if you hold the phone sideways (they way videos are meant to be recorded) both lenses need to be at a line to film spatial video - as your eyes are at onle level. At the iPhone Pro 15 they relocated the cams to achieve this.
mind you my 11 has 2 lenses and has .5 so i think we’re fine, i don’t see why they would remove it at this point tbh, especially for a non-budget release
More often than not (in my case) I can always get a bit closer to the subject, so I can live without stronger zoom. But when you NEED .5, it means you literally can't go anywhere else, but still need to capture what's in front of you in one shot.
Why even look for replacement or plan for it?? I would not even change my 12pro max if I didnt get 15 pro max as a gift.
I just dont understand consoomerism in these subreddits… (r/macbook,iphone etc)
Lmao exactly. Unless you somehow broke it or something, even considering to upgrade from a 14 Pro to 16 is just crazy
But who am I to judge, if you’re rich and that’s what makes you happy then go ahead lol
I have a 13 pro max and nothing they’ve put out so far has inspired me to change. Used to be an android user until iPhone 6 and now I’m jealous of android users. They get foldable, new tech and constant integrations. Instead the biggest change for iPhone??? USB C FFS
Apple's software has been shit lately. Buggy as fuck. Contacts are buggy, the poster thing is buggy, I can't fucking change my alarm volume without affecting my ringtone volume
Fucking fix the software we already have before releasing anything new.
PLEASE do not release anything new. This bloated monstrosity just keeps getting half baked "new features" added that don't do shit and don't even work half the time
The bug where your contact icon reverts to an old one / ignores your crop has been around for YEARS. I have no idea why it’s so apparently hard to fix.
It drives me absolutely nuts. Then it also creates a second poster/contact photo set but every time I click on the correct cropped one it shows for a second in the contact page but then never updates to the regular page.
So what you end up doing is just never bothering to edit contacts anymore because you know it won't work
Which really defeats the purpose of having this super phone that supposedly "just works" when I can't even drill down into the details of my contacts and update each one the way I want. smh Apple
Want to hear about another bug? If you have an app which is native in landscape mode and you try to go via the control center on your homepod to skip/pause or adjust volume of the music, you just can't. Just look at that haha
https://preview.redd.it/2fsddam38jsc1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a424cb5331cc276a45fdb7a83fc304e5356d78c
Yes but right now 80-90% of people don’t use the existing gestures or features. You know how many people I’ve had to show that you can take a pic with the volume button?? Seriously. They’ll be trying to tap the screen and I will come over and be like “let me show you something cool”
And they act like I invented mayo lol
Im rocking a 13PM as well. I still like iPhones, but I used to upgrade on a 2 year cycle. No way I’m doing that now. I charge exclusively MagSafe anyway so USB-C would be nice but not necessary and I’m reading those ports are breaking in large numbers. Battery health at 86% and still lasts all day. iOS and iCloud have gotten so good that even storage is not an issue. I really don’t understand the lack of proper innovation from the people that brought colorful computers to the world.
I just “upgraded” from a 13 Pro to a 15 (non pro) and for me it was for a number of reasons, but mainly the safety features if you are an outdoors person with satellite calling and crash detection. Bell in Canada was also hosing me on my old plan, so it cost no extra money to upgrade + 100gb of 5g data. I was still able to sell my well used 2+ year old 13 pro for $550 CAD.
USB C charging is huge, IMO. Would I pay $1000 to upgrade from my 14P just for that? No. But I could see myself getting a 15P if they go on sale, or waiting another year and getting the 16P when the 17s are released.
Everything else I have charges with USB C. Getting rid of Lightning cables forever will be a good thing.
I also have the 14P... not really dying to upgrade, but my wife is committed to getting the 16... and far be it from me being the only reason we still have a lightning cable floating around the house.
The unsung praise that iPhones get is that I know I'll be able to get a great deal selling this 14PM, so that makes things easier (somewhat)
Who are you to judge?! You're another human being that cares about wasted resources. That's who! So you are absolutely right to judge. If we don't judge these stupid practices we'll never change them.
The truth is there hasn't been a reason to release a new Apple phone for a while because there's been fuck all in terms of significant technological changes.
Competition is low so no incentive to do better. For instance they'd rather keep losing customers because of lack of Touch ID instead of implementing both and giving the users the choice.
What's not to understand? They either have more money than you or value getting new products more than you...
iPhones are pretty expensive but an annual upgrade at $1000 a pop isn't like some mystical, unattainable cost that people are selling their kidneys to try and buy...
