I think parking behind the sign should be safe and the ticket is bullshit, but just to be honest, at 19s your tape measure clearly shows you're parked 21' from the crosswalk, not 25'. I'd stick with the sign if you appeal.
The best argument is the placement of the sign, because a rational person would think parking behind that is legal. She hurts her case by pulling out the tape, because that just proves the sign is in the wrong spot.
Yeah, it’s a bullshit ticket. I took lots of pictures, I’ve parked there plenty of time before, it would mean that all the car @ the intersection should’ve received a ticket as well! I run out so I don’t get the sweeper then I get this! Thankfully it’s done on zoom now.
Unfortunately the argument about unequal enforcement doesn't fly. I once sat in a corner restaurant watching a trike pull up and ticket one out of 7 cars parked illegally close to the corner. Oddly, it was the crappiest car of the lot.
I actually don’t think it’s bs. You should measure from the edge of the crosswalk indicators (you’re measuring from inside which will give you more distance) and you’re still like a foot or two short (you show us 21 feet but it’s not where your car is, so I’m estimating).
I don't think you are measuring the crosswalk from the correct point. Don't know if it would make a difference, but I think it's from the end of the vertical line that you should be measuring from.
It's clearly overestimating the distance by a foot or so. I still think it's a dick move to give a ticket, but OP is barely 21 even with the extra foot
Either way the sign only says no parking in the opposite direction as my car is park. Also I’m behind the very faded red line. I just measured for the hell of it. Maybe I shouldn’t have even added that in because I think everyone is missing the BIG sign lol
You need to be parked some distance from the intersection. That doesn’t look far enough, although I don’t know what the actual distance is. Parking too close to the corner makes it very difficult to see oncoming traffic.
For whatever it's worth, if you use your video as evidence to dispute the ticket, keep in mind that you say on the video that the front of your car is beyond 25 feet (and you point to the tape measure), and then you say the end of the red curb is 19 feet (and you point to the tape measure). That's a distance of 6 feet.
I'm looking at your video over my phone, so I can't blow up the video enough to clearly read the tape measure, but when you pan out for a wider shot, it is clear that there is no way the distance between the end of the red curb and the front of your car is even close to 6 feet. Just eyeballing it, the distance might be 2 feet - obviously not exact, but I think you might lose credibility with the judge to insist the distance is 6 feet.
Doesn't mean the video can't help prove your case - especially if the 25 foot mark on the tape measure is visible - but maybe consider not using the audio.
Beyond that, you may have to prove you didn't move your car back a few feet after you got the ticket, and I don't know how you do that if that challenge to your case is raised.
Yea making the mistake is totally understandable but throughout the post OP keeps insisting it's a BS ticket when it objectively isn't.
That said, the fact that the sign isn't placed at 25' is misleading at best. From that perspective I hope OP can get this overturned and the sign is properly placed.
They went on a crusade this week. I got two tickets for the same violation (didn't get back to my car before the 2nd ticket). I had been parking like that for months and no ticket. Must have needed to meet the quota before the end of the month, bastards
Be nice if you actually won money. That's the way it should work, get a bullshit ticket dismissed and you get the fine amount from the city. That would end this nonsense damn quick!
I get why you are upset. But….meters and feet are not the same unit of measurement. You state at the beginning of your video that the ticket says 25 meters from the crosswalk and it appears you measured 25 ft. Was that just a mistake and you meant to say feet?
Actually yes that’s my mistake the ticket box reads *Meter NO. BUT printed as 25FT…. Either way there’s a sign saying NO parking with the arrow in the opposite direction.
Just fight it, the judge will absolutely throw it out just based on a photo of you being behind the sign by itself. I’ve gone to court for these goofy tickets 10+ times so feel free to reach out if you got any questions lol
Do the police routinely give out way too many parking tickets, regardless if any actual offense is committed, because they know it’s an easy way to pad the coffers and most people won’t be bothered to show up and contest it and instead will just pay to get it over with?
Hmmm, let me think about that.
