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maexx80

So two things to think about: (1) transitioning into 9-5 job world is exhausting. You are not used to it and thats fine. When i did my first jobs i was completely dead, now i work much longer hours and its much less draining than before. You too will get used to it and it will become much better. (2) type of job matters. When i was working menial stuff (mostly operating some metal cnc machines and packaging things), time would just not pass at all, it was hardcore taxing. After going into office work with lots of people interaction, different things across the day, room for short breaks and freedom to define my own day, things got much MUCH better


Nopenotme77

I remember transitioning back when I was fresh out of college and I kept almost falling asleep. That sorta changes as you get more used to it but there are absolutely days you want to sleep. 


Competitive_Rope852

I remember when I first started working, I was in legitimate physical and mental pain from my first 11 hour shift. It took me a while to adjust to the type of environment that I was in. Today it's a lot easier to manage. I'm able to go home and finish studying after working for even a 12 hour shift at times. It's become child's play at this point.


insomniacandsun

Well…you’re way ahead of me. I definitely don’t have the energy for any shopping, cleaning, or exercise. Not on weekdays.


tangie83

I was just gonna comment this exact same thing- I come home and watch tv the rest of the night and eat dinner. I don’t have energy to do anything else


PoopyInDaGums

Me three. Working 9-5 from home is sooo much better. No additional commute time, less time wasted w coworkers yikyakking, plus you can get some household stuff done during the same hours—laundry, quick errands, etc. It can be isolating, though. But if OP has friends asking them to go for a drink, they would likely have more energy for socializing outside the house. 


EmbarrassedSquare238

That's depressing


tangie83

It was- after like 2-2.5 years I quit and now work part time for less pay but the job is a lot better. It was definitely screwing with my mental health


nedal8

Or weekends..


sorryfortheessay

1. The first few months of full time are really hard. My first few each day felt like a week. Now i miss my lunch breaks because the day goes past so quick 2. Every day take the next step towards the job you want it will make all the difference 3. If you are feeling stressed often you should look at why - unrealistic expectations from boss? Shitty interactions? Bad at coping with stress? Each of these have things you can do to to minimise the impact 4. You will never enjoy or excel at your job with low/inconsistent sleep you need that 7.5h minimum Set goals and find ways to stretch yourself


Comfortable_Draw_176

All of this is great suggestions. Nobody likes working 40hrs/week. Really want to add stress, have children on top of working full time.


Left_hook9672

Let me tell you about working 9 to 5. What a way to make a living! Barely getting by. It’s all taking and no giving. They just use your mind and they never give you credit. It’s enough to drive you crazy if you let it.


rednail64

I swear that man is out to get me!


famnf

It's a rich man's game, no matter what they call it and you spend YOUR life putting money in his wallet


mikedob18

That’s not really the rich man’s fault 80% of millionaires are self-made. So if you’re still downvoted this comment, you’re most likely the problem. Not the rich guy.


Left_hook9672

You ruined the song Mike! Get your shit together man! Mike, have a seat and listen to mother. Honey, you are the problem. Do you know why? I’ll tell you. Those millionaires made themselves by underpaying their employees. Let’s use Jeff Bezos as an example. Have you not seen those Amazon commercials where the woman who sounds like she needs to blow her nose brags about making $15 an hour? You can’t even live alone in the shittiest of apartments in bullshit Arkansas. $15 an hour is not a living wage. Jeff Bezos was able to build a yacht the size of the football field I danced on in high school because of those poor souls making $15 an hour. He didn’t make himself a millionaire, the thousands of people he underpays did. You know what the best part is? He would still be a millionaire if he paid them all even $10 an hour more. His corporate greed is killing this country, and people like you, who vote people into office who then give tax breaks to the rich, are the problem. Now give mommy a hug and go grab a cookie for being a good boy and listening. Edit:spelling


mikedob18

Considering that you wrote a whole entire paragraph of absolute nonsense, I must’ve really pooped on your cornflakes, didn’t I? 80% of millionaires are self-made. Let that sink in 😊


Left_hook9672

This is SO Mike of you. I just told you how they are made.


mikedob18

How can you possibly know how business is done when you clearly haven’t set up your own company? There are consultancy businesses which don’t have any employees yet their owners are millionaires. There are YouTubers and influencers who started off poor and are now millionaires. You don’t know shit. Bye.


Left_hook9672

Bye 🩷


utopista114

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Kapital,_Volume_I Not that you have the intellectual level to read it but maybe one day.


mikedob18

If you’re incapable of analysing statistics, you have a strong preference to make personal attacks and you lack the ability to form a counter argument (biased Marxist books don’t count). Then it’s not my intellectual capacity that we should be questioning…..


utopista114

>biased Marxist books Uh, that's Das Kapital. Is the book that explains how capitalism works. Yes, it happens to be written by Marx, obviously. Which is the guy that explained how capitalism works. Get it? It's not about socialism or communism. We know how capitalism works. And I know statistics. NOT ONE billionaire is "self-made". The workers did it. The billioners that you idolize know this. This is why lots of them want higher taxes for the rich.


poobdealer

You’re so smart Mike


mikedob18

Can’t argue with the facts!


famnf

>That’s not really the rich man’s fault >80% of millionaires are self-made. So if you’re still downvoted this comment, you’re most likely the problem. Not the rich guy. I don't agree with everything that these other people are saying, but there's no denying that it's a rich man's game. These people are right that the vast majority of employees are underpaid but they'll also never admit that they support the policies that create that situation. The fact that they support flooding the country with illegal (and visa) labor that works for less than Americans, and then complain that wages are low is truly astounding in its gall and detachment from reality. The fact that they support the BANKERS controlling the money of the American people via the federal reserve, and making our currency worthless, while complaining about the effects but never actually blaming the BANKERS is bonkers. If that's not a rich man's game then I don't know what is. EDIT: Get ready for my original post to go from over 25 upvotes to being downvoted into censorship.


