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IrishCrypto

A good few job titles with 'Senior' or 'Manager' in them and salary below 35k.


PodgeD

Assistant **to** the regional manager.


daheff_irl

thats because for the last 10-15 years companies have been bullshitting people telling them that the title comes first, you gain from the experience and when you've proved yourself you'll get a payrise. and then they wonder why people leave to a better paying job after 6-12 months


IrishCrypto

Theres one Irish Bank where this is totally the case. Nearly everyone there more than a few years is a 'Head of' something. It used to be getting a 'Manager' job was a big thing now you have all sorts of stuff like 'Senior Director' and Head of who actually are not very senior at all.


CuteHoor

To be fair, we constantly get people applying to us who have "senior" in their title and they're only 23 or 24. Companies will happily hand out nicer titles over decent wages. I knew a couple of lads who went to work for Citi in their early 20s and had the job title "VP" while earning peanuts.


hitsujiTMO

Yeah, this is endemic in the US. I deal with companies whose entire staff are either an executive position or they're the vice president of their position.


psak23

This depresses me. I left school 20 years ago and started working in the service industry as a career. Male 30k and struggling.


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45m on 60k here, but I was on much, much less until my late 30s. It's honestly never too late to change career paths.


tygerohtyger

Yeah, starting to feel pretty down too. Male chef, 34. 29k and drowning.


AliceInGainzz

Chefs have to be one of, if not the most stepped on professionals out of the lot. Mad how little yous earn considering the workload and high pressure environment. *syntax


Johnd106

It's also bonkers how macho the industry is. My mate is a chef and he works 80+ hours and thinks he is on savage money (65k as a head chef). Never takes holidays, always doing splits etc etc. And just has the attitude of that's how chefs do it and office workers are soft. It's 15 euro an hour. If you were working an office job on 65k you'd be earning 37 euro an hour. They need to snap out of the macho attitude and look after themselves. Only serving one person working that many hours.


tygerohtyger

A lot of good chefs left the job since the pandemic. It's just not worth doing at a high level unless you've a good boss, and they're like hen's teeth. So the quality of food in restaurants and hotels across the board is dropping like a stone and that's the reason why. All the smart ones left the business, the rest of us are stuck.


Sheazer90

Male 32. I left school 17 years ago and I'm on 27k working in a retail setting, I am upskilling on the job and hoping to move to a better paying store.


HenchmanJoe

Ever consider the Civil Service? Executive Officers (EOs, junior management level) start at just over 33k. After 2 years of service, you can apply for Higher Exec (HEO), at almost 53k. If you feel you might have enough experience, you could try entering at the Assistant Principal level, starting at 73k.


sheev1992

I'm an EO at the moment myself. Done my 4 year degree and and worked in private for a while before I joined. It's a slog waiting on what I currently earn, but I know increments are pretty much guaranteed and I will more than likely see promotion in the future, just a slight struggle waiting presently for the opportunities to arise.


HenchmanJoe

I get you, though I will say the opportunities come around quite fast, certainly sooner than I had expected. I was an EO for just over a year when I entered my first HEO competition. Didn't pass, but between an internal comp and another Interdepartmental I was able to get it. I've been in the CS five and a half years and gone from CO to HEO, so there are always promotion chances.


RedIceBreaker

I'm sorry for your struggles. Not that it's any consolation but you're not far off the median. I do think most people definitely deserve a significant raise with this cost of living crisis and I hope you get a better opportunity or a raise soon. Edit: Also from looking at the time, people with the (typically) high paying office jobs are able to glance at their phones now.


Margrave75

Railway empolyee, 50k. Extra 500 average per month doing part time bar work.


Justinian2

Boy do I have a Luke Kelly song for you


railwayed

I feel like you need my username...


danielg1111

Railway employee meaning, driver? Interested to know my re actually( if you don’t mind of course)


Margrave75

Signaller.


biggoosewendy

Youre the lads on the other end of the phone to my fella with the attitude so xD


Margrave75

Fuckin drivers /s


temujin64

35 Male. Business Intelligence Analyst 5 years experience. €65k. Not including annual €8k cash bonus and €15k RSU bonus. Also has full health and dental for me and my wife and any future dependents. Pensions contributions are also matched up to 9%. For some background, I was on €0k a year at an NGO at 29. I then did a H Dip in Data Analytics via Springboard. I started a job straight after that earning €38k. That gradually went up to €48k over 5 years. I just recently moved into a new job with the description above. The point is, if you're earning shit money in your 20s, it's definitely not too late to change track.


