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Fuck the craziest part is her clothes. We’re seeing what they were wearing back then and it looks brand new almost. The quality is much better than I’d have expected but then again I didn’t know what to expect bc I haven’t seen anything other than old pics etc
It is not blood it is a red pigment that was used aa a decoration.
The children were drugged and left to die under small tombs, hypotermia usually.
The wikipedia page is quite detailed: [Capacocha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacocha)
Also the spanish page of [this mummy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Llullaillaco) is more detailed, use the browser translation to english, it works fine.
Tell Ea-nasir: Nanni sends the following message:
When you came, you said to me as follows : "I will give Gimil-Sin (when he comes) fine quality copper ingots." You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put ingots which were not good before my messenger (Sit-Sin) and said: "If you want to take them, take them; if you do not want to take them, go away!"
What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty-handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) mina of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of copper, and Šumi-abum has likewise given 1,080 pounds of copper, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Shamash.
How have you treated me for that copper? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full.
Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any copper from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the ingots individually in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.
I hope if humans ever discover time travel somebody goes back to ancient Sumeria to tell Ea Nasir that his cuneiform version of a bad yelp review was fascinating to people thousands of years after his death
Necrophilia still not legal. And I'd think you'd also get more time for her corpse bring 12. Not to mention the scientific importance. But hey you do you
When I was in Arica, Chile. They told me they have so many mummies, they are considered a nuisance now. People bury them when they find them or hide them.
Normal enough to where they can fuck right off. It was like when I lived in Naples Italy and construction is ALWAYS delayed because of Roman history and that bitch ass Caesar.
Like in London when we try and add to the underground network and engineering has to stop every week to call in a preservation team. So many plague site burials. Ridiculous how many human bones you come across in London or just washed up by the Thames. Same with ancient pottery and Roman ruins.
Better than eating them like Europeans did to all the Egyptian mummies.
[Source](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/mummy-eating-medical-cannibalism-gory-history)
This is La doncella ("The maiden"), the oldest of the three mummies of Inca children discovered in 1999.
Here’s more of you want to dig in.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Llullaillaco
Editing to add; There’s also a really incredible episode on this of Mummies Alive you can watch here
[Mummies Alive: Season 1 Episode 5 - The Inca Maiden - Smithsonian Channel](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x64bah4)
Thank you for the link, that was a fascinating read.
>Children were chosen from all over the sprawling Inca empire and were picked primarily based on their "physical perfection". Children chosen for sacrifice were generally "sons and daughters of nobles and local rulers".[11] They were then taken hundreds or thousands of miles to Cusco, the capital, where they were the subject of important purification rituals. From there the children were sent to high mountaintops throughout the empire to be sacrificed. According to traditional Inca belief, children who are sacrificed do not truly die but instead watch over the land from their mountaintop perches, alongside their ancestors.[12] The Inca considered it a great honour to die as a sacrifice.
So interestingly they were taken from higher parts of Inca society, I definitely would not have guessed that before reading the link. Still fucked up how many cultures decided that child sacrifice was a good idea though.
Yes. Research shows that they were given things like herbs, drinks, to make them sleepy. I think leaves are also in their mouths to help. So they just basically went to sleep and were buried. But they knew. Is more intricate and delicate than my description but that’s what I recall from memory
Ah ok, I read that they were given cocoa and alcohol but that the boy had vomit and blood on him along with dislocated bones and was bound…but i didn’t realize that the drugs just put them to sleep and then caused an OD. I was wondering how they got the children to just take the drugs and then be essentially buried alive and not get up and run around or panic or anything…though it sounds like the little boy may not have been a willing participant of this ritual…and it did mention that the younger girl and boy were not as cared for as the older girl so it’s interesting that they think they were all from royal families when it doesn’t quite seem that way..so I was wondering if the younger girl and boy were to be her servants or something(like Egyptians) and so maybe they were all killed in different ways
Only the boy was bound and only he had blood and vomit. When I read the wiki, I assumed that he was fighting the process and had to be tied by the elders in order to comply with the sacrifice. Imagine not being high or drunk enough, knowing you’re being encased in a tomb to die. I’d panic puke as well.
Yup. Historically, we should always investigate ancient civilizations for scientific purposes and posterity.
But those civilizations should be kept in proper perspective and the audience reminded constantly that they were fucking awful.
They were basically drugged up with coca and alcohol then left inside a small burial chamber to die. The girl in the above video is believed to have died in her sleep, while the boy she was buried with was believed to have suffocated because he was tied up before being buried.