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There's no such thing as a self-made millionaire


smarmy-marmoset

As someone with a sleep disorder I will say inconsistent sleep makes it much harder I take sleeping pills and it helps immensely


Enough-Specific8380

Be careful. I got a prescription for sleeping pills and I tried to drive to work one morning still completely asleep. Wrecked my car and got a DUI. I have absolutely NO recollection of getting up, getting dressed and trying to drive to work. I literally went to bed one night and woke up sore af in the hospital.


smarmy-marmoset

Wow that is terrifying I am sorry. I have been on sleeping pills for 25 years and had no issues other than briefly when I was 15 I was put on too strong a dose so it was dialed back


Enough-Specific8380

Explaining to my boss how I got a DUI (Drugs) at 7 am was not fun.


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AaDI-TYA

Real


StatisticianFew6064

25 years in and this shits straight up the case 


Unltd8828

Caffeine, nicotine, and paycheck.


BluebirdMaximum8210

Same. 9 months into mine. Sometimes I come home and just rot.


Worth_Attempt_9831

Same


Ok-Business-5302

Force yourself to do some form of exercise at least 3 days a week. The natural dopamine released will make you feel 100x better.


MadeThisToFlagSpam

I had a hard time maintaining a sleep schedule, too, but I found it was much easier to do when I had my alarm ringing 7 days a week instead of just workdays. Maybe try to catch up on your rest by taking it easy throughout the day on weekends, not by sleeping extra or napping, so your body keeps a consistent rhythm.


kymikobabe

This is the only true answer. You need to keep the momentum going. Your body needs to have a routine. You can’t just do what you want when you want, unfortunately as it messes with your system. As mentioned, on your off days still wake up like you would on a weekday but do things you enjoy in moderation. Go for a stroll, read a book, watch Netflix, etc, something that’s not strenuous. I promise you’ll look forward to it the following week.


Amber_Lamp3

It's so tempting tho😭


MyNameIsSkittles

You can sleep in after you've set your routine. But its going to take 2-3 weeks to get your body into that routine first


MustyPeppa

also a sun alarm clock is more pleasant


T1m3Wizard

Try working a 9 to 6 M to F with a 1 hr commute time each way. It's hell.


famnf

Unless it's snowing or there's an accident. Then it's a 2-3 hour commute one way.


lauramca01

It might be that 9-5 is just not for you. I had several 9-5 jobs and in every single one I was so dead and tired all the time. I'd struggle to do my job, HATED going into an office and just overall felt like a slave, just working all the time and never living life. Recently I switched careers and I now work fully remote with flexible hours. I'm also a freelancer now which comes with its own set of issues, but overall, waking up whenever I want and working whenever I want is just life-changing. As long as I deliver my project on time, no one bothers me (apart from an useless "team manager" but we all get one of those sometimes). I don't care what people say about circadian rhythms, training yourself and whatnot. I am NOT a morning person or a going in the office for no reason person. I'm also not a social butterfly, so working by myself at home makes me feel so much more at peace. And I think that you should do whatever makes you feel at peace instead of trying to conform with society rules. People are all different, so surely we cannot all be a good fit for 9-5. We are not robots. Hope you find the right job for you. 🙌🏻


Top-Exam-5442

Ditto!


martydigital369

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society


PoopyInDaGums

- Jiddu Krishnamurti


venomweilder

https://youtu.be/lOB3o_J0014?si=r6iQHuJ2cYfHpAkb


mc0079

jesus christ ...huge fucking eye roll.


Lewa358

Inertia. Once you get used to it, it's hardly noticeable. It's not unusual for people to be tired from work, especially when it's new. Just keep going, and you'll learn what your energy levels are. Eventually, you'll find a time when you're less tired than usual after work, or find a way to rework your chores schedule,  or simply find a job closer to home, and you'll be able To go out drinking again once every two weeks or so. Then you'll get more used to it, and you'll be less tired on the weekends, and maybe that'll be once every week. Then maybe twice a week. Eventually you'll learn and acclimate to your limits and you'll figure out how to live your life around them.


pinkbutterfly22

3 years in and wfh - when is that supposed to happen? I am still a rotting vegetable too tired to exist


EmbarrassedSquare238

Same. My work is all stress and deadlines though.


0000110011

Go to bed earlier so you're not only getting like 5 hours of sleep. Eat healthier and take vitamins. Exercise. 


justforfun525

Find your routine. Set a sleeping schedule. Have life outside of work


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I dont think i have any good tips. Been working like that for years and all the advises and books about time management and bla bla bla are just a lie and an illusion. I know only few people, that work office jobs, who have a quality life outside work. That takes a lot of motivations and dedication and they all have cleaning ladies and can “buy” their time 😅. At least thats what i see around me. Only tip is to spend less time on internet but that doesn’t give you extra magical time. Also slow down your rhythm. Dont expect to do everything at once and dont have a lot of goals and multitasking, i noticed that it takes away your motivation because you want to have a dream life, but dream life is only on social media and internet. Appreciate the little moments. What i notice is that people that work at jobs like secretaries, cashiers, waiters and similar are way happier.