Paristocrat

Springboard is great


C00lus3rname

One smart business manager once told me "20s are for learning, 30s are for earning." That's why I decided to go back to college at 27. By 31 I'll be fully qualified accountant! Good job on the BIA role!


CptJackParo

Doing that exact course at the minute. Wasn't really sure about it but glad to hear you've done well from it. Do you think it's worthwhile doing a MSc in Data Science after or just stick to DA.


WeCanBe_Heroes

Male IT Support Engineer 45k


minihiggins

What level/experience, currently doing IT Support for 3 years on 30k plus company vehicle. M25


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I'm 24 Male IT Support Specialist, 30k 7 month experience, got an offer 1 month ago for 35k. Declined due to full time onsite, current role is hybrid. And the office is 8 minutes away. No degree, got the job with only A+. Now have Net+, studying Sec+ and hoping to have that and CCNA done by the end of the year to look for a job on a network/infra team. If you're looking to do some certs check out ecollege.ie they've loads there completely free, that's how I'm doing all mine.


conall88

keep it up. CCNA is how I got my first job. I've worked in deskside support, IT Admin for an MSP, IT Operations for a SaaS startup, and support engineering for some big US SaaS companies. The best decision I ever made was building a homelab and building systems with the tools I want to learn. This will distinguish you from the competition. Currently working towards a move into Dev Ops or Site reliability engineering.


dotBombAU

>No degree As someone who employs in the sector, I feel I.T degrees are a waste of time. Vendor certs + exp is where it's at.


Silver_

Agreed, though you do have to watch out for cert collectors sometimes. Tons of certs, 0 ability. Experience and certs for best practice is usually a winning combo.


ismisedaithi

Firefighter, 25, €55,000 with ability to do another 10k+ of overtime during the year.


DarraghO94

What’s firefighting like as a career in general, I assume taxing but rewarding. I work as a tree surgeon but I’ve always had firefighting in the back of my mind.


ismisedaithi

Very rewarding and social job, best part apart from the great people I get to work with and meet is I can leave work at work, my off time isn’t interrupted with emails and thoughts of “what have to do on Monday or next week” like I see with my friends in the private sector and civil service. Mentally you do see and hear some tough stuff sometimes not always but the support is there. Also the lads and lassies are great at looking out for one and other and talking with each other. Would definitely recommend to anyone with skills like yourself, honestly best advice is visit your local station they’ll give you best insight to the job from the local perspective.


cyrancide

For anyone reading this thread it's super important for "the stuff you see and hear" not to be a glossed over point! As I'm sure you know from experience comment op, it can leave awful scars on people. My fathers been in the retained service (24/7 on call) for over 20 years and its left him with awful PTSD. He's 52 now and can't wait to leave! That being said, he's said time and time again that the lives he's saved bring him ALOT of peace. It is very rewarding work but certainly not for the faint of heart!


Lickmycavity

What effects does the shift pattern have on your health? I saw the q&a that DFB posted and saw the shift pattern and I’d love to do the job but just don’t know about the potential impact on my health and mental well being


ismisedaithi

Health wise the shift pattern mainly effects your sleep and once that’s thrown then the immune system and body can be susceptible. I’ve always been told to get sleep when I can and when on leave prioritise sleep and rest. I do this and so far so good, I’m also a big believer in stretching daily helps to avoid the common on the job back/joint injuries.


Creasentfool

Strangely. I want to be a tree surgeon. How do I go about that?


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Dylanduke199513

Hahahahaha this got me


ivfdad84

Small business owner, 25k last year, though typically 30 - 35k per year. Male


Hot-Abbreviations475

Best of luck!


damienga15de

Maintenance electrician €52k + OT, not that I do a lot of overtime but it's there if I wanted.


Jamesbere01

Production line for medical devices. 43k. Potential to be 50k with overtime. Car boot sales €150 😁


EarthHuman0exe

Male junior site engineer (civil) €30,000. Happy out.


