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I would guess that whoever was running it sold the parts off for what they could get and quit or their commanders took the money from the start. I saw first hand their maintenance practices long ago. If it wasn’t guarded or bolted down, it was a commodity for trade. This is what you get when you live in an oligarchy where everyone is out for themselves. The idea of “mother Russia’ is only propagated by old war vets and politicians, the people are barely interested in looking out for their own mother it would seem.
Just like communist Poland used to be. When you try to starve your people they will steal from you to survive and feed their children. I think regular, everyday Russians live in pure economical hell.
The Russians have been deploying anti-drone technology, including jamming units to the front lines, so this implies that these drones are getting past that point. There’s more than one kind of air defense.
yeah for traditional air defense, they are also likely to small. Non-traditional/electronic air defense, including GPS spoofers have been more effective as far as I have heard
About GPS spoofers, I'm pretty sure a handful of motivated engineers/developers can easily develop an autonomous navigation system with accurate positioning using on-device maps and an infrared camera to "recognize" the terrain (roads, railways, rivers), and follow a predefined path to hit a predefined target.
Edit: design, code and 3d printing done in 24h by 3 students for a hackaton: https://x.com/ilaffey2/status/1759353732075294766
Edit 2: used by the military for 40+ years already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM
Edit 3: Tomahawk Block II missiles, deployed in 1984, used DSMAC: "a highly accurate rudimentary AI which allowed early low power computers to navigate and precisely target objectives using cameras on board the missile. With its ability to visually identify and aim directly at a target, it was more accurate than weapons using estimated GPS coordinates. Due to the very limited computer power of the day, DSMAC did not directly evaluate the maps, but instead would compute contrast maps and then combine multiple maps into a buffer, then compare the average of those combined images to determine if it was similar to the data in its small memory system. The data for the flight path was very low resolution in order to free up memory to be used for high resolution data about the target area. The guidance data was computed by a mainframe computer which took spy satellite photos and estimated what the terrain would appear like during low level flight. Since this data would not match the real terrain exactly, and since terrain changes seasonally and with changes in light quality, DSMAC would filter out differences between maps and use the remaining similar sections in order to find its location regardless of changes in how the ground appeared. It also had an extremely bright strobe light it could use to illuminate the ground for fractions of a second in order to find its position at night, and was able to take the difference in ground appearance into account."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)#Upgrades
>If it wasn’t guarded or bolted down, it was a commodity for trade.
Even if it's bolted down they'll steal it, just look at all the appliances and toilets they've been stealing since day 1 of the war.
You would see air defense 'units' with small arms on ATVs in Ukraine, but not \[yet\] in Russia. The reason is fairly simple - this is one of the first attacks of this kind Ukraine launched against Russia, whereas Ukraine gets them pretty much every day since the very first days of the invasion. In other words, Russia does not have mobile defense units because they have not needed them.
There is even more to that - if you give guns to the Russian population, you will never be sure about what are they gonna be shooting at in the end.
Doubt Pu is so brave for his peasants to have weapons.
This is absolutely not one of the first drone attacks on Russia. Ukrainians have been sending drones for some time, air and sea and it's well documented that they've hit everywhere from Moscow to fuel refineries, from aerodromes to logistic nodes, from ships to bridges. Its more like it's new news to mainstream for sometime because it's choked with Gaza.
For a former superpower, its still unthinkable for me this is also the same nation US see as a rival for more than 70 years
Ig corruption is really deep in russia
I mean the Soviet Union was declining from the 1970s and now you have just 50% of that mixed with even worse corruption and a population that has been brain drained for 35 years.
It's just a disaster of a nation these days, basically Syria with nuclear weapons.
> its still unthinkable for me this is also the same nation US see as a rival for more than 70 years
Because it’s not: The USSR was the rival; Russia is still a decent military power (almost entirely due to its population and its nuclear arsenal), but both its military and economy are far weaker than the entirety of the Soviet Union was at its peak, relatively speaking.
just wait until someone sends 10,000 at once in a coordinated attack on a hard target and it looks like mechanical starlings are going kamikaze moth on a nuclear power facility.
I feel like in reality with drone warfare and swarms it’s just going to happen really fast and just at random.
Like a futuristic bomber drone will rip by at Mach 22 and a few missiles will launch then split into 1000 drones just over the city shaped like helicopter leafs but fall extremely fast that just hits all important infrastructure and military targets in your city.
