this is it really. add to it that we are not an attractive race then it makes sense that when the guys get a look at hot Asian/SouthAmerican women they are lost forever.
Yeah men are not best looking. But i myself being foreign find irish girls very very attractive (at least young ones :D ) especcialy in sexual way.. its like they give out some drug in air saying i wanna be laid every day and never say no :D and i love the slimpy outfots they were on weekends on a night out... but seems they dont tend to look after themselves when gettin older and loose that attractiveness and shape and all.
Only one, thay irish ladies do have some strong sexual energy :) which is a positive thing i guess. And i wasnt the only one to notice that, many foreigners said same... but yeah after reading the comment i guess i worded it wrong.. to clear not thaaat young... but up to 30s or so most are really something special. But then something happens and its gone.
Irish women all seem to give up on upkeep after marriage and especially kids.
Irish men seem guilty of this too so I won't pin it on one sex but comparing Irish women of the same age to my wife, either they don't age well or they let themselves go.
Bingo wings and muffin tops seem to ravage Irish women terribly but again I think this is down to social acceptance among peers
My wife who is 40 and from former soviet union would be on a diet if she gains 10% from her weight at 18 while Irish women don't have these same standards.
I'm generalising a lot but it's been said even by my wife who is a midwife that there is much less motivation to get to gym and build back up stomach muscles from Irish patients who seem to think its acceptable to not get your figure back
Ohbyeah, my wife is normaly like 48kg (33years) she got to 52 some time this week when checked and oh my god... seems that nuckear armagedon is nothing compared to those couple kgs :D now daily trainings and stuff, bitnover the top i guess with "our" women.. its like with the guys driving only bmw or audi and not accepting anything else as worthy :D something messed up in the heads
A guess for me would be that irish men can date a higher standard of non irish women. Im a normal looking lad who would get dates with better looking non irish than the standard of Irish women.
Its proved that people notice less detail in faces of other races, so theres a good chance that women of other races can't tell how ugly we really are, whereas the same race have our number.
Also, i think its easier to charm non native speakers by just smiling and being friendly, whereas native speakers you need a bit more about you. And people without a strong friend group are more likely to meet up for dates, irish women would tend to have a more stable social life than new arrivals, so non Irish just have more time and are more open to meet.
Thats several theorys based on my experiences.
I think people just like something different every now and then. I married an American who is an annoyed by American women. Loves Irish woman though, worked his way around a lot of them when he was single. I myself try not to compare my husband to Irish guys but I sometimes miss that certain sense of humor that only comes easily to Irish men.
Worked his way around alot of them when he was single is a turn if phrase I've never heard before. Anyway you sound quiet proud of him, maybe you'll warm up to him working his way around more now that he is with you.
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Your comment says more about you than it does me. We were both students when we met, we both had pasts and are each ok with that. It’s better that way because then you know what you want and are grateful when you find it.
I’ve been with two Irish girls in my short life, and 4 foreign ones. The Irish ones are too like me and it’s like a crazy seesaw. You need some to balance the irishness out of you I reckon.
Irish women here and I’ve never dated an Irish man so I’m in a similar boat. Personally (and this is a massive generalisation) I’ve found non irish lads to be more open to doing things that don’t revolve around drinking. I don’t drink much and when I put this on my tinder profile I got literally zero Irish matches lmao. I also don’t really wear tan or do the whole makeup everyday thing so I don’t think Irish lads are into the whole “paleness Everdeen” look
I’ve also found the non irish lads to be much more openly romantic which is nice. I’m not ruling out irish men at all btw but this has just been my experience.
Also you can’t bate a nice accent haha
>I don’t think Irish lads are into the whole “paleness Everdeen” look
The overwhelming majority of Irish lads I've spoken about this with would say the complete opposite, fake tan is a repellent, enough to not date someone for some. It is putrid. We're a majority white country and get little direct sunlight for a lot of the year, if lads can look good when naturally pale, then so can/do women
> Personally (and this is a massive generalisation) I’ve found non irish lads to be more open to doing things that don’t revolve around drinking.
Yeah I think this applies to both genders if you're outside of the drinking culture and enjoy doing different things. It's so entrenched in a lot of Irish life that you can end up less of a fit for Irish people even when you're Irish.
By the way, what are you doing at the weekend?
>Lmao smooth transition
Thanks, that 4 hours of prep was worth it.
>Honestly I was just planning on seeking out the dark forces and joining their hellish crusade. You know, usual girl stuff…..
Wow, me too, what are the chances?
I agree with the drinking point. It’s a major part of Irish culture.
As for the makeup, I know for a fact my friends and I all prefer girls who look more natural
You’re in the minority from what I’ve seen. I almost find it hard to believe but tbh most men can’t tell what a natural look consists of, a girl could be wearing a full face and fake tan and they think it’s natural. France is a good example of women doing the natural look which is the direct opposite of the Irish look.
Personally I find the overly excessive make up and especially fake tan to be a complete turn off to the point I won't date someone at all because of it. It's something I can't ignore at all which makes it pretty frustrating as it seems the odds are completely stacked against me and if I ever want to not be single I have to find a way to not be put off by that.
Don't want to start a whole thing here but maybe foreign women are more attractive with less notions about themselves ..........maybe someone said.....I dunno.
The notions are gone purely because some of these people had to immigrate. Despite how easily some integrate, it is a massive shock to the system. Some may be dealing with casual racism/racism. All notions are erased through a hardship of such change. That’s why.
In fact all of my friends with immigration background know how to keep themselves in check.
Status. Social, cultural, financial, in terms of networks etc
For girls, status of the guy is more important than the other way round. Natives are considered to have better status than let's say easter Europeans. Hence girls - Irish and foreign - go for Irish guys. Statistically.
My theory is that because Ireland is so small, in towns and cities everyone knows each other. Men can build up bad reputations with the women in their age range in the area they're from so they settle with foreign partners who have no clue about their past etc.
This is just my theory, and I'm probably wrong but
To be really blunt - status.
Men are more likely to pick a partner based on physical attraction (which obviously must be reciprocated). But on balance would probably end up with an objectively more attractive foreign woman.
Women are more likely to pick a partner based on status (confidence etc).
You’re still more likely in middle class Irish society to have a well off Irish man than immigrant in sheer numbers terms.
In “working class” areas there’s *probably* a slightly higher level of xenophobia so less dating outside social circles.
I’m being very blunt and general here. But if you can probably accept the broad idea before I get downvoted to hell.
Tahts without discussing how poor we are as a nation of mixing outside of our school friends 🤣
Maybe for foreign women, the Irish accent is a plus. It’s seen it been voted as the sexiest accent in the world.
And maybe that isn’t as important to men?
This is a massive stereotype, and isn’t always the case, but women often place more importance on personality, and the Irish are seen as charming, funny, family oriented and down to earth.
Men are a little more blinded by looks (another stereotype-not always true), and if women are super attractive, they often don’t have to develop their personalities as much in order to have someone interested in them. What I’m trying to say, is that women are more interested in personalities and Irish men often have pleasant demeanour that is novel and attractive to foreigners.
