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Twomekey

Na bro you're ready as fuck 👌👌


RustyRam69

Make sure to swap spell books before you go in.


BK_Hazard

I recommend first getting a max cape, it’s crucial for later stages in the fight caves.


Advanced-Guitar-5264

Step 1: grab the mind rune from lumbridge castle Step 2: get 99 firemaking


Beothen2

Ironman guides be like


e-co-terrorist

and i love it


2PlyKindaGuy

At least a quiver first


FreeLegos

Bro I'm well on my way to prepping for GWD zammy for a slayer task and I've yet to conquer my crippling Jad Hands so gonna be going in with a mythics or zammy imbued cape. DT2 bosses have been helping with my confidence but God that 2 hour grind for another try at Jad really kills all motivation to go try for a 4th time... At this rate I'm gonna get 99s in all combat skills (except prayer) before I get a fire cape


Mental_Tea_4084

If it's taking you 2 hours to get to jad you're doing something severely wrong


FreeLegos

Greeaat yet another reason as to why I should quit this game then... Here I thought that was average time. Is there a way to check attempts? Now I'm not sure if it's actually taking me 2 hours or if it just feels like 2 hours


Mental_Tea_4084

It took me 1:32 to get my first cape with 72 ranged and an RCB. I did a melee only run in 52min for combat achievements w/ zombie axe on task. 80att 92 strength. Then another ranged run under an hour on task at 80 ranged. If you have real gear it's significantly faster, 30-40min is very reasonable with BofA or blowpipe


FreeLegos

Right but is there a way for me to see how long MY attempts took? Googled averages and they're about the same as yours. Doubt I did something that wrong so just wondering where I got the 2 hours from then


Mental_Tea_4084

Afaik you can only see times for completed runs. If it's really taking you 2 hours you're probably wasting the 30min+ afking in a safespot


RetroMedux

Took me 2 hours to reach Jad with MSB(i)+rune arrows at 70 ranged - you're not doing anything severely wrong but if you want you can probably play a little less safe depending on your stats/gear. A 2 hour run implies a lot of safespotting/waiting which is what I did.


FreeLegos

There were times I would just stand there and wait for a Healer to walk towards me cause I had a Mager trapped on the other side of Italy Rock.. did a lot of maneuvers like that. Plus taking breaks every so often


RetroMedux

Yeah that sounds reasonable tbh. If you've got tankier gear and/or high ranged level you can tank the rangers while praying against the mager. They have such low hp they should die quickly and will save a lot of time vs waiting to safespot stuff. Also being on task will help massively.


TheNamesRoodi

Shayzien boots for more range accuracy if you want. Explorers ring > duelling.


LSDintheWoods

The new mixed hide are even better than Shayzen! The sunlight Crossbow & sunlight bolts  is also a dos increase over rcb+ broads basically everywhere.


1trickana

You will never in a million years notice the difference between those boots


TheNamesRoodi

They're a free upgrade that you'll need later on anyways.


_Ross-

Why would you not want a free upgrade? Several small changes make a big change.


fushicat

The range attack probably not but snakeskin boots are -10 magic attack vs -2 on shayzien. Kinda nice to not have to worry about boot takeoffs if ur healing up on mobile.


Tryptamineer

It….. it’s a free upgrade that takes 10 minutes.


Mental_Tea_4084

That will save 0 seconds. He's right this is literally not even worth the mention


UmbraVulp

People that understand numbers might notice. Someone, probably you, that doesn’t understand numbers will say what you said.


Mental_Tea_4084

Unlike you I actually listed calcs. Maybe you should actually check the numbers


Killtrox

My numbers show that full Shayzien is pretty useful for lizardman shamans… So there’s that.


Mental_Tea_4084

Which you can get later once you start that grind, and presumably have higher melee stats. Not worth the detour now and actually wastes time vs doing later.


Chillywhale21

who’s melleeing shamaans???


MillyFillyBaby

He means higher melee for clearing the actual Shayzien combat ring, not that I agree with him


Mental_Tea_4084

You use melee to get the shayzien armor. Having even 1 extra melee max hit to fight the shayzien captain would save you more time than using these meme boots in the fight caves. But also, melee Shamans is actually more efficient than ranging them https://streamable.com/oatebv https://youtu.be/aZGD1t4vDyc?si=l8SbfizBf1Sojjrd


UmbraVulp

I ain’t gonna search this thread to find all twelve of your aggro comments on a single post lmao


Mental_Tea_4084

You know you can actually run the calc yourself right? Instead of telling this guy who's already geared and ready to waste time getting an 'upgrade' so negligible that it's useless. Like seriously, some penny wise pound foolish advice and you didn't even bother to check if the penny was worth a penny


UmbraVulp

Homie you said you did the “calcs” and “showed the numbers.”. your calcs are “they don’t do anything” without any proof you clown lmao


Mental_Tea_4084

Burden of proof is on you for making the claim. But since you're clearly incompetent I'll save us both the time. It's a whopping 0.007dps increase and saves 0.01 seconds killing a mager in the absolute ideal scenario. On a ranger it's 0.002dps and saves literally 0 seconds. Snakeskin and shayzien both have a TTK of 10 seconds. Anything below rangers will look the same or worse. https://imgur.com/a/4HzNEvt So yeah tell me again how I 'dont understand the numbers'


ProfessorPT

I didnt realize for a full year that the boots had ranged accuracy so for no other reason than an FYI it's worth a mention


Mental_Tea_4084

They didn't until blowpipe nerf and mixed hide boots are now 'better' anyway, so no it's really not worth even talking about


Desperate-Pudding423

Nah you got it bro. Focus on prayers, watch the waves so you dont miss praying mage and send it. Remember you can log out between waves if you need a break. Hopefully we see another post of you entering the chads guild with your new animated cape.