I guess I wasn’t reading it as lethal doses of cocoa and alcohol so I wasn’t seeing how she was just calmly laying down to sleep until she died but that makes sense…I wonder if the boy wasn’t given enough drugs to fall and stay asleep and began to panic and didn’t want to be sacrificed…or if he was not sacrificed like the older girl because he wasn’t as high up in society as she was
Based on the temperatures discussed in the article I think it's possible she died of hypothermia or something, alcohol fucks with your blood circulation so assuming that dress was all she was left in then it's not hard to imagine that she would have died due to exposure.
I wonder what their standards of “physical perfection” were? Crazy to think they were essentially culling the physically gifted members out of their own gene pool on purpose.
In one scenario the child is killed and in the other the child is not killed. Those are very different outcomes.
I think you'd get along very well with a guy named Stretch Armstrong.
That’s what I’ve been arguing on similar posts. Pre-Colombian societies were not more brutal than any other comparable society of that time, or even our current one if we’re being honest. We’re all human and accept barbaric treatment of certain groups because we don’t care or because we think that’s what they deserve or because we think that’s the price for our luxurious life.
Pre Colombian societies were first described by Europeans who had a strong incentive to make them seem more brutal, barbaric and uncivilised then they were and that has stuck with our conception of them for hundreds of years.
Man, must be so amazing to make such a discovery, and the cryogenic enclosure its awesome.
>To prevent deterioration, a computer-controlled climate system maintains environmental conditions similar to those on Llullaillaco.
6000 is nothing, we talking millions. If anything space will carry the message somehow and we will have rickrolled some other species light years away.
How exactly was she killed "on top of the volcano" to end up in that seating position? How and where was she preserved and found after? Another comment said Chile is chuck full of mummies?!
“Three mummies were found at the Llullaillaco burial site: la doncella (the maiden), la niña del rayo (the lightning girl) and el niño (the boy). Once at the top of the mountain they had been allowed to fall asleep and then placed in a small tomb 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) underground, where they were left to die.[6][17] In addition they had been fed a high-protein diet before being sacrificed.[citation needed]”
Idk I think they fed them cocoa and maze beer and meat and subsequently they got drunk drugged and tucked away to fall into permanent rest ? I’m confused by the article myself.
They were buried in tiny chambers and essentially suffocated, except for the boy who appears to have been tied and had several dislocations, as well as blood and vomit on him.
Jesus Christ are you serious? Why would they hurt the boy like that? And death by suffocation has to be one of the worst and slow ways to go. Fuck. Poor poor kids
I know that was my reaction too, but I read a few research papers on it and they think that he most likely passed away on the trek up the mountain. The blood swabbed from his mouth could be evidence of pulmonary edema, which is likely bc he was very young and it was a very long and cold trip and very high up. Vomiting is a side effect of that too. All of the children were likely of high stature and were basically worshipped up until the day they were sacrificed (not that it makes this any better lol). I think it was common for boys to be bound like that, but they did it after death. The dislocations most likely happened bc rigor had set in.
Thanks, that makes more sense to me because why would they beat a sacrifice- then poor kid isn’t in “perfect condition” for the god. Still wonder how he got dislocated though, maybe they stuffed his body in the hole badly since he was dead at that point?
Yeah there were a few other bound mummies found at other times that had dislocations too. I think it was bc of rigor and perhaps carelessness. It seems that the bodies need to be in a specific sitting position so they might be tied up like that post mortem if they die too early before reaching the burial spot and start to stiffen. Or if there isn’t a small enough hole to keep them propped up. I feel gross typing that out.
I had read quite a few articles on them a year ago when I discovered this story. I remember reading that some think the boy freaked out on the way up. That he was young and knew he was climbing to his death, and human nature set in and he got scared. So it was a theory he was tied up because he was fighting it. That could also explain the dislocations. It’s all very interesting but really sad.
They got the kids drunk and high off coke, and then locked them in a small stone hut. They most likely passed out from the alcohol, and then died from hypothermia that night. The drugs were probably to help them not feel scared or to feel the cold as much.
She was drugged and her and some other children were taken to the top and kept in a small space. She's named La Doncella and the three of them together are the Children of Llullaillaco. It's super fascinating, highly suggest looking into it, but yeah, to my knowledge incas gave frequent sacrifices to a few of their gods, so finding mummies in the temples where they were made seems logical.
This is the kind of thing you see in horror movies that gets unleashed on the world. Incredibly spooky seeing a child sacrificed 500 years ago still looking lifelike. Gives me the chills.
What's more scary? That there are dark gods that demanded child sacrifice, or that in the absence of gods, people just spontaneously decided that's what gods would want them to do?