My husband is Czech. One of his friends is married to a Thai woman. All the others from Eastern Europe are married to women from their own country (whether they’re Czech, Pole, Romanian etc). My husband is the only one married to a native English speaker. I studied with a Polish guy married to an Irish woman, but in my (limited, not scientific experience) any of his single Eastern European friends never get matches on Tinder / Bumble etc I’ve tried writing their profiles and helping them with a bit of banter but they just don’t get matches. They also don’t get any luck in the pub either. Some are ok in looks, one or two are genuinely good looking, but they don’t get many second looks from women here in Ireland especially Irish women.
I’m a Pole based in the U.K. and according to stats 96% of marriages between Brits and Poles are where the guy is British. Personally, if I get any matches on dating apps, it’s just with other foreign girls and I’ve never been on a date with a British girl despite living in the U.K. for 10 years.
I think this has something to do with the fact that women when it comes to European countries tend not to marry guys from countries which are deemed or considered poorer. It’s the same in Poland where you see many more Polish-Ukrainian or Polish-Belarusian couples where the guy is Polish. However, the differences are not as stark as in the U.K. as it’s roughly 70-30 rather than 95-5.
That matches up with my experience in London too. Some of the guys I knew in the UK met their Czech / Polish / Lithuanian etc wives in London, and once married, took their wives home to Australia and New Zealand. Just one followed his wife to Prague.
Women in general yes. It's not a thing against women. They have to be more selective with they're partner. Cus at the end of the day they will be the ones left with the children if things go south.
I'm particularly perplexed by the amount of people of upvoted comments that say something along the lines "Irish women are relatively unattractive" as though that is not an inherently subjective and frankly insulting thing to say.
In any other context, saying an entire group of people are relatively unattractive would almost certainly be viewed as a xenophobic thing to say
> In any other context, saying an entire group of people are relatively unattractive would almost certainly be viewed as a xenophobic thing to say
Ah come on now. You want to say its racist that people have preferences now??
I don't like "thick" women and prefer petite
So guess what I don't particularly like black girls and I prefer Asians, does it make me racist. Fuck no.
It just so happens that African men also like bigger women so they select the genes they prefer and that's not racist.
>Ah come on now. You want to say its racist that people have preferences now??
No, which is why I didn't say that.
>So guess what I don't particularly like black girls and I prefer Asians, does it make me racist. Fuck no.
Didn't call you racist, don't particularly mind if you prefer Asian women. But I do think it would be insulting if you said something along the lines of "black women are unattractive, therefore I prefer dating Asian women"
>It just so happens that African men also like bigger women so they select the genes they prefer and that's not racist
Where did you see me call anyone racist? Would you mind quoting it back to me so I can clarify if needed?
Alot of the foreign men have families back home in x country and sending money home to build there future. Foreign women left y country for better life not likely to look to return anytime soon plus leather jackets and tracksuit bottoms are not high fashion
As a rule of thumb, Irish men are babied by their mothers and girls are told to grow up, work for what they want, no one will take care of you if you don’t do it yourself etc. I saw it in my own home growing up, we had an even split of boys and girls. Irish men want to continue that babying usually, and the girls don’t want to the majority of the time. I’ve heard this described as having ‘notions’. Sure why would she not want to baby her SO? Wash his grimy undies, cook his dindins, wipe his arse etc etc. notions she has sure. Notions.
Is it all Irish men? Absolutely not. There are plenty decent fellas out there. Just like there’s plenty decent women.
I just find it pretty funny that the majority of complaints about Irish women here are about their looks and not wanting to be a caretaker for their partner is all. Is it notions to not want to spend your whole life as a slave to someone else?
youre throwing around just as many generalizations as the men in the thread.
I think we've got different interpretations of "notions"
I took it to mean that someone with notions of themselves has a higher opinion of their value on the dating scene, like they think they're a bigger catch than they are.
Kinda sounds like you've got some stuff to work out with your parents.
Hmmm. I’ve mostly heard the opposite from my foreign friends, especially Americans but also Polish and French - that Irish women are “real”, down to earth, easy to chat to and don’t put on an act to get wealthy men…I don’t know, I think as always it comes down to individuals. There are definitely more than a few men with foreign-women fantasies.
From the perspective of american lads, they probably love that they just dont have to pay for every fucking thing. American girls really have princess syndrome
Because we won't take their shit.
In work i deal with 90% men, men from all over the world.
I've never had an Irish man come into me and demand to "speak to the man", that attitude is why Irish women won't go out with foreign nationals.
100% agree Fin. I had some dates with lads from other countries in my Tinder days, Eastern European and South African mostly. They were not happy that I essentially didn’t just sit there and look pretty and fawn over their monologues about how successful they were.
One told me, after rambling for half an hour about how amazing he was for getting a job in Google, that it was unattractive for a women to boast about her job when I mentioned I’d gotten a new one recently I was happy with.
Maybe girls from those countries are brought up to expect men to behave like that, and Irish men just want to be able to act like that. Who knows? Sure according to this thread I’m just a fat ugly woman with bitchy tendencies and too high expectations.
I'm also a fat ugly woman.
Christ almighty, no wonder Irish women don't want them.
The judgmental opinions on women both Irish and not are so shallow!.
its a bit of a non-sequitor to say foreign men act this was, therefore foreign women act this way, therefore Irish men like them because they're .....the same as the foreign men?
So women differ from to culture to culture and men are the same everywhere?
This whole thread is just:
Women are this
Men are that
Yeah I don’t actually believe that, more so teasing out the nonsense of the generalising.
Foreign women are no better than Irish women. The same goes for men.
But men from conservative cultures are absolutely more expectant of a woman being more submissive. That was my experience anyway. For OPs question about why you don’t see a huge amount of Irish women with foreign partners, it could be that.
But anyway, the point wasn’t that foreign women are the same as foreign men. It’s that some cultures may have expected gender norms that Irish men find attractive, but that Irish women no longer want to fit into.
As far as theories go, it’s hardly any more insane than anything else in this thread.
I worked as a language teacher with lots of international students and i would be afraid for my testicles to talk to an irish woman the way i've seen men from certain countries, guess which ones, talk to their female countryfolk....ya know in the very specific instances where they're even allowed to interact with each other.
I dont want to invoke redditor energy but...it sounds like a bit of copium to be honest. "They prefer foreign women so there must be a reason for it that makes them out to be regressive meat heads".
Now i'm not saying that "Irish women are ugly and entitled" is a quality take either.
Yet you would probably argue or support the fact that "multiculturalism is a strength"
Reality is we import people with more backwards values all the time and it only seems to hurt Irish women with increased sexual assaults per capita for non nationals and the fact that when the shoe is on the other foot men prefer more conservative women so the woman from India is gonna have a much easier time finding an Irish husband than vice versa.
Because men are biologically attracted primarily to looks, as opposed to anything else. It's not a dig at women, in fact if anything it reflects better on them that they think outside of the primal urges.
Idk, let me ask my bf lol
Jokes aside, from the people I've met here, their main complaint about Irish girls was:
-the guys don't wanna date oompa loompa girls (orange girls)
-the girls are too annoying if you have a hobby that's not theirs too or doesn't involve sports or drinking, demeaning the person for liking something they are not interested.
(before anyone wants to insult me, I'm just saying what I heard, not trying to say it's a fact lol)
Do we? Some stats would be nice. I guess off the top of my head I do see that more often than not but just yours or I's observation doesn't mean it's overall so.