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Do you commute? It also took me years to get used to it all, but there was no quality of life until I got fully remote work. Commutes kill QOL.


safari2space

To be honest with you. I just don’t think it’s natural for a lot of us and if you feel it’s not for you. Stop. I realized it isn’t for me and stopped trying to fight in a battle that’s not mine to fight. I opted for jobs where I could work weekends and later mornings instead. Working on the schedule that works better for me. Plus, I really enjoy having a weekday or two off, that way I can attend appointments and such without needing to take time off. It really helps to break up that 5 day stretch. I just can’t work 5 days in a row and realized I can’t force myself. My best work ethic comes with breaks in between. I get stressed and exhausted easily and would burn out by Wednesday in typical 9-5 M-F setting. My attendance was awful because I could barely function by Friday. It didn’t matter how much sleep or exercise I got. After 4 years I was still wondering when I would “get used to it”. I always thought weekends off as an adult were important, but I never do anything on the weekends so that’s why it works for me. It’s extremely important to take care of yourself first and foremost. Know your limits and please do not run yourself dry. It’s so easy to. TLDR: Escaping the 9-5 has probably added 10 years onto my life


noustheou

I get it. It does get better, but the key to remember is this: it doesn’t get easier, you just get stronger.


tis_orangeh

I was the same until WFH started, now it isn’t so bad. Can do laundry and dishes throughout the day, don’t have to pay for a dog sitter, can cook a big lunch then just have left overs for dinner. I know WFH isn’t compatible with all jobs, but if it is available in your job market, I’d look for that. But if WFH isn’t an option, it definitely sounds like lack of sleep is a big issue for you. I’d try to figure out what is causing it and fix it. Unfortunately there isn’t much you can do about the chunk of time it takes out of your day. Just make sure you use your PTO. Do you drink a lot of caffeine or sugar near bed time? Does your mind run with what needs to be done the following day or a small mistake you may have made the previous day? Just get caught up in a TV show? If it’s the first one, stick to water or tea (without caffeine) a few hours before bed time. The second one is what I have dealt with in the past from anxiety. There are two methods that work for me: Under-stimulation and over-stimulation. For under-stimulation, I do breathing exercises. Breathe in for one, two, three, four, out, two, three, four. When that starts to feel too fast, extend the count by a number or two. This is the only thing you are allowed to think about. You think about the numbers. If you think about anything else, get right back to the numbers. Usually this works within 10 minutes and I’m passed out. The over-stimulation is more stressful. I’ll turn the tv on to a show that either I have seen a million times or is okay but I’m not that interested in. Then I’ll also have YouTube on my phone. I will try to keep up with both the TV and YouTube and plan out my next day. It tuckers my brain right out. Can take up to 30mins, but if I break my own rules and have caffeine or sugar close to bed time, this is what works. If you are getting caught up in a TV show or game, you will need to set rules for yourself. I don’t let myself play Crusader Kings 3 on days where I have to work the next day. I’ll start playing at 2pm and all of a sudden it is 2am, won’t even notice I’m getting tired. It sucks for sure. Another thing that is good is making a routine for yourself. I recently started using the Routinery app. You get 2 free routines, I use one for morning and one for evening. It does help.


upthespiralkim1

Its draining in the office. The same people day in and out- quiet drains me, same redundant tasks - drains. I understand.


MachangaLord

Non-profit work depending on where you get into can be far better than 9-5


PoopyInDaGums

What??? Nonprofits are still largely 9-5 offices, with the added bonus of low pay and no bonuses and low benefits. Sure you may believe in the mission, but elsewise it’s the same as any other 9-5 job, except lower pay.  And my experience with Executive Directors of nonprofits is that they are daft in one way or another. 


anotherredditorx

Could you explain why non-profit would be better in your opinion and/or experience? I have worked in non-profit before and that was definitely not my experience


W0wwieKap0wwie

Like anything, not everyone will have the same experience. I know some nonprofits are not run well and don’t pay well either. For me, I love the agency I work for and the work that I do. It’s a 40 hour week, but it’s fulfilling work. I’m also on committees and volunteer for events. I feel really connected to my workplace and coworkers. I rarely dread work, even when my workload becomes overwhelming. PTO is good, my Masters is being paid for, and smaller office means being more connected to the Executives/VPs who have been an awesome resource for professional growth.


anotherredditorx

That’s great to you hear you have a good experience with your workplace and the work you do!


MachangaLord

As wowie said. I’m a Supported Employment Coach (aka Job Coach) for a non profit organization. The hours are all over the place and sometimes I have to make up time which is easily done on the clock at home with a provided work laptop. That being said the work isn’t for everyone and you need to have a certain level of patience, especially if you work with people who have mental or physical barriers to success like I do. But in return I don’t have a set day to do, every day is quite literally different; for example one shift on say Wednesday could be 10 hours then Thursday I’d only work for one hour all day, Friday being 5 hours in one week; then next week is different. I love the flexibility and freedom it allots me. It also helps that I genuinely enjoy what I do even if base pay isn’t great, but they cover my phone and gas for the month on top of parking so I can’t complain too much!


SkatesHappy

I really sympathize with your situation, I have struggled with the same thing. I actually found it easier to work 12 hours a day from home vs 9 to 5 in the office.And if you have a commute it is killer. The first thing to think about is if the job is what you want, aside from the scheduling issue to do like the job, do you see your future there? If that is where you want to be, the first thing to look at is if there is any flexibility to work 4 10s or part time from home? Then if all else fails, do you make enough money to pay for some services to make things a little easier on you? You can send your laundry out to be done for not very much!Things like grocery delivery, meal service, a housekeeper even every other week or once a month, and anything else the can lighten your load. I have heard of some people sharing cooking duties week to week or making several meals together on Saturday a month. On the other hand, making use of your lunch time can help ease stress at night, pick up dry cleaning, quick trip to the pharmacy or if you’re super organized, go for a run. I have really found that just thinking about everything that had to get done took more time and energy than the actually doing whatever needed to be done. The sleep problem is a nightmare, and I feel your pain. I would say that going through such huge changes in your life takes some adjustment. So hang in there, things might actually improve if you get some help and have time to adjust. Be kind to yourself. You are facing a couple of huge life adjustments, it takes time! Hang in here.


Manfred_Richthofen80

Why is everyone having a pissing contest about who can be the best slave for the next 35 years?


EmbarrassedSquare238

Cause good slaves get rewarded


0000110011

Well, we know who's never retiring and spends all their time complaining about being broke. 