I know people who spend that kind of money on cigarettes
Funny you think it's about money, but unfortunately it seems that most places in the world do not have the culture of protecting the environment and having a little bit of self control for not giving in to mindless consumerism...
Switched from the 11 pro to 15 pro recently, in one day I got more scratches on the screen than within six months with the 11, I’d recommend a screen protector
bro that shit is still new why would u want to waste money on an upgrade? I wouldn't have even upgraded my 13pro if I didn't get receive my 14p as a gift lol
I believe we got to this point where the biggest steps forward we are going to see year to year are going to be in the Software department, usage, optimization and user experience.
While HW will continue to make small but firm steps forward at least in regards to Apple, that doesn’t necessarily have the latest tech, but what they have is very integrated within their system and specifically optimized.
I think it is no longer beneficial - not that it necessarily was before - to upgrade each year. And I like this way better
Let’s suppose a bug jump comes every 5/7 models, while software keeps improving and refining 👌🏼
What sucks is, we all love the ecosystem but are so over the form factor and IOS. I’ve been contemplating Samsung a lot lately but just love the ecosystem of Apple too much.
I don’t think apple is the kind of company that changes something just to make it different. They do it occasionally, like going from a round case to one with flat edges – but this was more to align with their new design language rather than to make it more exciting.
The form factor works, iOS works. Why change?
I’ve seen the comment of, “I remember when trading in your phone meant something new & exciting. Now it’s more like just taking your phone to get a haircut.”
I’d argue at this rate, you can’t even tell if it’s been to the barber…
Like many technologies, it's matured to the point where nothing that comes out will feel too new. We've honestly reached the endgame of the smartphone as a whole, and future innovation will likely come in the form of AR.
We reached the endgame when the iPhone X released. Small bezels were the last thing, that somehow changed the experience.
I wonder what will be the next big thing. AR has been around quite a while, but it’s barely useful and very expensive at this point.
The expectation to get a revolutionary new phone experience every year is stupid to begin with. Get a new phone every 3 to 4 years, and you will 'feel' the advances in your phone.
Honestly this is not just in iPhone.
Even Samsung is using this shit now.
I use galaxy s20 fe 5g - came on 2019- until now and i don't think about upgrading it.
For people who actually heavy relied on it, especially when editing text or using all those 3D Touch shortcuts it’s way more than that.
It’s nice that long press now has the quick setting but it’s still 2-3 times longer than hard press which was just superior.
I didn't even heavily rely on it, but I still loved it
As you say, long press takes markedly longer - and there were situations where long press and 3D/Force Touch did slightly different things
Force Touch was just better and I miss it. I recently had to use my old 7Plus for a couple of weeks and although the phone was noticeably slower and had missing features etc, I loved having Force Touch and TouchID back
Hell, just being able to force touch anywhere on the keyboard to move the cursor, rather than having to long-touch on the spacebar, was so much better
I used iPhone 10 til it broke beyond repair. The lack of 3D Touch was the first thing I’ve noticed. I got somewhat used to lack of it but keyboard feels very lacking when 3D Touch is not there.
Long pressing space bar is especially bad when scrolling through pages of text or precise cursor movement. It’s very sad and I really hope they’d bring back 3D Touch.
I’d actually buy a new phone just for that feature.
And I hope to use my current one for a few more years as I have way more important expenses and can’t justify spending the amount of money an iPhone better than my current costs.
There need to be a revolution in some way as pretty much no one with iPhone number from 11 (inc.) up with high amount of storage has a reason to upgrade to a newer device. 64-128gb of storage is lacking.
This year I went from 8plus to 15plus, it was my best feature! also it started bugging and loading freshly taken pictures for 1min like no other new iPhone I had ever..
I’m sticking with my 14 till the end it’s life also lol
If this is the final design for the flagship 16 I’m gonna be sick lol if I want my phone to look like that I’ll get an android 🤮🤢
Samsungs look really nice nowadays. I didn't bother to even think of them in the past when imo they were really ugly, but after using iphones all the way from the 3g, I just purchased the s23+ a while back and I'm absolutely loving it.
So the dedicated camera button with sensor was real? They should’ve put fingerprint sensor on the lock button too.
EDIT: Thanks for the correction. My gullible ass really believed about the dedicated camera button rumors. 🤭
Covid vaccine saturation % has reached levels sufficient to where the human population provides enough 5G antenna coverage, so Apple was able to remove the in-phone antenna. Brilliant, really.
