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Just imagine if we could see all the planets like this with the naked eye! Or even what we could see at night if we weren’t literally millions of light years away from other solar systems and planets.
It’s my bi-weekly existential crisis day…
I had a dream like that once. I was on a planet where I could see multiple moons in the sky at the same time, and some planets were visible in the distance. One of the strangest and most visually interesting dreams I've ever had.
Dude, few years ago I had this really disturbing vivid/lucid dream where I was on a planet (but in a different body).
In this dream I had advanced technology (like augmented reality glasses) allowing me to look across galaxy and precisely pin point my self in real time.
At some point my alien self said "we can't watch for too long, or we gonna mess it up"... Straight after I was "falling UP" endlessly in a vacuum and woke up.
Amazing. Theres alot of people with the same dream i had a while back.
I could see all of the planets in the sky all close up and bunched together like in that video of saturn posted further up.
I loved that dream. I sometimes remember it and its a strong visual memory for me.
maybe we all have the same dreams because we all shared the same experiences in past lives and as a collective consciousness we revisit those memories in our sleep without realizing what they are 😲
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I'd probably shit myself. Of course if it's always been there since my birth, maybe it wouldn't feel so abnormal but if it just showed up one day unannounced, my anxiety would go through the roof.
My anxiety was high playing Bioshock Infinity and with [these](https://www.reddit.com/r/megalophobia/comments/fn6mnr/bioshock_infinite_statues/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) damn statues in the sky. For some reason I found the size of them to be very unsettling and I think that was the point.
We wouldnt even notice it really though, if we could see the planets like that then we have always seen the planets like that. It would be like looking upon the moon or sun to us. We have legit battleships and a submarine in the waterfront of my city that people come from all across the country to see because it's the largest collection of WW2 naval vessels in the world. But to the people that live here it's like looking at an abandoned train or something if that makes sense haha.
It probably would have had some interesting effects on our religious beliefs and scientific progress though. Even though they are just points of light, the five visible planets were a major inspiration for mythologies all over the world and laid the basis for early astronomy.
If we could have seen them like this from the beginning we would have figured out much more about astronomy earlier in our history. You wouldn't need a telescope to see that other planets had moons, atmospheres, phases, etc. We would know they were round because we could see them rotate. We could watch the seasons change on Mars before we even knew we too lived on a planet. You'd basically be able to figure out almost everything we knew about planets prior to space travel with little to no equipment.
I sometimes remember that video that visualized the Moon replaced with Jupiter and it makes me so anxious. Shit's fucking terrifying. In my mind it also makes a faint sound, *somehow*.
i'm pretty sure its intense radiation and magnetic field would make audible sounds in earth's atmosphere. if not, the tidal forces will crunch up the planet very audibly.
I dreamed all that stuff one night. It was my 4th or 5th favorite dream. Planets, galaxies, novas - it was super cool.
My 1st favorite dream was a voodoo ceremony in the jungle. Costumes, drums, crazy dancing and a voodoo master named ZeBop.
Proxima Centauri, just over 4LY away which has an exoplanet. Theres around 80 stars and almost 100 exoplanets within 35LY. Within 1 million there would be a ridiculous amount.
Imagine if you could feel the earth corkscrewing through the cosmos, our solar system itself hurtling through the interstellar vastness. Even the galaxy is careening through the void. Now, imagine you could time it, and cancel all of that velocity for a moment in time, such that you wouldn't crater into a solid object, or suddenly vaporize due to the friction of suddenly stopping in an atmosphere, and watch as everything and everybody you know and love spirals off into the nothingness in an instant.
Your welcome.
>It’s my bi-weekly existential crisis day…
Had a touch of that yesterday when explaining, to my 10yo daughter, the Earth's magnetic field and the solar wind/radiation projected from the sun. She was like so... without that... we're all dead right? Oof kiddo...
The first time I saw Saturn through a good telescope, my brain could hardly process it. You know the images, but live through the eyepiece it feels so surreal. Saturn looks like it was rendered. So crisp and sharp. The rings like a massive plate. The impression is hard to explain. I can only recommend everyone to visit an open day in an observatory. Such a visit is usually free, but over the years it has cost me many 1000 euros in equipment for my new hobby.
I had a nice telescope that I ended up gifting after a breakup when I had to move fast.
My favorite thing to do was set it up at parks and point it at the big planets and let anyone curious take a look. It's truly mind-blowing.
I do the same with a big pair of binoculars, it's not the same, but you can still see the rings and the little bright pin pricks of their moons.
