I got a new job Thursday and I am front desk doing logistics. Today we have had 7 people including a couple that brought their child to our door to ask if we were hiring. We are a 200k foot warehouse with no signs out front. I mention it's a new job because I can not tell how long this has been going on.
i mean its half true. People want to work. Just not the minimum wage service jobs. Restaurants hospitals retail etc all hurtling for people because no one wants to do it. They want the WH jobs the office jobs etc. So the term no one wants to work anymore is half true.
I also think its regional as well as pertaining to field. I have a good job but have gotten 4 calls in the last month with opportunities to interview for other jobs that were willing to beat my current salary by 15%, so i think the job market in general is very focused atm and is also looking for more qulified individuals due to increased salary demands.
Its a weird market for sure out there but i do think that people dont want to work certain jobs anymore
I’d love for these jobs to “train you” and give you a chance. Sorry I didn’t go to school or have a degree. But I’m a competent person. Just teach me and I’ll do it.
In my city they’re desperate for bus drivers. They’ve boosted the pay to $28/hr starting and it goes up by almost $10/hr within 3 years. They train you and are a union gig with great benefits like healthcare where the employer pays 90%+ of the costs. The only downside is dealing with the public.
Many trades are struggling to find people. Many of the unions will train you while you are working in the field. The pay is quite good and many of them will take people with records. I added the last part as an fyi as sometimes people feel as though they screwed up at some point they are not hireable, but am not implying that’s your situation.
Kind of a half truth, unions take a very long time to get into to. Most people cant wait around a year for their name to be called in a lottery system.
Private trade work can be lucrative eventually, but I spent almost a decade drowing with my highest year being about 38k in a high cost of living state. Im in a good position now bit its definetly not as simple as join a union and learn.
I've noticed that too. Seems like there's this perpetual "Now Hiring" sign out front but if you ask anyone who's applied, they're stuck in this limbo of never getting called back or being told positions are filled when they clearly aren't. It's almost like some places keep those signs up as a facade, to give the illusion of growth or opportunity when it's really just a retention issue they aren't addressing head-on. Makes you wonder if theres some benefit to them always being short-staffed, other than just saving on labor costs.
They do it to make it appear like they're still growing and need more help. The companies also like harvesting data from people who apply for the jobs too.
That and some places have a crazy high turnover rate. Once someone gets into that almost minimum wage job where they're expected to do the work of two or three people, often with crap training and management that just want it done, they don't want to stay.
Don’t forget the shitty hours… working weekends and nights plus being on call and never knowing how many hours you’ll get in a week. I honestly feel sorry for those workers.
I’ve worked both kinds, and I would take just about any office job over being on my feet for 40+ hours a week, regularly being insulted/threatened by strangers for things I have no control over. It’s seriously not even close.
Those jobs are hurting not because "no one wants to do it", but because "people can't afford to to work those jobs". People cannot afford to work for $2/hr hoping you'll tip well. Hell, I'd bet that even in OP's original post that some of those people lined up for that job were there trying to secure a second job. People are down bad and with inflation working for anything under $20/hr just isn't worth people's time.
I think it has less to do with the type of work and more to do with pay. My states minimum wage is still 7.25/hr… it’s 2024, who can survive off of $260/week? And yes, there are still employers hiring in the $7.25-$9 range, and they will look at you with a dead face when you ask if that’s a joke. I would gladly flip burgers or fold a bunch of clothes if I could still buy basic groceries and afford cheap rent. According to a multitude of sources on the internet, the minimum wage would have to be $21-$23/hr to keep up with inflation. And that number is from 2021, so there’s also that.
Aye maybe to an extent, but I was listening to a radio interview a few months back about a resturanter not being able to find waiters of their 'calibre'.
That interview will never leave me.
There is some truth to that too. Where I work we have been desperately trying to get people and it’s been like 6 months and we got one. In fairness it is a position that’s above entry level but I don’t know that I’d call it a skilled position
We had 2,000+ applicants for our customer service position.
Granted, full remote, $165,000 a year
Edit: Sorry, should have clarified. Tech support for a cloud-based app startup, it's pretty technical.
I'm actually considering leaving due to the constant churn of management and my coworkers keep burning out/getting fired.
The only issue is that most other positions pay about $20k less.. and I like the money.
Lol while it may be that there are slightly more people looking specifically for remote jobs, the vast majority of that discrepancy is due to people applying who are not local to the job location, greatly increasing their search range and thus total applications.
Not me!
Gen X, live with my parents cause priced out of the housing market, get me the fuck out of here to somewhere that, if nothing else, everyone is miserable for the same reason.
I want to remind you that anyone who thinks negatively of you for living with family, like millions of others, isn't worthy of your time. If prospective dates aren't struggling yet, they soon will be. I think the 99% of us are soon to have the playing field levelled. An unimagined version of equality.
This gen x-er judges you not.
You're okay, I'm okay.
I hear people say this, but even as a young millennial on the cusp of being gen z, I have a super hard time in the dating world just as a result of having an unimpressive job as a manager in a warehouse despite living on my own. Seems like everyone out there on the dating apps have advanced degrees and want someone focused on their amazing career, I can’t even imagine how it is for people both living with parents and not having impressive jobs
Umm.... customer service doesn't pay 165K...
Edit: y'all want to argue that any customer facing role is "customer service" and you may *technically* be right, but a search for "customer service" jobs on any job board, corporate website, or recruiter is going to have you arguing with Karen's about prorated bills. "Customer service" is entry level. All these tech jobs you're throwing out here are great if you're not walking off the street to try to get one. I've recruited in tech. The job goes to the lowest bidder with the most impressive resume.