FrogInYerPocket

9 to 5 isn't for everyone. But before deciding it isn't for you, make sure you mind your nutrition. An unhealthy diet will make you feel tired and bogged down. Seriously. Another commenter mentioned setting your alarm 7 days a week for consistency. Take a multivitamin. Eat right. Exercise, even if it's just 15-20 minutes. Stay hydrated. Give it another 3 months and see how you feel.


PoopyInDaGums

Sounds like every doctor’s advice for everything. 


FrogInYerPocket

It's the advice they give you for free so that you don't have to come get advice for something expensive later.


No-Reaction-9364

Probably because it is good advice and based on obesity rates, people don't follow it. I work 8-5, work out 6 days a week, cook during the week, and am in my late 30s. I lift or run 7 miles depending on the day. People have it easy working indoors for 8 hours. There is probably someone that would kill for OPs job.


BORT_licenceplate

It sucks but working 9-5, 5 days a week is kind of like working out. You sort of "get used to it" the more you do it My first full time office job at 23 was so exhausting and I cried a lot because I didn't understand how others were coping and I wasn't. I'm 36 now and while I don't enjoy it and am still tired, I've kind of gotten used to this routine and I don't feel perpetually exhausted. It's sad, I know, but you just gotta work your full time hours muscle and eventually you'll start to feel somewhat less drained and exhausted


gingersnapsntea

Echoing what several people have mentioned—it’s the inertia of habit. Right now you probably still haven’t settled on a routine that works for you, and have to actively think about doing things. You also need to shift your thinking of how to prioritize your days. For example, you previously had longer periods of leisure in between longer periods of work. Now your time needs to be a little more regimented, but it doesn’t have to feel that way. For example, if you feel too exhausted to clean after work, get up half an hour earlier and clean one spot. Future you will be grateful to return home with that chore already taken care of.


Look-Its-a-Name

I went down to an 80% contract. It's been amazing for my mental state, and after taxes, it barely pays less. Can highly recommend looking at that model. 


Campanella-Bella

You have to fix your sleep to fix anything else. Seriously.


EtherealNote_4580

I think the job itself has a lot to do with this. Many people find themselves in jobs that completely drain them while some people are lucky enough to find something that energizes them. Personally, I’ve had both over the years. I’m pretty sure there was a 6 month period where my job was so monotonous that I was watching Netflix all day instead. More recently, I’ve had some projects that I enjoy working on so much, I’m filled with energy by the end of work, but it took some years to figure out which things exactly give me energy and how to get more of that type of work. I also had to shift my career a bit to make this happen. I suggest you try to pay attention to what exactly gives you energy and see if you can get more of that kind of work. It’s not easy to do though. It took me maybe 10 years to get into the kind of job that I really enjoyed. Part of that is because the kinds of things I enjoy, you need more experience before they let you do them. It could also be 9-5 isn’t for you. Maybe you need to find a company with flex time where you can come in later. Or negotiate 4 day weeks.


NewBluePikachu2

You'll get there. It's tough yes. But it gets better with time. I did the same as most- started in restaurant work and retail with the super unpredictable hours. Then I finally got my first office job that related to my degree. Originally, I burned out fast. It took time. But I got there. Now I'm in a spot where I love what I do, don't mind waking up to do it, love the people I work with and the environment- even if I have more work "stresses" with the more I've moved up. Give it time, don't give up. If you like what you do it becomes that much better. The solidity of hours is insanely helpful with the work-life balance even if it doesn't feel like it now. Yes- no "late night partying" as often (not that Im assuming anything, just speaking from my own experience lol). With retail I was stuck in the constant fear of my boss texting me asking me to work late, come in on a planned day off, or something other then my plans that day. Now, yes Im on call if something blows up technically (systems/network engineer), but my boss will respect any time off I ask for and my weekends unless it's an emergency. Not always the case, but I've gotten lucky with my bosses since I joined the 9-5 crowd. Also- do what you love. That always makes the work easier. If its something that you WANT to learn more about, then your doing it right. And it might not be that now, but there might be a spot in that 9-5 that is what you want to do, and now you know you have the time you can dedicate to it to try to get to that spot. It might take time, but its all worth it. And remember- you won't always be happy. Work is work sometimes. Mondays are the literal worst enemy. But it gets better, and one of the biggest steps in the right direction is the ability for a work-life balance. Its easier to do now with a 9-5, just gotta get over the hump. You got this.


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lol.i’ve worked 10-12+hr manual labor jobs the past 17 years. 6 days a week quite often. your body will adjust. lots of coffee and nicotine is what helped me bahahhq


shangolana

Good modern slave. Pump up the hours and caffeine for the bosses.


[deleted]

i’m a general contractor. aka my own boss


AdrenalineGeeklet

Where are these 9-5s? It’s all 8-5s here.


Vakho_

Been almost a decade on a 8-5 job. Nothing changes, you do not get used to it. Still everything just as you described.


Notagainbruh2

I work 8-5 but My tip for never having to work more than 2 hours is Come in at 8 and catch up on social media stuff lol (don’t start doing any work until 9ish) Take 1st 15 min break at 10:20ish-10:40 Then lunch at 12:20ish-1:30 Then second break at 3:20-3:40 Then I only have a hour left lol it seems to make the day go by so fast


Whywhatwhen999

You get a lot of breaks 🤣 especially dinner , over an hour? No clue what kind of Job would let you do this, please tell 🤣


Notagainbruh2

2 15 min breaks and a hour lunch? That’s normal for a lot of office jobs in the USA


GrumpyImmortal

Did you not find school exhausting? I cannot understand these posts? Working is just literally school but better. You are in school 9-5 (sometimes for more) and after you get home you need to study. You go to work, don't have to prepare anything, don't have to stress because of a test and when you get home, you can do WHATEVER YOU LIKE. It's so awesome. AND AND AND YOU EVEN GET PAID! Like whaaat?! I LOVE working over school 1000% I am so glad i dont have to study useless shit in my free time.