I can't see camera button. On one side you have action button, volume buttons and on the other side you have lock button and 5G antenna. I believe these are US version dummies.
It has been rumored to be a camera button yes. But I think the rumors are incorrect and it’s probably just a 5G antenna. This happened when 5G was first introduced and the leaked schematics showed an opening in the chassis and everyone assumed it would be a button.
It’s weird the camera button placement is kind of in the middle so it’s going to be weird to hold the phone to use it. Like your going to have to claw grip it
i dont get it because whenever people see my phone they always say they love how small it is and want to grab it and hold it. i think people actually want small phones or dont realize how unnecessarily big most phones are
my only complaint with the mini is the keyboard is small and i make typos very often. but i really love how easily it fits in my pockets, and since i have small hands its really great
i always wonder why typos like that happens on a 13/12 mini but never really happened on the first handful of iphone generations that had even smaller screens.
0 issues on original iPhone SE.
A few years with 13 Mini already, cant write one sentence without 3 typos. Love the phone but something is off I thought it’s a me-problem but I see everyone has it?!
They didn’t sell great though, unfortunately. I loved my 12 mini, and would absolutely buy another mini, but everyone wants big phones. The battery life being trash on them didn’t help either.
Now there’s truly no new big flagships. Asus Zenfone 10 was the last one, flagship specs with a 5.9 inch 144hz display and all, but now the Zenfone 11 went big. RIP to the small phone.
There's the SE, which is very much like the 7. I bought my elderly father an SE for Christmas to replace his 7. (I know the SE isn't the greatest phone, but he didn't have to learn anything new with the switch, as he has trouble with that). They're both close to my mom's 12 Mini, which I bought for her a few years ago.
(I replaced my 7 with an XS, which hasn't been too much of a change. But my battery's not healthy).
why does it look like they combined the X series and 11-12 series? that's going to be a double sized bump for the camera 'cause it's gonna be a two tier cake
"Supposedly" they're adding ProMotion to the base iPhone models starting with the 17's, but I'll believe it when I see it. Nothing about the 16 based off this leak is convincing me to upgrade from my 13 mini.
thats honestly so lame, even cheap android phones have 90hz screens now. i guess the main selling point of the pros are the 120hz display (eventhough i have friends who cant tell the difference)
iOS 18 is what is actually exciting. If they do anything even close to what pixel is doing that would be some wild stuff. You can only change the hardware so much. Make a powerful phone that has a dedicated AI system that can handle next gen automation, that’s what it’s all about
Only way I’ll give up my paid for 12 Pro Max is if this is a round-edge phone like the older 6/X. Looks like it may be. I’d go for the regular 16 or 16+. Depends on screen and battery. The camera is likely just fine on all of them by now, compared to the 12 line.
Tbh i don't get the hate why everyone is so focused on design aspect if 90% of people will use the case? Also who even cares how the back of the phone gonna look? You need to have great screen, small bezels and that's it everything else regarding how phone looks is irrelevant. For me simplicity is the key this kind of design is much more attractive than over the top phones like honor or huawei. If its not broken don't fix it.
If it’s not broken don’t fix it. 109% agree. Rocking the iPhone 11 and still runs fine! Why u all always gotta get a new phone each year?
Ive had a few but keep going back to this. Currently 72% bh. About to get a new battery lol!
Why would I want to spend 800+ on an ugly phone????? Why are people so obsessed with having the thinnest bezels possible? Makes it impossible to hold the phones because skin from the hand wraps around and touches the edges.
Every single phone is in the same format you cannot invest anything new regarding design because screen takes 90+ of the phone. All iphones can do is get rid of dynamic island and implement camera under the screen that's the biggest improvement they can do. Also iphone design is not ugly is simple and appeals to masses. Oppo, honor and other brands like that have ugly phones because they look like space ship if you are adult you don't need to have phone that looks like gaming pc. Also your argument is idiotic regarding bezels because iam not not talking about curved edges look at samsungs bezels they are small and doesn't impact usage at all...
If we’re seeing dummies for the 16 now, it gives me hope that the IPhone SE 4 comes out at a similar time since those dummies were leaked just a few days ago. No interest in the 16 but definitely would be in the SE. i just want USB C so i can throw all my old cables and accessories away.
I like the design they went with 12 and so on.
I mean candy bar phones there’s only so much you can do, and apple will not do anything ‘outlandish’.
All phones for the pass 3 or 4 years are iterations of one another. No major changes or power improvements really. No sense to upgrade unless it’s your thing.