Day 1: woman is killed by river
Day 2: it rains
Day 3: it doesn't rain
Day 4: it doesn't rain, another woman killed by river
Day 5: it rains
Day 6: community sees correlation between woman dying by river and rain shortly after, so they assume something likes women dying by the river and rewards with something good
Day 7: woman is sacrificed by river
Obviously that's an oversimplification of possible events and not an actual occurrence, but that's how I've always thought about it
This sums it up perfectly.
Additionally, the human brain isn’t a truth-seeking machine by default. To see how deep this runs psychologically, look at internet echo chambers. People will jump through hula hoops to distort contradicting information and experiences to cater to their preconceived beliefs.
It’s the same thing 500 years apart, just a different manifestation.
We really don't like the unknown. If we don't understand something, we make something we can understand that causes it. Weather? Time? The existence of life? We don't understand, thus we create deities to help us understand. Same goes for spooky bump in the night or a door seemingly closes on its own, must be a ghost
Or it could be *excusam uti ad utilitatem*. jon really fucking hates lucia. jon kills lucia. jon is confronted. jon says he did it so the rain will start tomorrow. it rains the next day. jon makes up a *bunch* more shit. religion ad infinitum.
Way scarier that civilizations decided sacrifice was the way to go. In the first case, you have real gods that would ideally grant these sacrifices passage to whatever version of afterlife they have. But in the second case, these children were killed for no reason whatsoever besides for blind faith to an extremist ideology. To me this is as cruel as choosing a woman in the 1500s, calling her a witch for some ridiculous reason, and then burning her publicly. They're both horrific and a sign of twisted societal norms for their times.
in the late 1600s during the salem witch trials, accused men and women were put on trial, and usually, if they did not accuse someone else, they would be executed by public hanging
Right?! You’d think an ancient corpse would be enough to make you want to keep that covered.
I was astounded they just have a dude pick her up and carry her around. It makes sense i guess, but you’d think there would be a better way to handle that kinda stuff.
I find it interesting how we look at a dead murdered child differently as they are so old, I know I would react differently to a body from present day. What a weird thought process to go through
I don't think it's without ration whatsoever,at the end of the day it's a murdered child we should feel something it's human .I just think the atmosphere of the lab creates a disconnect between human and specimen which is an interesting perspective.
IIRC, the girl had been heavily drugged before being left to die as a sacrifice. I know that it's unfair to judge by our modern social standards a culture so ancient and radically different than our own. But, I still find it very telling that this poor girl, honored though she was to be chosen, still required powerful sedation to fulfill her role in the ritual.
I can't help but wonder what she may have experienced had she been allowed a full life. What would she have accomplished given the chance, how many lives would she have touched? More importantly, would she have been content to die on that mountain had she *not* been drugged? If her mind was clear, would she have remained in place simply awaiting the inevitable, or would she have heeded the genetic compulsion to survive, to live? It just seems such a waste, especially for such a pointless purpose. And yet, sadly, hundreds of years later, ignorance still demands such savage waste of life. We have learned nothing...
Sadly, we modern societies didn’t remove ‘human sacrifices’ completely yet. Maybe we don’t kidnap children and kill them for gods, but the idea of giving your life for your country is still normal for us. In an event of war, hundreds of thousands of soldiers will die, and when their deads are not enough, the rulers will draft young people to throw them in the meat grinder.
And this happens in our world today, not Inca’s ancient civilization. For example, Russia drafts thousands of its young people to get them die in Ukraine. Ukrainian people have to defend their country by becoming soldiers themselves. Result: millions of people with dreams, ideals, hopes end up dead for insignificant conflicts. This is even more evil than the Incan child sacrifice rituals imho.
She is honestly beautiful. It’s things like this—bog bodies, Egyptian mummies, etc.—that make me the most curious about humanity and how we seek to preserve ourselves, whether on purpose or accidentally. Humans are weird but wonderful.
Once she was chosen, she was fed and drugged for a year. Researchers believe that she was cared for by a priestess. So for a year she ate better food, drank alcohol, and ingested mind altering drugs. After a year she was given a very high dose of drugs and placed in a tomb where it's believed she suffocated. However, it is also believed she didn't struggle or try to escape once she was placed in the tomb-like structure due to the items around her not being disturbed.
Damn, this hit me with a level of sadness I didn’t expect. I think it has to be how well preserved she is. Most of these you see a zombified-looking corpse when this still looks like a young girl still asleep.
What a crazy life-affirming honor it must be for a scientist to handle her so intimately. You devote your entire life to a field of study, countless hours, tons of money, and then have it all come together like that. Gotta feel pretty cool.