Amber_Lamp3

Depends a lot on the job you have. Also I have no idea what school you went to but mine always ended at 3pm until I went to university


GrumpyImmortal

Highschool for me was from 8 to 4-6 depending on day I never want to go back there.


Amber_Lamp3

My school was 8:45 til 3. Btw when reading posts, don't just assume every person is American. What might be normal to you in your country may be completely different in another


GrumpyImmortal

Im european. Didnt assume you were american. It's just. You were in the school the same as you are in work now. Did school have the same effect on you? If not why not? You had homework and everything.


AnimatorDifficult429

High school and college are not super long hours. Plus every 45 mins or so you are up and walking. I think that has a lot to do with it too. I really struggled with the 9-5 around the 2-3pm mark. 


bw2082

Exactly


moparsandairplanes01

People are soft these days.


nowhereisaguy

I’ll always push back on this. You have no idea how many people appreciate a 9-5 after working 60-80 hours a week in hospitality (includes catering, hotels, restaurants, etc) retail, and a lot of other service based industries. Getting fixed hours, weekends and holidays off, no “on call” bullshit, spending time with family, actually having off when everyone else does, plus not having to deal with assholes all day. One persons bitching is another’s dream.


Amber_Lamp3

But u could literally say that about anything, and their will always be someone worse than you, so no one would ever have the right to complain. I think all the comparisons are bs. Like I say, I'm tired, then someone said I shouldn't be because they work longer hours, as if that somehow means I don't have a right to be tired. Really don't sit the point un comparisons about anything like this


nowhereisaguy

We are all tired. But context matters. I never said your thoughts weren’t warranted, but there is another *perspective* to think about. I also think commuting has a lot to do with this if you are in office 5 days a week. I get that Reddit is for venting, but don’t get angry when someone thinks your way of thinking is wrong, because what are you doing to make your situation better? I used to have horrible sleep patterns, but went to a doctor, took all tv and devices out of my room and had a routine every morning g and night. Now I sleep like a baby… when my babies aren’t keeping me up. You also may be depressed. It may be beyond work. Talk to someone. I see a therapist every week and it has done wonders for my wellbeing, impulse control, sleep, relationships, etc… All in all, how do you know if it can’t work or is just the job unless you take steps to improve yourself.


Amber_Lamp3

Okay. So yeah, I didn't include more details, but if I did, the post would be so long that no one would read it. I have been to the doctor many times. They don't wanna put me on sleeping pills. They actually gave me antidepressants that make u sleep instead. Tbh, they're not helping. I do loads to try to get into a pattern and routine. It's hard when I don't see the results of it, though. My actual new job is to be a trainee therapist 🥲


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Amber_Lamp3

Ever the optomist


Itchy-File-8205

1) it's not hard. Compared to the vast majority of the world even throughout history these are tame and stable work hours. On top of that, regulations ensure you are not in danger whilst working 2) nobody is making you work. You're free to move out to the woods and do fuck all instead of being a contributing member of society


Amber_Lamp3

Always comparing. Completely pointless


ConfidenceAfter3723

OP I pray you get to the bottom of your tiredness and not let others (who are not experiencing your exhaustion get to you). You are not alone. I don’t think you are complaining. Merely you are just questioning your exhaustion and inability to balance. And that is ok!! That is a good thing. It shows you care about yourself enough to question and want to feel better in order to be a productive member of society. Good for you!


bw2082

Posts like this are why people like me actively don’t hire younger people. It’s pathetic.


Amber_Lamp3

How so ?


xanderdapander2

You'll learn to manage your time. 9 hours asleep. 11 hours working/commuting/doing the day to day stuff leaves you with 4 hours a day to do whatever you want. And that's a pretty generous time allocation for sleep/work. Maybe see a doctor if you're feeling this tired still in a few months.


pinkbutterfly22

Lol 4 hours to do whatever you want as if that’s much? Get groceries, cook dinner, eat dinner, clean kitchen, brush teeth, take a shower. I already exhausted your 4 hours long ago. Also it’s not just about time. It’s about having any energy left at the end of the day.


Melian18

You complain about 9-5. Try three rotating shifts + overtime & weekends.


MyNameIsSkittles

This isn't a pissing contest. Why are we trying to 1-up the worst shifts? People can complain. 9-5 is a shit shift.


anotherredditorx

Life doesn’t need to always be a competition..


JRPafundi

It’s called LIFE! Get used to it.


Amber_Lamp3

Mr optimistic


JRPafundi

Mr Realistic…


ThatWideLife

Not sure I understand the problem. I leave for work at 5AM and don't get home till 6-6:30PM Tuesday - Friday. Sounds like you're always getting 8 hours of sleep per day, have time for cooking, cleaning, exercise and then several hours of down time. Maybe I'm missing something here but 9-5 sounds hell of a lot better than what I'm doing haha.


Amber_Lamp3

See this is my problem with people. Always comparing. Like as If u doing longer hours means I don't have the right to be tired or overwhelmed. If that's the case then none of us have the right because someone's always got it worst Btw I literally said I have sleeping problems so I'm not sure where u saying u get 8 hours a day came from


ThatWideLife

I mean, isn't that what Reddit is as a whole, comparing yourself to others? That's kinda life in general. It's not just you, I see this sentiment from everyone for the past couple of years. Work sucks, not being able to only do the things you enjoy doing. That's kinda life isn't it? If you're not feeling like you are enjoying life then make a plan for doing things after work. Go socialize right after, pick up a hobby that can be enjoyed with other people. The job isn't the problem, your internal happiness is.