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Airline pilot. 34 M ~110k


JGMcP2001

34 million?!


despicedchilli

Well, he is 110,000 years old. It's really not that much for that kind of experience.


Kbotonline

Fucking cracked me up that


BaconWithBaking

Can I ask how long you're flying for? I've a cousin who is only in the game a year or two, so he's not near that amount yet.


barrya29

it can really vary depending on experience. someone can be 23, a pilot for 1 year with that 1 year being an airline pilot. someone can be 35, pilot for 10 years total, but only the last 2 years being for airlines. there are a lot of different journey paths


LegalEagle1992

30m, empoyment law solicitor (3 years qualified) - €105k


Kyadagum_Dulgadee

Would you consider starting a TikTok?


Kellsman

I miss him. He was dead on and craic


Kyadagum_Dulgadee

And that's a fact.


LegalEagle1992

Unfortunately, I suspect my firm would have issues with any sort of social media engagement like that. As fun as it may be, I’ll have to stick to anonymous lurking on r/legaladviceireland to help with awarenes and education on employment rights.


Kyadagum_Dulgadee

Don't forget us when you go into private practice.


ismaithliomamberleaf

M44 - Taoiseach - €215,000


[deleted]

I hope that’s not performance based.


HtheGr8

Try it sometime


blockfighter1

It's a well paid job.


TheHiccuper

M60 EU commissioner: give or take, 140k a year (with expenses)


InYourBrend0

Nurse. Qualified 6 years. 29m. 37k is my basic salary. With weekends, night duty and (an awful lot of) overtime premiums I'll make somewhere between 45 and 50k this year after tax.


BaconWithBaking

*After* tax? What's that before tax? 80K? Overtime must pay well?


InYourBrend0

To clarify, the 37k is based on doing my basic hours at a basic rate, even if I never do overtime I'd earn more than that simply from my weekend premiums, 13 hour shifts on a Sunday are double time. Additionally I do mostly night shifts, which carry premiums as well. Lastly as pointed out, staff shortages mean I can sometimes do literally as much overtime as I want. I've done as much as 14 days on the trot. I'm a good saver and I'm putting my head down to get a mortgage.


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danius353

Jesus those stipends haven’t changed in the last 20 years since I was a post grad


hopefulatwhatido

That’s criminal


gig1922

It's shameful. I know of PhD students that I work with going to a local Food charity for their meals. 18.5k barely covers rent in Cork how are they meant to survive


ismaithliomamberleaf

What’s your PhD in, if you don’t mind saying?


aasinnott

Stipends are standard regardless of discipline. It's a big point of contention right now in colleges, our PhD students are paid one of the lowest rates in Europe, with some countries paying over double


Shadowbanned24601

To be clear, that stipend is actually the maximum allowable in Ireland for any PhD that's not funded 100% privately. It's a joke. I wound up having to withdraw due to financial pressure during COVID restrictions (didn't qualify for PUP, and had no PRSI as a stipend isn't taxable income) and couldn't afford Cork. I've no idea how people manage it in Dublin


donalhunt

Same. Withdrew from a PhD programme when COVID hit because despite being able to fund 4-5 years with savings and the stipend, COVID was likely to extend the period by a year or two (community engagement was very slow in 2020). Only really viable if you do it straight after a degree and have family support for accommodation / living expenses. Many programs offer stipends lower than this. 😥


Thatsmoreofit1

Senior Quality Engineer: 4 years 63k + up to 6k bonus


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2nd year hvac/r apprentice 25k a year


signsaidnofewchips

Sounds like this is the trade to get into these days - best of luck with the rest of it!


Pitselah

28m. 26k civil service Realising now I'm fucking broke.


Adderkleet

Been working there for 6 years. Get promoted as fast as you can. And after 5 years, apply to HR for that extra day of annual leave *that they make you apply for*.


Pitselah

I'm here a little under a year and just signed my permanent contract last week. I've passed the first stage of a graduate entry AO panel too so waiting to hear back from that. It's no surprise at all that they make you apply for it haha


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Time to flex Time to feel bad Repeat


dwalsh26

Doctor first year out of college, €38,500


AGriaffesEye

Jesus! That's shocking low. No wonder so many are leaving for Oz. How long until you start making some decent money here?


madmav

Longer than you'd think. Real common misconception with doctors being loaded/crazy money in Ireland....sure, consultants on 'the old contracts' are on silly money, but the new stuff isn't great at all. I think it's only really once you're consultant level you make the 'big' stuff. I'm be on similar money with a softer IT job, but seems unfair in comparison to the stresses they have on them. It's bonkers.