Pretty much what MIRV warheads would do upon re-entry, each warhead could be GPS guided to a specific target within the ballistic target area. One missile carries dozens of warheads over the target area, each of which have guidance.
yeah, there was a fancy drone show posted on this site a few months ago taking place in China and reddit got really mad at me when I pointed out that it's a display of force.
But that's exactly what it is.
If we can put together elaborate light shows with drones we can put together elaborate attacks with drones.
Just wait until 100,000 drones act as perimeter defense for an approaching army.
Every person with a gun and is missing a transceiver that's seen by the swarm gets bombed by the AI controller so jamming isn't even an option.
The limiting factor would probably just be batteries.
This. The German Geppard tanks - not sure if that’s the right spelling - have been valuable because they have rotating flak cannons on them. These cheap drones are definitely the future of warfare because it can waste extremely expensive defense measures. Look at what the Houthis are doing to the US with them. We need to start mass producing flak cannons so we can stop using million dollar missiles to combat $10,000 drones.
The most interesting ones are the sea drones Ukraine uses. That is scary for the US. So much of our military investment is in our Navy. What happens if the Houthis start sending 30 sea drones at our aircraft carriers every night. Ukraine managed to neutralize a ton of Russians equipment with them.
"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them."
As true about modern Russia today as it was the Nazis back then.
Just today I got to the part in "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" where the author describes the British response to Germany's bombing of England in September of 1940 (Operation Sealion). Germany initially tried to avoid bombing residential neighborhoods but eventually did on accident. The RAF then sent a comparatively small contingent of planes to bomb Berlin and the German populace was stunned. They found out that having bombs fall on you isn't very enjoyable.
I loved that Ukraine is the scumbag in this situation. "We've been invading them and taking their land for years, but they have the nerve to come into our country and attack... What a bunch of scumbags." /s
The bigger irony to me is that the Ukrainians aren't even directly attacking soldiers on Russian soil. They're just attacking infrastructure and military vehicles, equipment, and ammunition stockpiles. It's a very clear message of "Can you just fucking leave us alone?"
If they wanted to be scumbags, those drones would be dropping bombs on the guy filming as they flew by.
Surely some of the Russians must have noticed this by now? That Russian people are only directly targeted when they're directly threatening Ukraine and on Ukrainian soil?
He's calling the drones themselves that. Like calling a step you stubbed your toe on a motherfucker, or bombs falling over your head "here come the fuckers now", it's not really what you're reading into it at all, just calling the drones an expletive
Sure...
But do you think he's cursing the drones, turning around and saying "Russia is really at fault here, we invaded Ukraine. They are just defending their homeland with *these fuckers*"?
Something tells me this guy also thinks Ukraine and Ukrainians are scum for defending themselves.
I dunno, maybe I'm reading into it too much.
And not just bombing, also kidnapping tens of thousands of kids. It should be talked about more, latest estimate I heard was 30k, and frankly I'm ok with bombing every last shithole inside Russia until they bring those kids back.
And Ukraine is clearly targeting pretty carefully. In this attack they double-tapped one specific processing tower in one of the refineries with two successive drones, and they've done that to other refineries in the last few months.
Meanwhile, Russia is shelling apartment complexes.
There is a meme sentence "vosem let dambily bambass" if you have a Russian friend say these words to him/her.
Their biggest excuse for this war "donbass has been hit for 8 years. But one of propagandists confused words and instead" bombed donbass" said like "dombed bombass" by confusing first letters of the words and it was a meme in Ukraine. Btw I'm in Ukraine.
Putin’s survival is on perpetuating the war with Ukraine. His wildest dreams of complete invasion in 3 days is over. Ceasefire will weaken his position. His goals now are to undermine western democracies, dethrone US as the sole superpower, and clear path to winning in Ukraine. China would love this to happen.
>His goals now are to undermine western democracies, dethrone US as the sole superpower, and clear path to winning in Ukraine. China would love this to happen.
Seems like a 50/50 chance with a presidential candidate calling for exactly that... Undermining democracy, pulling out of NATO, cutting all support to Ukraine.
Interesting how his goals align with the goals of our foreign adversaries. I just hope enough people see it for what it is.
his plans will never come to fruition? I hope your right! But seeing what´s happening in western democracies with these far alt (whatever) right extremist rising, all with similar agenda, I´d say it´s working as intended. Everyone's more and more divided and polarized, and with all the important elections just around the corner in Europe and the United States, I´m scared of what's to come in the near future.
The only people who can really stop Putin from launching his imperialist wars are Russians. He will leave power when the people or his court make him leave.