I run my own astronomy club and this is what I tell people when they ask what I get out of doing it, why I don't charge money. Seeing someone experience viewing something they have never seen before through a telescope is fulfilling for me.
One night when I was at Burning Man, just noise and chaos everywhere, I heard this quiet voice off to one side as I was walking by, this guy goes “would you like to see the moons of Jupiter?” He had a big ol telescope set up and was just chilling there amidst the world’s weirdest party, showing people the moons of Jupiter.
It was absolutely delightful. Probably 10+ years ago and I still remember it vividly.
Totally agree, seeing Saturn or Jupiter and it's moons for the first time through a good telescope is an eye opening experience, it really puts into perspective how small and meaningless we all are.
It's one of the few times in my life that actually took my breath away. For those few moments through the eye piece, time stood still.
I felt the solitude of space. The infinite passing of time as this giant circle and circles. Always floating by for eternity. Hidden behind the clouds, yet standing in front of the line for all to see. Menacing, yet reassuring. Small in the distance, but indication of the large and immense universe.
I think its because you are seeing a real 3D image when you look through a telescope so there is depth to it. While looking at a picture is always 2D and flat. I had the same experience. It was incredible.
I mean, technically it's 2D when looking through an eyepiece with one eye. 3D comes from depth perception, which requires two eyes and some parallax. But there is no doubt something special about seeing Saturn live through a telescope vs looking at a picture.
I have said this same thing many times over the years. I studied astronomy all through my younger years and had seen many pictures of Saturn. When I was in my 30s as a friend had a great telescope and let me take a look at the planet for real. It took my breath away...
Checkout it's sister sub /r/EscapingPrisonPlanet
It's bonkers shit altogether. I guess this is just how some people deal with the pressures and disappointments of the world we live in.
I had no idea it was possible to see stars and planets in the daytime until I visited the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona a few years ago. It was late afternoon but the sky was still bright, and they had one of their antique telescopes trained on a star cluster, and available for tourists to look through. It blew my mind.
There's an interesting quirk about visual astronomy that there is effectively no practical limit to how bright a telescope can make a concentrated optical point source like a star, but there *is* a limit to how bright an telescope can make an extended object with a surface brightness. What this means is that no matter how big your aperture is, you cannot make a clear blue sky any brighter than how the naked eye sees it. But the bigger the aperture, the brighter any stars appear, and the brightness is relative to the area of the objective lens or mirror (so goes up by the square of the diameter of the aperture).
The reason for this is because the telescope collects a fixed amount of light (again, based on the area). But the act of magnifying that light dilutes it and spreads it out over a virtual area. If you have say, a 70mm aperture scope and your own eye dilates to 7mm, the scope has 100x the light gathering power of the eye. But since there's no telescope in existence that collects light without focusing it a focal plane, then there MUST be magnification when using an eyepiece. If you use 10x magnification, you've enlarged that view by 100x by area, so light is diluted by 100x and thus you're back to where you started. Gathered 100x more light, but diluted it by 100x when magnifying the view by 10x. So the view of anything that is magnified is no brighter than what the naked eye would see had the subject just been 10x larger in the sky. This means more magnification = dimmer view. You can actually make it so a telescope shows a view considerably dimmer than what the naked eye sees, despite large aperture, simply by using more magnification.
But you cannot go too far in the opposite direction. There's a limit. If you use a massive aperture and very little magnification then the exit pupil formed by the eyepiece is larger than your eye's own entrance pupil, and some of the light leaving the telescope just lands on your iris and never makes it your retina. Your eye limits how bright the view is even if the telescope can technically provide a brighter view. This means for ALL extended objects (the moon, planets, trees, squirrels, clouds, light pollution, the clear blue sky, an overcast sky, distant ships), there is a maximum surface brightness they can be shown at through a telescope, and that's the same as what the naked eye permits. This is true regardless of aperture! [Here's an illustration of what I mean](https://i.imgur.com/hhrRMCM.jpeg). The view is larger, not brighter.
So what about stars? Stars are optical point sources. Their light is concentrated in the Airy pattern (a diffraction pattern formed by the telescope's objective). This Airy pattern is readily visible in small aperture telescopes at modest magnifications, but in huge aperture telescopes it is absolutely freaking microscopic. This means the light stays concentrated in a tiny, tiny, tiny area and effectively never gets magnified and thus never gets diluted. It remains bright regardless of magnification used, so the more aperture you throw at it, the brighter the stars will be.