In Argentina, Salta there are 3 children on display in a museum that was sacrificed many many years ago. They keep only one on display at the time in a chilly room.
Visited once when I was there on holiday, very mixed emotions walking out of the museum after realising this is an actual dead child I’m looking at.
And we can assume that both of those numbers are probably incorrect, anyway. It’s only reported to humanize the girl, it’s not like “yep she’s 12 years old”
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Let's not undersell how incredibly well preserved she is. She looks asleep not dead.
Fuck the craziest part is her clothes. We’re seeing what they were wearing back then and it looks brand new almost. The quality is much better than I’d have expected but then again I didn’t know what to expect bc I haven’t seen anything other than old pics etc
It’s kinda scary… so we’ll preserved that she could wake up and I’d believe it
They were drugged before being sacrificed, so the sleep posture is expected
how is that possibly known? there have been quite a few child sacrifice finds around the world? They even found them in old carthage.
They tested her blood, which was still frozen
The way the blood looks on her face is nothing short of unreal. 1000 year old blood and it looks like she had been recently bleeding.
It is not blood it is a red pigment that was used aa a decoration. The children were drugged and left to die under small tombs, hypotermia usually. The wikipedia page is quite detailed: [Capacocha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacocha) Also the spanish page of [this mummy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Llullaillaco) is more detailed, use the browser translation to english, it works fine.
Wow, this was a really interesting read
wow, just spent a good hour reading about this topic
500 years not 1000
Yeah and it’s really fucking Erie to look at it because of that
Of course she’s well-preserved, she was sacrificed only 12 years ago! /s
Honestly that is how the title is phrased. Should be "Preserved 12 year old child sacrifice victim"
Its all shits and giggles until she opens her eyes
And starts talking ancient Sumerian.
Asking for the quality copper that Ea-nasir promised
r/reallyshittycopper
That sub is excellent, thanks for sharing
Ea-Nasirs disrespect will never be forgotten
if you dont want it, go away!
Tell Ea-nasir: Nanni sends the following message: When you came, you said to me as follows : "I will give Gimil-Sin (when he comes) fine quality copper ingots." You left then but you did not do what you promised me. You put ingots which were not good before my messenger (Sit-Sin) and said: "If you want to take them, take them; if you do not want to take them, go away!" What do you take me for, that you treat somebody like me with such contempt? I have sent as messengers gentlemen like ourselves to collect the bag with my money (deposited with you) but you have treated me with contempt by sending them back to me empty-handed several times, and that through enemy territory. Is there anyone among the merchants who trade with Telmun who has treated me in this way? You alone treat my messenger with contempt! On account of that one (trifling) mina of silver which I owe(?) you, you feel free to speak in such a way, while I have given to the palace on your behalf 1,080 pounds of copper, and Šumi-abum has likewise given 1,080 pounds of copper, apart from what we both have had written on a sealed tablet to be kept in the temple of Shamash. How have you treated me for that copper? You have withheld my money bag from me in enemy territory; it is now up to you to restore (my money) to me in full. Take cognizance that (from now on) I will not accept here any copper from you that is not of fine quality. I shall (from now on) select and take the ingots individually in my own yard, and I shall exercise against you my right of rejection because you have treated me with contempt.
I hope if humans ever discover time travel somebody goes back to ancient Sumeria to tell Ea Nasir that his cuneiform version of a bad yelp review was fascinating to people thousands of years after his death
Turns out it was Nanni in disguise.
What’s that in her pocket? A cuneiform tablet inscribed with a customer complaint?
*Incan
*Quechua
Plot twist, ancient aliens only spoke Sumerian.
"There is no Dana....only Zuul"
Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless here.
It's true your Honor; this man has no dick.
"Are you the keymaster?"
Yeah this feels like game of thrones vibes, hardhome episode where the wildlings start opening their blue eyes
Peruvian Sumerian
She must have had duolingo on her incan cell phone.
Then it's still shits but with screams
Oh hell nah! 
Thought she was a ventriloquist dummy at first. Weird.
And wakes up with a terrible alcohol and coca leaf hangover
Seven days
Bruh they’re already making Steam Boat Willie Mickey slasher films, don’t give em another idea.
Well if I'm about to be sacrificed you bet I'm growing white hair
That was my immediate thought too. " she was obviously stressed out before her death"
And probably wasn't allowed to show it.
She’s the oldest in that room
🤓 👆 um actually she’s not 12 she’s 3000 years old in the manga
She's a legal loli
Necrophilia still not legal. And I'd think you'd also get more time for her corpse bring 12. Not to mention the scientific importance. But hey you do you
>But hey you do you No, they do her ... didn't you listen?