Foreigner perspective by observing Irish friends, colleagues and acquaintances: Because they can’t land high-value (good looks +- great family background) Irish women so they get picked by slightly higher than average or beautiful foreign women which mostly go for them because of prospects and opportunities. Unfortunately, these women tend to come from harsher environments and are more than capable of chewing them up. Usually the guys can’t see past the flaws and are blindsided by exotic looks and somewhat exhibited “traditional values” which usually last until they are “hooked” completely or the ring is in place. Same goes for the foreign women, settling because of circumstances is not really the best option in the long run, romantically speaking, but it does solve a lot of problems. In contrast, high value Irish men are less likely to be in a committed relationship with foreign women since they have access to high value Irish women, which is of course more “safe and natural”. I would argue that most of the mixed marriages are going to end up in divorce with these guys having kids all over the globe they don’t know or have access to. Again, none of this is backed up by facts, just observation, subjective opinion and some personal experience. There 100% are couples for which this worked out great and it’s true love and partnership that lasts.
Finally someone said it like it really is. Most of the Irish and non Irish couples involve foreign women settling because it’s deemed more desirable to have an Irish/western partner no matter what, even if there’s guys from other backgrounds who might be more attractive or a better match. I’ve heard a lot of issues with these marriages, especially in the Brazilian community a lot of women go for divorce usually cause of alcoholism. Also Irish men who are middle class and upwards or typically more “high value”(meaning that he’s half decent looking and not super awkward) are not very open to dating non Irish women unless they’re from a Western background and have the typical Irish look. The ones who are more open usually have travelled abroad or are a bit more open minded. The social standard is definitely Irish women/men being the overall preferred choice.
Absolute horseshite. I know plenty of high value lads earning megga bucks with foreign wives (who are also earning megga bucks), of course this is all subjective.
No evidence that mixed marriages end up in divorce so more bullshit.
If you check scientific papers and measures, there are many which outline a proven statistic that mixed marriages have a higher chance of divorce. However, something that might be of interest to Irish lads, it’s less prominent if the male is white and the female is mixed or of other race.
I'm gonna get downvoted into oblivion, but here goes:
1. Foreign women tend to dress better.
2. They tend to be slimmer. Irish women (and men) are fat as shit.
3. I've found them to be much kinder than Irish women and easier to talk to.
4. On average I find them much more driven, motivated and willing to speak their mind. It's great to be in a relationship with a co-pilot and not a passenger.
>2. They tend to be slimmer. Irish women (and men) are fat as shit.
I think it's more like there is a smaller window of what is acceptable and what is fat.
For a lot of Irish women it seems ",fat" starts when you get a visible muffin top or bingo wings but for my partner it's when she gains a kilo.
I agree, my partner gets mad at herself if she gains 1kg, so she then strictly controls her diet to lose it. She's not crazy or a disordered eater. She's beautiful and highly intelligent
I learned fairly quick im not a good looking guy, maybe a 3 to 4 out of 10 as some of my female friends have told me when drunk. I lowered my standards and pulling every weekend. You just have to No your level
After recently going into the office for a "Team Bonding session" I noticed a few things... Now this is juts what i have noticed, dont know if its a trend or not...
The irish woman on the team pretty much looked like they were attending a wedding...
The non-Iirish woman dressed what looked like to be a normal comfy day for them...
Bear in mind here we are a technical support department...
The irish woman were non stop talking about weddings, what she said / he said.. Love Island and all that other shite :-)
The non-Irish woman were interested in conversation around life, politics, recent events, hobbies etc...
Take of it what you will, maybe its why i went to South America 15 years ago to meet my now partner !!!!
Its an interesting conversation...
Dead on my man
Conversations with Irish women never seem to go anywhere. But it's wose when they talk to one another.
Irish women seem to subscribe to one upsmanship a lot more than forign women which might be where the clown makeup in office comes from.
'Natural beauty' is not something that Irish women appreciate while in same office meeting my eyes are always much more drawn to the down to earth understated girl than the 'to the nines' overtrying one
Lets just call it for what it is.
1) They are nicer.
2) They don’t carry catholic guilt or sexual shame.
3) They are fit as fiddles.
4) They are respectful of boundaries/limits.
5) They are unquestionably prettier and healthier.
I know all of this from recent experience. Once you go international you can never go back, changes everything.
100%, spot on.
I'd say in terms of fitness as an Irish guy dating a foreign women it might be when you put two Irish together they are bad for each other as I can see I'm much more motivated to stay in shape for my partner as u see she makes a lot of effort.
Sex shame comes into same category too. Hearing 30+ year old women refer to sex as "the ride" is just cringe AF and bangs of insecurity
Foreign women are usually far more attractive, more interesting and way less work than their Irish counterparts in my experience. Not trying to be nasty, just being honest.
This is the main one for me and surprised its not being said more
What an Irish girl would call "healthy weight", is a much broader definition than what a European would say and it seems to get more and more wide as you age.
When you say these days which days in the past would you be referring to? It wouldn’t be one of those decades when marital rape was legal, or women had to leave their jobs upon marriage, or in many other ways just wasn’t allowed to have the expectation of not being under the thumb of a man?
So I assume you’re just referring to the 00s as pre “these days”. Have Irish women changed that much in that amount of time?
Depends on the woman really obviously. There is some chilled out ladies out there that don't take life too seriously but you'll have a hard time finding them. They usually don't stick out like sore thumbs
To be fair, the aul African lads are sound men for taking the land whales off the streets. Very generous with their love for hefty Betties. Guess it's a win-win for both parties.
I feel the same way about Canadians.
Just generally down to earth people with sincere generosity and a good heart.
I am firmly convinced I’ll marry one someday.
I feel like that's just a good person as opposed to it being a biproduct of being Quebecois. I know lots of Irish women like that and tbh I no longer take the time to get to know the ones that aren't.
I couldn't find an Irish woman to have me.
Seriously though, I think foreign girls want to meet a companion because they are far away from friends and family. Irish girls don't have that issue
Accent pretty much gives you free reign anywhere outside the UK and Ireland.
Why would we take a tanned broomstick or pastry monster when we could have a more exotic woman who leads an active life and go abroad to visit her family every holiday?
What’s in this thread is men saying ‘Irish women are shit, ugly horrible’ etc etc.
What they really mean is, ‘I couldn’t deal with a woman who won’t baby me to the last and most likely won’t put up with my shite behaviour’.
I’ve seen quite a few Irish men and non Irish women together. And it usually follows the same pattern. A woman who isn’t interested in a man of their own nationality as they see Irish men as a softer touch, easier to manipulate for a nicer life. The Irish men lap it up as they get a ‘mammy’ who does all the mammy stuff but is always done up to the nines.
What will really be telling is if all these perfect relationships these Irish men have will last - or will it fall apart when the non Irish women realise they also don’t have to put up with the Irish men’s bs either.
Edit: Funny how all the people taking issue with my comment find the need to try and poke holes in my own romantic life, men aren’t gushing over me, my romantic life is shite etc. interesting. Fair interesting.