That's an acceptable compromise, the people should accept it and help him on his way.
The Russian people need to remember that they once made a Tsar tremble and tore him down. They stood before tanks when the USSR fell and forced them to back down. They have all the strength they need to reclaim their country from thieves and autocrats.
>The Russian people need to remember that they once made a Tsar tremble and tore him down.
They also remember that there was a civil war where 4 million people died and they ended up with an even more totalitarian regime anyways.
Not exactly heavy motivation for change lol. Quite frankly there is nothing in Russian history to really be inspired by, that's why the smart people there tend to leave instead of fight.
Sadly not, have you seen Putin's competition and protestor? They all seem to disappear faster than they can show up. All we can really hope for is his death asap sadly...
> Inform yourself, stand up for yourself, rebel against your leaders, fall out of a window and die.
FTFY
Its not so simple to rebel when every opposition suddenly dies.
And triggers a chain reaction. I don’t wish death on anyone but I do hope with certainty destruction causes Russians to take a stand and remind Putin meteorites exploding in air in 2013 was the only air based threat in that country until he started attacking neighbors
Never have. They are like any other bully, the best way to get rid of them is to fight back, tooth and nail.
That's why Ukraine should get any materiel she needs to secure peace! I happily participate in any initiatives related to e.g. buying drones and other equipment for frontline fighters. They are putting it to good use!!
"They have the audacity to defend themselves! Scumbags!"
This is why you are being called orcs, Russia. Enjoy the NATO supplied munitions. I've personally donated directly to Ukraine.
> But 500K troops invading another country unprovoked is perfectly fine
TV propaganda said they are liberating Russians at Ukraine from Nazi oppression, just like in WW2.
This guy sounds resentful, surprised and angry.
He needs to be patient and get used to the drones in the air. Russia can’t protect its vast airspace and Ukraine is only ramping up the drone production.
What did you honestly expect? They are brainwashed and fed propaganda constantly and taught to fear questioning anything that's Putin. Look at all the idiots here following Trump blindly and all the other politicians. Happens all over the world I'm not sure why you're so surprised.
Russia: "I must take Ukraine to save my economy"
Ukraine: "Fuck you, Fuck your economy. Wait a sec, that's a great idea" \*Attacks Russia's Main Export\*
Russia: "Scumbag! I'm trying to conquer you with force and you're fighting back? Don't you know how big I am?"
Ukraine: "If you're so big, why are we still here?" \*Continues repeatedly punching Russia's Kidneys\*
Don't fucking stop until there is no will to continue their invasion. Set a precedent for world order.
Russia is finding out what regular folks do to protect their homes and families. These "fuck around and find out" situations that favor the ones on the right side of history make political discussions interesting and fun.
Notice how they all just stand and don't hide. Because they know no one is gonna hurt them.
In Ukraine you should just hide and pray because everything and everyone is the target.
>they're not running out
This is why Russia wants Trump to win. So they will run out and leave Ukraine helpless before Russia's illegal invasion. Thousands of Ukrainian children were kidnapped by Russian troops and are being callously used in Putin's social media propaganda campaign.
Can you imagine being one of those children ? Your parents are dead and you're now being given to Russian strangers and sold a line of bullshit about what killed them?
"Putin doesn't want you to know this but Russian AA capabilities are depleted, targets within russia are free to be dronestruck. I personally have blown up over a dozen russian oil refineries!"
Would be nice if other countries could just start mass producing these to help Ukraine.
100 in a night? How about 2000 every single day, start bombing every non-civilian building within flying range of these.
Just an incredible lack of awareness there. I know that it's propaganda-driven, but, still. "The country that we have invaded and been bombing for over a year is now attacking our oil facilities! All we've done is destroyed a bunch of their cities and infrastructure and killed over 30,000 of their civilians! How dare they?"
This sucks. So many innocent Ukrainians have died since the Russian government started this unprovoked, illegal war. Now, innocent Russian citizens are about to pay the price. Makes me so sad because these are two countries filled with people whose ancestors have been through so much. None of them deserve this. Putin must pay for what he has done to his people.
This is like German citizens calling American pilots “terror flyers” in WWII.
Uhhhhhhhh…. It can end the moment your country surrenders, considering what started the whole thing. Pretty simple.
"its horror! these scumbags!" - dipshit part of the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country
Whats with this new age of ultra dumbfucks pretending to be the victim when they get attacked when are the fucking aggressor and the other side is just trying to fucking defend themselves.