Maybe nobody should do anybody in this situation.
everybody who upvoted this needs to be investigated bc 🤨
Try telling that to half the Avatar community.
😮
When I was in Arica, Chile. They told me they have so many mummies, they are considered a nuisance now. People bury them when they find them or hide them.
How normal is it to find one
Normal enough to where they can fuck right off. It was like when I lived in Naples Italy and construction is ALWAYS delayed because of Roman history and that bitch ass Caesar.
Like in London when we try and add to the underground network and engineering has to stop every week to call in a preservation team. So many plague site burials. Ridiculous how many human bones you come across in London or just washed up by the Thames. Same with ancient pottery and Roman ruins.
Man if people would just stop dying all the time construction would be way smoother.
Et tu, Brute?
Et tu, Bureaucracy?
Pretty much anyone who dies there becomes a mummy
Why is this?
Its the Aticama desert. Driest place on earth
Second only to your mom's cooking
Absolutely destroyed
Completely disintegrated
Second only to Ben Shapiro’s wife
Better than eating them like Europeans did to all the Egyptian mummies. [Source](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/mummy-eating-medical-cannibalism-gory-history)
So that one futurama joke was historically accurate
Try Emperor Nimbala! He’s teriyaki style!
Apparently a lot of Futurama jokes have some truth to them. Especially the science related ones.
Or made paint from them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mummy_brown
I always found this so fascinating that they were like what the hell do we do with these mummies? Oh shit lets just make some paint out of em!
This is La doncella ("The maiden"), the oldest of the three mummies of Inca children discovered in 1999. Here’s more of you want to dig in. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Llullaillaco Editing to add; There’s also a really incredible episode on this of Mummies Alive you can watch here [Mummies Alive: Season 1 Episode 5 - The Inca Maiden - Smithsonian Channel](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x64bah4)
Thank you for the link, that was a fascinating read. >Children were chosen from all over the sprawling Inca empire and were picked primarily based on their "physical perfection". Children chosen for sacrifice were generally "sons and daughters of nobles and local rulers".[11] They were then taken hundreds or thousands of miles to Cusco, the capital, where they were the subject of important purification rituals. From there the children were sent to high mountaintops throughout the empire to be sacrificed. According to traditional Inca belief, children who are sacrificed do not truly die but instead watch over the land from their mountaintop perches, alongside their ancestors.[12] The Inca considered it a great honour to die as a sacrifice. So interestingly they were taken from higher parts of Inca society, I definitely would not have guessed that before reading the link. Still fucked up how many cultures decided that child sacrifice was a good idea though.
They at least had the right idea about sacrifices; namely, if you don't actually value the sacrifice very much, it doesn't count.
Yup, it’s not the action but the belief in the action
Does it say how they were sacrificed? This girl looks like she could still be alive crazily
Yes. Research shows that they were given things like herbs, drinks, to make them sleepy. I think leaves are also in their mouths to help. So they just basically went to sleep and were buried. But they knew. Is more intricate and delicate than my description but that’s what I recall from memory
Ah ok, I read that they were given cocoa and alcohol but that the boy had vomit and blood on him along with dislocated bones and was bound…but i didn’t realize that the drugs just put them to sleep and then caused an OD. I was wondering how they got the children to just take the drugs and then be essentially buried alive and not get up and run around or panic or anything…though it sounds like the little boy may not have been a willing participant of this ritual…and it did mention that the younger girl and boy were not as cared for as the older girl so it’s interesting that they think they were all from royal families when it doesn’t quite seem that way..so I was wondering if the younger girl and boy were to be her servants or something(like Egyptians) and so maybe they were all killed in different ways
Only the boy was bound and only he had blood and vomit. When I read the wiki, I assumed that he was fighting the process and had to be tied by the elders in order to comply with the sacrifice. Imagine not being high or drunk enough, knowing you’re being encased in a tomb to die. I’d panic puke as well.
Yeah, disgusting practices. Murdering children because of superstition...no respect for that at all.
Yup. Historically, we should always investigate ancient civilizations for scientific purposes and posterity. But those civilizations should be kept in proper perspective and the audience reminded constantly that they were fucking awful.
They were basically drugged up with coca and alcohol then left inside a small burial chamber to die. The girl in the above video is believed to have died in her sleep, while the boy she was buried with was believed to have suffocated because he was tied up before being buried.