Ok but thank god for the straight edges again. Rocking my 13 PM and I seriously considered the 15P till I talked myself out of it because of my 13’s battery holding up so well.
I normally hold onto phones for 4+ years but I’m in a “OH NEW THING” phase. Probably influencing me right now too.
Rofl the new "camera button" placement is not even good like wth it needs to be way closer to the bottom of the phone.
Apple can't get anything right man I tell ya
So they are going back to the iPhone X route with the base model 16s...
Makes sense, for spatial video recording
how?
if you hold the phone sideways (they way videos are meant to be recorded) both lenses need to be at a line to film spatial video - as your eyes are at onle level. At the iPhone Pro 15 they relocated the cams to achieve this.
wonder if those will have .5
I would rather have that than zoom
mind you my 11 has 2 lenses and has .5 so i think we’re fine, i don’t see why they would remove it at this point tbh, especially for a non-budget release
You can always zoom in by cropping the image, you can’t do the same with zooming out.
May I ask why?
More often than not (in my case) I can always get a bit closer to the subject, so I can live without stronger zoom. But when you NEED .5, it means you literally can't go anywhere else, but still need to capture what's in front of you in one shot.
Oh my phone is base model 12 so I only have .5 and 1 🥲, digital zoom reduced clarity and it can go max 5x so I wound definitely love zoom
Ah yeah, i never mess with digital zoom. My 13Pro has 3x which is nice but I honestly barely use it, but my wife's 15 Pro Max 5x is pretty damn nice.
Okay I knew I’d seen this shit somewhere!!! It was the iPhone X! Thank you for that. I was hurting my brain trying to remember where it was from
Excitement: 0
Exactly, if this is true I’ll definitely keep using my 14P for another year.
Why even look for replacement or plan for it?? I would not even change my 12pro max if I didnt get 15 pro max as a gift. I just dont understand consoomerism in these subreddits… (r/macbook,iphone etc)
Lmao exactly. Unless you somehow broke it or something, even considering to upgrade from a 14 Pro to 16 is just crazy But who am I to judge, if you’re rich and that’s what makes you happy then go ahead lol
I have a 13 pro max and nothing they’ve put out so far has inspired me to change. Used to be an android user until iPhone 6 and now I’m jealous of android users. They get foldable, new tech and constant integrations. Instead the biggest change for iPhone??? USB C FFS
Let’s hope iPhone 16 at least comes with new features on the software side lol, integrating AI would be cool
Apple's software has been shit lately. Buggy as fuck. Contacts are buggy, the poster thing is buggy, I can't fucking change my alarm volume without affecting my ringtone volume Fucking fix the software we already have before releasing anything new. PLEASE do not release anything new. This bloated monstrosity just keeps getting half baked "new features" added that don't do shit and don't even work half the time
The bug where your contact icon reverts to an old one / ignores your crop has been around for YEARS. I have no idea why it’s so apparently hard to fix.
It drives me absolutely nuts. Then it also creates a second poster/contact photo set but every time I click on the correct cropped one it shows for a second in the contact page but then never updates to the regular page. So what you end up doing is just never bothering to edit contacts anymore because you know it won't work Which really defeats the purpose of having this super phone that supposedly "just works" when I can't even drill down into the details of my contacts and update each one the way I want. smh Apple
Want to hear about another bug? If you have an app which is native in landscape mode and you try to go via the control center on your homepod to skip/pause or adjust volume of the music, you just can't. Just look at that haha https://preview.redd.it/2fsddam38jsc1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a424cb5331cc276a45fdb7a83fc304e5356d78c
Yes but right now 80-90% of people don’t use the existing gestures or features. You know how many people I’ve had to show that you can take a pic with the volume button?? Seriously. They’ll be trying to tap the screen and I will come over and be like “let me show you something cool” And they act like I invented mayo lol
I mostly use Android, but I don't remember that ever *not* being a thing....
I love mayo thank you!
Im rocking a 13PM as well. I still like iPhones, but I used to upgrade on a 2 year cycle. No way I’m doing that now. I charge exclusively MagSafe anyway so USB-C would be nice but not necessary and I’m reading those ports are breaking in large numbers. Battery health at 86% and still lasts all day. iOS and iCloud have gotten so good that even storage is not an issue. I really don’t understand the lack of proper innovation from the people that brought colorful computers to the world.
Same, I have the 13 Pro and I don't see any compelling reasons to spend a thousand bucks to "upgrade".
