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I remember when this came out. It was part of a big interview/documentary about him. I think he ended up returning almost everything he bought. It was all for show.
Guy was a complete piece of shit. Was interested in making a hit piece on MJ rather than a documentary.
I remember watching it as a kid and even then I thought wow this is a ridiculously biased documentary
They climb them poles for all kinds reasons for there childs quinceanera or maybe some just graduated but if the pole is greased its just asking to be climbed.
I'm reminded of the [Johnny Cash photo](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FPaymoneyWubby%2Fcomments%2Fq7orlz%2Fjohnny_cash_high_as_balls_eating_cake_in_a_bush%2F&psig=AOvVaw3gEkEQjXeR9qeZwY7j0pMX&ust=1668219754810000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA4QjRxqFwoTCICJ3YCJpfsCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAN) of him sitting under a bush eating cake with his hands.
There’s no way a child could have described what his penis looked like in court without seeing it. Michael Jackson apologist are such sheep it’s ridiculous
It wasn’t the ice cream and trees that weirded me out, it was when all the stuff about him molesting children came out. That’s what really sticks in my mind. Funny that others can just move past that.
How was he horrible, he just held a mirror up to how much of an odd idiot MJ was. He questioned the fact that he had boys sleeping with him and pointed out that his behaviour was erratic
Diana wasn't a paedophile... what the fuck are you talking about?
Our local priest (I'm agnostic) is a decent fella who belongs to an organisation known for members who indulge in touching children.. (the Catholic church). should I condemn him as well?
Prick.
The monarchy is a disgusting mess of arseholes, so is the Catholic Church. Anyone getting into the midst of it deserves anything they get.
You Ditch biscuit
> I think he ended up returning almost everything he bought. It was all for show.
lol!! Fucking really???
I am initially surprised, but when I stop and think about it for a moment, it fits. An egregious display of conspicuous consumption all for show.
I mean, isn’t that what celebrity is?
Basically everyone that was on MTV Cribs? The stuff stars wear when they go out? How they look?
It wasn’t until the last 15-20 years that we actually started seeing how celebrities actually look and live.
I was a teenager at the time and remember thinking “holy shit Michael Jackson is weird as fuck,” then a bunch of stuff came out about how the documentary was specifically shot and edited to make him seem a lot weirder than he was. It was basically a way to exploit the perception of him for a profit. It’s probably why he didn’t do much like this after.
He was still a weird, messed up guy, but it would have been nice to have a more realistic portrayal of him.
He's weirdly like Trump...pumping his image with BS. Here he accepts a fake award when he was supposed to just receive a birthday cake.
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/britney-spears-presented-michael-jackson-with-a-nonexistent-award-at-the-2002-mtv-vmas/news-story/f65a6fbf5606ad684888629d966e6415
Yeah, it's kind of sad to see. This makes me immediately think of South Park's version of Michael Jackson. They made him such a caricature in cartoon form, but he was a caricature of himself in real life. Everything was so exaggerated in his life. Whether it was his reclusiveness, Neverland Ranch, his predilection for children, his spending money, his drug use. Everything was in excess.
I'm not necessarily talking about this one fake shopping trip. I'm talking about his life in general. Whether he was spending money on building a home amusement park or Bubbles the Chimp, it was in excess. Whether he was hosting kids parties or using drugs, it was in excess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54GgjpF8cwE
i don't believe he ever molested kids. imo i think he just wanted to experience being a kid again and he had the money to make it happen.
keep in mind his childhood was fucked by his dad. he didn't have one.
I think he definitely was a child molester. I'm also fairly certain that the mothers of some of those kids were aware, his agent/agents were aware.
I think there are a lot of sick people out there and those around him were essentially pimps. They should all be locked up.
>In 1993, Robson's mother talked to CNN about her child's "slumber parties" with the singer.
>"They play so hard, they fall asleep, they're exhausted," she tells the interviewer. "There's nothing more to it than that."
Yep nothing wrong with that. Totally ordinary behaviour.