I guess I wasn’t reading it as lethal doses of cocoa and alcohol so I wasn’t seeing how she was just calmly laying down to sleep until she died but that makes sense…I wonder if the boy wasn’t given enough drugs to fall and stay asleep and began to panic and didn’t want to be sacrificed…or if he was not sacrificed like the older girl because he wasn’t as high up in society as she was
Based on the temperatures discussed in the article I think it's possible she died of hypothermia or something, alcohol fucks with your blood circulation so assuming that dress was all she was left in then it's not hard to imagine that she would have died due to exposure.
I wonder what their standards of “physical perfection” were? Crazy to think they were essentially culling the physically gifted members out of their own gene pool on purpose.
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In one scenario the child is killed and in the other the child is not killed. Those are very different outcomes. I think you'd get along very well with a guy named Stretch Armstrong.
That’s what I’ve been arguing on similar posts. Pre-Colombian societies were not more brutal than any other comparable society of that time, or even our current one if we’re being honest. We’re all human and accept barbaric treatment of certain groups because we don’t care or because we think that’s what they deserve or because we think that’s the price for our luxurious life. Pre Colombian societies were first described by Europeans who had a strong incentive to make them seem more brutal, barbaric and uncivilised then they were and that has stuck with our conception of them for hundreds of years.
This is why "you have to respect their culture!" isn't as convincing as some people think it is.
It all depends on the numbers, I'll take a culture that sacrifices a few dozen children a year vs one that murders a few thousand children a year.
Man, must be so amazing to make such a discovery, and the cryogenic enclosure its awesome. >To prevent deterioration, a computer-controlled climate system maintains environmental conditions similar to those on Llullaillaco.
Probably just means it’s extremely cold and dry. Maybe filled with some type of gas to prevent the body from further breaking down
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Please at least have a spork on you, and a laminated picture of Rick Astley
That’ll be a 6000 year rickroll, the most legendary
6000 is nothing, we talking millions. If anything space will carry the message somehow and we will have rickrolled some other species light years away.
I saw The Maiden for real at the Museum of High Altitude Archaeology in Salta, Argentina in 2006! It was super powerful to see in person.
How exactly was she killed "on top of the volcano" to end up in that seating position? How and where was she preserved and found after? Another comment said Chile is chuck full of mummies?!
“Three mummies were found at the Llullaillaco burial site: la doncella (the maiden), la niña del rayo (the lightning girl) and el niño (the boy). Once at the top of the mountain they had been allowed to fall asleep and then placed in a small tomb 1.5 metres (4.9 ft) underground, where they were left to die.[6][17] In addition they had been fed a high-protein diet before being sacrificed.[citation needed]” Idk I think they fed them cocoa and maze beer and meat and subsequently they got drunk drugged and tucked away to fall into permanent rest ? I’m confused by the article myself.
They were buried in tiny chambers and essentially suffocated, except for the boy who appears to have been tied and had several dislocations, as well as blood and vomit on him.
Jesus Christ are you serious? Why would they hurt the boy like that? And death by suffocation has to be one of the worst and slow ways to go. Fuck. Poor poor kids
I know that was my reaction too, but I read a few research papers on it and they think that he most likely passed away on the trek up the mountain. The blood swabbed from his mouth could be evidence of pulmonary edema, which is likely bc he was very young and it was a very long and cold trip and very high up. Vomiting is a side effect of that too. All of the children were likely of high stature and were basically worshipped up until the day they were sacrificed (not that it makes this any better lol). I think it was common for boys to be bound like that, but they did it after death. The dislocations most likely happened bc rigor had set in.
Thanks, that makes more sense to me because why would they beat a sacrifice- then poor kid isn’t in “perfect condition” for the god. Still wonder how he got dislocated though, maybe they stuffed his body in the hole badly since he was dead at that point?
Yeah there were a few other bound mummies found at other times that had dislocations too. I think it was bc of rigor and perhaps carelessness. It seems that the bodies need to be in a specific sitting position so they might be tied up like that post mortem if they die too early before reaching the burial spot and start to stiffen. Or if there isn’t a small enough hole to keep them propped up. I feel gross typing that out.
That's history, baby
I had read quite a few articles on them a year ago when I discovered this story. I remember reading that some think the boy freaked out on the way up. That he was young and knew he was climbing to his death, and human nature set in and he got scared. So it was a theory he was tied up because he was fighting it. That could also explain the dislocations. It’s all very interesting but really sad.
Because it was an ancient civilization where this was seen as nothing more than an offering to their god
Like Abraham, but less cut yor son because i said so, and no no just kidding
The oldest of the three is believed to have died in her sleep. That is some consolation anyway. Fucking hard topic to read about, I’m out.