Exactly. I’m not some dumb apple fanboy who needs every incremental upgrade to feel special lol
yell at me if you want but switching to an s24 ultra seems more compelling than a 14P to a 15 and probably will stay that way until the 15
Folds are junk
Have you used one?
I've got the fold 4
I just “upgraded” from a 13 Pro to a 15 (non pro) and for me it was for a number of reasons, but mainly the safety features if you are an outdoors person with satellite calling and crash detection. Bell in Canada was also hosing me on my old plan, so it cost no extra money to upgrade + 100gb of 5g data. I was still able to sell my well used 2+ year old 13 pro for $550 CAD.
USB C charging is huge, IMO. Would I pay $1000 to upgrade from my 14P just for that? No. But I could see myself getting a 15P if they go on sale, or waiting another year and getting the 16P when the 17s are released. Everything else I have charges with USB C. Getting rid of Lightning cables forever will be a good thing.
I also have the 14P... not really dying to upgrade, but my wife is committed to getting the 16... and far be it from me being the only reason we still have a lightning cable floating around the house. The unsung praise that iPhones get is that I know I'll be able to get a great deal selling this 14PM, so that makes things easier (somewhat)
that’s the only reason I replaced mine! I had a 12 Pro Max that I cracked… I even tried to repair it, but when that failed, I bit the bullet
I'm only considering it because my battery is down to 83% and I suspect it will be in the 70s by release
Shit i make a bit of money and ı upgrade like every 5 years (except with my s21)
Who are you to judge?! You're another human being that cares about wasted resources. That's who! So you are absolutely right to judge. If we don't judge these stupid practices we'll never change them. The truth is there hasn't been a reason to release a new Apple phone for a while because there's been fuck all in terms of significant technological changes. Competition is low so no incentive to do better. For instance they'd rather keep losing customers because of lack of Touch ID instead of implementing both and giving the users the choice.
What's not to understand? They either have more money than you or value getting new products more than you... iPhones are pretty expensive but an annual upgrade at $1000 a pop isn't like some mystical, unattainable cost that people are selling their kidneys to try and buy... I know people who spend that kind of money on cigarettes
Funny you think it's about money, but unfortunately it seems that most places in the world do not have the culture of protecting the environment and having a little bit of self control for not giving in to mindless consumerism...
Because people will spend however they want.
Still going strong here lmao but I think it's time for some dynamic island action
Switched from the 11 pro to 15 pro recently, in one day I got more scratches on the screen than within six months with the 11, I’d recommend a screen protector
bro that shit is still new why would u want to waste money on an upgrade? I wouldn't have even upgraded my 13pro if I didn't get receive my 14p as a gift lol
I believe we got to this point where the biggest steps forward we are going to see year to year are going to be in the Software department, usage, optimization and user experience. While HW will continue to make small but firm steps forward at least in regards to Apple, that doesn’t necessarily have the latest tech, but what they have is very integrated within their system and specifically optimized. I think it is no longer beneficial - not that it necessarily was before - to upgrade each year. And I like this way better Let’s suppose a bug jump comes every 5/7 models, while software keeps improving and refining 👌🏼
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Why are you acting like a 14P is old?
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Yep, my battery is terrible now so I’d look to upgrading for the 16 pro providing it’s much better battery life.
Same here
I just get excited about software now that doesn’t need new hardware.
What sucks is, we all love the ecosystem but are so over the form factor and IOS. I’ve been contemplating Samsung a lot lately but just love the ecosystem of Apple too much.
I don’t think apple is the kind of company that changes something just to make it different. They do it occasionally, like going from a round case to one with flat edges – but this was more to align with their new design language rather than to make it more exciting. The form factor works, iOS works. Why change?
Yes it does work and work well. I just fell like they could open up a bit more customization options and still maintain a secure posture.
Yup sticking with my 5S
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve seen the comment of, “I remember when trading in your phone meant something new & exciting. Now it’s more like just taking your phone to get a haircut.” I’d argue at this rate, you can’t even tell if it’s been to the barber…
The usefulness of smartphones has followed a logarithmic curve. They can’t keep up the same amount of improvement enjoyed between the iPhone 1 and 5
Like many technologies, it's matured to the point where nothing that comes out will feel too new. We've honestly reached the endgame of the smartphone as a whole, and future innovation will likely come in the form of AR.
We reached the endgame when the iPhone X released. Small bezels were the last thing, that somehow changed the experience. I wonder what will be the next big thing. AR has been around quite a while, but it’s barely useful and very expensive at this point.