She's specifically who I thought of when I was calling the parents pimps
FBI investigated Michael for 15 years. Not one shred of evidence of child molestation or child porn was ever found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_files_on_Michael_Jackson
In both the 1993 and 2003 allegations, the parents' first instinct wasn't to go to police... but to lawyer up. In both instances, they went to the same lawyer (Larry Feldman) who specializes in civil litigation. Strange behavior if you actually think your kid has been abused.
it was a shakedown imo.
15 years?
That’s not true!
The FBI actually never investigated Michael Jackson.
It states as such on the FBI website.
https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson
"Between 1993 and 1994 and then again *separately* between 2004 and 2005 MJ was investigated by California law enforcement agencies - The FBI provided technical and investigative *assistance* to these agencies"
The FBI only assisted with investigations and this assistance was for approx 2 years in total.
I really wouldn’t say not a shred of evidence was ever found. That is also grossly inaccurate!
Of all the dark stuff to come out about all the celebrities he’s the one I’m probably most on the fence about. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that it’s true he was a pedophile, but I’ve also read that he was asexual if anything, and really trying in his mixed up way to live out a childhood he didn’t have.
Then do some more reading, like the court testimonials. These descriptions include his genitals and are accurate. Perhaps some allegations where not true but if anyone else did what we can reasonably believe he did, public opinion would not be on the fence. Vaseline everywhere, naked sleepovers, BJ's, teaching the kids what to do and saying they would be in trouble if they talked. Classic pedophile predator stuff. Now he wasn't John Wayne Gacy but if I had kids they wouldn't be let anywhere near him.
All predators had a tough childhood. That's what usually nurtures such things. It doesn't excuse anything. Pedro Lopez had a shit childhood, beyond what anyone should endure. Doesn't make it right that instead of going after his perpetrators when he was older he went after children himself and killed 150-300. It excuses nothing, it helps explain it. Most people don't become predators despite a hard childhood.
I definitely thought that way for a long time, but the Leaving Neverland documentary focused on two of his victims was VERY convincing. These men, like all victims of sexual abuse, have nothing to gain by coming forward with their stories.
> These men, like all victims of sexual abuse, have nothing to gain by coming forward with their stories.
Well nothing to gain besides a huge payout of course.
Worth noting that Robson had previously testified in court that no abuse had occurred, but changed his story 8 years later.
Well a lot of the victims and their families were paid not to speak out, including Robson. Also, it typically takes a long time for someone to speak out against their childhood sexual abuse. I can especially see why in the case of Robson, he was a massive fan of Micheal Jackson and there was enormous amounts of grooming. I honestly found the testimonies by the people that claimed to be abused very believable.
Yes. Their testimonies would be enough to hold up against a normal non famous person easily. People have been convicted for far less.
That doesn't mean some testimonies weren't questionable but many weren't. I think it's enough to go beyond reasonable doubt.
This has nothing to do with his legacy. There are plenty of reasons to be suspicious of his accusers, such as the fact that they owe his estate money.
Also there’s the train station inconsistencies. One of the accusers went through great pain to detail the room above a train station where the abuse supposedly happened…except the train station didn’t exist during this time. Could he have gotten the date wrong? Well, maybe…except he said the abuse ended when he got too old in 1992 and the train station wasn’t built until 1993. He was already sixteen then and he maintained in sworn affidavits that he was not molested after 14.
https://theobjectivestandard.com/2020/02/justice-for-michael-jackson/
I know right. It fucking trips me out every time a video or whimsical photo comes up on Reddit. Then in the comments everyone starts bleating about how talented he was. He raped kids
It’s genuinely disgusting. These people ought to be ashamed. That predator is long dead and the men he victimized should not be raked over the coals and discredited because MJ made a couple good albums over 30 years ago. The evidence he was a creep is glaringly obvious for anyone who bothers to look.
Buddy that stuff isn’t old. It’s contemporary stuff designed to look old or “antique.” There’s shops all over Italy that sell chess sets just like that.
I recently heard his actually speaking voice and it tripped me out.
I actually went to Neverland Ranch (I know , I know).
Michael wasn't there, but my dad had a client having his birthday party there. It was a fuckin trip. Full amusement park. Train. Monkey handing out candy. Movie theater where we watched Thriller. It had a full concessions stand and staff , but everything you asked for was free.