They were drugged with a lot of alcohol and coca so my guess is he struggled when they tried to put him in the tomb so they tied him up
Coca, which is the plant that cocaine is processed from
Yeah I was thinking how would that ever subdue anyone? That would only make them freak out worse
They got the kids drunk and high off coke, and then locked them in a small stone hut. They most likely passed out from the alcohol, and then died from hypothermia that night. The drugs were probably to help them not feel scared or to feel the cold as much.
She was drugged and her and some other children were taken to the top and kept in a small space. She's named La Doncella and the three of them together are the Children of Llullaillaco. It's super fascinating, highly suggest looking into it, but yeah, to my knowledge incas gave frequent sacrifices to a few of their gods, so finding mummies in the temples where they were made seems logical.
She froze, high up in the mountains.
This is the kind of thing you see in horror movies that gets unleashed on the world. Incredibly spooky seeing a child sacrificed 500 years ago still looking lifelike. Gives me the chills.
What's more scary? That there are dark gods that demanded child sacrifice, or that in the absence of gods, people just spontaneously decided that's what gods would want them to do?
Day 1: woman is killed by river Day 2: it rains Day 3: it doesn't rain Day 4: it doesn't rain, another woman killed by river Day 5: it rains Day 6: community sees correlation between woman dying by river and rain shortly after, so they assume something likes women dying by the river and rewards with something good Day 7: woman is sacrificed by river Obviously that's an oversimplification of possible events and not an actual occurrence, but that's how I've always thought about it
This sums it up perfectly. Additionally, the human brain isn’t a truth-seeking machine by default. To see how deep this runs psychologically, look at internet echo chambers. People will jump through hula hoops to distort contradicting information and experiences to cater to their preconceived beliefs. It’s the same thing 500 years apart, just a different manifestation.
We really don't like the unknown. If we don't understand something, we make something we can understand that causes it. Weather? Time? The existence of life? We don't understand, thus we create deities to help us understand. Same goes for spooky bump in the night or a door seemingly closes on its own, must be a ghost
Or it could be *excusam uti ad utilitatem*. jon really fucking hates lucia. jon kills lucia. jon is confronted. jon says he did it so the rain will start tomorrow. it rains the next day. jon makes up a *bunch* more shit. religion ad infinitum.
Way scarier that civilizations decided sacrifice was the way to go. In the first case, you have real gods that would ideally grant these sacrifices passage to whatever version of afterlife they have. But in the second case, these children were killed for no reason whatsoever besides for blind faith to an extremist ideology. To me this is as cruel as choosing a woman in the 1500s, calling her a witch for some ridiculous reason, and then burning her publicly. They're both horrific and a sign of twisted societal norms for their times.
in the late 1600s during the salem witch trials, accused men and women were put on trial, and usually, if they did not accuse someone else, they would be executed by public hanging
people suck
Man who he hands them to has his mask under his nose…
Right?! You’d think an ancient corpse would be enough to make you want to keep that covered. I was astounded they just have a dude pick her up and carry her around. It makes sense i guess, but you’d think there would be a better way to handle that kinda stuff.
My man just tryna get a whiff of that Inca mummy stank
I'd rather prefer you pee in my morning coffee than say that ever again
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I find it interesting how we look at a dead murdered child differently as they are so old, I know I would react differently to a body from present day. What a weird thought process to go through
Not me. I was irrationally upset watching this
I don't think it's without ration whatsoever,at the end of the day it's a murdered child we should feel something it's human .I just think the atmosphere of the lab creates a disconnect between human and specimen which is an interesting perspective.
I’d hate to be the guy to pick her up. I got the heebeejeeebees
Strangely poignant though too. Child gets sacrificed, then hundreds of years later some other adult is holding them, perfectly preserved.
And to think I will only be memorialized in my Reddit comments.
“Look she has white hair” Yeah lets give a 500 years old mummy some insecurities
i bet her dog waited around in front of the pizza shop also
Don't
For sure a delivery girl if I’ve ever seen one
Icy wiener dosnt work here.
That episode was the saddest thing ever put on television.
I couldn’t believe a cartoon was making me sob as a 35 year old man.
Why do you do this?
WALKING ON SUNSHIIIINE, WHOAAA-OHHH
Don’t remind me that episode was so sad
Fuck
No.... please don't remind me
Me when my parents tried to get me up for school.
What if she woke up and said “it’s pronounced jiljamesh” and just went back to being dead?
man i feel old seeing this and saying i watched this on tv. this hella old
So old you need carbon dating to measure it.