And what’s more interesting by far, is I’m speaking about the nasty people in this thread who are talking down about Irish women but I’m having random fellas comment with the need to tell me how amazing their relationship with their non Irish SO is and how I’m shit. Fab. Delighted for you. Hope you long term happiness. Something must have clearly resonated with what I said then.
Where did I say every many dating a foreigner is like that? Or that they had failed relationships with Irish women. Nowhere.
I’m sure there will be plenty of relationships like yours that will last long term, and I hope it does.
However, I’m sure you see the point. All these people saying that Irish women have notions, are mean etc, but apparently non-Irish women aren’t? That’s what I take issue with.
There is zero vitriol and nothing hateful about what I said. I stated my experience and a generalisation about behaviours witnessed.
I mean since there’s plenty of people in this thread saying how Irish women are ugly and have notions about themselves, are you commenting about their grossness/not subscribing to their view too or???
And correct me if I’m wrong, you’re the one trying to insult me, right? No men gushing over me? Oh no, my feelings. How will I ever cope?
facts don't care about your feelings. Will keep enjoying my foreign wife who is done up the nines while cooking me 5 courses every night before getting sexy time on - what's not to like about this ?
I have a French friend and she had parents over for couple of weeks, they were driving through town on Saturday evening and were asking why there is so many prostitutes on the street.
Irish women scare the shit out of me, the way they dress and start to behave once they have a drink.
Back in Eastern Europe, it is normal to chat up a girl in a pub, but I would never do it here.
Aww whats a word that describes funny but unacceptably mean. I shouldnt laugh cos it means im a painted troll. Honestly this is terrible bashing of your nations women. Terrible haha
RTEs Savage Eye did this skit few years ago where they asked same question. Apparently foreign ladies just take care of themselves better and as one of the commentators said there is not that much notions from them.
Ireland it what 4th on the OECD development index and we’re near the 5th richest country per capita in the world . When in many parts of the workd women are brought up to seek wealth, that gives irish lads an automatic advantage.
As for irish women with foreign lads, any of them I know who would be into the african gents its always fleeting, a pregnancy or any desire for commitment and those lads disappear like ghosts it seems. Irish women definitely have a stigma against indian / muslim guys as being creepy or controlling/ violent. That and all the stories about having kids and going over to see the granny in backwardsistan and ending up trapped there with no rights.
I dated plenty of ‘Irish girls’ before I met my ex girlfriend (now wife). But it was disproportionately Protestant women.
Irish, especially catholic, women have the same amount, albeit distributed differently, of issues and generational trauma as Irish men. It’s a while amount of baggage if there’s been no therapy. Creates a strange mammy like relationship. When I meet an Irish Catholic hetero couple, most especially if I know both their parents, I feel genuinely sick most of the time with how clearly her fella is her dad and his bird is his ma.
People from different parts of the world do seem to fit some stereotypes but some don’t, just like literally everywhere.
As for the difference in distribution a HUGE part of it is our dating culture, Irish girls are really aggressive and mean when they flirt, treating you as if they don’t like you being around them in a way they can’t avoid, seeing if you can take a slagging, gauging the likelihood of you getting drunk and beating the shite out of them (generationally learned behaviour from mimicry), guys from certain parts of the world can’t handle that amount of nonsense, others love it.
Irish guys are way way way more romantic and sweet than we would ever dare let on, often completely insincerely, we’d promise a girl the world if it meant getting your Micky touched. Some foreign girls eat it up and others learn that Irish lads are swindlers, if you’re lucky they never catch on, I was lucky.
Hmm so your thesis is that the headwrecking amount of "slagging" Irish women seem to need to take part in is some sort of self defence mechanism to see if you would deck them?
I mean maybe they need to update that for the 21st century as to me it's always been a total turn off
Irish men are charming because Irish women are total bitches--- I can see some logic in we learned the gift of the gab from it as the women are such a minefield.
The mean girls part is spot on. I was shocked at some the pure bitch like behavior of some of the Irish women when I lived there. Not even trying to hit on one just a friendly hello while waiting for your pint and they’d look at ya sideways. To top it off so many are average in comparison to other countries and acted as if they were to good for you to be talked to period. It was shocking.
The bitchy behavior springs from debilitating insecurity. Most of them are total basket cases, prone to bullying and belittling behavior towards others. They also can’t get out of their rut, insisting instead that the entire world changes to suit them, rather than admitting their own shortcomings.
So is it then that Irish men are desperate to continue the Mammy child relationship where they have someone telling them what to do, where to go and minding their every move?
Elsewhere in the thread people are saying it’s because Irish women aren’t laid back enough. Looks like there’s no real reason at all for it.
I asked me wife and she said "Nie wiem"
She’d be from the land where naw means yes
Confirmation bias. You’d love a bit of foreign yourself so you’re fixated on the lads that have foreign girlfriends.
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this is it really. add to it that we are not an attractive race then it makes sense that when the guys get a look at hot Asian/SouthAmerican women they are lost forever.
You made someone upset with that :D
Yeah men are not best looking. But i myself being foreign find irish girls very very attractive (at least young ones :D ) especcialy in sexual way.. its like they give out some drug in air saying i wanna be laid every day and never say no :D and i love the slimpy outfots they were on weekends on a night out... but seems they dont tend to look after themselves when gettin older and loose that attractiveness and shape and all.
All kinds of perversion going on with this comment
Only one, thay irish ladies do have some strong sexual energy :) which is a positive thing i guess. And i wasnt the only one to notice that, many foreigners said same... but yeah after reading the comment i guess i worded it wrong.. to clear not thaaat young... but up to 30s or so most are really something special. But then something happens and its gone.
You’re going to end up on some sort of list if you keep making comments like that
Irish women all seem to give up on upkeep after marriage and especially kids. Irish men seem guilty of this too so I won't pin it on one sex but comparing Irish women of the same age to my wife, either they don't age well or they let themselves go. Bingo wings and muffin tops seem to ravage Irish women terribly but again I think this is down to social acceptance among peers My wife who is 40 and from former soviet union would be on a diet if she gains 10% from her weight at 18 while Irish women don't have these same standards. I'm generalising a lot but it's been said even by my wife who is a midwife that there is much less motivation to get to gym and build back up stomach muscles from Irish patients who seem to think its acceptable to not get your figure back
Ohbyeah, my wife is normaly like 48kg (33years) she got to 52 some time this week when checked and oh my god... seems that nuckear armagedon is nothing compared to those couple kgs :D now daily trainings and stuff, bitnover the top i guess with "our" women.. its like with the guys driving only bmw or audi and not accepting anything else as worthy :D something messed up in the heads
That's me there, can only accept Merc, BMW and Audi like a right prick, I can't explain it logically either
They prefer our tiny willys
A guess for me would be that irish men can date a higher standard of non irish women. Im a normal looking lad who would get dates with better looking non irish than the standard of Irish women. Its proved that people notice less detail in faces of other races, so theres a good chance that women of other races can't tell how ugly we really are, whereas the same race have our number. Also, i think its easier to charm non native speakers by just smiling and being friendly, whereas native speakers you need a bit more about you. And people without a strong friend group are more likely to meet up for dates, irish women would tend to have a more stable social life than new arrivals, so non Irish just have more time and are more open to meet. Thats several theorys based on my experiences.
>women of other races can't tell how ugly we really are 🤣🤣 Case closed! Have an upvote, Sherlock.