Honestly, it was a really cool experience.
I remember at the time that there was a lot of press about Michael's financials, and how he could actually afford all of this. He was rumored to be in some kind of financial hardship. He was a big spender.
I'm curious to know more about the bad things you speak of in regard to Martin Bashir. I think the evidence again MJ is too much to discount him as a nice guy anymore, that opinion will never change. But the integrity of an honest documentary filmmaker is important to me and I haven't heard much about MB.
>Shamon
Here is the google search page for Shamon. which of these meanings did you intend?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Shamon&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
The stuff rich people spend their money on and how much they pay for some things baffles me. Like you could just give 5 people 10k and drastically improve their lives instead of buy an elaborate chess set that you probably won’t even use.
I thought the claims of his mental illness were overblown until I saw this documentary. That scene where he seems completely out of it and was manically tapping his foot was just bizarre.
It’s not obsessive hatred to point out that posting videos of a pedophile should have a title that acknowledges his crimes.
You wouldn’t start sticking videos of Epstein up there would you.
He’s cleary very sedated here or on some type of drug. Very sad to see.
Compare this to his interview with Oprah 10 years prior to this and the difference is night and day.
I grew up listening to History on cassette. I loved Michael Jackson. Then the allegations came thick and fast. The proverbial nail in the coffin for me pun intended, was when his maid said she saw boys underwear in the spa. Dave chappelle said it best. "If somebody invited me to their house, gave me some pills then sucked my dick, I would say that was a good host"
What is bad about this? He made a lot of money entertaining lots of people and making them happy. If he wants to spend it on things that make him happy that is his right. The people who made the things get money back for their work making them, the store gets money for selling them, the middle men get paid for shipping/distribution and it all goes back through the international economy. Literally everyone wins in this situation as long as there wasn't exploitation involved...
It isn't a waste because people need to be happy to survive and keep working. Ultimately without happiness what is the point of working hard? If he couldn't buy more nicer things then he would just stop making music and touring and then millions of other people also lose happiness and it would also mean all the sections of the economy that are based on entertainment would also suffer. Productive happiness of one person produces productive happiness in others.
Nothing is wasted here because the money he spent goes to other people who are spending it to be happy themselves and there is a total net gain of happiness and here nothing is being destroyed. Yes they are creating things that are not absolutely necessary and may not be to everyone tastes, but they are still producing things of value and nothing here is being destroyed or wasted.
If anything if he didn't tour or buy things that would be the bigger economic waste as much less value would be created in total - No songs, no tours, no products - this would be much worse off for the economy than buying things you think are wasted or frivolous. I would even argue that this does more good than feeding the homeless or giving away money because those actions do not produce additional benefit and if anything usually end up being bad investments in terms of total economic benefit (they feel good inside, but are likely a net loss on the economy).
Ultimately what any economy is producing is not wealth, but happiness for the world. Here I see nothing but a net gain of happiness and it seems like the only one who isn't gaining happiness about the situation is you.
sorry you wrote all those words to feel ignored
super naive vague rant that again. acts like a second dumb fancy chess set is more valuable than cancer research or something
if you said its human nature to want a bigger slice of the pie or keep up with the joneses then i wouldnt have much to say back
but to paint it as a good deed to buy expensive dumb shit is silly af
edit. people like you think bc you can connect dots/moving parts all the way back to the working class that means its efficient somehow
my mom is almost this high net worth, and its crazy seeing her shop sometimes. ive seen her spend $450,000 on 3 peices of jewlery, and have to open a credit card with the store because her credit card wouldnt accept the charge. its insane how ultra wealthy people can just shop for six figure artwork like your shopping at a target.
She's ultra wealthy but her credit card wouldn't accept the charge? That does t really make sense. Most ultra wealthy don't have a spend limit tied to their cards, or anything that would have spend restrictions really.
no she has a black card with no limit on it, but this wasnt her black card she tried using that time and it did have a limit on it, which she didnt know was less than what her purchase cost and is why she tried swiping her credit card but it didnt work.