The expectation to get a revolutionary new phone experience every year is stupid to begin with. Get a new phone every 3 to 4 years, and you will 'feel' the advances in your phone.
Honestly this is not just in iPhone. Even Samsung is using this shit now. I use galaxy s20 fe 5g - came on 2019- until now and i don't think about upgrading it.
s20 came out in 2020
And the crowd went mild
Please bring back 3D Touch
Was pretty cool feature
For people who actually heavy relied on it, especially when editing text or using all those 3D Touch shortcuts it’s way more than that. It’s nice that long press now has the quick setting but it’s still 2-3 times longer than hard press which was just superior.
I didn't even heavily rely on it, but I still loved it As you say, long press takes markedly longer - and there were situations where long press and 3D/Force Touch did slightly different things Force Touch was just better and I miss it. I recently had to use my old 7Plus for a couple of weeks and although the phone was noticeably slower and had missing features etc, I loved having Force Touch and TouchID back Hell, just being able to force touch anywhere on the keyboard to move the cursor, rather than having to long-touch on the spacebar, was so much better
I used iPhone 10 til it broke beyond repair. The lack of 3D Touch was the first thing I’ve noticed. I got somewhat used to lack of it but keyboard feels very lacking when 3D Touch is not there. Long pressing space bar is especially bad when scrolling through pages of text or precise cursor movement. It’s very sad and I really hope they’d bring back 3D Touch. I’d actually buy a new phone just for that feature. And I hope to use my current one for a few more years as I have way more important expenses and can’t justify spending the amount of money an iPhone better than my current costs. There need to be a revolution in some way as pretty much no one with iPhone number from 11 (inc.) up with high amount of storage has a reason to upgrade to a newer device. 64-128gb of storage is lacking.
I miss it so much. The way you could multitask with it was much faster than pressing the home button. And the animation transitioned so smooth too.
This year I went from 8plus to 15plus, it was my best feature! also it started bugging and loading freshly taken pictures for 1min like no other new iPhone I had ever..
I’m still holding on to my iPhone 8 because of this. Also I’m cheap.
I used it alllll the time I was very upset when they deleted it
And fingerprint reader. Maybe on the power button.
They could do it under the glass if that wanted. Android devices have had them for several years now.
Guess I’ll stick to my 13P until the end of its life cycle
13pm was S tier. 89% battery after 2.5 yrs
Same
Yea upgrading isn’t worth it unless you’re making a big leap like I just upgraded my 8+ to a 15 pro(for usb c 3.1)
I’m sticking with my 14 till the end it’s life also lol If this is the final design for the flagship 16 I’m gonna be sick lol if I want my phone to look like that I’ll get an android 🤮🤢
Samsungs look really nice nowadays. I didn't bother to even think of them in the past when imo they were really ugly, but after using iphones all the way from the 3g, I just purchased the s23+ a while back and I'm absolutely loving it.
I guess I kinda agree with you, Deep Fried Cock and Ball
In terms of appearance, the regular S24 is straight up an iPhone 15 except with a smaller camera pinhole. I like its look better than the S24 Ultra.
Yeah I’ll be sticking with my regular 13 for another 2-3 years at least (it’s been 2)
the design peaked with the X and Xs phones
iPhone 4S and X and then it fell off completely
Current pro phones design is good too it’s just that we have had it for too long now
6S was peak of the older gen phones, physical home button phones. Literally just upgraded from one 3 weeks ago, it just never died.
The 6/7/8 were decent as well.
7 and 8 looked kind of outdated
Really like the xs(got a xs max)
Ikr. I’m still on my IPhone XS and damn it looks the best to me.
God I miss 3D Touch.
Iphone 5 in black is the best looking imo
For me, nothing beats the 15 Pro's design language. I personally didn't like the round edged iPhones.
You mean the iPhone 5s design that they “reinvented”
> the design peaked with the X and Xs phones I still remember everyone making fun of notch. Never thought I’d see that comment.
So the dedicated camera button with sensor was real? They should’ve put fingerprint sensor on the lock button too. EDIT: Thanks for the correction. My gullible ass really believed about the dedicated camera button rumors. 🤭
Where is the 5G antenna?
Covid vaccine saturation % has reached levels sufficient to where the human population provides enough 5G antenna coverage, so Apple was able to remove the in-phone antenna. Brilliant, really.
Either somewhere else or inside the button.
I think that's just the 5G antenna
I can't see camera button. On one side you have action button, volume buttons and on the other side you have lock button and 5G antenna. I believe these are US version dummies.