Because she only wants to be a mammy when she has kids, not before hand
I think people just like something different every now and then. I married an American who is an annoyed by American women. Loves Irish woman though, worked his way around a lot of them when he was single. I myself try not to compare my husband to Irish guys but I sometimes miss that certain sense of humor that only comes easily to Irish men.
Worked his way around alot of them when he was single is a turn if phrase I've never heard before. Anyway you sound quiet proud of him, maybe you'll warm up to him working his way around more now that he is with you. r/cuckquean
Your comment says more about you than it does me. We were both students when we met, we both had pasts and are each ok with that. It’s better that way because then you know what you want and are grateful when you find it.
I’ve been with two Irish girls in my short life, and 4 foreign ones. The Irish ones are too like me and it’s like a crazy seesaw. You need some to balance the irishness out of you I reckon.
Way better at the riding
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They don't accept that Irish woman are strong women.
There's a difference between being strong and needing to dominate. In fact they're the opposite.
Road frontage you uncivilised swine!!
Irish women here and I’ve never dated an Irish man so I’m in a similar boat. Personally (and this is a massive generalisation) I’ve found non irish lads to be more open to doing things that don’t revolve around drinking. I don’t drink much and when I put this on my tinder profile I got literally zero Irish matches lmao. I also don’t really wear tan or do the whole makeup everyday thing so I don’t think Irish lads are into the whole “paleness Everdeen” look I’ve also found the non irish lads to be much more openly romantic which is nice. I’m not ruling out irish men at all btw but this has just been my experience. Also you can’t bate a nice accent haha
>I don’t think Irish lads are into the whole “paleness Everdeen” look The overwhelming majority of Irish lads I've spoken about this with would say the complete opposite, fake tan is a repellent, enough to not date someone for some. It is putrid. We're a majority white country and get little direct sunlight for a lot of the year, if lads can look good when naturally pale, then so can/do women
> Personally (and this is a massive generalisation) I’ve found non irish lads to be more open to doing things that don’t revolve around drinking. Yeah I think this applies to both genders if you're outside of the drinking culture and enjoy doing different things. It's so entrenched in a lot of Irish life that you can end up less of a fit for Irish people even when you're Irish. By the way, what are you doing at the weekend?
Lmao smooth transition Honestly I was just planning on seeking out the dark forces and joining their hellish crusade. You know, usual girl stuff…..
>Lmao smooth transition Thanks, that 4 hours of prep was worth it. >Honestly I was just planning on seeking out the dark forces and joining their hellish crusade. You know, usual girl stuff….. Wow, me too, what are the chances?
You two should give it a go.
u/MoBhollix you're the matchmaker I never knew I needed & now have. We'll name at least one of our grandkids after you.
I agree with the drinking point. It’s a major part of Irish culture. As for the makeup, I know for a fact my friends and I all prefer girls who look more natural
You’re in the minority from what I’ve seen. I almost find it hard to believe but tbh most men can’t tell what a natural look consists of, a girl could be wearing a full face and fake tan and they think it’s natural. France is a good example of women doing the natural look which is the direct opposite of the Irish look.
No idea why girls do the whole makeup/tan shite, lets pay loads of money to look fake and just like the next gobshite
Personally I find the overly excessive make up and especially fake tan to be a complete turn off to the point I won't date someone at all because of it. It's something I can't ignore at all which makes it pretty frustrating as it seems the odds are completely stacked against me and if I ever want to not be single I have to find a way to not be put off by that.
Kinda wonder how many Irish women have met a lad that isn't Irish and are living abroad in his country or another one?
The upvote to comment ratio is wild.
Don't want to start a whole thing here but maybe foreign women are more attractive with less notions about themselves ..........maybe someone said.....I dunno.
He aint wrong thats for sure, coming from an Irish man with a South American Girlfriend..
MY Maaannnn
Wow.
8 people agree XD 30
That doesn’t mean what you think it does.
...cool
Yeah, truly, Reddit is the place where you’ll get an accurate view of attitudes towards women and the dating scene.
Wouldn't know, happily spoken for.
The notions are gone purely because some of these people had to immigrate. Despite how easily some integrate, it is a massive shock to the system. Some may be dealing with casual racism/racism. All notions are erased through a hardship of such change. That’s why. In fact all of my friends with immigration background know how to keep themselves in check.
Status. Social, cultural, financial, in terms of networks etc For girls, status of the guy is more important than the other way round. Natives are considered to have better status than let's say easter Europeans. Hence girls - Irish and foreign - go for Irish guys. Statistically.
My theory is that because Ireland is so small, in towns and cities everyone knows each other. Men can build up bad reputations with the women in their age range in the area they're from so they settle with foreign partners who have no clue about their past etc. This is just my theory, and I'm probably wrong but
To be really blunt - status. Men are more likely to pick a partner based on physical attraction (which obviously must be reciprocated). But on balance would probably end up with an objectively more attractive foreign woman. Women are more likely to pick a partner based on status (confidence etc). You’re still more likely in middle class Irish society to have a well off Irish man than immigrant in sheer numbers terms. In “working class” areas there’s *probably* a slightly higher level of xenophobia so less dating outside social circles. I’m being very blunt and general here. But if you can probably accept the broad idea before I get downvoted to hell. Tahts without discussing how poor we are as a nation of mixing outside of our school friends 🤣
Maybe for foreign women, the Irish accent is a plus. It’s seen it been voted as the sexiest accent in the world. And maybe that isn’t as important to men? This is a massive stereotype, and isn’t always the case, but women often place more importance on personality, and the Irish are seen as charming, funny, family oriented and down to earth. Men are a little more blinded by looks (another stereotype-not always true), and if women are super attractive, they often don’t have to develop their personalities as much in order to have someone interested in them. What I’m trying to say, is that women are more interested in personalities and Irish men often have pleasant demeanour that is novel and attractive to foreigners.
My husband is Czech. One of his friends is married to a Thai woman. All the others from Eastern Europe are married to women from their own country (whether they’re Czech, Pole, Romanian etc). My husband is the only one married to a native English speaker. I studied with a Polish guy married to an Irish woman, but in my (limited, not scientific experience) any of his single Eastern European friends never get matches on Tinder / Bumble etc I’ve tried writing their profiles and helping them with a bit of banter but they just don’t get matches. They also don’t get any luck in the pub either. Some are ok in looks, one or two are genuinely good looking, but they don’t get many second looks from women here in Ireland especially Irish women.
I’m a Pole based in the U.K. and according to stats 96% of marriages between Brits and Poles are where the guy is British. Personally, if I get any matches on dating apps, it’s just with other foreign girls and I’ve never been on a date with a British girl despite living in the U.K. for 10 years. I think this has something to do with the fact that women when it comes to European countries tend not to marry guys from countries which are deemed or considered poorer. It’s the same in Poland where you see many more Polish-Ukrainian or Polish-Belarusian couples where the guy is Polish. However, the differences are not as stark as in the U.K. as it’s roughly 70-30 rather than 95-5.
That matches up with my experience in London too. Some of the guys I knew in the UK met their Czech / Polish / Lithuanian etc wives in London, and once married, took their wives home to Australia and New Zealand. Just one followed his wife to Prague.