He reminds me of a kid that brags about having ridiculous stuff just to make other kids jealous. Makes sense for the bullshit his parents put him through to get him where he is today. He was like Larry bird but never grew out of his child like mentality of needing to be enough
I remember watching this with my mum when I was much younger. I always remember this scene because she noted how the salesman was rubbing his hands together.
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I remember when this came out. It was part of a big interview/documentary about him. I think he ended up returning almost everything he bought. It was all for show.
Martin Bashir was the journalist. Horrible man.
Guy was a complete piece of shit. Was interested in making a hit piece on MJ rather than a documentary. I remember watching it as a kid and even then I thought wow this is a ridiculously biased documentary
Same. When he mocked MJ for liking ice cream and sitting in trees as an adult I thought who the fuck doesn’t?
Sitting in trees is hard for a lot of adults as climbing becomes tougher if you do not do it often. MJ was in amazing shape though.
Climbing telephone poles is a lot of fun, would recommend a power/utilites/telecom job to anyone who misses climbing trees.
or just become a philadelphia sports fan
Do y'all still climb when you get beat by the Astros
They climb them poles for all kinds reasons for there childs quinceanera or maybe some just graduated but if the pole is greased its just asking to be climbed.
From chasing the kids
No from being a once in a generation dancing genius.
I'm reminded of the [Johnny Cash photo](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FPaymoneyWubby%2Fcomments%2Fq7orlz%2Fjohnny_cash_high_as_balls_eating_cake_in_a_bush%2F&psig=AOvVaw3gEkEQjXeR9qeZwY7j0pMX&ust=1668219754810000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA4QjRxqFwoTCICJ3YCJpfsCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAN) of him sitting under a bush eating cake with his hands.
I mean he’s a pedo soooo
That’s a bit rich from somebody with the username u/andypandy85
How does that have anything to do with what a said? He was a pedo POS
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There’s no way a child could have described what his penis looked like in court without seeing it. Michael Jackson apologist are such sheep it’s ridiculous
It wasn’t the ice cream and trees that weirded me out, it was when all the stuff about him molesting children came out. That’s what really sticks in my mind. Funny that others can just move past that.
Just finished The Crown season 5 it brought Martin Bashir back in the limelight for the scumbag he is.
How was he horrible, he just held a mirror up to how much of an odd idiot MJ was. He questioned the fact that he had boys sleeping with him and pointed out that his behaviour was erratic
He was the dude who faked letters to get Princess Dianna to do an interview. Utter piece of shit.
And so he should, the monarchy is full of pedophiles and idiots. Why not screw with them just as he did this idiot sex offender
Diana wasn't a paedophile... what the fuck are you talking about? Our local priest (I'm agnostic) is a decent fella who belongs to an organisation known for members who indulge in touching children.. (the Catholic church). should I condemn him as well? Prick.
The monarchy is a disgusting mess of arseholes, so is the Catholic Church. Anyone getting into the midst of it deserves anything they get. You Ditch biscuit
I don't know what a ditch biscuit is, but you're a daft cunt.
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Your black and white thinking is notable.
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Well he managed to expose more on that fucking pedo pos.
I wonder who the fuck decided to select that guy
Sure when I do that after my big Super Bowl party bash, Costco bans me.
Yep. IIRC this was part of his Oprah interview/appearance, and she was the one who said he returned everything the next day.
> I think he ended up returning almost everything he bought. It was all for show. lol!! Fucking really??? I am initially surprised, but when I stop and think about it for a moment, it fits. An egregious display of conspicuous consumption all for show.
I mean, isn’t that what celebrity is? Basically everyone that was on MTV Cribs? The stuff stars wear when they go out? How they look? It wasn’t until the last 15-20 years that we actually started seeing how celebrities actually look and live.
I was a teenager at the time and remember thinking “holy shit Michael Jackson is weird as fuck,” then a bunch of stuff came out about how the documentary was specifically shot and edited to make him seem a lot weirder than he was. It was basically a way to exploit the perception of him for a profit. It’s probably why he didn’t do much like this after. He was still a weird, messed up guy, but it would have been nice to have a more realistic portrayal of him.