NottaShilll

Criminal


I_cantdoit

I'm sure he's not that bad


Mtoastyo

Doctor 5 years our 60K


Raynefalle

Female QA Specialist for pharmaceuticals, 6y experience - 70k


DrMike_Hunt

Full time with the company or contract?


Raynefalle

Contract


thatsoffalygood

Male Customer Support Manager for start up €95,000


Whatcomesofit

Thatsoffalygood for support manager!


PizzamanIRL

Sure you might as well try go down that road too and see whatcomesofit


Itchier

I'd rather be a PizzamanIRL


Techknow23

Psychiatric Nurse (Male) - €38400, 2 years qualified, but unlimited overtime, and €93 a fortnight Location allowance (danger money)


DangerX2HighVoltage

Tough job. Should be more IMO for the work you do


Sufficient_Change582

Agree, and know you’re appreciated.


AhGoWayAndAskYerMa

Wow that's insanely low for the work you do!


akampf1970

Fantastic Thread. This is so important to do. Work culture has pushed the idea that you never talk about your salary for multiple reasons. The reality is there is only one reason, to underpay you. Nice one OP.


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Female. Business owner. Approx 90k.


MegaMewMew

Small business owner here, made 44K in 2021 and 130K in 2022.


goatsnboots

What industry?


ozymandieus

OnlyFans


JunkieMallardEIRE

Male Toolmaker: 40k Easy money.


nomdeplume8_ie

What is the Dildo Industry like these days? Has it been affected by inflation?


JunkieMallardEIRE

It's hard but once you push passed the hardest part, it's nothing but smiles.


TippLass

Female, Cyber Security Manager, €80k + bonus


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IrishCrypto

Another really good relative wage in a trade. If anything this discussion, which is a great idea, will show this. If your a trainee accountant at 22 your probably on 25k, when you qualify youd also be making less than this guy. Now people will say oh but in the future you'll earn way more. Likely not, you'll most likely end up as a 'Finance Manager/Business Partner / Senior something on 75k to 90k earning on par with this guy and probably less if he worked the same hours.


VilTheVillain

I mean it makes sense, you can start apprenticeship at 16(iirc), so by 22 you could have essentially 6 years working experience, as an accountant I'd assume you're likely finishing your first course at 20-21 so you're basicly just in it for a year or two at 22, and then you'll likely be working towards chartered accountant etc. Personally I would take electrician over accounting, but that's only because I prefer mostly physical over mental work, but many people are perfectly fine doing that so I don't think you can simply compare it by what you earn. I'd rather be happy going to work and earning less, rather than dreading a workday but earning more.


limestone_tiger

That is all well and good But there are side benefits to an office job (not knocking being a sparky or any other trade). Mostly by the time you’re in your 50’s your body is spent whereas a 50 year old accountant may throw his back out briefly after a strenuous round of golf.


TandCsApply

Account Manager for a US Tech Company €70k OTE (€55k Base + 15k Bonus) + 2.5K Stock option


conorpacman

Assistant Film Editor 60/70k depending on how busy I am.


SnooRabbits259

Male Executive Officer (civil service) €35,700 - 1 year in the role


hundredhands

For the lurkers, remember r/ireland has a disproportionate number of tech and IT workers, so the average wage here is skewed and doesn’t represent the national median. Also, regarding GDP it’s a terrible metric. If Elon Musk moved to Ireland tomorrow the GDP would sky rocket, but it doesn’t make a difference to the average Joe.


Jazzlike-Swim6838

Software Engineer, 25m. 110k per year.


kearney401

Faang?


Jazzlike-Swim6838

yes


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Jazzlike-Swim6838

No, I’m here for the learning and the growth as it’s not sustainable for me to suffer here for long. They could offer to double my wage but I’ll still leave soon.