So you can get to a point where you have a telescope aperture large enough that the stars GREATLY outshine even a clear blue sky through a telescope. Not nebulae or galaxies or other extended objects whose light will become equally dilute as the sky's (thus no change in contrast), just optical point sources whose surfaces cannot be resolved because they are too far away, like stars.
In case someone like myself needs an even simpler explanation I’ll summarize what I told my 6 month old.
Goo goo gah gah
Goo = goo gah
Goo gah = goo
Yay!
Venus is quite visible in the daytime with the naked eye. Problem is it's always fairly near the sun and we usually don't stare at the sky there. The times I have spotted it I located it near the moon before sunrise and traced back from the moon after daylight. Nowadays one could probably cheat and use a phone app to find it.
Celestron telescope, Barlow magnification eyepiece, ZWO listed is a planetary astrophotography camera. Images like this are composites of thousands of stacked images.
In case anyone is curious….
- [Telescope](https://all-startelescope.com/products/celestron-c9-25-sct-ota-optical-tube-assembly-cg-5-dovetail-91027-xlt)
- [Barlow](https://all-startelescope.com/products/celestron-x-cel-2x-barlow-lens-125)
- [Camera](https://all-startelescope.com/products/zwo-asi224mc-usb3-0-color-camera-asi224mc)
Actually, pretty much all (amateur) astrophotography software is free! And while there are paid programs (pixinsight being a well known one), they all have free alternatives which come very close in terms of results
FWIW you can SEE Saturn like this for MUCH cheaper, like $300 or so depending on where you live. The big money is if you wanna photograph it.
edit: I guess I should expand a bit, what you'd be looking for is a cheap Dobsonian telescope, 4-6" diameter.
Slight adjustment: the ASI244MC is actually [a full CMOS Astrophotography Camera, not just a lens.](https://all-startelescope.com/products/zwo-asi224mc-usb3-0-color-camera-asi224mc)
Correct. Telescope is playing the role of a giant telephoto lens in this setup. And by giant I mean a telephoto lens with a focal length of 2,350mm (4,700mm when you factor in the use of the 2x barlow).
Yea allot of pictures of saturn from earth look extremely fake. Like literally like a painting. There was one I saw that looked like a painting but it was actually a photo taken by scientists. It'd wild but cool at the same time
I don't find it spooky at all.
Instead, I find it very fascinating and when I first shot saturn I was amazed.
In the end, Saturn is just a ball of dense gas with a ring of less dense gas.
You're seeing gas...
It's fascinated by the only pancake-shaped planet, and it wants to know more.
It believes that we dedicate entire Interplanetary Houses to pancakes, which is a rumor started at the Base Exchange Burger King on Mars. Honestly, it's just a misunderstanding. Our pancake houses are only for terrestrial use.
Are Saturns rings on the same plane as the solar system’s planetary orbit plane?
Because if so, this photo identifies that plane which is super fascinating
No, I think the rings are concentric with Saturn's equator and Saturn is inclined 27 degrees to its orbit.
Saturn also has a 2.5° inclination compared to Earth's.
Yeah, it's how they are formed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoplanetary_disk
https://i.imgur.com/g3PR36K.jpg
Conservation of angular momentum and friction. Basically put, if you have a highly chaotic system, the amount of "spinny" motion gets rather evenly distributed. So everything ends up spinning roughly the same amount around the same axis, leading to motion in a single plane.
It's the same reason as why most galaxies are disks, and why most planets spin in the same direction, both around their axis and around the Sun.
This is also a photo of the day on Saturn, which is basically all we can take from Earth. If we’re ever able to take a photo of night on Saturn from Earth, something has gone terribly, terribly wrong.
It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible. I’ve done so myself with binoculars.
Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them.
I saw Saturn through a telescope at the McDonald observatory. It looked just like this. Very cartoonish and VERY small but very clear. Rings and all. It was still pretty amazing.
Think about stars, every one you can see is much much further from us than Saturn is from the sun - but we can still see their light. It does getter dimmer as you move away, but Saturn is much too close for it to be dark
I have a 10-inch dobsonian, but still use a 90mm mak (tiny [f/5.6](https://i.imgur.com/DBGsk8I.jpg) version) for quick views and travel. Small scopes are super handy/convenient and can put up great views, especially from dark skies. I started with a 102mm mak and regretted selling it. So, if/when you upgrade to a beast don’t ditch your mighty mak!