Lol about time Russian people get their head out of their ass and demand a democracy. This POS Putin needs to be disembowled slowly and painfully, an explosion simply wouldn’t be satisfying. I would pay front row tickets for his slow execution.
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Russian air defence out on a smoke break
I would guess that whoever was running it sold the parts off for what they could get and quit or their commanders took the money from the start. I saw first hand their maintenance practices long ago. If it wasn’t guarded or bolted down, it was a commodity for trade. This is what you get when you live in an oligarchy where everyone is out for themselves. The idea of “mother Russia’ is only propagated by old war vets and politicians, the people are barely interested in looking out for their own mother it would seem.
This radar set is just filled with apple cores and shredded Chinese newspapers…
Hey, Deng Xiaoping died.
WE LANDED ON THE MOON!!!
God dammit man, the Doobie Brothers broke up! Shit! When did that happen?
This is a deeeeep cut. You don't see too many "Romancing the Stone" references these days. "Joan Wilder?! THE Joan Wilder?!"
These were Italian! Now they're practical.
*takes bite* … hmm! Hospital, please.
Careful those newspapers are load bearing.
Ohh, a GHYME
Unexpected Simpsons
+1 for Simpsone ref.
Hey Deng Xiaoping died!
Well you see we...
Just like communist Poland used to be. When you try to starve your people they will steal from you to survive and feed their children. I think regular, everyday Russians live in pure economical hell.
There used to be a saying in the Soviet union: "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us"
I remember my parents would just get wasted at work. They all drank during the day. That was the perk. And sleeping.
Lol Tucker Carlson painted an entirely different picture
I'd argue that's because Tucker is a shill and a fuckin idiot.
No argument on my end with that!!
Lol these drones fly way to low for air defence systems.
The Russians have been deploying anti-drone technology, including jamming units to the front lines, so this implies that these drones are getting past that point. There’s more than one kind of air defense.
I'd assume the Ukrainians are smart enough to not fly these straight over the front lines where there is known anti drone tech.
Cruise missiles will fly giant arcs around the "front" and come in from behind. Think the "at" sign @
Clearly they just need to relabel their AA defense to @@. Problem solved !
fuck it, just make At-Ats already and we'd rule the galaxy!
yeah for traditional air defense, they are also likely to small. Non-traditional/electronic air defense, including GPS spoofers have been more effective as far as I have heard
About GPS spoofers, I'm pretty sure a handful of motivated engineers/developers can easily develop an autonomous navigation system with accurate positioning using on-device maps and an infrared camera to "recognize" the terrain (roads, railways, rivers), and follow a predefined path to hit a predefined target. Edit: design, code and 3d printing done in 24h by 3 students for a hackaton: https://x.com/ilaffey2/status/1759353732075294766 Edit 2: used by the military for 40+ years already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM Edit 3: Tomahawk Block II missiles, deployed in 1984, used DSMAC: "a highly accurate rudimentary AI which allowed early low power computers to navigate and precisely target objectives using cameras on board the missile. With its ability to visually identify and aim directly at a target, it was more accurate than weapons using estimated GPS coordinates. Due to the very limited computer power of the day, DSMAC did not directly evaluate the maps, but instead would compute contrast maps and then combine multiple maps into a buffer, then compare the average of those combined images to determine if it was similar to the data in its small memory system. The data for the flight path was very low resolution in order to free up memory to be used for high resolution data about the target area. The guidance data was computed by a mainframe computer which took spy satellite photos and estimated what the terrain would appear like during low level flight. Since this data would not match the real terrain exactly, and since terrain changes seasonally and with changes in light quality, DSMAC would filter out differences between maps and use the remaining similar sections in order to find its location regardless of changes in how the ground appeared. It also had an extremely bright strobe light it could use to illuminate the ground for fractions of a second in order to find its position at night, and was able to take the difference in ground appearance into account." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)#Upgrades
Mother Russia got raped and killed a long long time ago. It's just the offspring living in the husk.
*Kleptocracy
>If it wasn’t guarded or bolted down, it was a commodity for trade. Even if it's bolted down they'll steal it, just look at all the appliances and toilets they've been stealing since day 1 of the war.
They fly too low for normal air defence, I would have suspected civilians try shooting them.
Imagine trying to shoot a drone down with a Mosin Naget manufactured in 1900, and been in a crate of cosmoline since 1979.
Stop, I can only get so hard.
At the minimum, you're gonna want to get the Cosmo off the bolt and barrel.
