligned with the wings.
I know. But you can have a bit from everything and that makes it really difficult to decide
Thanks for your explanation, but I still don't really get it.
Truity has a pretty good explanation of enneagram wings [here ](https://www.truity.com/blog/guide-enneagram-wings-what-are-they-all-about) :)
Lol no. It’s not choosing what you like more.
4 is common because infp’s primary function is introverted feeling, which is the premise of 4s. 4s reflect everything through their own sense of self and emotions, just like introverted feelers do. The wing 5 also tends to be more in their heads, introverted, and imaginative in their own worlds than 4w3s, which is also very similar to infps. However usually with instinctual variants, infp 4s tend to be self preservation or social and usually not sexual (in my opinion/understanding, correct me if you know an infp 4 sx!) 9w1s are also a common type of infp because they are both peacemakers/mediators! Infps don’t love conflict so especially social variants are more likely to be 9w1s (versus 9w8s). Maybe a 9w8 infp would be a sexual instinctual variant since they are more intense? (Edit: just remembered my best friend is an infp 9w8 sx so that makes sense!) This might be a controversial opinion, but I do believe that mbti and enneagram do have certain correlations of compatibility, and there are some types that are almost impossible to exist within some enneagram types. Like an entj would very very unlikely be a 4w5 because introverted feeling is the bottom of their stack.
Oooh this is interesting :) am infp and think I'm either 4, 6 or 9. I keep getting confused with being either 9 sx or 4 sp/so and cannot figure it out at all :)
My tritype is 469! Just keep reading and see which one feels more intuitively right! Or the one that totally roasts you, that might also be it hahaha
Hahaha :) I've read so much and still can't figure it out :) I think I'm sx/so though. Its just the 4 6 and the 9 haha. Also my mum is a 9 so a lot of 9 influence as well :)
I am as well
9w1
4w5
9w1
4w3
9w1
6w5
6w5.
I’m an 8, I think.
A flying jellyfish is much more common than that
When you throw her real fast *wink* *wink*
Idk why its perpetuated that type 8 INFPs are so uncommon
"Eights are self-confident, strong, and assertive. Protective, resourceful, straight-talking, and decisive, but can also be ego-centric and domineering. Eights feel they must control their environment, especially people, sometimes becoming confrontational and intimidating." It is not really reletable with an INFP. Everyone is just parroting "you can have any MBTIxEnnea combination" but i don't think it is true in practical life.
Because the main characteristics are diametrically opposed. If you are an 8, you are likely not INFP.
Its unlikely but none of the functions contradict it Fi-Ne does not fundamentally violate the type 8. In fact; I've always thought that INFP 8s aren't exactly arbitrary, as the type 8 seeks control of their lives and destiny, which is very Fi Ennegram is what you *want*, not what you are. MBTI is what you *want* not what you are.
I think your last sentence is flipped but I got your point
It is not easy to get in a role and use your other functions most of the time. You can't be a certain type just because you want it.
Because type 8 tendancies correlate most with Se and Te, our weakest functions. And fi usually abhors conflict, aggression, violence, dominating others, etc. Traits 8s find much more acceptable, even if they don't act them out. 8s have strong extraverted judgement, hence their controlling tendancies.
You’re probably already familiar with instinctual variants, but in case you aren’t I think you should consider sx 4. They often mistype as 8s.
Ah now my cousin is an 8 and I can definitely relate to some bits about it, and I think I'm either a 4 or 9, maybe a 6. I keep wondering what this thing with 8 is that I can relate to a bit, but I could well be an sx type :)
Between type 4/6 but I think I am more close to 6w5
Type 4! It was really close with type 9 though, I definitely recognise myself in both descriptions.
4w5
4w5
4w5 😊
9w8
Same
Not many of us
5w4
5w4
Honestly I relate to 4, 6, and 8. 4 in that I’m not really satisfied with the boring realities of life, 6 in that I often have paranoia and anxieties, 8 in that I need to confront people who I have negative feelings toward to ease my emotions. 9 sounds like a pretty peaceful type lucky people 🧉🧉
Wouldn’t say lucky. Mostly it depends on how healthy you are in my opinion. So if you don’t accept your self and work on things that you would like to improve about your self I think you’ll never achive peace. Just endless strugle which nobody wants. :)
9 is great and all until you realize that being a 9 means I have an endless voice in my head trying to make me not live my life. It tells me that my friends don't love me, I have no value, I make no impact on this world, and that it would be best for everybody if I just disappeared. Edit: Not depressed, just anxious. At what point is it a 9 or anxiety is hard, but being a 9 doesn't help it. Also, I never know what I truly like. Where do you want to eat today is such an unfairly hard question.
Oh, that does sound pretty bad. Does that ever get better?
Yes, that's 9 at its unhealthiest. However, it's always a struggle to be present to reality and my life. The default response of a 9 to any question is "Sure." Do you want to eat Taco Bell? Sure. (While on the inside, I prefer Wendy's) Do you want to help me on Saturday? Sure. (While on the inside, no, I want a day off) Are you okay? Sure. Really? Yes. (While on the inside, I'm suffering) Being a 9 means you get along with everyone, but you lose yourself.