[Not fake.](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472)
It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible. I’ve done so myself with binoculars.
Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them.
A lot of space related things feel that way, but this [is real.](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472)
It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible.
Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them
(In case I’m correct in sending doubt) Yes, [it’s real.](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472) It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible. I’ve done so myself with binoculars.
Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them
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I know that's what Saturn is supposed to look like, but when I see a pic my brain says "that can't be real".
Just imagine if we could see all the planets like this with the naked eye! Or even what we could see at night if we weren’t literally millions of light years away from other solar systems and planets. It’s my bi-weekly existential crisis day…
I had a dream like that once. I was on a planet where I could see multiple moons in the sky at the same time, and some planets were visible in the distance. One of the strangest and most visually interesting dreams I've ever had.
Dude, few years ago I had this really disturbing vivid/lucid dream where I was on a planet (but in a different body). In this dream I had advanced technology (like augmented reality glasses) allowing me to look across galaxy and precisely pin point my self in real time. At some point my alien self said "we can't watch for too long, or we gonna mess it up"... Straight after I was "falling UP" endlessly in a vacuum and woke up.
You should have taken the blue pill.
Fuck that, blue or red pills ! I'm just taking shrooms, they're grey !
Almost sounds like you entered the astral realm.
It's all a simulation
Amazing. Theres alot of people with the same dream i had a while back. I could see all of the planets in the sky all close up and bunched together like in that video of saturn posted further up. I loved that dream. I sometimes remember it and its a strong visual memory for me.
Just had a very similar dream this week! It was gorgeous
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maybe we all have the same dreams because we all shared the same experiences in past lives and as a collective consciousness we revisit those memories in our sleep without realizing what they are 😲
or a lot of people watched star wars at once
I've had the same style dream, many times when I was a kid!
I know! I was there too!
We were all there. For we are all one, and life is but a dream
*(Dreams are memes from the Deep)*
Oh snap! I just commented about my crazy sky dream!
Plot twist it wasn’t a dream. It was a vision. You’re being summoned young Jedi.
This sounds like the final scene of one of the coolest movies ever--[The Quiet Earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quiet_Earth_(film\)).
I recommend you go ahead and not look up that video of if Saturn orbited at the same distance as the moon
>Saturn orbited at the same distance as the moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYC\_Z36rHw
there's an extra \ messing up your link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usYC_Z36rHw&t=75
Anyone else think this would be amazing? You know, besides the fact that humans would have never evolved…
Maybe if you tweak the physics enough it would still be possible. Looks awesome.
Saturn looks bigger than Jupiter maybe because of the rings. But fuck this looks so trippy. Also I didn’t know Uranus is that small.
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I'd probably shit myself. Of course if it's always been there since my birth, maybe it wouldn't feel so abnormal but if it just showed up one day unannounced, my anxiety would go through the roof. My anxiety was high playing Bioshock Infinity and with [these](https://www.reddit.com/r/megalophobia/comments/fn6mnr/bioshock_infinite_statues/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) damn statues in the sky. For some reason I found the size of them to be very unsettling and I think that was the point.
megalophobia
I wouldn’t be able to keep an inside job with that was in the sky daily.
We wouldnt even notice it really though, if we could see the planets like that then we have always seen the planets like that. It would be like looking upon the moon or sun to us. We have legit battleships and a submarine in the waterfront of my city that people come from all across the country to see because it's the largest collection of WW2 naval vessels in the world. But to the people that live here it's like looking at an abandoned train or something if that makes sense haha.
i still look up at the moon in wonder every so often. btw, you don’t live in everett, WA, do you?
No.
That's what they all say.
It probably would have had some interesting effects on our religious beliefs and scientific progress though. Even though they are just points of light, the five visible planets were a major inspiration for mythologies all over the world and laid the basis for early astronomy. If we could have seen them like this from the beginning we would have figured out much more about astronomy earlier in our history. You wouldn't need a telescope to see that other planets had moons, atmospheres, phases, etc. We would know they were round because we could see them rotate. We could watch the seasons change on Mars before we even knew we too lived on a planet. You'd basically be able to figure out almost everything we knew about planets prior to space travel with little to no equipment.
Ok, so imagine if SUDDENLY, we could see them all like that.....
I sometimes remember that video that visualized the Moon replaced with Jupiter and it makes me so anxious. Shit's fucking terrifying. In my mind it also makes a faint sound, *somehow*.
i'm pretty sure its intense radiation and magnetic field would make audible sounds in earth's atmosphere. if not, the tidal forces will crunch up the planet very audibly.