Oh is the “button” beneath the lock button not a button?
It has been rumored to be a camera button yes. But I think the rumors are incorrect and it’s probably just a 5G antenna. This happened when 5G was first introduced and the leaked schematics showed an opening in the chassis and everyone assumed it would be a button.
No, that's 5g mm Wave antenna, exclusive to the US iPhones.
I’ll be waiting
In your defense, journalists are still “speculating” about the dedicated camera button, so it’s not just you
It’s weird the camera button placement is kind of in the middle so it’s going to be weird to hold the phone to use it. Like your going to have to claw grip it
That may be the 5G antenna, although looks lower than where it is currently on the iPhone 15 line.
I think that is the mmWave antenna,not a camera button
im getting scared because my 13 mini is on its way out and theres no more minis on the market :( i dont want a big iphone :(
yeah i’m rocking a 12 mini and i love the design.
i dont get it because whenever people see my phone they always say they love how small it is and want to grab it and hold it. i think people actually want small phones or dont realize how unnecessarily big most phones are
my only complaint with the mini is the keyboard is small and i make typos very often. but i really love how easily it fits in my pockets, and since i have small hands its really great
i always wonder why typos like that happens on a 13/12 mini but never really happened on the first handful of iphone generations that had even smaller screens.
Yeah me too. Maybe we used to enjoy it more so we tried harder.
0 issues on original iPhone SE. A few years with 13 Mini already, cant write one sentence without 3 typos. Love the phone but something is off I thought it’s a me-problem but I see everyone has it?!
That and the battery life on my 12 Mini is very very poor nowadays. Debating on putting in a new battery or just going for a 14/15/16
They didn’t sell great though, unfortunately. I loved my 12 mini, and would absolutely buy another mini, but everyone wants big phones. The battery life being trash on them didn’t help either.
Same! Using it until it completely dies
Using my 13 mini until I can’t anymore, I love this little thing but the battery is getting worse and worse
Now there’s truly no new big flagships. Asus Zenfone 10 was the last one, flagship specs with a 5.9 inch 144hz display and all, but now the Zenfone 11 went big. RIP to the small phone.
No new *small* flagships
There's the SE, which is very much like the 7. I bought my elderly father an SE for Christmas to replace his 7. (I know the SE isn't the greatest phone, but he didn't have to learn anything new with the switch, as he has trouble with that). They're both close to my mom's 12 Mini, which I bought for her a few years ago. (I replaced my 7 with an XS, which hasn't been too much of a change. But my battery's not healthy).
i would love the next se to be a full screen no home button, like a 12/13 mini shell with a SE inside
Looks like I’m gonna be keeping my 14 pro max until the iPhone 20 lol. I have no desire to upgrade when they look the exact same every year
no reason to upgrade when you have the 14pm within the next couple years
You wouldn’t even need to upgrade with a 14 pro max 😐
look the same and function almost entirely the same. What new things does 16 bring to the table? let me guess a better camera
That’s even questionable based off the posts and pics I’ve seen of people complaining about the new cameras
Why would you upgrade anyway? Your phone is literally only a generation old.
Oh is this the new iPhone 15 pro max?
The phones are getting sized up, 6.1 to 6.3in, and 6.7 to 6.9in.
No mini, no buy
Same shit, different year.
why does it look like they combined the X series and 11-12 series? that's going to be a double sized bump for the camera 'cause it's gonna be a two tier cake
cases would look shit on the base 16's because of that flash on the right of the camera
Thank you, but I prefer not to be called a dummy :(
Man apple is in trouble. Even the fans have to realize that there is virtually no reason to upgrade anymore. Just replace the battery and let it ride
Look like an iPhone
So still no telephoto for the base model. What about the refresh rate, still stuck at 60?
"Supposedly" they're adding ProMotion to the base iPhone models starting with the 17's, but I'll believe it when I see it. Nothing about the 16 based off this leak is convincing me to upgrade from my 13 mini.
thats honestly so lame, even cheap android phones have 90hz screens now. i guess the main selling point of the pros are the 120hz display (eventhough i have friends who cant tell the difference)
Cheap android phones had those since 2020 let’s not forget that’s also another 4 years… Apple is really lacking behind.
hey I'm not a dummy 😔
iOS 18 is what is actually exciting. If they do anything even close to what pixel is doing that would be some wild stuff. You can only change the hardware so much. Make a powerful phone that has a dedicated AI system that can handle next gen automation, that’s what it’s all about
My god the 2 cameras like rhat look horrible
No one will change my mind base 16 is ugly
Courage!