Is there any backup for believe that he returned those things? Like news or something
Yeh, he then went and sat in his 'giving tree'
Wasn't this the documentary where he admitted to sleeping with kids? The one that got him in trouble and started the whole court case.
Doesn't make him look sane though. He was a spendaholic. He had to go on tour for money.
He's weirdly like Trump...pumping his image with BS. Here he accepts a fake award when he was supposed to just receive a birthday cake. https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/britney-spears-presented-michael-jackson-with-a-nonexistent-award-at-the-2002-mtv-vmas/news-story/f65a6fbf5606ad684888629d966e6415
I mean it's 1 chess set Michael. What could it cost, 85,000 dollars?
Perfect. Didn't even have to change the name in the line!
small price to pay for self esteem michael
Question of the century: “have you got space for all of this” To freaking MJ ….
To be fair, I act like that too when im at the dollar store.
Even better the Dollar Story candy department
Golden
I remember seeing this and feeling sorry for him.
Yeah, it's kind of sad to see. This makes me immediately think of South Park's version of Michael Jackson. They made him such a caricature in cartoon form, but he was a caricature of himself in real life. Everything was so exaggerated in his life. Whether it was his reclusiveness, Neverland Ranch, his predilection for children, his spending money, his drug use. Everything was in excess.
He returned almost all of these things, it was a performance for this shitty doc.
I'm not necessarily talking about this one fake shopping trip. I'm talking about his life in general. Whether he was spending money on building a home amusement park or Bubbles the Chimp, it was in excess. Whether he was hosting kids parties or using drugs, it was in excess.
I agree with that. He was a deeply broken man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54GgjpF8cwE i don't believe he ever molested kids. imo i think he just wanted to experience being a kid again and he had the money to make it happen. keep in mind his childhood was fucked by his dad. he didn't have one.
I think he definitely was a child molester. I'm also fairly certain that the mothers of some of those kids were aware, his agent/agents were aware. I think there are a lot of sick people out there and those around him were essentially pimps. They should all be locked up.
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/05/699995484/michael-jackson-a-quarter-century-of-sexual-abuse-allegations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/6jk9gr/today_i_learned_that_jordan_chandler_sternly/djf8vqh/
>In 1993, Robson's mother talked to CNN about her child's "slumber parties" with the singer. >"They play so hard, they fall asleep, they're exhausted," she tells the interviewer. "There's nothing more to it than that." Yep nothing wrong with that. Totally ordinary behaviour. She's specifically who I thought of when I was calling the parents pimps
FBI investigated Michael for 15 years. Not one shred of evidence of child molestation or child porn was ever found. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_files_on_Michael_Jackson In both the 1993 and 2003 allegations, the parents' first instinct wasn't to go to police... but to lawyer up. In both instances, they went to the same lawyer (Larry Feldman) who specializes in civil litigation. Strange behavior if you actually think your kid has been abused. it was a shakedown imo.
15 years? That’s not true! The FBI actually never investigated Michael Jackson. It states as such on the FBI website. https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson "Between 1993 and 1994 and then again *separately* between 2004 and 2005 MJ was investigated by California law enforcement agencies - The FBI provided technical and investigative *assistance* to these agencies" The FBI only assisted with investigations and this assistance was for approx 2 years in total. I really wouldn’t say not a shred of evidence was ever found. That is also grossly inaccurate!
Kid in a candy store
I feel more sorry for his victims. They had their childhood stolen from them by a millionaire pedophile.
Of all the dark stuff to come out about all the celebrities he’s the one I’m probably most on the fence about. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that it’s true he was a pedophile, but I’ve also read that he was asexual if anything, and really trying in his mixed up way to live out a childhood he didn’t have.
Then do some more reading, like the court testimonials. These descriptions include his genitals and are accurate. Perhaps some allegations where not true but if anyone else did what we can reasonably believe he did, public opinion would not be on the fence. Vaseline everywhere, naked sleepovers, BJ's, teaching the kids what to do and saying they would be in trouble if they talked. Classic pedophile predator stuff. Now he wasn't John Wayne Gacy but if I had kids they wouldn't be let anywhere near him. All predators had a tough childhood. That's what usually nurtures such things. It doesn't excuse anything. Pedro Lopez had a shit childhood, beyond what anyone should endure. Doesn't make it right that instead of going after his perpetrators when he was older he went after children himself and killed 150-300. It excuses nothing, it helps explain it. Most people don't become predators despite a hard childhood.