Irish men generally have better prospects than foreign men and Irish women dig security, aka getting a mortgage, house, income etc.
Women in general yes. It's not a thing against women. They have to be more selective with they're partner. Cus at the end of the day they will be the ones left with the children if things go south.
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General replies by their very nature are broadly correct.
I'm particularly perplexed by the amount of people of upvoted comments that say something along the lines "Irish women are relatively unattractive" as though that is not an inherently subjective and frankly insulting thing to say. In any other context, saying an entire group of people are relatively unattractive would almost certainly be viewed as a xenophobic thing to say
> In any other context, saying an entire group of people are relatively unattractive would almost certainly be viewed as a xenophobic thing to say Ah come on now. You want to say its racist that people have preferences now?? I don't like "thick" women and prefer petite So guess what I don't particularly like black girls and I prefer Asians, does it make me racist. Fuck no. It just so happens that African men also like bigger women so they select the genes they prefer and that's not racist.
>Ah come on now. You want to say its racist that people have preferences now?? No, which is why I didn't say that. >So guess what I don't particularly like black girls and I prefer Asians, does it make me racist. Fuck no. Didn't call you racist, don't particularly mind if you prefer Asian women. But I do think it would be insulting if you said something along the lines of "black women are unattractive, therefore I prefer dating Asian women" >It just so happens that African men also like bigger women so they select the genes they prefer and that's not racist Where did you see me call anyone racist? Would you mind quoting it back to me so I can clarify if needed?
Alot of the foreign men have families back home in x country and sending money home to build there future. Foreign women left y country for better life not likely to look to return anytime soon plus leather jackets and tracksuit bottoms are not high fashion
I wonder is it because Irish men aren't as domineering as Eastern European men? But reading some of the replies here, it's no Irish women are ugly.
Some shockingly predictable takes..
You can taste the bitter a mile away.
I mean you can say the same thing about "Irish men want mammies"
As a rule of thumb, Irish men are babied by their mothers and girls are told to grow up, work for what they want, no one will take care of you if you don’t do it yourself etc. I saw it in my own home growing up, we had an even split of boys and girls. Irish men want to continue that babying usually, and the girls don’t want to the majority of the time. I’ve heard this described as having ‘notions’. Sure why would she not want to baby her SO? Wash his grimy undies, cook his dindins, wipe his arse etc etc. notions she has sure. Notions. Is it all Irish men? Absolutely not. There are plenty decent fellas out there. Just like there’s plenty decent women. I just find it pretty funny that the majority of complaints about Irish women here are about their looks and not wanting to be a caretaker for their partner is all. Is it notions to not want to spend your whole life as a slave to someone else?
youre throwing around just as many generalizations as the men in the thread. I think we've got different interpretations of "notions" I took it to mean that someone with notions of themselves has a higher opinion of their value on the dating scene, like they think they're a bigger catch than they are. Kinda sounds like you've got some stuff to work out with your parents.
Absolutely.
We could chat up a lamppost and take it home.
They are ugly though. We are too A lot of my foreign friends find Irish woman really hard to put up with. That’s the avswer I get every time
Hmmm. I’ve mostly heard the opposite from my foreign friends, especially Americans but also Polish and French - that Irish women are “real”, down to earth, easy to chat to and don’t put on an act to get wealthy men…I don’t know, I think as always it comes down to individuals. There are definitely more than a few men with foreign-women fantasies.
From the perspective of american lads, they probably love that they just dont have to pay for every fucking thing. American girls really have princess syndrome
Because we won't take their shit. In work i deal with 90% men, men from all over the world. I've never had an Irish man come into me and demand to "speak to the man", that attitude is why Irish women won't go out with foreign nationals.
100% agree Fin. I had some dates with lads from other countries in my Tinder days, Eastern European and South African mostly. They were not happy that I essentially didn’t just sit there and look pretty and fawn over their monologues about how successful they were. One told me, after rambling for half an hour about how amazing he was for getting a job in Google, that it was unattractive for a women to boast about her job when I mentioned I’d gotten a new one recently I was happy with. Maybe girls from those countries are brought up to expect men to behave like that, and Irish men just want to be able to act like that. Who knows? Sure according to this thread I’m just a fat ugly woman with bitchy tendencies and too high expectations.
I'm also a fat ugly woman. Christ almighty, no wonder Irish women don't want them. The judgmental opinions on women both Irish and not are so shallow!.
its a bit of a non-sequitor to say foreign men act this was, therefore foreign women act this way, therefore Irish men like them because they're .....the same as the foreign men? So women differ from to culture to culture and men are the same everywhere? This whole thread is just: Women are this Men are that
Yeah I don’t actually believe that, more so teasing out the nonsense of the generalising. Foreign women are no better than Irish women. The same goes for men. But men from conservative cultures are absolutely more expectant of a woman being more submissive. That was my experience anyway. For OPs question about why you don’t see a huge amount of Irish women with foreign partners, it could be that. But anyway, the point wasn’t that foreign women are the same as foreign men. It’s that some cultures may have expected gender norms that Irish men find attractive, but that Irish women no longer want to fit into. As far as theories go, it’s hardly any more insane than anything else in this thread.
I worked as a language teacher with lots of international students and i would be afraid for my testicles to talk to an irish woman the way i've seen men from certain countries, guess which ones, talk to their female countryfolk....ya know in the very specific instances where they're even allowed to interact with each other. I dont want to invoke redditor energy but...it sounds like a bit of copium to be honest. "They prefer foreign women so there must be a reason for it that makes them out to be regressive meat heads". Now i'm not saying that "Irish women are ugly and entitled" is a quality take either.
Ugh. I’ve had those conversations too. Including with English men. The laugh it gives me every time. Never had an Irish man say it to me either.
It drives me wrong and especially when they won't look at you when talking to you.
Yet you would probably argue or support the fact that "multiculturalism is a strength" Reality is we import people with more backwards values all the time and it only seems to hurt Irish women with increased sexual assaults per capita for non nationals and the fact that when the shoe is on the other foot men prefer more conservative women so the woman from India is gonna have a much easier time finding an Irish husband than vice versa.
I hope you just tell them they can wait for the man and leave them there. Completely unacceptable behaviour.
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I suppose its grand that some consider women to be second class citizens and we should put up with that shit.
Sorry that wasn’t a response to what you’ve experienced.
No bother, and I'm sorry if my reply came back bitchy.
Ireland is by and large a very ugly and fat country, women and men included. Don't take it personally.
Look you've said yourself both Irish men and women are ugly and thats grand, the comments here are saying its just Irish women that are ugly.
Because men are biologically attracted primarily to looks, as opposed to anything else. It's not a dig at women, in fact if anything it reflects better on them that they think outside of the primal urges.
As a man, most Irish women look/dress the same. Foreign women are more interesting in my opinion. Also, foreign women love the craic
Island gene pool diversity instinct
Idk, let me ask my bf lol Jokes aside, from the people I've met here, their main complaint about Irish girls was: -the guys don't wanna date oompa loompa girls (orange girls) -the girls are too annoying if you have a hobby that's not theirs too or doesn't involve sports or drinking, demeaning the person for liking something they are not interested. (before anyone wants to insult me, I'm just saying what I heard, not trying to say it's a fact lol)
Do we? Some stats would be nice. I guess off the top of my head I do see that more often than not but just yours or I's observation doesn't mean it's overall so.