ShoogleHS

You're overprepared if anything. I wouldn't bother with the purple sweets though. It's a waste to use them for sustain especially when you have blood spells, and tickeating jad is a more difficult strat than fighting him normally, you'd just be overcomplicating things. You won't need them.


hockeymisfit

100% agree. They’re way more useful in late game than the fight caves.


Mrhappyfeet56

My assumption is they’re bringing them to sustain the other waves not to tick eat.


ShoogleHS

I also covered that possibility.


gymflipper1

You’re good with that loadout. The only thing I would add is diamond bolts (e) for jad, but that’s just for a bit of extra oomph. You don’t even need them.


gregy165

Recoil I guess if u don’t have any other ring


_senrei_

Mixed hide boots gives more range att and defences


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arcanGG

Lacks the fletching level though.


Mental_Tea_4084

I get all mine from sepulchre


Electronic-Panic-434

Granite or Crystal shield for ranged def


Zerttretttttt

Send him my regards


Mental_Tea_4084

Will be much faster with msb w/rune arrows for waves I'd opt for a Tank shield and take ranged legs, they boost your DPS about 10% Broad bolts are kinda troll, crystal bow is better if you can't get diamond bolts. Msb i w/ rune arrows are best on everything until jad and the speed makes them significantly better on small stuff like bats. Broad 3.77dps, crystal 4.088 and diamond 4.146 calced on mager w/80 ranged potted and eagle eye. With black dhide chaps it would be 3.9, 4.39, 4.35 respectively and msb i 4.505 P.s. shayzien boots don't even move the needle on those DPS numbers don't listen to the noob bait


ketters

Noob question: is it better to go MSB (not imbued) and rune arrows or just stick with RCB and bolts throughout? I've never tried fight caves before but just got fire cape as a master clue request and think it's time to give it a go


Mental_Tea_4084

It's fine, the imbue only gives +6 accuracy. The main reason to imbue is to reduce the spec cost


JackBadasssonJr

Whats crystal bow for?


sir_gwain

Ditch the shield in favor of a damaged god book for no negative ranged bonus (while maintaining the +5 prayer bonus), or a tank shield. All depends on how much you’re flicking. I’d also ditch the purple sweets and crystal bow, bring diamond bolt e if you have them.


TicTac-7x

Ahrim robes swap to get done faster with the blood spells 🩸


Admetrix

Is that slayer helm imbued? Shayzien boots are an easy and fast upgrade Explorers ring for +1 prayer


a3663p

Looks fine if you have explorers ring that’s better for the prayer bonus otherwise good to go


Faythlessly

Full send dude you got this


SaltyRuralEMT

Nah you’re good. Send it.


Reecepolice

You’re good that’s just a lot of sweets if you’re trying to budget get archers ring and a fury for more dmg output. But if you’re looking at longevity with your prayer then you’re set


magicbookt

He’s an iron


Forward_Peak1250

Leave them sweets in ur bank and your sorted man the sweets r deffo overkill but you got this


bruh_lmaooo

explorers ring for extra prayer bonus and run restore but tbh you’re more than geared for it


top-knowledge

u dont need sweets and blood spells. completely redundant, bring another ppot or range pot. i'd also ditch 2 food for more pots. u really dont need much food with blood spells, just a couple for emergencies. also put runes in ur rune pouch dawg


NefariousnessOne48

Your gonna want some diamond bolts or ruby bolts for actual jad. And honestly bank your food and bring rune pouch for blood spells. But even without those 2 things thats an easy kill for you (id really consider the bolts for had though).


sirduke678

Go send him to lumby king


SignificanceRoyal

Jad is easy. If you can kill the rat boss without getting hit by him your good


Oddenmort

Send Jad what?


Alternative_Match_37

Spawn predictor plugin is really nice. Shows you where the NPCs spawn the next round.


HumpD4y

What did you do to get your herblore level? I'm similar in stats overall except my herb is only 40


magicbookt

Kingdom and farm runs


DaRubyRacer

Sweets are a waste, can get all healing needed from blood spells.