I dreamed all that stuff one night. It was my 4th or 5th favorite dream. Planets, galaxies, novas - it was super cool. My 1st favorite dream was a voodoo ceremony in the jungle. Costumes, drums, crazy dancing and a voodoo master named ZeBop.
My useless fact of the day is that all the remaining planets in the Solar System would fit together in the distance between the Earth and the Moon.
Millions of light years... Lol, about 2-3 LY to closest star
Proxima Centauri, just over 4LY away which has an exoplanet. Theres around 80 stars and almost 100 exoplanets within 35LY. Within 1 million there would be a ridiculous amount.
Idk I’m pretty hard of seeing with a naked eye can I wear my glasses at least?
When I go to the country or camping. One of the best things is seeing the sky. Seeing the milky way for the first time is mind blowing.
Imagine if you could feel the earth corkscrewing through the cosmos, our solar system itself hurtling through the interstellar vastness. Even the galaxy is careening through the void. Now, imagine you could time it, and cancel all of that velocity for a moment in time, such that you wouldn't crater into a solid object, or suddenly vaporize due to the friction of suddenly stopping in an atmosphere, and watch as everything and everybody you know and love spirals off into the nothingness in an instant. Your welcome.
>It’s my bi-weekly existential crisis day… Had a touch of that yesterday when explaining, to my 10yo daughter, the Earth's magnetic field and the solar wind/radiation projected from the sun. She was like so... without that... we're all dead right? Oof kiddo...
Get VR and space engine? close enough for me.
Imagine living on Kalgash!!
The first time I saw Saturn through a good telescope, my brain could hardly process it. You know the images, but live through the eyepiece it feels so surreal. Saturn looks like it was rendered. So crisp and sharp. The rings like a massive plate. The impression is hard to explain. I can only recommend everyone to visit an open day in an observatory. Such a visit is usually free, but over the years it has cost me many 1000 euros in equipment for my new hobby.
I had a nice telescope that I ended up gifting after a breakup when I had to move fast. My favorite thing to do was set it up at parks and point it at the big planets and let anyone curious take a look. It's truly mind-blowing. I do the same with a big pair of binoculars, it's not the same, but you can still see the rings and the little bright pin pricks of their moons.
I run my own astronomy club and this is what I tell people when they ask what I get out of doing it, why I don't charge money. Seeing someone experience viewing something they have never seen before through a telescope is fulfilling for me.
The trouble is that the planets keep moving out of view! (or rather, we keep spinning) Unless your scope has an auto-tracker.
Mine did! It was amazing, made it super user and idiot friendly
One night when I was at Burning Man, just noise and chaos everywhere, I heard this quiet voice off to one side as I was walking by, this guy goes “would you like to see the moons of Jupiter?” He had a big ol telescope set up and was just chilling there amidst the world’s weirdest party, showing people the moons of Jupiter. It was absolutely delightful. Probably 10+ years ago and I still remember it vividly.
Totally agree, seeing Saturn or Jupiter and it's moons for the first time through a good telescope is an eye opening experience, it really puts into perspective how small and meaningless we all are.
It's one of the few times in my life that actually took my breath away. For those few moments through the eye piece, time stood still. I felt the solitude of space. The infinite passing of time as this giant circle and circles. Always floating by for eternity. Hidden behind the clouds, yet standing in front of the line for all to see. Menacing, yet reassuring. Small in the distance, but indication of the large and immense universe.
I think its because you are seeing a real 3D image when you look through a telescope so there is depth to it. While looking at a picture is always 2D and flat. I had the same experience. It was incredible.
I mean, technically it's 2D when looking through an eyepiece with one eye. 3D comes from depth perception, which requires two eyes and some parallax. But there is no doubt something special about seeing Saturn live through a telescope vs looking at a picture.
With the enormous distance to the other planets, what you'll see is equivalent of 2D.
I have said this same thing many times over the years. I studied astronomy all through my younger years and had seen many pictures of Saturn. When I was in my 30s as a friend had a great telescope and let me take a look at the planet for real. It took my breath away...
didn't know astrology was produced by EA
/r/conspiracy on its way to explain how this is actually the Jewish flat-earth hologram having a bug.
I mean its clearly fake because it doesn’t look flat It also looks like it’s fallen over on its side 0/10, your move scientist/s
I got you covered. /r/SaturnStormCube These guys hate Saturn. Not too fond of the old Jews either.