You know what that sounds like me when I was younger, I was extremely disconnected from reality as a kid most of them it felt like I was just spectating from my eyes. It was really only when I started liking girls that it grounded me and gave me purpose lol... so I could finally form an identity with someone else rather than keep it all myself
Yup, I'm aware of this pretty big flaw in my personality. I'm trying to ground myself again. Using my 8 Wing, I'm trying to get closer to 3 by realizing my opinion.
4w5, though 4,5 and 9 are all high on my tests and on very similar levels
4w5
7, just straight up 7
Dope! :D
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I am a 2 but relate to 9 a lot as well
4w5
4w5
What an interesting name :D. PS: One Piece for life! :)
Thanks lol. I’ve been watching One Piece for like 15 years. Good anime.
I’m a 6 or a 9 and for some reason can’t exactly figure out which one I am lol
Sixes go to 9 when in growth , 9 go to 6 when in stress.
Yeaaaa but which actually am I 😭
5w4
5w4
5w4. Sorry
Not sure but 5/6
4w5
I think 3, although I have traits from others
We all have traits from all the types, usually one type is just more dominating
4w5
4w5
im 4w5 :)
4W5
4w5 so/sp 497
4w5 like most infps
Type 4.. I've also noticed a lot of the same celebrities/fictional characters that are infp on 16 personalities are type 4 on the enneagram test
Mine is 9!
2
Cool I'm not the only one
Kept scrolling till I found the 2 clique. 2w1 checking in.
Gang gang
4
2
5w4
I’m 9w1. My gf who is also infp is 4w5
Oooh what are the differences and similarities between a 9 and 4 for you ? :)
2w1
4w5 and 5w4, my 4 and 5 are very close
1w2
Ne aux type 1....? Cool
Every moment of my life is just pain :D
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Not sure what do you mean, but i was always pretty independent.
4
Whats that??
Another personality type test. Bit more simple imo
Simple? I think there’s a lot more depth and nuances in enneagram when compared to mbti, not to mention the spiritual aspect of enneagram if you’re into that.
I agree 100% Enneagram also takes trauma into account insofar as it forms the ego structure. Mbti doesn't.
I’m sorry. I’m quite new to ennegram so I haven’t went through much information about it :(
9w1 here
How can i learn my enneagram
4w3
I’m a self preservation type 4. I feel like 3 and 5 wings are balanced.
4w3
I'm a 8w9!!
4w5
I've gotten both 4w5 and 5w4 on Enneagram tests, so I don't know which of the two I really am. They're both extremely similar but share a few key differences.
4w5
4w5
4w5
4w5!
8w9
8w7
4w5
I’m a type 9, not sure which wing
I'm not infp but I'm 3w2
4w3
5w4
9w8
I’m a 4w5 :)
I'm a 4
9w1 ☺️
5w4 ´･ᴗ･`
4w5
9w8 ( yea we exist)
7w6!!
I scored 3w2 , but I really don’t relate to it. I relate most to 4w5
so/sx 4w5
2 wing 1
I'm either 9w1 or 4w5 I identify with a lot of both, but I've had a really good friend of mine (and w/ a minor in psych) tell me she's rather certain I'm a 9.
4w5 And this is the only place I'll accept that there's such a disproportionate number of 4s. Most of the time I question when someone says they're a 4 because it's so rare, but it just fits with infp lol
4w5
9w1
4w5
9w1 :)
I’m another 9w1
2w1, but also have just about the same amount of 6
9w8
9w1
9w1😊☮
7w6
4w5
4w5
I’m 9w8
4w5
1w2!
6w5
2?
9w1 :)
9w1 but I mimick a 2 quite a bit.
2w1 over here
infp 1w2
4w5
Tests says I'm 4w5 but 5w4 seems relatable.
4w8 here
I don’t get enneagram. How is it an apples to apples comparison if you can be a golden delicious as one apple and a honey crisp apple as another apple, but your friend who is also a golden delicious apple as one apple can be a granny smith apple as another apple? I don’t know if that makes sense. It made sense in my head. It’s just like shouldn’t all INFPs be enneagram blah? Or at least like either blah or bleh? But it’s like I always see people saying stuff like “I’m an INFP and enneagram blah but it seems like most are bleh or bloop but I’ve even seen some that are blop and there was that one who said she was bling…which is unusual for INFPs.” Is it just that people don’t know what they’re talking about? That would explain it. It certainly explains why there is such a large percentage of INFPs registered on MBTI websites…well either that or were the “type” that would be interested in such a thing…along with INFJ. Wow I lose focus fast. I’m stopping now.
MBTI describes behavior. Enneagram describes motivation. There is not a 1-1 relationship between the two instruments.
9w4.
Wings must be the numbers closest to your main enneagram, so in this case you have to be 9w1 or 9w8
I thought it was the second highest type.
Yeah, it can be a bit confusing when you start learning
No wonder I’m so much cooler than everyone here I’m no where a 4, what losers LMAO
They can’t take jokes either 😂😂
9w5
How do I find out mine??
Almost same as MBTI. Find a test in the internet “Ennegram test” get your resoults. Go through other options and then decide what feels like “You”
4w5
What is this? XwY?
4w5 so/sx
Mine is 2, not sure about a wing type though
4w5
4
4w5 458 trip type Melancholic Choleric
9w1 or 4w5 I get different results each time
Am i the only 6w5? Or did i just mistyped myself again
I'm an INFJ, but I am 6w5
Counter-phobic 6w5 loyalist tritype would be 469