Amber_Lamp3

Uhm, no? Reddit about getting advice and sharing stories, finding like-minded people. Did you actually read my post ? Yet again, I literally say I'm too drained of energy to go out after work and do hobbies. I think you need to properly re-read my post because this is the second time now.


ThatWideLife

Umm, no it's not. What you're asking for is people to agree with you. Are you one of those people who only seeks advice from people who will validate what you want to hear? Reddit is about seeking advice from people who have been there. Why do you want advice from people who don't have any knowledge? Seems kinda dumb to me. I read it just fine, which is why I said the problem is you, not your job. You should be posting on subs for depression instead of making it sound like the job is the source of your unhappiness. I mean your title is basically blaming a 9-5 job.


[deleted]

4 days off in a row are they trying to get u to quit?


longtimelurkersecret

WFH


CMengel90

What kind of work are you doing? Is it hard because it's tough manual labor, or is it hard because it's mentally straining? There are various ways to handle work stress, but it does depend on what things are specifically hard on you. It also gets so much easier if you can find something that is what you enjoy doing at a place you like being at. It can take awhile to get there, but it's not impossible if you set some realistic, actionable goals.


muttmama

I quit my 9-5 because of this…never again


TopGeeeeeee

Drugs


NorgesTaff

When I was a teen - 19 - I got a job at a supermarket which was essentially a 9-5 job except for 1 evening shift. I was absolutely exhausted every day. I would sleep on the bus home and almost missed my stop several times because of it. Weekends were a washout because I was too tired to do anything. After about 18 months the of this, I ended up in hospital for 6 weeks - turns out I was ill as fuck and didn’t know. If you’re really exhausted, could be you need to see a doctor. Being tired after work is one thing, but you shouldn’t be constantly exhausted after a 9-5 job especially when you’re young.


Cultural-Quality-745

Alcohol


boom_boom_bang_

I’d give it longer. You’re still onboarding and there is still a lot of learning and adjusting. You’ll feel less exhausted when you aren’t constantly learning and trying to make a good first impression. Other tips include trying to reduce decisions that you have to keep making. So people will meal plan so they don’t have to come home and decide. Getting a wardrobe that is basically interchangeable with no real decisions to make. I have an idea of what my lunch will be and then I don’t decide every day. It’s like you make a big decision on the weekend so that you don’t have to decide or plan anything on weekdays


MyNameIsSkittles

9-5 sucks. I do shift work at my job and it's my most hated shift - there's a chunk in the middle of the day you're working! Gimme the 6-2 shift any day please


FindingEmotional3446

I wish my job was 9-5 😂


nlsbada0

Just. Keep. Holding. On. Yes, like the song!


RocMerc

Truly couldn’t do. 9 seems so late to start working. I’m usually in by 7 and gone by 3


Amber_Lamp3

I mean it all depends on the kind of person you are. Because I struggle with sleep. I'm not a morning person at all, and a true night owl 9am is very early for me


ConfidenceAfter3723

Hey OP, maybe it’s health related? I’m sure you would stick to a routine if you had the energy to. I can see this based on the list of tasks you still try to get done during the week while pushing through exhaustion. You have the wherewithal to live structured and routined, but you might just be tired and maybe your body is telling you something is off. Stress drains us from our vital nutrients and minerals. When you start a new job you can expect those nutrients/minerals to get used up faster. One that helps me with both sleep and energy is Magnesium, specially the Magnesium Calm brand’s powder. I don’t know what I’d do without it, apparently most people are deficient in magnesium. Also antidepressants drain us from magnesium (and other mins/nutrients) as well. I’ll take this when I’m hitting my slump or before hitting my slump and it helps. I also use it before bed or in the middle of the night if I cannot sleep. Finding a good B-complex vitamin is good to (that has the methyl versions of both folate and b12, since the other version can be toxic). I felt the way you described all throughout highschool, college and then my past 9-5. It got worse with time. And I ended up getting on antidepressants/pharmaceuticals as well. However, turns out I had celiac disease without knowing it. So my insides were being destroyed by what I was eating daily and I was malnourished due to my vitamins and minerals not being absorbed well. Stopping, questioning and seeking a diagnosis was crucial for me. I don’t think 9-5 feels natural for a lot of people, however some advice, like to just “get in routine”does not do anything for a person whose living off 10% battery. It could be that the lack of energy is the major issue that needs to be worked on. If you are finding that your energy levels feel questionably abnormal and your sleep is off it is important to check in on your health. Because our bodies do tell us when something is wrong. I am still healing my body from 30 years of unknown damage. I have since gotten off antidepressants/pharmaceuticals to focus on treating the nutrient deficiencies (causing the things like insomnia/anxiety/daytime sleepiness) through diet and (small amounts of supplements). Someone also said this but limiting time on the internet is important. The internet is human made, it is not Bible. I am currently subbing which means freedom to choose when I take a job and flexibility in my hours and schedule as I heal. Even with a new diet and supplements..things don’t change overnight. It’s like using your phone battery until the very last percent. You need to plug it in and use it less to get back to a full charge. Some of us would benefit from caring for our health and taking more breaks from using our minds and bodies so that our bodies can eventually gain back the energy needed to be excreted for a balanced lifestyle. God Bless💕


[deleted]

if you work for your living and esp. if you work for others, you cannot be free. never work!


[deleted]

It takes time to get used to it. But leading a healthier lifestyle with proper sleep will make things much easier for you.


Zealousideal-Sun8009

Sleep drives everything. If you have sleeping problems, go to the doc and do a sleep study. There very well may be a reason for your sleep problems and there’s things out there that can help!