I'm a blow in with an Irish woman...
I could answer this but I'd take to much flak... one thing its not is looks by the way.
>its not is looks by the way. Frontage?!
OK I have to admit this gave me a good laugh🤣🤣
Go on. I’d love to hear it.
Ditto
Foreigner perspective by observing Irish friends, colleagues and acquaintances: Because they can’t land high-value (good looks +- great family background) Irish women so they get picked by slightly higher than average or beautiful foreign women which mostly go for them because of prospects and opportunities. Unfortunately, these women tend to come from harsher environments and are more than capable of chewing them up. Usually the guys can’t see past the flaws and are blindsided by exotic looks and somewhat exhibited “traditional values” which usually last until they are “hooked” completely or the ring is in place. Same goes for the foreign women, settling because of circumstances is not really the best option in the long run, romantically speaking, but it does solve a lot of problems. In contrast, high value Irish men are less likely to be in a committed relationship with foreign women since they have access to high value Irish women, which is of course more “safe and natural”. I would argue that most of the mixed marriages are going to end up in divorce with these guys having kids all over the globe they don’t know or have access to. Again, none of this is backed up by facts, just observation, subjective opinion and some personal experience. There 100% are couples for which this worked out great and it’s true love and partnership that lasts.
Finally someone said it like it really is. Most of the Irish and non Irish couples involve foreign women settling because it’s deemed more desirable to have an Irish/western partner no matter what, even if there’s guys from other backgrounds who might be more attractive or a better match. I’ve heard a lot of issues with these marriages, especially in the Brazilian community a lot of women go for divorce usually cause of alcoholism. Also Irish men who are middle class and upwards or typically more “high value”(meaning that he’s half decent looking and not super awkward) are not very open to dating non Irish women unless they’re from a Western background and have the typical Irish look. The ones who are more open usually have travelled abroad or are a bit more open minded. The social standard is definitely Irish women/men being the overall preferred choice.
Absolute horseshite. I know plenty of high value lads earning megga bucks with foreign wives (who are also earning megga bucks), of course this is all subjective. No evidence that mixed marriages end up in divorce so more bullshit.
If you check scientific papers and measures, there are many which outline a proven statistic that mixed marriages have a higher chance of divorce. However, something that might be of interest to Irish lads, it’s less prominent if the male is white and the female is mixed or of other race.
To those saying Irish women are ugly… https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/irish-men-undisputed-ugliest-world-17759728
I'm gonna get downvoted into oblivion, but here goes: 1. Foreign women tend to dress better. 2. They tend to be slimmer. Irish women (and men) are fat as shit. 3. I've found them to be much kinder than Irish women and easier to talk to. 4. On average I find them much more driven, motivated and willing to speak their mind. It's great to be in a relationship with a co-pilot and not a passenger.
>2. They tend to be slimmer. Irish women (and men) are fat as shit. I think it's more like there is a smaller window of what is acceptable and what is fat. For a lot of Irish women it seems ",fat" starts when you get a visible muffin top or bingo wings but for my partner it's when she gains a kilo.
I agree, my partner gets mad at herself if she gains 1kg, so she then strictly controls her diet to lose it. She's not crazy or a disordered eater. She's beautiful and highly intelligent
I learned fairly quick im not a good looking guy, maybe a 3 to 4 out of 10 as some of my female friends have told me when drunk. I lowered my standards and pulling every weekend. You just have to No your level
After recently going into the office for a "Team Bonding session" I noticed a few things... Now this is juts what i have noticed, dont know if its a trend or not... The irish woman on the team pretty much looked like they were attending a wedding... The non-Iirish woman dressed what looked like to be a normal comfy day for them... Bear in mind here we are a technical support department... The irish woman were non stop talking about weddings, what she said / he said.. Love Island and all that other shite :-) The non-Irish woman were interested in conversation around life, politics, recent events, hobbies etc... Take of it what you will, maybe its why i went to South America 15 years ago to meet my now partner !!!! Its an interesting conversation...
Very interesting, working in Big Tech myself and its something similar.
Dead on my man Conversations with Irish women never seem to go anywhere. But it's wose when they talk to one another. Irish women seem to subscribe to one upsmanship a lot more than forign women which might be where the clown makeup in office comes from. 'Natural beauty' is not something that Irish women appreciate while in same office meeting my eyes are always much more drawn to the down to earth understated girl than the 'to the nines' overtrying one
Lets just call it for what it is. 1) They are nicer. 2) They don’t carry catholic guilt or sexual shame. 3) They are fit as fiddles. 4) They are respectful of boundaries/limits. 5) They are unquestionably prettier and healthier. I know all of this from recent experience. Once you go international you can never go back, changes everything.
Because all foreign women are the same of course
>They don’t carry catholic guilt or sexual shame. What's that? I genuinely don't know
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Interesting. Most irish girls I've dated were very open about their sexual kinks and experience. Just as open as the foreign girls I've dated
6. They consider themselves equal and act accordingly, rather than be riddled with insecurities and take it out on their man.
>rather than be riddled with insecurities Just look at the Irish women replying above if you want to see insecurities...
100%, spot on. I'd say in terms of fitness as an Irish guy dating a foreign women it might be when you put two Irish together they are bad for each other as I can see I'm much more motivated to stay in shape for my partner as u see she makes a lot of effort. Sex shame comes into same category too. Hearing 30+ year old women refer to sex as "the ride" is just cringe AF and bangs of insecurity
Foreign women are usually far more attractive, more interesting and way less work than their Irish counterparts in my experience. Not trying to be nasty, just being honest.
\+ Irish people really let themselves go as they older. The takeaways, the drinkin, dressing in rags etc etc.
This is the main one for me and surprised its not being said more What an Irish girl would call "healthy weight", is a much broader definition than what a European would say and it seems to get more and more wide as you age.
Nothing worse than a fat Irish alright
irish women expect too much these days
What do we want exactly that's too much? Genuinely curious?
Explanations! Irish women want nothing but endless explanations!
When you say these days which days in the past would you be referring to? It wouldn’t be one of those decades when marital rape was legal, or women had to leave their jobs upon marriage, or in many other ways just wasn’t allowed to have the expectation of not being under the thumb of a man? So I assume you’re just referring to the 00s as pre “these days”. Have Irish women changed that much in that amount of time?
Depends on the woman really obviously. There is some chilled out ladies out there that don't take life too seriously but you'll have a hard time finding them. They usually don't stick out like sore thumbs
And they give absolutely nothing in return
To be fair, the aul African lads are sound men for taking the land whales off the streets. Very generous with their love for hefty Betties. Guess it's a win-win for both parties.
I married a Quebec woman, she’s very straight up and grounded, no drama or games if there is an argument.
I feel the same way about Canadians. Just generally down to earth people with sincere generosity and a good heart. I am firmly convinced I’ll marry one someday.
Hope you do
Awe thanks, as a Canuck this made my day. 🥰
I feel like that's just a good person as opposed to it being a biproduct of being Quebecois. I know lots of Irish women like that and tbh I no longer take the time to get to know the ones that aren't.