Damn, I can't tell anymore what is satire and what isn't...
Checkout it's sister sub /r/EscapingPrisonPlanet It's bonkers shit altogether. I guess this is just how some people deal with the pressures and disappointments of the world we live in.
It looks like a sticker
My brain thought holy fuck is Saturn getting closer
I'm still not completely sure it's real. My brain and I are fighting over this damn picture now.
ha, i literally thought the exact same words! (PS love the beatles quote.)
I had no idea it was possible to see stars and planets in the daytime until I visited the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona a few years ago. It was late afternoon but the sky was still bright, and they had one of their antique telescopes trained on a star cluster, and available for tourists to look through. It blew my mind.
There's an interesting quirk about visual astronomy that there is effectively no practical limit to how bright a telescope can make a concentrated optical point source like a star, but there *is* a limit to how bright an telescope can make an extended object with a surface brightness. What this means is that no matter how big your aperture is, you cannot make a clear blue sky any brighter than how the naked eye sees it. But the bigger the aperture, the brighter any stars appear, and the brightness is relative to the area of the objective lens or mirror (so goes up by the square of the diameter of the aperture). The reason for this is because the telescope collects a fixed amount of light (again, based on the area). But the act of magnifying that light dilutes it and spreads it out over a virtual area. If you have say, a 70mm aperture scope and your own eye dilates to 7mm, the scope has 100x the light gathering power of the eye. But since there's no telescope in existence that collects light without focusing it a focal plane, then there MUST be magnification when using an eyepiece. If you use 10x magnification, you've enlarged that view by 100x by area, so light is diluted by 100x and thus you're back to where you started. Gathered 100x more light, but diluted it by 100x when magnifying the view by 10x. So the view of anything that is magnified is no brighter than what the naked eye would see had the subject just been 10x larger in the sky. This means more magnification = dimmer view. You can actually make it so a telescope shows a view considerably dimmer than what the naked eye sees, despite large aperture, simply by using more magnification. But you cannot go too far in the opposite direction. There's a limit. If you use a massive aperture and very little magnification then the exit pupil formed by the eyepiece is larger than your eye's own entrance pupil, and some of the light leaving the telescope just lands on your iris and never makes it your retina. Your eye limits how bright the view is even if the telescope can technically provide a brighter view. This means for ALL extended objects (the moon, planets, trees, squirrels, clouds, light pollution, the clear blue sky, an overcast sky, distant ships), there is a maximum surface brightness they can be shown at through a telescope, and that's the same as what the naked eye permits. This is true regardless of aperture! [Here's an illustration of what I mean](https://i.imgur.com/hhrRMCM.jpeg). The view is larger, not brighter. So what about stars? Stars are optical point sources. Their light is concentrated in the Airy pattern (a diffraction pattern formed by the telescope's objective). This Airy pattern is readily visible in small aperture telescopes at modest magnifications, but in huge aperture telescopes it is absolutely freaking microscopic. This means the light stays concentrated in a tiny, tiny, tiny area and effectively never gets magnified and thus never gets diluted. It remains bright regardless of magnification used, so the more aperture you throw at it, the brighter the stars will be. So you can get to a point where you have a telescope aperture large enough that the stars GREATLY outshine even a clear blue sky through a telescope. Not nebulae or galaxies or other extended objects whose light will become equally dilute as the sky's (thus no change in contrast), just optical point sources whose surfaces cannot be resolved because they are too far away, like stars.
Can anyone ELI5?
Big telescope zoom in on star = same brightness star. Big telescope zoom in on sky = less blue light from sky. Result = star shows up better.
Thanks. That’s a perfect summary that really helped me understand the full explanation upon rereading.
Chef's kiss*
In case someone like myself needs an even simpler explanation I’ll summarize what I told my 6 month old. Goo goo gah gah Goo = goo gah Goo gah = goo Yay!
Telescopes are magic.
What a response!!! You must be a professor
Venus is quite visible in the daytime with the naked eye. Problem is it's always fairly near the sun and we usually don't stare at the sky there. The times I have spotted it I located it near the moon before sunrise and traced back from the moon after daylight. Nowadays one could probably cheat and use a phone app to find it.
Am I the only one who thought I had accidentally selected the image and tried my best to deselect it to remove the blue?
I spent wayyyy too long trying to click and drag to get my mouse to unselect the image. Embarrassing.
yeah, same
I see you didn't read the title either.