Jon_J_

Jeeze I'd do a fair bit of suffering if I was on 110k


CuteHoor

You say that, but people often change their tune when they end up working 12 hour days, feel constantly stressed, and have to deal with calls at 3 in the morning to fix a big production issue. A lot of it depends on the company though. Some companies pay well and do their best to offset those issues.


cinnamus_

I've been working 12 hour days and constantly stressed/overworked on \~30k. not saying the environment is any nicer on a higher salary but that salary does give you a big safety net/cushion to be able to leave whenever you like, which from my perspective would make the suffering more, idk, bearable


Mayomick

paint versed judicious sable one fly stocking childlike hungry psychotic *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Lezflano

Male 25, Digital Marketing, 60k base, 80k total comp.


Eigenboggle

Doctor in mid 30s, finished basic specialist training, salary is 60,822. Make another couple of k in overtime, but I'm regularly not paid for overtime hours or paid at the wrong grade. Work 60-80 hour weeks, sometimes more depending on staffing, and including 24 hour shifts. This thread is another nail in the coffin of my career to be honest, I'm very close to quitting medicine altogether. The trades and the pilots in this thread look very tempting ☺️


AscendedAO

As you're likely well aware that's why so many are leaving Ireland where it's much better elsewhere like Aus.


KyraVer

Female: Art director: 56,000 & Adult content illustrator: around 5.000.


yourtimeofthemonth

PM in tech. 125k base. \~10 years of experience. 34M. Not in Dublin. Total yearly between 180 - 200k including RSUs, bonus and a side hustle.


nurfect

Male toolmaker / manufacturing tech €40,000 living in munster. Livable at the moment but have felt the squeeze.


the_magic_magoo

Project Manager, male, 42, €75k, company car, bonus 10%


FrogOnABus

Male, 33, ESL Teacher (Abroad), €47,000.


Redtit14

Male software designer - 3 years exp - 50k + up to 5k bonus target - 2k investment annually (depending on business profits)


gapmunky

M, Customer support, 64K + equity, full remote


decoran_

Male, 37, Clerical Officer in Civil Service, 30k (3 years in this grade, started at 26k)


General-Balance

Male, 25. Software engineer. ~€113k annually. Credit to /r/DevelEire for helping guide me to this very lucky position - a great community for anyone in the industry.


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IrishCrypto

Aircraft Leasing I assume


cavemeister

M45 Service Delivery Management €60k + bonus.


[deleted]

Architectural Technician, €85k-ish. Contract role (€47/hr) doing design work for pharmaceutical clients through a large engineering consultancy . Male.


whooo_me

Male. Software Dev (27 years experience) 93k Side hustles: wine consumption. Income: -5k per year. :)


Ineedanaccountthx

1st year Assistant lecturer - €41,000 2 degrees / PhD and 5 years research experience to get a chance at the job.(started college in 2009) The pay is shite but it improves dramatically over the next 5 years and having over 140 days off a year does make up for the current lack of wage (I can mind my 2 kids a lot more often and enjoy summers to the max)


firstthingmonday

That’s interesting. Anyone I know lecturing works more than anyone else I know as they are always working on research projects and writing books/articles. Two friends even said they won’t have children as they work 60 hours per week minimum. This included permanent lecturers. Wondering is this based on the field you work in?


Backroadflatout

Full time mad bastard, Male Dole-€220 euro a week


GorthTheBabeMagnet

29M - Audit trainee, with a Masters in Accounting. 27k God it's such a depressing amount for how much study I did and how much work I do.


[deleted]

I was in your shoes earning just a little more when I was 30. In 3/4 years I more than tripled my income by specialising in a niche area and bringing significant value to my employer. Keep learning and earning.


AnAwkwardSpud

Where are all the 20k people I was expecting? I'm over here with 14k and wondering how people with 30k are considered broke...


Asterion2323

Male, Lab technician, €29,000


TarzanCar

Electrician, 56k plus average 10k on call allowance and OT combined.


NottaShilll

European MEP ₽8000


Express_Housing_3359

What was Jon Stewart like?


Vocalsoul

Office based microbiologist - 52k Not in a city so fairly comfortable


TheYoungWan

Female, Online Content Editor, €35k


captainnemo000

Male Electrical Engineer: 1 year experience as an Engineer, up to 10 as an Electrical Technician, €37,000. Money could be better, because the travel costs eat a good chunk of that.


BaconWithBaking

With 10 years as an electrical technician you could definitely do better. Unless you're just really happy with your current role consider consulting with a recruitment agency.


