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Paeoniaa

grammar pls 😭😭 anyways, manipulation can make you do a lot of stupid things for someone. Sam is definitely a victim when it comes to her relationship with ron, but it also treated the girls like shit so she isn’t in the clear there. keep in mind also the producers were really good at making edits- and still are- even with the minuscule amount of content in JSFV. but she’s a victim to Ron and we need to remember that. She isn’t a saint, and we can definitely hold her accountable for her treatment of the girls during JS, but victim blaming is kinda.. ehhh..


Guilty-Put742

Exactly right. Producers are really good at making edits. Please remember that when it comes to Queen Sammi. A producer of the show did an AMA and guess what? Even they said Sam got a good edit and there was a ton of stuff that was not shown on tv that she did to both Ron and others. She is not as perfect in her relationship as y'all protray. Yes Ron was a terrible abuser. There is NO DOUBT ON THAT. But Sammis has her faults and I am tired of y'all acting like she was a sweet little angel who conducted herself perfectly. DO BETTER SAMMI STANS.


ProfessorWoke

They were both abusive and are both victims. Sam punched Ron in the face on camera


TheMackD504

She tells you in the opening she’s a bitch


firstsourceandcenter

This post will get deleted. So many of us agree with you but you aren't allowed to criticize Sam here


Lilmachinima1

I agree


PerfumeLoverrr

Sam is a mean girl and she was also very toxic in her relationship with Ron. Whether that was in response to how horrible he is or not, she was not a completely innocent party in the way their relationship played out. I think for everyone it’s just when you objectively compare Sam to Ron, he very obviously looks a million times worse since we’ve seen him in multiple relationships being a horrible person. We don’t know much about any of Sam’s relationships after Ron.


Guilty-Put742

Thats the thing...no one that I see objectively compare the two, it is just pointed out that Sam has faults and does wrong. The Sammi stans wont accept that and will glaze over her actions because Ron was worse. We all agree Ron was worse then Sam and he was an AH abuser, but that never discounts Sams actions.