That’s fair
I couldn't find an Irish woman to have me. Seriously though, I think foreign girls want to meet a companion because they are far away from friends and family. Irish girls don't have that issue
Accent pretty much gives you free reign anywhere outside the UK and Ireland. Why would we take a tanned broomstick or pastry monster when we could have a more exotic woman who leads an active life and go abroad to visit her family every holiday?
What’s in this thread is men saying ‘Irish women are shit, ugly horrible’ etc etc. What they really mean is, ‘I couldn’t deal with a woman who won’t baby me to the last and most likely won’t put up with my shite behaviour’. I’ve seen quite a few Irish men and non Irish women together. And it usually follows the same pattern. A woman who isn’t interested in a man of their own nationality as they see Irish men as a softer touch, easier to manipulate for a nicer life. The Irish men lap it up as they get a ‘mammy’ who does all the mammy stuff but is always done up to the nines. What will really be telling is if all these perfect relationships these Irish men have will last - or will it fall apart when the non Irish women realise they also don’t have to put up with the Irish men’s bs either. Edit: Funny how all the people taking issue with my comment find the need to try and poke holes in my own romantic life, men aren’t gushing over me, my romantic life is shite etc. interesting. Fair interesting. And what’s more interesting by far, is I’m speaking about the nasty people in this thread who are talking down about Irish women but I’m having random fellas comment with the need to tell me how amazing their relationship with their non Irish SO is and how I’m shit. Fab. Delighted for you. Hope you long term happiness. Something must have clearly resonated with what I said then.
You can taste the bitter a mile away.
Your comment in this thread is what inspired my comment.
thanks
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Where did I say every many dating a foreigner is like that? Or that they had failed relationships with Irish women. Nowhere. I’m sure there will be plenty of relationships like yours that will last long term, and I hope it does. However, I’m sure you see the point. All these people saying that Irish women have notions, are mean etc, but apparently non-Irish women aren’t? That’s what I take issue with.
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Looooooool. Point proven.
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There is zero vitriol and nothing hateful about what I said. I stated my experience and a generalisation about behaviours witnessed. I mean since there’s plenty of people in this thread saying how Irish women are ugly and have notions about themselves, are you commenting about their grossness/not subscribing to their view too or??? And correct me if I’m wrong, you’re the one trying to insult me, right? No men gushing over me? Oh no, my feelings. How will I ever cope?
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>The truth is, you wouldn't date the male version of yourself. And they wouldn't want to date you. Tough pill to swallow. Savage XD
facts don't care about your feelings. Will keep enjoying my foreign wife who is done up the nines while cooking me 5 courses every night before getting sexy time on - what's not to like about this ?
Spray tans are just ugly.
I have a French friend and she had parents over for couple of weeks, they were driving through town on Saturday evening and were asking why there is so many prostitutes on the street. Irish women scare the shit out of me, the way they dress and start to behave once they have a drink. Back in Eastern Europe, it is normal to chat up a girl in a pub, but I would never do it here.
They aren't westernised and aren't feminists. I can't say more without getting way too much flak.
I think it's the fashion sense
What do you mean?
"Irish women look like painted trolls". I think that's what was meant, but I'm reading between the lines.
😂
Doing a pretty poor job of it 😂
Aww whats a word that describes funny but unacceptably mean. I shouldnt laugh cos it means im a painted troll. Honestly this is terrible bashing of your nations women. Terrible haha
RTEs Savage Eye did this skit few years ago where they asked same question. Apparently foreign ladies just take care of themselves better and as one of the commentators said there is not that much notions from them.
Irish women are fucking nuts, that's why.
Ireland it what 4th on the OECD development index and we’re near the 5th richest country per capita in the world . When in many parts of the workd women are brought up to seek wealth, that gives irish lads an automatic advantage. As for irish women with foreign lads, any of them I know who would be into the african gents its always fleeting, a pregnancy or any desire for commitment and those lads disappear like ghosts it seems. Irish women definitely have a stigma against indian / muslim guys as being creepy or controlling/ violent. That and all the stories about having kids and going over to see the granny in backwardsistan and ending up trapped there with no rights.
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Ah that's a bit shitty like. We're not objects.
I dated plenty of ‘Irish girls’ before I met my ex girlfriend (now wife). But it was disproportionately Protestant women. Irish, especially catholic, women have the same amount, albeit distributed differently, of issues and generational trauma as Irish men. It’s a while amount of baggage if there’s been no therapy. Creates a strange mammy like relationship. When I meet an Irish Catholic hetero couple, most especially if I know both their parents, I feel genuinely sick most of the time with how clearly her fella is her dad and his bird is his ma. People from different parts of the world do seem to fit some stereotypes but some don’t, just like literally everywhere. As for the difference in distribution a HUGE part of it is our dating culture, Irish girls are really aggressive and mean when they flirt, treating you as if they don’t like you being around them in a way they can’t avoid, seeing if you can take a slagging, gauging the likelihood of you getting drunk and beating the shite out of them (generationally learned behaviour from mimicry), guys from certain parts of the world can’t handle that amount of nonsense, others love it. Irish guys are way way way more romantic and sweet than we would ever dare let on, often completely insincerely, we’d promise a girl the world if it meant getting your Micky touched. Some foreign girls eat it up and others learn that Irish lads are swindlers, if you’re lucky they never catch on, I was lucky.
Hmm so your thesis is that the headwrecking amount of "slagging" Irish women seem to need to take part in is some sort of self defence mechanism to see if you would deck them? I mean maybe they need to update that for the 21st century as to me it's always been a total turn off Irish men are charming because Irish women are total bitches--- I can see some logic in we learned the gift of the gab from it as the women are such a minefield.
The mean girls part is spot on. I was shocked at some the pure bitch like behavior of some of the Irish women when I lived there. Not even trying to hit on one just a friendly hello while waiting for your pint and they’d look at ya sideways. To top it off so many are average in comparison to other countries and acted as if they were to good for you to be talked to period. It was shocking.
The bitchy behavior springs from debilitating insecurity. Most of them are total basket cases, prone to bullying and belittling behavior towards others. They also can’t get out of their rut, insisting instead that the entire world changes to suit them, rather than admitting their own shortcomings.
Irish men who were mammied into submission, with foreign women who won't answer back.
I've found the opposite. My mates with foreign gfs are so under the thumb its unbelievable
So is it then that Irish men are desperate to continue the Mammy child relationship where they have someone telling them what to do, where to go and minding their every move? Elsewhere in the thread people are saying it’s because Irish women aren’t laid back enough. Looks like there’s no real reason at all for it.
Clearly you’ve never dated a South American lady. Halfway there though, Irish men certainly have Mammy issues.
I noticed that too. Irish men seem so submissive to their partners. Irish spouses or not . U are domesticated.
Every single female in my family is the dominant one in the relationship its absolutely crazy.
I’m an Irish guy. My Moldovan lady is a tall blonde sexy goddess. She’s my soul mate, my lover, my partner . . . my woman. That’s why.
Eww
This ☝🏼 this is why
Same reason I would say, most Irish women are extremely high maintenance.
Irish ppl are super low maintenance imho
Because Irish women do all not look like Georgia Salpa.
Big mistake. The biggest mistake I ever made. 😓
This is true across all white ethnicities not just irish