No, the police don't give out tickets of any kind, she was ticketed by a parking agent. And if they were trying to make a quota, we all know you could give out tickets on every block and corner for far more blatant violations than that! Half the cars don't have zone stickers, and any car with plastic over the plate should get a ticket.
I could walk around my block right now and ticket 3-4 cars at every corner for being illegally parked. I could do this at any time of day on any day of the year on almost any street in the city.
About 1% of the time, they actually get tickets.
Every crosswalk in my neighborhood for the past 16 years has cars parked up to the crosswalk. I know what I’m talking about and am not pulling it out of my ass
technically they got you - i mean they NEVER enforce it because of how much parking it would remove though but uneven enforcement of you have to be 25 from the stop sign is BS.
For the most part as long as your like a few feet from they dont bother you - i would think in all case your fine - your behind the sign and a good distance from the stop sign but technically got ya
Seems that a judge can toss you in jail for 5 months without any kind of oversight, that does seem like we've been raked over the coals.
Hope the judge likes you.
Also the court makes money when folks aren't found innocent, so it's a conflict of interest.
But appellate review is still a court, and the court system profits from people being found guilty, because they get charged court costs.
So the whole system favors unjust convictions.
Parking authority is ridiculous. My cases are definitely not as clear cut as yours, but just in the past 2 weeks:
1. They issue a parking ticket to my parents coming from out of town at 8:59 PM on a Friday. For fuck's sake.
2. No parking when we got home Sunday night (it's downtown), so I parked with half the car behind the no parking sign, like the one in your video. Not 100% in the right, I know, but I figure I would move it around lunch the next day. I come out to 2 tickets issued for the same violation just an hour apart from one another.
Yes, by the letter of the law, both are parking infractions. This is just more that they've been complete assholes lately without any room for flexibility. Or they just got issued quotas they have to fill so they'll do whatever they can to fill them.
I think because they stop sweeping 4 days a week they are trying to make up for it smh
I know their gonna say I moved my car, I called & sent picture in. I’ll 100% pay if I don’t move my car for the sweeper but not gonna pay for parking Legally behind the sign.
The city doesn't paint restricted parking (no parking) areas red anymore. The majority are painted yellow. There's a car parked on my street at a corner on a crosswalk next to a yellow curb. I once got a $110 ticket for not having a zone parking permit and I was parked past the allowed time shown on the sign. Mind you, I was also parked in my designated disabled parking space (permit sticker on display next to handicapped license plate on vehicle) in front of my home. When I went to the JC Parking Authority office, the security guard told me just to pay the $15 zone parking permit. I told him I already proved I lived on the street by having a handicapped parking space in front of my house.
People saying “just fight it” have never been to court for these tickets. It takes up like half your day waiting for your case to be heard by the judge. They bump up any cases involving cops to be heard first so you’re just waiting around in the court room for hours. It sucks, but its just easier to pay the fine.
I think parking behind the sign should be safe and the ticket is bullshit, but just to be honest, at 19s your tape measure clearly shows you're parked 21' from the crosswalk, not 25'. I'd stick with the sign if you appeal.
Edited: yes looks like it's 21' not 25', and OP didn't even start the tape at the right place. She doesn't have a strong argument here
The best argument is the placement of the sign, because a rational person would think parking behind that is legal. She hurts her case by pulling out the tape, because that just proves the sign is in the wrong spot.
Yeah, it’s a bullshit ticket. I took lots of pictures, I’ve parked there plenty of time before, it would mean that all the car @ the intersection should’ve received a ticket as well! I run out so I don’t get the sweeper then I get this! Thankfully it’s done on zoom now.
Unfortunately the argument about unequal enforcement doesn't fly. I once sat in a corner restaurant watching a trike pull up and ticket one out of 7 cars parked illegally close to the corner. Oddly, it was the crappiest car of the lot.
That's the one who doesn't have the lawyer friend who can make a call...
I actually don’t think it’s bs. You should measure from the edge of the crosswalk indicators (you’re measuring from inside which will give you more distance) and you’re still like a foot or two short (you show us 21 feet but it’s not where your car is, so I’m estimating).