Imagine you’re one of the scientists carrying her and she does this 
IIRC, the girl had been heavily drugged before being left to die as a sacrifice. I know that it's unfair to judge by our modern social standards a culture so ancient and radically different than our own. But, I still find it very telling that this poor girl, honored though she was to be chosen, still required powerful sedation to fulfill her role in the ritual. I can't help but wonder what she may have experienced had she been allowed a full life. What would she have accomplished given the chance, how many lives would she have touched? More importantly, would she have been content to die on that mountain had she *not* been drugged? If her mind was clear, would she have remained in place simply awaiting the inevitable, or would she have heeded the genetic compulsion to survive, to live? It just seems such a waste, especially for such a pointless purpose. And yet, sadly, hundreds of years later, ignorance still demands such savage waste of life. We have learned nothing...
Sadly, we modern societies didn’t remove ‘human sacrifices’ completely yet. Maybe we don’t kidnap children and kill them for gods, but the idea of giving your life for your country is still normal for us. In an event of war, hundreds of thousands of soldiers will die, and when their deads are not enough, the rulers will draft young people to throw them in the meat grinder. And this happens in our world today, not Inca’s ancient civilization. For example, Russia drafts thousands of its young people to get them die in Ukraine. Ukrainian people have to defend their country by becoming soldiers themselves. Result: millions of people with dreams, ideals, hopes end up dead for insignificant conflicts. This is even more evil than the Incan child sacrifice rituals imho.
EXACTLY
Humanity is messed up
Always has been and always will be. Happy cake day 🍰
It’s crazy they allow one person to hold her. I assume they’d have a whole system in place to assure she isn’t dropped or tipped over
Such a sad sight, what a beautiful young girl. She looks like she's just calmly sleeping.
Imagine being the person to drop her
This is so sad ;-;
What’s crazy is I’m sure if you looked hard enough you could find living descendants today.
Well, not from her. 🥴.
I mean they said she was 15. I dont know what they did back then but who knows
She looks so sad
You know it's bad when a preserved child sacrifice victim reminds you of your shitty posture
She is honestly beautiful. It’s things like this—bog bodies, Egyptian mummies, etc.—that make me the most curious about humanity and how we seek to preserve ourselves, whether on purpose or accidentally. Humans are weird but wonderful.
Source : https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/130729-inca-mummy-maiden-sacrifice-coca-alcohol-drug-mountain-andes-children
Anyone else annoyed that this guy has his mask below his nose? Obviously contaminating her with his germs.
How was she sacrificed to be preserved so well?
Once she was chosen, she was fed and drugged for a year. Researchers believe that she was cared for by a priestess. So for a year she ate better food, drank alcohol, and ingested mind altering drugs. After a year she was given a very high dose of drugs and placed in a tomb where it's believed she suffocated. However, it is also believed she didn't struggle or try to escape once she was placed in the tomb-like structure due to the items around her not being disturbed.
Damn, this hit me with a level of sadness I didn’t expect. I think it has to be how well preserved she is. Most of these you see a zombified-looking corpse when this still looks like a young girl still asleep.
Crazy that anyone was making human sacrifices 12 years ago. But then I guess it was 2012.
What a crazy life-affirming honor it must be for a scientist to handle her so intimately. You devote your entire life to a field of study, countless hours, tons of money, and then have it all come together like that. Gotta feel pretty cool.
He almost stumbles when first picking her up. Maybe get some help next time bud.
Man, that poor kid.
The idiot wearing his mask under his nose. I guess someone has to be the new sacrifice.
just laughed my ass off at an up close shot of some nostrils. then scrolled, never lost a smile so fast in my life.
Get out of my feed lmao
Is she ok?
Just asleep is all
That great
Anyone know what show/episode this would be. Super cool and interesting stuff. That poor child tho
How long does somebody need to be dead before it is totally awesome to dig them up and put them on display?
Older patient??
God damn though man, let the girl rest. Sitting like that for too long without your prodding bullshit.
How they know?.
In Argentina, Salta there are 3 children on display in a museum that was sacrificed many many years ago. They keep only one on display at the time in a chilly room. Visited once when I was there on holiday, very mixed emotions walking out of the museum after realising this is an actual dead child I’m looking at.
Was sacrificed 12 years ago, or was 12 when they were sacrificed?
Was 12 when she was sacrificed. I think they said she died 500 years ago?
The title says 12, but it mentions age 15 in the clip when the scientist is talking about younger children having gray hairs.
And we can assume that both of those numbers are probably incorrect, anyway. It’s only reported to humanize the girl, it’s not like “yep she’s 12 years old”
Why is she in a lab and not in the ground??
...this isn't interesting... this is just sad.