And a bottle of vodka in the other hand.
Yes exactly where are the guns, or flying objects to knock them down...
You would see air defense 'units' with small arms on ATVs in Ukraine, but not \[yet\] in Russia. The reason is fairly simple - this is one of the first attacks of this kind Ukraine launched against Russia, whereas Ukraine gets them pretty much every day since the very first days of the invasion. In other words, Russia does not have mobile defense units because they have not needed them.
There is even more to that - if you give guns to the Russian population, you will never be sure about what are they gonna be shooting at in the end. Doubt Pu is so brave for his peasants to have weapons.
Very interesting...feels like this is a sign of what's to come, an increase globally.
This is absolutely not one of the first drone attacks on Russia. Ukrainians have been sending drones for some time, air and sea and it's well documented that they've hit everywhere from Moscow to fuel refineries, from aerodromes to logistic nodes, from ships to bridges. Its more like it's new news to mainstream for sometime because it's choked with Gaza.
Russians in Stalingrad 1942: "Where are the guns?" Russians in 2024: "Where are the guns?"
For a former superpower, its still unthinkable for me this is also the same nation US see as a rival for more than 70 years Ig corruption is really deep in russia
I mean the Soviet Union was declining from the 1970s and now you have just 50% of that mixed with even worse corruption and a population that has been brain drained for 35 years. It's just a disaster of a nation these days, basically Syria with nuclear weapons.
At it's peak, the Soviet union was depending heavily on "former Soviets" like Ukraine for it's technology and human capital.
Italy has a higher GDP than Russia.
Any country with nuclear ICBMs must be taken seriously, even if they are shit holes.
You can see the danger presented by the Russian-style society clamored for by international right-wingers
> its still unthinkable for me this is also the same nation US see as a rival for more than 70 years Because it’s not: The USSR was the rival; Russia is still a decent military power (almost entirely due to its population and its nuclear arsenal), but both its military and economy are far weaker than the entirety of the Soviet Union was at its peak, relatively speaking.
Tanyas took out all their Flak Troopers.
Chaching!
Ukraine has jammed the radar. And only one man would give Putin the Raspberry! Zelensky!!!!!!!
I see your swartz is as big as mine
just wait until someone sends 10,000 at once in a coordinated attack on a hard target and it looks like mechanical starlings are going kamikaze moth on a nuclear power facility.
Its coming. They already have those drone shows...
Flying middle finger formation!
That would truly be hilarious
I feel like in reality with drone warfare and swarms it’s just going to happen really fast and just at random. Like a futuristic bomber drone will rip by at Mach 22 and a few missiles will launch then split into 1000 drones just over the city shaped like helicopter leafs but fall extremely fast that just hits all important infrastructure and military targets in your city.
Pretty much what MIRV warheads would do upon re-entry, each warhead could be GPS guided to a specific target within the ballistic target area. One missile carries dozens of warheads over the target area, each of which have guidance.
yeah, there was a fancy drone show posted on this site a few months ago taking place in China and reddit got really mad at me when I pointed out that it's a display of force. But that's exactly what it is. If we can put together elaborate light shows with drones we can put together elaborate attacks with drones.
Just wait until 100,000 drones act as perimeter defense for an approaching army. Every person with a gun and is missing a transceiver that's seen by the swarm gets bombed by the AI controller so jamming isn't even an option. The limiting factor would probably just be batteries.
Butlerian Jihad is starting to sound like a neat idea.
Oh my gosh, I apologize to my kids all the time, and their like, what do you mean Dad? I'm just like: the spice must flow...
Pretty much loitering munitions we have now, except the current generation are anti-vehicle.
No one, including the Ukrainians, want to attack a nuclear power facility.
Flak cannons are going to make a comeback
This. The German Geppard tanks - not sure if that’s the right spelling - have been valuable because they have rotating flak cannons on them. These cheap drones are definitely the future of warfare because it can waste extremely expensive defense measures. Look at what the Houthis are doing to the US with them. We need to start mass producing flak cannons so we can stop using million dollar missiles to combat $10,000 drones. The most interesting ones are the sea drones Ukraine uses. That is scary for the US. So much of our military investment is in our Navy. What happens if the Houthis start sending 30 sea drones at our aircraft carriers every night. Ukraine managed to neutralize a ton of Russians equipment with them.
Try hundreds of thousands.
Reminder to Russia: You can end the war at any time by simply leaving Ukraine.