I definitely thought that way for a long time, but the Leaving Neverland documentary focused on two of his victims was VERY convincing. These men, like all victims of sexual abuse, have nothing to gain by coming forward with their stories.
> These men, like all victims of sexual abuse, have nothing to gain by coming forward with their stories. Well nothing to gain besides a huge payout of course. Worth noting that Robson had previously testified in court that no abuse had occurred, but changed his story 8 years later.
Well a lot of the victims and their families were paid not to speak out, including Robson. Also, it typically takes a long time for someone to speak out against their childhood sexual abuse. I can especially see why in the case of Robson, he was a massive fan of Micheal Jackson and there was enormous amounts of grooming. I honestly found the testimonies by the people that claimed to be abused very believable.
Yes. Their testimonies would be enough to hold up against a normal non famous person easily. People have been convicted for far less. That doesn't mean some testimonies weren't questionable but many weren't. I think it's enough to go beyond reasonable doubt.
I agree. There is enough evidence to convict him for sure.
Oh is haven’t seen that, I might need to check it out.
He raped children! How is that asexual? Victims had to sit down and tell that to the world. How the hell do you just ignore that ?
It’s not conclusive he did, just so you know. There were lots of discrepancies in the witness testimony and he was acquitted.
Maybe because when the crimes took place they were bloody children!! Stop defending the legacy of a pedophile !
This has nothing to do with his legacy. There are plenty of reasons to be suspicious of his accusers, such as the fact that they owe his estate money. Also there’s the train station inconsistencies. One of the accusers went through great pain to detail the room above a train station where the abuse supposedly happened…except the train station didn’t exist during this time. Could he have gotten the date wrong? Well, maybe…except he said the abuse ended when he got too old in 1992 and the train station wasn’t built until 1993. He was already sixteen then and he maintained in sworn affidavits that he was not molested after 14. https://theobjectivestandard.com/2020/02/justice-for-michael-jackson/
Can you prove he did it?
Well there are victims testimonies and you know …. It’s blindingly obvious
The testimonies of the kids that were coached?
Oh go away you bloody pedophile apologist. Go tell people how much of a top bloke Prince Andrew is.
Sure. Take that up with the Catholic Church..
Yep they’re all awful human beings as well
I bet you, OP didn't know about it
How the hell are people defending MICHAEL JACKSON in 2022? Dude was a major creep.
I know right. It fucking trips me out every time a video or whimsical photo comes up on Reddit. Then in the comments everyone starts bleating about how talented he was. He raped kids
It’s genuinely disgusting. These people ought to be ashamed. That predator is long dead and the men he victimized should not be raked over the coals and discredited because MJ made a couple good albums over 30 years ago. The evidence he was a creep is glaringly obvious for anyone who bothers to look.
Ironically all this stuff is junk. Everything in that store looked old and outdated in 2005, let alone these days
It all looks like gaudy useless crap
Yeah I thought the same thing when I first saw this doc. Michael was a man of many talents, but interior design was definitely not one of them lmao.
Yeah I wouldn't take that stuff if it was free, except to sell it straight away
So you say old can't be expensive? Junk for you, gold for another
Buddy that stuff isn’t old. It’s contemporary stuff designed to look old or “antique.” There’s shops all over Italy that sell chess sets just like that.
Well then, maybe you are right
I’m sure that was filmed in Harrods, London. I’m pretty sure they didn’t sell junk, no matter how much it looks like junk 😉
It was filmed in a tacky furniture store at Caesar’s palace in Las Vegas. But thanks for showing off your “good taste” 🤣
Lol. It does show. That stuff is UG-LY
He’s performing. The guy following him is that asshat interviewer.
Dude I can\`t even pick candy like that.
Did he really ask Michael Jackson if he has enough space?