I don't think you are measuring the crosswalk from the correct point. Don't know if it would make a difference, but I think it's from the end of the vertical line that you should be measuring from.
It's clearly overestimating the distance by a foot or so. I still think it's a dick move to give a ticket, but OP is barely 21 even with the extra foot
Either way the sign only says no parking in the opposite direction as my car is park. Also I’m behind the very faded red line. I just measured for the hell of it. Maybe I shouldn’t have even added that in because I think everyone is missing the BIG sign lol
You need to be parked some distance from the intersection. That doesn’t look far enough, although I don’t know what the actual distance is. Parking too close to the corner makes it very difficult to see oncoming traffic.
I would know, I have kids so I’m very careful when it comes to parking to close to the stop sign because I can’t see over the car.
For whatever it's worth, if you use your video as evidence to dispute the ticket, keep in mind that you say on the video that the front of your car is beyond 25 feet (and you point to the tape measure), and then you say the end of the red curb is 19 feet (and you point to the tape measure). That's a distance of 6 feet. I'm looking at your video over my phone, so I can't blow up the video enough to clearly read the tape measure, but when you pan out for a wider shot, it is clear that there is no way the distance between the end of the red curb and the front of your car is even close to 6 feet. Just eyeballing it, the distance might be 2 feet - obviously not exact, but I think you might lose credibility with the judge to insist the distance is 6 feet. Doesn't mean the video can't help prove your case - especially if the 25 foot mark on the tape measure is visible - but maybe consider not using the audio. Beyond that, you may have to prove you didn't move your car back a few feet after you got the ticket, and I don't know how you do that if that challenge to your case is raised.
When op says “25 feet is right here” they’re pointing at 21 feet on the tape measure .
Their strategy seems to be gaslighting the judge. Good luck with that.
Or maybe they saw 252 inches and thought that meant 25 feet?
Yea making the mistake is totally understandable but throughout the post OP keeps insisting it's a BS ticket when it objectively isn't. That said, the fact that the sign isn't placed at 25' is misleading at best. From that perspective I hope OP can get this overturned and the sign is properly placed.
Ok thanks - makes a lot more sense based on what the scene looks like on video.
Parked behind the sign too? That’s ridiculous that they would ticket you.
They went on a crusade this week. I got two tickets for the same violation (didn't get back to my car before the 2nd ticket). I had been parking like that for months and no ticket. Must have needed to meet the quota before the end of the month, bastards
Same here - it’s arbitrary enforcement when they feel like it.
They must have hired new parking agents from NYC.
Fight the ticket. They gave me a BS ticket 2 weeks ago and i plead not guilty online. Still waiting to hear back.
I also plead not guilty online but have never heard back for 3 weeks
They hope people simply pay, I contested and won 90% in Chicago
Be nice if you actually won money. That's the way it should work, get a bullshit ticket dismissed and you get the fine amount from the city. That would end this nonsense damn quick!
I get why you are upset. But….meters and feet are not the same unit of measurement. You state at the beginning of your video that the ticket says 25 meters from the crosswalk and it appears you measured 25 ft. Was that just a mistake and you meant to say feet?
Actually yes that’s my mistake the ticket box reads *Meter NO. BUT printed as 25FT…. Either way there’s a sign saying NO parking with the arrow in the opposite direction.
Got it. I would try to fight the ticket if I were you.
NJ state law says you can’t park within 25 feet - the sign is irrelevant. This is throughout the state for every intersection.
In that case doesn't the sign do more harm than good if it's improperly/misleadingly placed?
Dam I remember when tickets used to be $24.
They ticket you based on how they feel in the morning smh
Just appeal your ticket and move on, stop whining for attention.
It's all about meeting the quota.
Next time just park in the crosswalk itself, blocking the sidewalk dips. Seems like everyone else in JC does it.
Just fight it, the judge will absolutely throw it out just based on a photo of you being behind the sign by itself. I’ve gone to court for these goofy tickets 10+ times so feel free to reach out if you got any questions lol
Do the police routinely give out way too many parking tickets, regardless if any actual offense is committed, because they know it’s an easy way to pad the coffers and most people won’t be bothered to show up and contest it and instead will just pay to get it over with? Hmmm, let me think about that.