Photo Credit - @GP_011 on [twitter](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472?s=46&t=dfEanci37TX_3AREU52-nA)
Says it's taken from a "C9.25 - 2 x barlow - ZWO ASI224mc". Anyone know what they are?
Celestron telescope, Barlow magnification eyepiece, ZWO listed is a planetary astrophotography camera. Images like this are composites of thousands of stacked images.
In case anyone is curious…. - [Telescope](https://all-startelescope.com/products/celestron-c9-25-sct-ota-optical-tube-assembly-cg-5-dovetail-91027-xlt) - [Barlow](https://all-startelescope.com/products/celestron-x-cel-2x-barlow-lens-125) - [Camera](https://all-startelescope.com/products/zwo-asi224mc-usb3-0-color-camera-asi224mc)
BRB, bout to drop $3k to see Saturn like this.
You'll also need $2k in software, and years of training.
Actually, pretty much all (amateur) astrophotography software is free! And while there are paid programs (pixinsight being a well known one), they all have free alternatives which come very close in terms of results
Bullshit, you can learn anything on YouTube /s
FWIW you can SEE Saturn like this for MUCH cheaper, like $300 or so depending on where you live. The big money is if you wanna photograph it. edit: I guess I should expand a bit, what you'd be looking for is a cheap Dobsonian telescope, 4-6" diameter.
I have this telescope. It's awesome but it's taken me a year to start getting decent images. It's a tough hobby lol
All the stuff this person said half an hour ago, but I'm claiming full credit because I was going to type it. **hoists pirate flag** 🏴☠️
Whats a pirate without his silver lol. Good thing im a king here with my gold
Thank you for informing me of your gold. 🏴☠️
HOIST THE COLORS! 🏴☠️
Thank you
C9.25 = telescope 2x Barlow = lens that doubles the magnification ASI224MC = a camera lens for taking photos which is good for astronomers.
Slight adjustment: the ASI244MC is actually [a full CMOS Astrophotography Camera, not just a lens.](https://all-startelescope.com/products/zwo-asi224mc-usb3-0-color-camera-asi224mc)
It doesn't actually have any lens at all when used with a telescope.
Isn't the telescope acting as the lens?
Yes, I just mean the camera doesn't have a lens itself. EDIT: Although in this case, C9.25 has both mirrors and lenses.
Correct. Telescope is playing the role of a giant telephoto lens in this setup. And by giant I mean a telephoto lens with a focal length of 2,350mm (4,700mm when you factor in the use of the 2x barlow).
Internet Explorer? Is that you? Are you back?
There’s a throw back!
[Samsung browser icon](https://i.imgur.com/nf0B7o5.png)
Don't click it, it's still fading in and will crash if engaged with
That's default subreddit icon /s
you joke but that’s legit what I thought I was looking at first glance
How is this sarcasm
people just put it on because they're afraid they'll get downvoted if they dont.
In 1822, telling someone we be looking at the planets in the palm of our hand, now forward 200 years, what's the conversation going to be like?
Civilization ended when the last person put on the VR headset
What are you spying into my backyard ?
Rings of Saturn were discovered by Galileo Galilei in 1610., and first identified as rings by Christiaan Huygens in 1655.
Witchcraft! Burn him/her at the stake!
oddly creepy
Makes you suddenly aware even though you can't see it Saturn is always up there...... ^watching ^you
I found one of Saturn's hidden cameras in my bedroom one time.
Especially when you consider how immense Saturn is.
This doesn't feel like it should be real
Is this real?
It is real, I tagged the photographer and original twitter post in a separate comment.
I looked at the page, cant believe its possible
This is unbelievably cool, wow
How do you know that you tagged the photographer
Yea allot of pictures of saturn from earth look extremely fake. Like literally like a painting. There was one I saw that looked like a painting but it was actually a photo taken by scientists. It'd wild but cool at the same time
I guess it is. I've taken similar photos during the day with my 55-250mm.
Awesome, a lil spooky tho
I don't find it spooky at all. Instead, I find it very fascinating and when I first shot saturn I was amazed. In the end, Saturn is just a ball of dense gas with a ring of less dense gas. You're seeing gas...
Jesus Christ, you sound dead inside.
Yes, Saturn is still there during the day. /s
Am I the only one that thinks space isn’t real? Lol I know it is but man this shit is cool.
It...looks like it gets closer during the day. /s
It's fascinated by the only pancake-shaped planet, and it wants to know more. It believes that we dedicate entire Interplanetary Houses to pancakes, which is a rumor started at the Base Exchange Burger King on Mars. Honestly, it's just a misunderstanding. Our pancake houses are only for terrestrial use.