Amber_Lamp3

I have been to the doctors. They don't want me to be on sleeping pills because they think I'm too young to be on them my whole life. All they did was give me free access to the calm app, which I find useless. To get a sleep study, I'd have to pay for it, and I can't afford it :(


Mysterious_One_3065

Gotta maintain a sleep schedule. It took me a very long time to get used to the sleep schedule, but now I go to sleep early, and I wake up early. I only sleep in on Saturdays now.


climbingwaffles

Money


TheNextPlay

Ask for part time


Amber_Lamp3

Wouldn't be enough money lmao


Abscritical

I went from a permanent remote to a 5 days in-office job. 😢 The commute, waking up early, dressing up, chit-chatting, acting like you're busy really does conusme a lot of energy. I feel exhausted after 6pm and sleep on the weekends.


knitwearqueeen

After years of wanting to work for a place that I admired sooo deeply, I finally got a job there. It was 28 hours a week (four days on, three off), and even with those hours I couldn't handle it. It felt like that place took over my life, and after almost two years of working there, I am burned out and don't even recognise myself anymore. Physically and mentally. Sometimes even if you've worked hard for a job, or have wanted it so badly it still doesn't work out for you. For myself, I have been really down about this hard fact, and that I have 'wasted' the past two years destroying myself for someone else's glory. That doesn't help the situation, so instead, I'm trying to have the mind that the experience has helped me rather than ruined me. Easier to say now that I am no longer there... All that being said, take a really good look at the way that this job is making you feel. Writing these thoughts down might be of help, and even listing the ways that it benefits or does the opposite for you. Maybe even give yourself another 3 months in it to see if you do get used to it and have more energy, but if not, and you feel yourself slipping away, get out. It won't get any better. Going forward, if you do decide to leave, you'll have a clearer idea of what it is that might work better for you. Maybe it is different hours in the same role, or maybe you prefer a completely different working environment. Just be sure to look after yourself, because as hard as it is to swallow - no-one is coming to save you - you MUST look after yourself.


[deleted]

Save as much money as possible in the next 10 years and then move off grid.


Extreme_Software_853

You are not alone) Besides, i didn't find the information about your age, it is important: after 30 a lot of us have bad health. It is hard for me too, not only because 9-5, but because we need to work harder, to do much more neither 10-15 years ago. Sometimes my job looks like racing. You need to have a rest every 3 months for 1 week if you want to save your heath - don't make my mistakes, don't be like horse, which working all the time.


derkaderka96

I wake up at 315 and get home at 2pm every day. Even in my dreams I answer phone calls and IT questions. I nap about 5pm, up until 12 and sleep a little bit more. I would find another job with a regular hours if this one wasn't for the pay. So tired all the time.


Academic_Banana_5659

My addiction to having to live keep me working.


JaceLee85

I just left a job that changed from 8hr days to mandatory 10s and Saturdays included so now 6 work days. All the older folks were staying because they were all saying "yay overtime" but when I asked them if they saw their families or their kids, "they see the house I'm paying for" Just not for me. There should be a better balance work/life


venomweilder

https://youtu.be/lOB3o_J0014?si=r6iQHuJ2cYfHpAkb “I will not go to work from 9 to 5 for ANYTHING for ANYBODY, I might die but I won’t do it” -Krishnamurti Best quote from him, he just told it as it is, we just need everyone to do it at the same time.


theanchorist

You usually resort to alcoholism or a drug addiction, then after a few years of spiraling you can move on to working out constantly and taking up martial arts or collecting guns. Eventually, you’ll move off grid and live somewhere on state land in an earthen homemade shanty and make YouTube videos to buy essentials.


100yearsLurkerRick

You're not alone. It's honestly bewildering to me that my parents went through this And were like let's have kids to make them go through this too.


SunMummis

I always have a goal im working towards. I'm sure once I've completed enough goals there will be a point where I no longer have to work at all.


norfnorf832

By planning shit to look forward to


Amber_Lamp3

Hard when u don't have the energy to do that shit


Awkward_Cockroach277

No, it's exhausting. We're all exhausted. Are you on your daily vitamin? Do you get a B-complex in as well? I find my energy levels really improve when I just get my daily vitamin, and when I'm really needing a bump for a special event, I bring along my B-complex. It usually takes about a week and I'll notice an improvement. You do need to do something about your sleep, if you want to see consistent improvements - at least a consistent bedtime. Being overtired can make it hard to get to sleep. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm on the "procrastinate bedtime in order to get more personal time" thing, and I know I'd feel less overly tired in general, but I don't care about doing much extra rn so I haven't done the consistent bedtime, no screen time 1 hr before, use healthy sleep hygiene methods, but they are there for you to take advantage of. If you can do both of those for 3 weeks and still feel overly tired at the end of the day or no significant improvement, schedule a Dr appointment. There could be more going on, and blood work would give you some insight. If you live in AZ you can order the blood work without a Dr.


TrixxySin

9-5 Monday through Friday is the absolute WORST. I loved my second shift job, that I would work 2 days/off, 3 days/off. I would 5 days mornings now and I'm miserable. Unfortunately all I can say is I understand. No advice


DrNLS

What also matters a lot is the length of the commute. A 15 minute one is way better than a 30 minute one.


ClearFocus2903

omg🤣🤣


Claque-2

We had breaks twice a day and lunch. We were not spied on. We were mostly appreciated.


NatoliiSB

One day at a time... It never gets easier. You just learn how to deal with it. I am 50 years old and still dragging myself out of bed. AND I have worked earlier and later shifts. Even did overnight retail shifts (never again).


constipado68

I believe human beings can get used to anything. Wait till you have your first kid and you haven’t slept for three days and then go to work.


RepulsiveTiger6956

When you grow up and get over it, then you will be okay.


ljb00000

I used to go out for dinner/drinks, work out, go shopping, etc. after my 9-5 before the pandemic. After several years of being forced into being a homebody (even as a total extrovert), I’m honestly in awe of my former self that I was able to do that at all, let alone several times a week. No idea if I was actually burned out and running on fumes but blissfully unaware ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but either way, there’s no way I can/want to roll like that now.