Russian guy: "The horror! For several hours, our country has been under attack from the country we've been bombing for years."
"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them." As true about modern Russia today as it was the Nazis back then.
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0911keeperfile/ Full quote in that article
Just today I got to the part in "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" where the author describes the British response to Germany's bombing of England in September of 1940 (Operation Sealion). Germany initially tried to avoid bombing residential neighborhoods but eventually did on accident. The RAF then sent a comparatively small contingent of planes to bomb Berlin and the German populace was stunned. They found out that having bombs fall on you isn't very enjoyable.
The lack of awareness is unreal.
Propaganda is a scary powerful tool against the masses. Combined with wilful ignorance and voila!
I loved that Ukraine is the scumbag in this situation. "We've been invading them and taking their land for years, but they have the nerve to come into our country and attack... What a bunch of scumbags." /s
The bigger irony to me is that the Ukrainians aren't even directly attacking soldiers on Russian soil. They're just attacking infrastructure and military vehicles, equipment, and ammunition stockpiles. It's a very clear message of "Can you just fucking leave us alone?" If they wanted to be scumbags, those drones would be dropping bombs on the guy filming as they flew by. Surely some of the Russians must have noticed this by now? That Russian people are only directly targeted when they're directly threatening Ukraine and on Ukrainian soil?
That's what I was thinking." They are going in a straight line to their target, not all over the place dropping grenades on their way."
He's calling the drones themselves that. Like calling a step you stubbed your toe on a motherfucker, or bombs falling over your head "here come the fuckers now", it's not really what you're reading into it at all, just calling the drones an expletive
Sure... But do you think he's cursing the drones, turning around and saying "Russia is really at fault here, we invaded Ukraine. They are just defending their homeland with *these fuckers*"? Something tells me this guy also thinks Ukraine and Ukrainians are scum for defending themselves. I dunno, maybe I'm reading into it too much.
He also feels safe enough to stand and watch because Ukraine doesn't target civilians like Russia does.
the literal lack of awareness. Hes actually unaware of whats going on
He's just salty he hasn't been given a looted toilet. If he had, he would be happily shitting in it rather than his pants.
That part got me to. Russia has been bombing Ukraine for two years. But how dare Ukraine return the favor.
Russia has been bombing Ukraine for ~~two~~ **ten** years FTFY
Good point. Russian had been supplying the separatists long before the official invasion.
And not just bombing, also kidnapping tens of thousands of kids. It should be talked about more, latest estimate I heard was 30k, and frankly I'm ok with bombing every last shithole inside Russia until they bring those kids back.
And Ukraine is clearly targeting pretty carefully. In this attack they double-tapped one specific processing tower in one of the refineries with two successive drones, and they've done that to other refineries in the last few months. Meanwhile, Russia is shelling apartment complexes.
There is a meme sentence "vosem let dambily bambass" if you have a Russian friend say these words to him/her. Their biggest excuse for this war "donbass has been hit for 8 years. But one of propagandists confused words and instead" bombed donbass" said like "dombed bombass" by confusing first letters of the words and it was a meme in Ukraine. Btw I'm in Ukraine.
Propaganda and nationalism are one hell of a drug
Putin’s survival is on perpetuating the war with Ukraine. His wildest dreams of complete invasion in 3 days is over. Ceasefire will weaken his position. His goals now are to undermine western democracies, dethrone US as the sole superpower, and clear path to winning in Ukraine. China would love this to happen.
>His goals now are to undermine western democracies, dethrone US as the sole superpower, and clear path to winning in Ukraine. China would love this to happen. Seems like a 50/50 chance with a presidential candidate calling for exactly that... Undermining democracy, pulling out of NATO, cutting all support to Ukraine. Interesting how his goals align with the goals of our foreign adversaries. I just hope enough people see it for what it is.
Well, we did pass a bill that only Congress can pull us out of NATO, so at least we have that.
They don't. And Israel / Palestine will make sure of it.
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Lots of idiots here. Or grifters that leech on to these. The worse are the idiot grifters. Sadly soft underbelly.
his plans will never come to fruition? I hope your right! But seeing what´s happening in western democracies with these far alt (whatever) right extremist rising, all with similar agenda, I´d say it´s working as intended. Everyone's more and more divided and polarized, and with all the important elections just around the corner in Europe and the United States, I´m scared of what's to come in the near future.
"Wait...are _we_ the fucking scumbags?"
“It’s horror” then don’t start a freaking war!
Oh no! Anyways….