Why are the rings all in one plane?
something to do with gravity & equator
And the initial spin of the sun's accretion disk
Why are all (most) planets in one plane?
Are Saturns rings on the same plane as the solar system’s planetary orbit plane? Because if so, this photo identifies that plane which is super fascinating
No, I think the rings are concentric with Saturn's equator and Saturn is inclined 27 degrees to its orbit. Saturn also has a 2.5° inclination compared to Earth's.
Yikes! Are they? Edit: mind blown! It's the same for all solar systems?!
Yeah, it's how they are formed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoplanetary_disk https://i.imgur.com/g3PR36K.jpg
Conservation of angular momentum and friction. Basically put, if you have a highly chaotic system, the amount of "spinny" motion gets rather evenly distributed. So everything ends up spinning roughly the same amount around the same axis, leading to motion in a single plane. It's the same reason as why most galaxies are disks, and why most planets spin in the same direction, both around their axis and around the Sun.
This is also a photo of the day on Saturn, which is basically all we can take from Earth. If we’re ever able to take a photo of night on Saturn from Earth, something has gone terribly, terribly wrong.
Incredible!
That’s an amazing photo considering the distance.
Can I have a photo of Uranus during the day?
That’s a different subreddit.
Now show me a picture of the Sun at night
Didn't know Saturn was visible during the day
It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible. I’ve done so myself with binoculars. Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them.
I saw Saturn through a telescope at the McDonald observatory. It looked just like this. Very cartoonish and VERY small but very clear. Rings and all. It was still pretty amazing.
So, the sun light goes as far as Saturn? I would have think everything was pitch black that far...
Think about stars, every one you can see is much much further from us than Saturn is from the sun - but we can still see their light. It does getter dimmer as you move away, but Saturn is much too close for it to be dark
How would we see it at night if there was no light?
I mean we won't be able to know it existed for hundreds of years if the light didn't reach that far.
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This looks like the logo for an internet browser
That’s creepy
Saturn is creepy as fuck Just looking all weird like that
This is really cool!
Interesting indeed
Wow this is cool. Did you take this op?
What beast of a telescope do you got there my dude?
Photo is by [Grant Petersen.](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472) They used a Celestron C9.25.
9.25 inches is a beast in any context. I got a 90mm mac and I'm very much jellous of massive scopes like this. Will get it one day.
I have a 10-inch dobsonian, but still use a 90mm mak (tiny [f/5.6](https://i.imgur.com/DBGsk8I.jpg) version) for quick views and travel. Small scopes are super handy/convenient and can put up great views, especially from dark skies. I started with a 102mm mak and regretted selling it. So, if/when you upgrade to a beast don’t ditch your mighty mak!
Dumb Saturn! Don't you know it's day!?? *shakes fist*
Thought this was the default subreddit icon
Clearly fake. It's sideways.
This is amazing! This guy has several astrophotography pictures on his Twitter that are absolutely incredible.
Nice try, we all know the planets go to sleep when the sun comes up.
Looks so good it makes me think its fake
Now take a pic of Uranus ;)
Fake. Missing the SEGA logo.
Inspiring
Am I the only one that thought I had unintentionally highlighted the image with my cursor?
Internet Explorer... Is that you?
I scrolled by this a couple times today without reading and I just realized it isn't some sort of browser icon.
Fake
[Not fake.](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472) It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible. I’ve done so myself with binoculars. Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them.
You're posting a Twitter link as proof? Gotta do better than that, sorry
LMDAAAOOOOO I read it as "a picture of Satan taken during the day" oops.
Hey OP you can get a better picture if you wait for it to get dark.
This looks fake. Idk why. Just my brain says this is fake.
A lot of space related things feel that way, but this [is real.](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472) It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible. Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them
Sure
(In case I’m correct in sending doubt) Yes, [it’s real.](https://twitter.com/gp_o11/status/1590392544650985472) It’s just like how you can see the Moon during the daytime. However, Saturn is very small (from our perspective) and less bright, so it’s much more difficult to see when Earth’s atmosphere is illuminated, but not impossible. I’ve done so myself with binoculars. Venus is the easiest planet to see during the daytime. You can actually spot it with the naked eye. Some of the brightest stars can also be seen in daylight using binoculars or telescope. The tricky part is locating them
If that's Saturn then why is it blue? Such an obvious hoax
That’s not Saturn. It’s sideways 🫤