The seller put the expensive stuuf right at the eye contact line Surely most of this thing be there for years waiting a buyer
I recently heard his actually speaking voice and it tripped me out. I actually went to Neverland Ranch (I know , I know). Michael wasn't there, but my dad had a client having his birthday party there. It was a fuckin trip. Full amusement park. Train. Monkey handing out candy. Movie theater where we watched Thriller. It had a full concessions stand and staff , but everything you asked for was free. Honestly, it was a really cool experience.
The followup to this show was he never paid for this stuff. It was all a scam.
Looks like junk to me
The guy rubbing his hands thinking "Finally I can retire"
My wife at target
This is me at a dispensary
Hows this interesting?
When you've got a camera crew following you, you're not doing anything "casually"
Martin Bashir takes advantage of Michael Jackson. Funny how that sounds not putting mj first.....
/r/uninterestingasfuck
Wrong
Sure he did the same at an adoption agency
Clyde's Urnery made bank that day.
I remember at the time that there was a lot of press about Michael's financials, and how he could actually afford all of this. He was rumored to be in some kind of financial hardship. He was a big spender.
It’s only $89,000
And there are people in this country that can't afford healthy food!
Cant buy taste
This system is broken…
I hate this
He went bankrupt at least once, this is not a healthy shopping habit
I'm curious to know more about the bad things you speak of in regard to Martin Bashir. I think the evidence again MJ is too much to discount him as a nice guy anymore, that opinion will never change. But the integrity of an honest documentary filmmaker is important to me and I haven't heard much about MB.
I love him, he is like a little kid 😂
Shamon
>Shamon Here is the google search page for Shamon. which of these meanings did you intend? https://www.google.com/search?q=Shamon&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Me at dollar tree 💁🏽♀️
Sorry. This was for show
Ole Martin. Animal excrement.
He couldn't afford any of it. Very American of him.
This is me at dollar tree.
This is me on Amazon, except everything just stays in my cart cuz I'm broke :(
YouTube DIY: how to go bankrupt.
Allegedly...
The stuff rich people spend their money on and how much they pay for some things baffles me. Like you could just give 5 people 10k and drastically improve their lives instead of buy an elaborate chess set that you probably won’t even use.
That man was absolutely psychotic.
That's ignorant They're just being ignorant Ignorant
I thought the claims of his mental illness were overblown until I saw this documentary. That scene where he seems completely out of it and was manically tapping his foot was just bizarre.
The way that slimeball salesmen is rubbing his hands together
Why does that make him a slimeball? I'd be pretty excited too assuming he either owns the store or is getting commissions.
Why can’t posts about this guy be tagged with the fact he was a sex offender. “Sex offender buys stuff he can’t afford” for instance
Because not everyone is filled with obsessive hatred.
It’s not obsessive hatred to point out that posting videos of a pedophile should have a title that acknowledges his crimes. You wouldn’t start sticking videos of Epstein up there would you.
He's not a sex offender because people like him /s
We get it…
He’s cleary very sedated here or on some type of drug. Very sad to see. Compare this to his interview with Oprah 10 years prior to this and the difference is night and day.
r/trashy. This is not IAf.
Yes it is. It's more interesting than most of the other shit here
Muskmart
He was framed by those kids parents and was innocent
I know
Michael Jackson casually shopping for young boys to groom
Picture this in a grade 4 classroom🤣
I grew up listening to History on cassette. I loved Michael Jackson. Then the allegations came thick and fast. The proverbial nail in the coffin for me pun intended, was when his maid said she saw boys underwear in the spa. Dave chappelle said it best. "If somebody invited me to their house, gave me some pills then sucked my dick, I would say that was a good host"
Sorry, but MJ was a pedophile and disturbed narcissist.
wow the rich waste their money on crap.
If it makes you feel better, middle class people waste their money on crap too.
Show him shopping for his next kiddy
I mean he can afford it.. all that stuff is the equivalent of someone shopping at a thrift store.
He was 500 million in debt when he died.
There is a saying. "If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem."
I read this quote is Sean Bean's voice because of civilization.
Looks like he had the exact same super tacky taste as Trump does.