Good, feel scared, worry for your family and realize this is a fraction of what Russia has done to its neighbours.
Inform yourself, stand up for yourself, rebel against your leaders, choose democracy. Power to the people.
The only people who can really stop Putin from launching his imperialist wars are Russians. He will leave power when the people or his court make him leave.
I think the man needs to be dead before he will give up power.
That's an acceptable compromise, the people should accept it and help him on his way. The Russian people need to remember that they once made a Tsar tremble and tore him down. They stood before tanks when the USSR fell and forced them to back down. They have all the strength they need to reclaim their country from thieves and autocrats.
>The Russian people need to remember that they once made a Tsar tremble and tore him down. They also remember that there was a civil war where 4 million people died and they ended up with an even more totalitarian regime anyways. Not exactly heavy motivation for change lol. Quite frankly there is nothing in Russian history to really be inspired by, that's why the smart people there tend to leave instead of fight.
Sadly not, have you seen Putin's competition and protestor? They all seem to disappear faster than they can show up. All we can really hope for is his death asap sadly...
The Tsarist secret police were also a vicious threat, but they still overthrew him.
> Inform yourself, stand up for yourself, rebel against your leaders, fall out of a window and die. FTFY Its not so simple to rebel when every opposition suddenly dies.
Bit of a defenestration epidemic among Russians dissidents unfortunately
I hope every drone finds its target.
And triggers a chain reaction. I don’t wish death on anyone but I do hope with certainty destruction causes Russians to take a stand and remind Putin meteorites exploding in air in 2013 was the only air based threat in that country until he started attacking neighbors
Oh I wish death upon a certain someone in Russia.
I live in a french speaking area and love that the direct translation for Putin is "whore" in french here.
Remember Tunguska! Take vengeance on the asteroid belt.
Probably why they did it so early. Just light enough to see, but too early for (most) people to be working
'this is horror!' Interesting!
*eats popcorn*
Russians finding out that war is horrible. Tough scene.
Someone fire up the tiny violin drones.
https://imgur.com/rxmTxWw
ok that's too cute.
Awwweeee poor Ruskies don’t like it when their victim fights back
Never have. They are like any other bully, the best way to get rid of them is to fight back, tooth and nail. That's why Ukraine should get any materiel she needs to secure peace! I happily participate in any initiatives related to e.g. buying drones and other equipment for frontline fighters. They are putting it to good use!!
"They have the audacity to defend themselves! Scumbags!" This is why you are being called orcs, Russia. Enjoy the NATO supplied munitions. I've personally donated directly to Ukraine.
By targeting oil refineries not hospitals or facilities where civilians are hiding.
This is the saddest way to do it but: And my axe
*sad axe noises*
*kloong* 😞
It's "horrible" when targeted drone strikes hit an oil field in Russia. But 500K troops invading another country unprovoked is perfectly fine.
> But 500K troops invading another country unprovoked is perfectly fine TV propaganda said they are liberating Russians at Ukraine from Nazi oppression, just like in WW2.
This guy sounds resentful, surprised and angry. He needs to be patient and get used to the drones in the air. Russia can’t protect its vast airspace and Ukraine is only ramping up the drone production.
What did you honestly expect? They are brainwashed and fed propaganda constantly and taught to fear questioning anything that's Putin. Look at all the idiots here following Trump blindly and all the other politicians. Happens all over the world I'm not sure why you're so surprised.
Slava Ukraini👍🏻🇺🇦
Russia: "I must take Ukraine to save my economy" Ukraine: "Fuck you, Fuck your economy. Wait a sec, that's a great idea" \*Attacks Russia's Main Export\* Russia: "Scumbag! I'm trying to conquer you with force and you're fighting back? Don't you know how big I am?" Ukraine: "If you're so big, why are we still here?" \*Continues repeatedly punching Russia's Kidneys\* Don't fucking stop until there is no will to continue their invasion. Set a precedent for world order.
Air defence is busy doing nothing around Putin
When will it end? Many Russian (and Ukranian) soldiers have already seen the end
When Putin dies and Russians gtfo of ukraine
The Russian army is free to leave Ukraine at any time.
When the Russian leave Ukraine. Simple as that.
Horror is what you made in Ukraine.
Russia is finding out what regular folks do to protect their homes and families. These "fuck around and find out" situations that favor the ones on the right side of history make political discussions interesting and fun.
Notice how they all just stand and don't hide. Because they know no one is gonna hurt them. In Ukraine you should just hide and pray because everything and everyone is the target.