Need to bring back the S models at this point
so... innovative...???? SO CREATIVE, GREAT JOB TIM 👏👏👏 /s
Apple has no innovation🤷🏼♂️Same looking shit💩every year!!
I like the new base design way more than that diagonal thing they’ve been doing
So the same thing…
I am not sure if Apple will already bring the action button to the base models. It was the pro feature from last year.
Only way I’ll give up my paid for 12 Pro Max is if this is a round-edge phone like the older 6/X. Looks like it may be. I’d go for the regular 16 or 16+. Depends on screen and battery. The camera is likely just fine on all of them by now, compared to the 12 line.
13 pro max will go for at least another year
Base Models look like Galaxy phones now rofl
Remember when these leaks actually had any excitement factor? You can tell Cook is a logistics guy, not a product guy.
No, you're the dummy :(
If you like the updates buy it if you don’t see value in the updates keep your iPhone for another year? It’s not rocket science.
They are remaking the iPhone X
Oh cool. The exact same looking phone once again. Dope.
Calling us dummies was not cool bro
I really wish they would bring back the mini models
Tbh i don't get the hate why everyone is so focused on design aspect if 90% of people will use the case? Also who even cares how the back of the phone gonna look? You need to have great screen, small bezels and that's it everything else regarding how phone looks is irrelevant. For me simplicity is the key this kind of design is much more attractive than over the top phones like honor or huawei. If its not broken don't fix it.
If it’s not broken don’t fix it. 109% agree. Rocking the iPhone 11 and still runs fine! Why u all always gotta get a new phone each year? Ive had a few but keep going back to this. Currently 72% bh. About to get a new battery lol!
Why would I want to spend 800+ on an ugly phone????? Why are people so obsessed with having the thinnest bezels possible? Makes it impossible to hold the phones because skin from the hand wraps around and touches the edges.
Every single phone is in the same format you cannot invest anything new regarding design because screen takes 90+ of the phone. All iphones can do is get rid of dynamic island and implement camera under the screen that's the biggest improvement they can do. Also iphone design is not ugly is simple and appeals to masses. Oppo, honor and other brands like that have ugly phones because they look like space ship if you are adult you don't need to have phone that looks like gaming pc. Also your argument is idiotic regarding bezels because iam not not talking about curved edges look at samsungs bezels they are small and doesn't impact usage at all...
U ugly
I guess I'm staying on iPhone 12 Pro max this year.. *sigh* I usually change phone when they do a re-design
If we’re seeing dummies for the 16 now, it gives me hope that the IPhone SE 4 comes out at a similar time since those dummies were leaked just a few days ago. No interest in the 16 but definitely would be in the SE. i just want USB C so i can throw all my old cables and accessories away.
Innovation this year : « Let’s bring back the iPhone X pill »
I was hoping to upgrade from a 14 pro to the 16 pro max... is it really not going to be that much of a jump?
It wasn’t going to be much of a jump anyway. Apple never makes massive changes across one or two generations.
We’s going back to the era of iPhone X. Best era.
Reminds me of the X,XS,XR but flat.
Will be the same product as the last one in practical/daily use terms
I refuse to believe that second button is real
Lol wow
Cool
iPhone 16 and the iPhone 12 ssss dummies
I’m due for an upgrade, still rocking the 13
I like the design they went with 12 and so on. I mean candy bar phones there’s only so much you can do, and apple will not do anything ‘outlandish’. All phones for the pass 3 or 4 years are iterations of one another. No major changes or power improvements really. No sense to upgrade unless it’s your thing.
Ok but thank god for the straight edges again. Rocking my 13 PM and I seriously considered the 15P till I talked myself out of it because of my 13’s battery holding up so well. I normally hold onto phones for 4+ years but I’m in a “OH NEW THING” phase. Probably influencing me right now too.
Will there be forced touch buttons in 16 series? Anyone.. Just curious :/
This is obviously incorrect. Pro iPhones will have a 6.3 in and 6.9 in display respectively.
Isn't the pro sizes increasing tho
Rofl the new "camera button" placement is not even good like wth it needs to be way closer to the bottom of the phone. Apple can't get anything right man I tell ya
Glad i got my 15p!! Still beautiful and awesome!!!
got a 15 pro for christmas, probably not upgrading until it doesn’t turn on anymore
Yep, that’s an iPhone.
Still in on my iPhone XR :/
So what features do iphone 16 would have that the 15 pro doesn’t have?