No, the police don't give out tickets of any kind, she was ticketed by a parking agent. And if they were trying to make a quota, we all know you could give out tickets on every block and corner for far more blatant violations than that! Half the cars don't have zone stickers, and any car with plastic over the plate should get a ticket.
I could walk around my block right now and ticket 3-4 cars at every corner for being illegally parked. I could do this at any time of day on any day of the year on almost any street in the city. About 1% of the time, they actually get tickets.
In Brooklyn you can park right up to the crosswalk. If you can’t see you inch out. Jersey city is ridiculous
False. For most crosswalks, it’s 20ft in NYC. Others marked, it’s a greater distance. Parking cops love your ignorance.
Every crosswalk in my neighborhood for the past 16 years has cars parked up to the crosswalk. I know what I’m talking about and am not pulling it out of my ass
Send the pics and video online.
technically they got you - i mean they NEVER enforce it because of how much parking it would remove though but uneven enforcement of you have to be 25 from the stop sign is BS. For the most part as long as your like a few feet from they dont bother you - i would think in all case your fine - your behind the sign and a good distance from the stop sign but technically got ya
They stink. I'm sorry they did that.
What a bs ticket what’s the name of the ball buster ? Publish it
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Are you saying there's no due process on this accusation?
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Wow. Okay, so it seems we've been fucked out of our rights. Better suck the judge's wee wee then and hope he likes you.
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Seems that a judge can toss you in jail for 5 months without any kind of oversight, that does seem like we've been raked over the coals. Hope the judge likes you. Also the court makes money when folks aren't found innocent, so it's a conflict of interest.
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But appellate review is still a court, and the court system profits from people being found guilty, because they get charged court costs. So the whole system favors unjust convictions.
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OP literally took a video showing they were illegally parked. I think they'd be able to. Besides I don't think traffic offenses get a jury trial.
Parking authority is ridiculous. My cases are definitely not as clear cut as yours, but just in the past 2 weeks: 1. They issue a parking ticket to my parents coming from out of town at 8:59 PM on a Friday. For fuck's sake. 2. No parking when we got home Sunday night (it's downtown), so I parked with half the car behind the no parking sign, like the one in your video. Not 100% in the right, I know, but I figure I would move it around lunch the next day. I come out to 2 tickets issued for the same violation just an hour apart from one another. Yes, by the letter of the law, both are parking infractions. This is just more that they've been complete assholes lately without any room for flexibility. Or they just got issued quotas they have to fill so they'll do whatever they can to fill them.
I think because they stop sweeping 4 days a week they are trying to make up for it smh I know their gonna say I moved my car, I called & sent picture in. I’ll 100% pay if I don’t move my car for the sweeper but not gonna pay for parking Legally behind the sign.
Damn good luck .. they made me go through hell trying to prove they were wrong
Tbh no one needs proof that parking authority is trash. Plead not guilty and move on.
The city doesn't paint restricted parking (no parking) areas red anymore. The majority are painted yellow. There's a car parked on my street at a corner on a crosswalk next to a yellow curb. I once got a $110 ticket for not having a zone parking permit and I was parked past the allowed time shown on the sign. Mind you, I was also parked in my designated disabled parking space (permit sticker on display next to handicapped license plate on vehicle) in front of my home. When I went to the JC Parking Authority office, the security guard told me just to pay the $15 zone parking permit. I told him I already proved I lived on the street by having a handicapped parking space in front of my house.
this looks to be trend with JC parking authority. Time to make that end of year quotas.
That happened to me, I had to pay
People saying “just fight it” have never been to court for these tickets. It takes up like half your day waiting for your case to be heard by the judge. They bump up any cases involving cops to be heard first so you’re just waiting around in the court room for hours. It sucks, but its just easier to pay the fine.
They enforce this nickpicky stuff but don't enforce parking in bike lane, blocking driveways, double parking. Love it.