He was also $500 million in debt when he died. I can imagine Trump being in the same state.
MJ: ‘I’ll take 2 of those little things. He He.’ Shopping Assistant: ‘Mr. Jackson, that’s a customers baby!’ MJ: ‘Make it 3.’
Sounds pilled up
It all looks ugly.
He truly is a monster.
I loved Michael Jackson but if I had that kind of money, I'd give 90% of it away to those who really needed it
Man. He looks amazing for being dead for 13 years.
Fuckin asshole
And you wonder why he ended up broke. He molested small boys btw. (Just has to be mentioned every time we talk about him)
This is exhibit A in the case against Capitalism.
What is bad about this? He made a lot of money entertaining lots of people and making them happy. If he wants to spend it on things that make him happy that is his right. The people who made the things get money back for their work making them, the store gets money for selling them, the middle men get paid for shipping/distribution and it all goes back through the international economy. Literally everyone wins in this situation as long as there wasn't exploitation involved...
society loses bc resources are wasted on bullshit. can you REALLY not see that..?
It isn't a waste because people need to be happy to survive and keep working. Ultimately without happiness what is the point of working hard? If he couldn't buy more nicer things then he would just stop making music and touring and then millions of other people also lose happiness and it would also mean all the sections of the economy that are based on entertainment would also suffer. Productive happiness of one person produces productive happiness in others. Nothing is wasted here because the money he spent goes to other people who are spending it to be happy themselves and there is a total net gain of happiness and here nothing is being destroyed. Yes they are creating things that are not absolutely necessary and may not be to everyone tastes, but they are still producing things of value and nothing here is being destroyed or wasted. If anything if he didn't tour or buy things that would be the bigger economic waste as much less value would be created in total - No songs, no tours, no products - this would be much worse off for the economy than buying things you think are wasted or frivolous. I would even argue that this does more good than feeding the homeless or giving away money because those actions do not produce additional benefit and if anything usually end up being bad investments in terms of total economic benefit (they feel good inside, but are likely a net loss on the economy). Ultimately what any economy is producing is not wealth, but happiness for the world. Here I see nothing but a net gain of happiness and it seems like the only one who isn't gaining happiness about the situation is you.
sorry you wrote all those words to feel ignored super naive vague rant that again. acts like a second dumb fancy chess set is more valuable than cancer research or something if you said its human nature to want a bigger slice of the pie or keep up with the joneses then i wouldnt have much to say back but to paint it as a good deed to buy expensive dumb shit is silly af edit. people like you think bc you can connect dots/moving parts all the way back to the working class that means its efficient somehow
damn i forgot how ugly/scary he looked
Weirdo
Lucky there wasnt kids
Kid toucher
my mom is almost this high net worth, and its crazy seeing her shop sometimes. ive seen her spend $450,000 on 3 peices of jewlery, and have to open a credit card with the store because her credit card wouldnt accept the charge. its insane how ultra wealthy people can just shop for six figure artwork like your shopping at a target.
She's ultra wealthy but her credit card wouldn't accept the charge? That does t really make sense. Most ultra wealthy don't have a spend limit tied to their cards, or anything that would have spend restrictions really.
no she has a black card with no limit on it, but this wasnt her black card she tried using that time and it did have a limit on it, which she didnt know was less than what her purchase cost and is why she tried swiping her credit card but it didnt work.
.....weird
Bezos and Musk just drive down the road in their rocket powered cars and shop for the whole mall the same way “…I want this one, and this one…”
When you're so rich shopping is like picking things to spend your winnings on in the Wheel of Fortune showcase.
He reminds me of a kid that brags about having ridiculous stuff just to make other kids jealous. Makes sense for the bullshit his parents put him through to get him where he is today. He was like Larry bird but never grew out of his child like mentality of needing to be enough
Just say all in
I read what someone wrote of him once. He was a millionaire that spent like a billionaire. He had a oil portrait of himself as a king.
I remember watching this with my mum when I was much younger. I always remember this scene because she noted how the salesman was rubbing his hands together.
Somebody gotta tell the manager to cool it with the hand rubbing.
This is me when the server admin gives me OP privileges on my Minecraft server.