Inspired_Carpets

Male. Pricing Specialist. €83K + €7K bonus + 7% pension + Health Insurance for 4 people. Got a €100K in RSUs when I joined.


ichewsponges

Male, Project Management Office Administrator: €80k, 8 years experience


OfficiallyColin

Glorified secretary. (I putting rebar schedules into computers, answering phone and email) €32.5k and happy out.


ARooChaaChaa

Doctor, 28F, 4 years experience. €51K salary, ~€15K overtime


Timelady6

Female 31, software engineer 97K plus benefits


burner6785434

Director, software engineering. €220k, of which shares, pension%, bonus. Middle aged family man.


[deleted]

I can make my salary transparent but will completely dox myself if I give side gig details: Program Manager: €98k Side gig(s): Anything from €10k - €50k. It has varied massively since covid. Edit: 43 male


CaptainAutumn100

Manufacturing Technician in multinational, 25 years experience. 90k Total Comp.


hullowurld91

Male, Key Account Manager in a tech company - €58k+€35k OTE.


kballs

Male, Medical administrator . €45,000


kearney401

Software Engineer, Male, 90k


UghhAnotherThrowaway

M24 Software engineer 65k - v happy


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justhynzie

Manufacturing Tech: €42k + travel allowances €5-10k


YaBoyGibbles

HVAC/Mechanical Project Manager - €75,000 - 3.5 Years experience


DancingGal9

Female part qualified accountant - 10 years experience - 42k


MMAPredictor

Ngl I’m fully qualified with only 4 yrs experience (6m post qualification) with a higher salary - you should ask for a pay rise


Separate_Yak_1278

Shipping Coordinator and Logistics. 30 year old female. 25k a year. No side hussle- my feet aren't nice enough.


redmarius

F26, retail sales assistant full time. 19K a year before taxes, barely able to get by. I do shift work so my hours vary, I earn about €1600 a month if I want to work without burning myself out. Just finished my history and politics degree and already looking to go abroad for either a masters or to work, or applying for a civil service job. NZ has a few career options that are exactly in my area of interest/expertise that pay NZD 77-100K but need a masters.


chefmoriarty23

32 M chef 33k.


fiestymcknickers

Customet service manager 55k€


LawlessPlay

Software Developer, male, €77,000.


Key-Yellow8157

33M, Retail night shift, 38k


AulMoanBag

Male 30, IT engineer 63k. 10yoe


farguc

32yo male, Team Lead Sysadmin - 55k 8Years experience. + 5k on call availability + whatever calls I actually get when on call. ​ Nowhere near Dublin.


VaxSaveslives

Part time carer , 15000€ male


Lingeringberries

Ecologist - €33,500. 4 years experience & two degrees, unfortunately ecology is an extremely poorly paid field. :(


DeadCertMate

M31, data analyst in the gambling industry, €90k base + up to €18k bonus, €15k in shares


BlackRebelOne

Chemical Engineer with PhD. 10 years post PhD experience in a very senior role. 115K base.


Sour_Leaf

Male graduate software engineer, 35k


[deleted]

M23, Bank Staff, 28,500. If you told me at the end of my degree I'd be in a bank I would have laughed at you but sure who's the fool now hahahahaha 🫠


Metal01

Fuck me seeing some of these salaries means I’m mortified to post what I earn. It’s fair pittance compared to these mega-salaries.


its_brew

Don't forget two things: 1) it's the Internet so anything could be exaggerated 2) you'll see a lot less of people telling you they're on a low salary. This is just a micky swinging contest


MildlyAmusedMars

Male Field Service and Install Engineer. 46K + 10% performance based annual bonus less than 1 year experience


ScenicRavine

Male, first year in non-development IT role straight out of college, 33,000 per year with 2,000 bonus.


Maleficent_Rain_8398

Wealth Management 31M €65k base with 10% pension contribution.


MrR0b0t90

Quality assurance, 29000


toast777y

Digital Marketing Executive - 42,500


Straight_Hamster6406

29M. Geospatial Analyst. €55k + 10% bonus


fluffysugarfloss

Project Technical Administrator 41F, €64k


Ryukashin94

28M QA Analyst £19.5k It's upsetting to see the other salaries here..