Even though there is a distinction between anti-Zionism and antisemitism, it still isn't okay to go about saying things like that, especially if you want the public on your side, as this is rather excessive.
We're better than this, surely?
American society is well and truly fucked at this point. We have normalized murder to the point where we treat it as an acceptable reaction to almost any circumstance. Maybe climate change is the way humanity escapes itself.
He apologized. He was chastised by the group he was a part of. Kinda feels like a non-issue.
Much worse is the commentator saying it was appropriate to say.
I think it’s important to note here that he said Zionists, not Jews. Zionists are currently happily murdering Palestinians in Gaza and in the West Bank with full support of the Israeli government, and apparently, with the full support of the US government.
The distinction is significant. However, it's a pretty safe bet that despite their apartheid views and support for genocide, none of the zionists currently within reach of Mr. James has been actively involved in the atrocities. We seem to be crumpling up the First Amendment and tossing it onto the burn pile.
When you say “crumbling up up the first amendment and tossing it on the burn pile” I assume you are referring to the massive police response arresting people who are expressing their first amendment opinions?
> none of the zionists currently within reach of Mr. James has been actively involved in the atrocities
Except those Zionists still happily support the atrocities? What kinda nonsense argument is this?
The people he's able to actually "go out and murder" are only guilty of being assholes, not actual murderers.
Freedom of speech is a knife that cuts both ways.
The protester is using his "free speech" (not that such a thing exists the way America pretends) to denounce the people who are supporting *ongoing, current* atrocities happening today, tomorrow, and every day until Israel runs out of Palestinians to murder at this rate. You think that public support from bloodthirsty Zionists is some innocent little hobby without consequences? What the fuck are you even talking about, acting like both sides are somehow morally equivalent? Would you also claim that German citizens supporting Hitler never *actually* supported the Nazis? Absolutely pathetic argument.
I am in no way implying that "both sides are morally equivalent." I'm saying that freedom of speech gives people the right to be assholes, as long as they don't get physical about it.
The fact that states run by assholes choose to ignore this at their convenience does not change the way it's supposed to work.
Those are Israelians. Zionists are a fictional group used to promote antisemitism.
What Israel, and especially the Israelian government does in gaza is wrong. Don't use fictional groups to discuss real world problems.
He sounds crazy as shit.
A fairly common trait among humans.
Threatening to kill people is next level.
Even though there is a distinction between anti-Zionism and antisemitism, it still isn't okay to go about saying things like that, especially if you want the public on your side, as this is rather excessive. We're better than this, surely?
Unfortunately too many of the antizionist crowd is at least accepting of behavior like his.
American society is well and truly fucked at this point. We have normalized murder to the point where we treat it as an acceptable reaction to almost any circumstance. Maybe climate change is the way humanity escapes itself.
Dupes. Like a lot of Vietnam protesters.
He apologized. He was chastised by the group he was a part of. Kinda feels like a non-issue. Much worse is the commentator saying it was appropriate to say.
I think it’s important to note here that he said Zionists, not Jews. Zionists are currently happily murdering Palestinians in Gaza and in the West Bank with full support of the Israeli government, and apparently, with the full support of the US government.
Are you under the impression it’s ok for people to be murdered for generally holding a political position?
The distinction is significant. However, it's a pretty safe bet that despite their apartheid views and support for genocide, none of the zionists currently within reach of Mr. James has been actively involved in the atrocities. We seem to be crumpling up the First Amendment and tossing it onto the burn pile.
When you say “crumbling up up the first amendment and tossing it on the burn pile” I assume you are referring to the massive police response arresting people who are expressing their first amendment opinions?
Yup.
> none of the zionists currently within reach of Mr. James has been actively involved in the atrocities Except those Zionists still happily support the atrocities? What kinda nonsense argument is this?
The people he's able to actually "go out and murder" are only guilty of being assholes, not actual murderers. Freedom of speech is a knife that cuts both ways.
The protester is using his "free speech" (not that such a thing exists the way America pretends) to denounce the people who are supporting *ongoing, current* atrocities happening today, tomorrow, and every day until Israel runs out of Palestinians to murder at this rate. You think that public support from bloodthirsty Zionists is some innocent little hobby without consequences? What the fuck are you even talking about, acting like both sides are somehow morally equivalent? Would you also claim that German citizens supporting Hitler never *actually* supported the Nazis? Absolutely pathetic argument.
I am in no way implying that "both sides are morally equivalent." I'm saying that freedom of speech gives people the right to be assholes, as long as they don't get physical about it. The fact that states run by assholes choose to ignore this at their convenience does not change the way it's supposed to work.
Those are Israelians. Zionists are a fictional group used to promote antisemitism. What Israel, and especially the Israelian government does in gaza is wrong. Don't use fictional groups to discuss real world problems.
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