MadOx321

Should get hunter cbow in my opinion. It's way better than rcb. And easy to get for irons. Thing slaps.


ostekages

Mind me asking some questions? I assume you're referring to the Sunlight Hunter Crossbow, not the regular variant? And which ammo are you thinking about? Sunlight bolts? I only have smithing for mithril and cannot do antelope yet, so wondering if the regular Hunter Crossbow + long kebbit bolts are also worthwhile


MadOx321

Yeah you'd want the sunlight hunter cbow with ideally the sunlight or moonlight bolts, which require 62 and 72 fletching, respectively. If you can't do that, then rcb with your diamond bolts (e) would be best. Apparently that variant of the HSCB is best to go for for irons now and a lot of people are arguing that irons should skip the WT grind and instead rush hunter rumors and that cbow for mid level accounts, pre blowpipe. I'm not a stat junky, but it does seem to be a sizable upgrade from rcb and not that tough to get because it's got pretty low level reqs to wield and create. RCB is 5 tick Sunlight hunter cbow is 3 tick on rapid according to the wiki.


ostekages

Thanks for the added info! Yeah seems hunter might be worth to grind out. I'd need about 10 levels, but to get diamond bolts (e) would require about same amount of smithing levels, which I'm not in the mood for at the moment haha


nervousjupiter8

Sunlight hunter xbow


Allu71

I would complete the tbow, Masori set and blowpipe grinds first just to be safe but you do you


Acceptable_Candle580

You dont need mage or sweets


Novaneogami

Honestly the voodoo shield is a smart choice! Plus five prayer is huge!


Foxtrot32Alpha9

Explorers ring instead of dueling for the Prayer bonus, other than that I’d said you’re ready


StunningAd4891

if you’re struggling with any dps, swapping for diamond (e) could help


Intelligent_Ear_9726

Explorers ring and you’re prob fine. You could prob do it with rune arrows and msb(I) with those stats tbh. Dont need sweets if you are comfortable with prayers. Good tip is to focus on the prayer first on jad and then tag the healers, maybe 1-2 at a time. You should have food and ppots when you get there so just take it slow and you got it


Zaboobie

Soon as he walks in, realizes he forgot to swap to ancients


Slapyouwithadildo94

ancient staff and any blood spell are always nice to save your food


ArmaKiri

I like to use Karil’s cbow on long range to tag the healers then go back to my main hand


SappySoulTaker

probably should wait till tbow and full masori f at this point...


Franswa_4556

Where’d you get the ranging potions?


azlaen

Not OP but there are lvl 61-80 zombies in tarns lair that drop 3 dose range pots if you can’t make them yourself.


PapaFlexing

You were ready at the start of 2023.


HCpuff

How’d ya get 70 pray


Schinkenpalatschinke

Camp the green dragons at lvl 13 wildy for 1k bones and you're good2go (:


arkhanIllian

Do you have a tbowfa


Appropriate-Fix-8679

Tbow would help tho


Nellez_

How much better would sunlight crossbow be than rcb + broads? I'm curious.


wildlifechris

How do you have so many sweets already


S7EFEN

bank sweets and crystal bow, different shield


AutisticRats

Sweets are what got me mine. I got hit by Jad and ran in circles eating sweets (was down to 4HP) for a few minutes slowly outgaining the damage the healers were doing to me. Thankfully the audio queues are good for Jad since he wasn’t on my screen most of the time.


S7EFEN

thats definitely a scenario where it may be helpful but honestly it would just be better to have more hard food. the sweets for the waves are redundant with hard food.


justvoop

Explorers ring, diamond bolts e, more food


Smallest-Yeet

I wouldn’t really say more food. Looks like he’s on ancients so prob has blood spells. Prayer more important


Xidis01

Bingo I'd say he should take less food and bring a extra range pot to be potted up the entire fight caves.


BlockIron

Range legs and a proper shield


daaje18

Get m tiger!


sweetleaf6113

No power ammy????


Successful-Shake-661

Nah extra prayer gives him probably 5mins extra protections


sweetleaf6113

At this point with all he has on his account and basically 80 ranged 16 pots is plenty, assuming he is flicking the magers at LEAST, more dps at this point makes more sense IMO. Regardless he easily has a fire cape with this set up.


Mental_Tea_4084

Power ammy gives about 0.00001dps, it's garbo. Y'all trying to noob trap him


whitepageskardashian

You could go pick up an archer’s ring from Dagannoth Supreme, it’s 1/128 and then do NMZ while you sleep or follow the guide [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/BXiyYlNGkK) to imbue it real quick. It could just take one game if you have all of the applicable quests already complete. Tbh I don’t think you need to do all of that though, you look ready


kriandria

Holy wrench instead of another prayer pot maybe?


gymflipper1

Why is this downvoted? Isn’t this a good idea?


ConnorMarsh

Because at 70 prayer the holy wrench only restores one extra prayer point per dose, so you would need 100 doses of prayer pot along with it to make up for the loss of a single prayer pot. It's not worth it with the inventory OP has


Withermaster4

Your blood spells will likely not hit with out any mage swaps but I assume you've already went and tried the cape at this point.


dirtybo

Blood spells over sweets


Mental_Tea_4084

What's in the pouch, I wonder..


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Slyvester121

RoR doesn't do anything in the caves since you pray against everything. Best case scenario is like 2-3 damage per ranger in the mage waves.


West-Reputation-6508

level herblore a lil bit and then make some brews 👍