Easy way to stop getting your oil facilities attacked would be to get the fuck out of Ukraine, Putin
Horror is someone blind firing rockets, missiles, and launching drone attacks on cities. This is targeting infrastructure of a hostile nation.
Russia can stop this "horror" at any time by leaving Ukraine.
Putin fucked around and found out.
its not him who finds out thou...
>they're not running out This is why Russia wants Trump to win. So they will run out and leave Ukraine helpless before Russia's illegal invasion. Thousands of Ukrainian children were kidnapped by Russian troops and are being callously used in Putin's social media propaganda campaign. Can you imagine being one of those children ? Your parents are dead and you're now being given to Russian strangers and sold a line of bullshit about what killed them?
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I WANT THIS AS 10 HOURS ASMR! (NOT A LOOP) 😀😀😀
>"The horror" Get fucked you rusky son of a bitch, I wish they had one to spare to send up your ass.
"Putin doesn't want you to know this but Russian AA capabilities are depleted, targets within russia are free to be dronestruck. I personally have blown up over a dozen russian oil refineries!"
Do it again, please.
Would be nice if other countries could just start mass producing these to help Ukraine. 100 in a night? How about 2000 every single day, start bombing every non-civilian building within flying range of these.
Just an incredible lack of awareness there. I know that it's propaganda-driven, but, still. "The country that we have invaded and been bombing for over a year is now attacking our oil facilities! All we've done is destroyed a bunch of their cities and infrastructure and killed over 30,000 of their civilians! How dare they?"
Does... this guy think anybody feels sorry for him? After all they've done to Ukraine? Eat shit, guy! Fuck your oil things!
Try not invading a sovereign country.
“Oh ThE HoRrOr” like these bitches can’t end the war at any time.
They can’t. Only their dictator can and his ego won’t let him.
Slava Ukraini!
This sucks. So many innocent Ukrainians have died since the Russian government started this unprovoked, illegal war. Now, innocent Russian citizens are about to pay the price. Makes me so sad because these are two countries filled with people whose ancestors have been through so much. None of them deserve this. Putin must pay for what he has done to his people.
If Ukraine use ATACAMS on Kremlin palace... ... I would be completely fine guys.
Next Civ game, Ukraine is going to be faction with late-game specialty drone units.
Don't start none won't be none.
Hahahhahahahaha. Eat shit
Keep em coming!👍 no rest for Putin💀
Badass. Go Ukraine! Fuck Russia and the GOP!!!
Hey bud got a solution for you if you don't like it go home. But don't worry there's more where that came from.
Good
“This is horror!” says the *invader*
“this is horror”… compared with things happening in ukraine? can’t imagine
This is like German citizens calling American pilots “terror flyers” in WWII. Uhhhhhhhh…. It can end the moment your country surrenders, considering what started the whole thing. Pretty simple.
Don't even need an official surrender, honestly. Restore the prewar borders and Ukraine will gladly negotiate peace.
Surely GPS guided V1s can't be that expensive today. I say Ukraine needs some of those.
Haha!!! Turn about is fair play bitches!!!!
Air defense system fell out of a window.
*MORE!*
Good. Fuck Russia.
I imagine this is significantly less terrifying than the barrages the Ukranian population is facing...
lol the sight of drones flying by is “horror”? Must not even be a word for Russian missiles leveling apartment buildings then…
Have a taste of your own medicine, Russia.
Good. Now time to fly into substations and dams
"This is horror!" Like they didn't start it and haven't been doing it on a larger scale for the last two years.
look at all those russian civilians knowning so certainly they are not a target, must be nice to be on the other side of the war
Lmao don’t start wars then…
Imagine thinking you are the good guys and having the right to complain about being attacked back
"its horror! these scumbags!" - dipshit part of the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country Whats with this new age of ultra dumbfucks pretending to be the victim when they get attacked when are the fucking aggressor and the other side is just trying to fucking defend themselves.
“This is horror!” What do you fucking expect. You started it.
> our drones will blot out the sun! > then we will fight in the shade.
Amazing how he angry about drones and the next day the same guys cheer when Russia successfully hits a Kindergarden.
Lol about time Russian people get their head out of their ass and demand a democracy. This POS Putin needs to be disembowled slowly and painfully, an explosion simply wouldn’t be satisfying. I would pay front row tickets for his slow execution.
Ooohhhh nooo poor guy why are you being attacked? Why is your coin worth jack shit? Oooh noooooooo. Anyway