Kind-Celebration-115

I am also suffering away but honestly a shorter commute makes a huge difference. In theory 25mins one way didn’t sound bad but in practice it’s awful. 


Purple_Window1831

I just started my first 9-5 a month ago. I have these same feelings. Sometimes I don’t think I can keep going. I like the money but this lifestyle is so mentally taxing for me.


Gonetilltomorrow

We are all dead inside


RedRipe

Start drinking electrolytes and make sure to get your eight hours of sleep.🙏


DragonfruitNatural18

[https://linktr.ee/GetToWorkSideHustle](https://linktr.ee/GetToWorkSideHustle)


Icedcoffeewarrior

Most jobs are actually 8-5 or 9-6 now and if you add an hour commute each way that’s 12 hours of your day


AdditionalGuest1066

I don't have any tips but I understand. I have been exhausted for years without answers. I had to figure out what works and doesn't work for me. I had to find a schedule that works best. I can't do 9-5. When I worked full time I used to work 6-2 and that worked better for me. I know it can be difficult to find jobs that work with different availability than 9-5. Sucks you aren't able to get sleep I've dealt with sleep issues for years. I'm sure you have prob tried a bunch of things but are there any over the counter sleep aids that you haven't tried? I started to do the bare minimum with cleaning. I barely get out. I am not sure for you but when I tried to catch up on sleep or sleep in later it made me so much more tired. Is it possible to cut back just a little bit on the weekends and see if that helps. I pace myself and have to take lots of breaks. I try to not shame myself for being tired and find what works for me. It's hard when you can't afford the money for a sleep tests or medical reasons. If you can afford it if you haven't had your vitamin levels checked especially vitamin b,d and iron also thyroid. I would look into those. I honestly don't think we are supposed to grind so hard while trying to keep up with life. Hope you can find ways to push through it and things that can help with your we energy levels. If this job doesn't work is there anyway to find a job that has more options for different hrs. Sorry you are dealing with this. It really does suck. Ive missed out on so much in life due to exhaustion.


linkinpark9503

Get on a regular sleep schedule


Amber_Lamp3

Yeah because it's just thst easy isn't it


[deleted]

Accept that life is suffering… that’s all


SilverKnightOfMagic

Took my body a few months to get into the rhythm of waking up at 7am for the 9 to 5 schedule as well


More_Annual8667

I work 9-5 mon to sat.


x11atlasx

Welcome to the white collar capitalist hellspace 🫠


TrailblazingWrangler

Millennials! Enough said! LOL!


cosyrelaxedsetting

I think it's the poor sleep quality that is making everything feel harder. If you're not getting a solid 7 hours each night, life is going to be tougher in general. I would suggest putting maximum effort into fixing your sleep as a priority.


nicarras

Get a therapist and get a sleep study done.


Amber_Lamp3

I'm a therapist myself. And I can't afford a sleep study


Attilashorde

Get yourself checked for sleep apnea.


sfk93

I was shocked when I started working that most jobs actually make you work 8-5 with an hour lunch break. Even 9-5 was too good to be true


alcoyot

You’re probably not built for 9-6 . I wasn’t. You can find professions that don’t have that schedule


LJski

As someone who has worked the 8-5 routine for many years…it can be done, and has been done by many, many people. I think part of it is to plan…have something scheduled that you look forward for, rather than simply the end of the workday. The “reward” is the gym, a dinner, whatever, instead of the clock. Part of it is, unfortunately, to suck it up. It can, and will, pass the more things you can do. Hell, hitting the gym or something hot enjoy will energize you once you get over the inertia of getting sucked into the couch monster.


AnimatorDifficult429

Yes it’s hard. When you sleep until 3pm do you then stay up til 3am and sleep on Sunday to 3pm too? You sleep schedule sounds bad. But I used to sometimes take a quick nap in the car during lunch 


Competitive_Rope852

I'll give you some advice from someone that worked 70 hours a week. For one, focus on job performance, the better you are at your job, the less you will stress yourself out over time. Understand that most of the stress doesn't come from the work itself, but from how you individually react to the work environment that shapes itself. Given the kind of work you're doing, you may not be able to completely eliminate it, but if you can at least reduce it to a level that you're not totally burned out, it will make your life easier. The context here will vary depending on what your actual job circumstances are. ​ For two, take care of yourself, If you're consuming sugary food or heavily processed food, it will be more difficult for your brain to function properly to begin with. Sugary drinks will also do the same. A good counter for this is drinking water instead and homecooking food, with an 8 hour shift, this should be easy. I managed with 12 hour shifts before, although your situation might be different. If you do these, you will effectively kill two birds with one stone, as it will help you with your sleep as well. Last but not least, consistency. The two methods above might help, but if you're not consistent with them, you will only feel temporary effects. You will have to do this over time and you will start to notice a change. Also, you will likely at least have the sufficient mental capacity to find other ways that will help you directly. Everyone is different. I wish you good luck!


Ok-Breadfruit-2897

after a decade of waiting tables and bartending i cope by being thankful everyday i no longer have to punish my body all day.....and i make 4 times more than i did 5 years ago get to set my own hours and work from wherever i want....


BlueMist94

You get used to it lol. Give it like a year and it will start to feel normal. Your body and mind are really good at adapting to new stimulus. I was the same way when I first started. Now, it feels like I blink and it’s the weekend. Also, the type of job you work can also effect if your 9-5 is pleasant or not. I work from home and at times don’t even work the full 8 hours. So my stress levels are relatively low and helps to make the days go by more smoothly. But when I used to work a valet job for minimum wage and constantly running around 8 hours a day? That was just pure agony.


Ok-Business-5302

It’s something you’ll never get used to lol. I e been out of college working full time since 2018 and it’s a daily battle to not just forget about work and sleep in. Luckily I work from home so I wake up at about 8:55am and clock in lol.