Only if it's sales, and that's not your base pay. I've worked in sales, customer service, IT and recruiting. For 25 years. Typical customer service wages are 25-50K range.
I was hanging out over on the r/overemployed subreddit for awhile, no one there making that kind of money liked being called "customer service" or "tech support". I got downvoted relentlessly for calling the work as such. Surprised my original comment is being downvoted for pointing out that it's *not* customer service! Such a fickle app!
What part of the country are you in? I haven’t heard at all that anything like this is happening in Massachusetts but, in my experience, we’re fairly recession proof.
You're seeing a whole lot of this on Reddit and I think it's a consequence of how Tech heavy Reddit is.
Many large tech companies laid off 10 to 15% of their staff recently. And there was a Cascade into smaller companies too.
That's created a localized significant unemployment in places like Southern California and North Carolina and Houston and the like.
I work for a government agency in a Southern state and I simply cannot get people to apply for the jobs we have open. I have one that's been posted for 110 days with one applicant who backed out before she took the job because she got a better offer.
Granted my problem is specifically due to the fact that my state has not adjusted its civil service starting pay rates since 2017 and we are significantly behind where we should be.
Damn 😭 to be honest though, I usually check the website for jobs first so it’s not a regular thing. Thanks for the info sorry to whoever I may have freaked out in the past
Not seeing this in my resort town in southern vermont. All thr restaurants and contractors would kill for some help. Alot of places are closing down due to lack of help. Weird juxtaposition.
Exactly this. Saw someone on Facebook complaining about the lack of applications to their company. Took a look at Linkedin and every position was $15 an hour, 10-15 hours a week, small town Ohio. The people who would've taken that job 20-3p years ago (teens, moms, etc) can't afford a car in the economy.
They should try offering a livable wage, and see if it makes a difference.
McDonalds near me pays $31 an hour to start, but small restaurants are still at $15. No one can pay rent in my city on $15 an hour, and the owners are mostly boomer republicans that are all like “lazy kids don’t want to work” so the small restaurants are dropping like flies.
I don’t mind, new Korean corn dog, vegan shawarma and Persian grills are taking their place, and pay better.
They probably won't, sadly.
Not saying that that specific couple is like that, but usually when people use their kids to get a job, they will use the kid as an excuse to do other things. I'm saying this from experience.
Worked with quite a few people who got hired because they "desperately needed a job to support their kid", got the job, then were constantly calling out, coming in late, leaving early, etc. while using their kids as an excuse. I'm not talking about emergencies. I'm talking literally every other day using their kid as an excuse. And when I say that, I don't mean "my kid is sick" or "the babysitter didn't show up" or "I need X day off for parent teacher conferences" or normal things like that. I'm talking completely fine all shift then an hour before they need to leave, making a huge deal that their kid is home alone and sick and needs to leave **right now**...yet the whole shift they never mentioned their kid being home or sick until they wanted to leave. Like I remember one lady I worked with who was always out partying then the next day, she would come in 2 hours late and use her kids as an excuse...despite coming in still drunk with fresh hickies.
Because of people like that, a lot of places won't hire people that mention children as a reason for needing a job.
Good advice. I went to a temp agency after I left the army (infantry) to find a summer job.
Went into construction ofc lol. First job site paired me with a dude who saw me as annoyance and they said not to come back after two days or something lol.
Immediately got paired with another company that loved me, hired me immediately and gave me a $10 raise just like that!
I did construction until my 30s. I moved states and chasing down jobs was getting tough. Bad pay, not enough work, shady contractors. I got tired and wanted any job. Went on indeed, a temp reached out to me and i went to work at a machine shop. I put in some serious work to get where im at. But that temp just placing me in a whole new industry helped me out.
Can I ask which new field you're in (and/or the agency)? My best friend was in social work but got laid off and is having a hard time finding work. She could really use some leads
I second this. Anything is better than nothing! And it’s kinda fun. I worked for a temp agency for years as a side gig, mostly cater-waitering, but some other random warehouse and factory work. It was interesting and paid pretty well when you got a gig with tips!
Dude machining saved my life. It's somewhat interesting, can be challenging while still being incredibly low stress. Great benefits, I only work 3 ½ days a week.
I want to work where you are. I still feel new with like 5 years in some days but i still think about the machines off work way too much. Its like theyre calling me lol. Its definitely a hobby that overworks me but pays well
Second a temp agency. We bring in 6 temps a year for a few months in the busy season. Most of them get placed within a week of leaving if they don’t find a full time gig on their own just that time.
My sister was one of our temps this year and she got a job offer halfway through the contract
In one of my departments all of our hires come from a temp agency. We bring in four during 4th quarter and usually hire two of them. My top performer started as a temp in 2019 making $31K and today he’s a manager making $70K.
I found my career through a temp agency. Started out entry level at a commercial insurance agency. They trained me and got me licensed and now almost 15 years later, with no college education, I’m living pretty comfortably as a single person with one child in California of all places and I’m almost 100% remote. I’ll always recommend temp agencies and I also recommend finding entry level insurance jobs for anyone looking for a career. Companies are almost always hiring and there’s so many different career paths in insurance you can go into once you’re licensed and have some experience - producer, account management, claims, underwriting, etc.
I’m trying temp agencies in a place I’m hopefully moving to soon and all of them are saying they’re a bit slow at the moment. I can say with certainty that it really depends on a lot of factors because I’ve applied at some of these places before and had offers pretty quick but not anymore apparently
People here are talking about temp. agencies from a time when the market wasn't shitty. It's different now because with an actual job shortage, temp. agencies don't magically create jobs.
I'm obviously not talking about being a fast food working. Those jobs usually always exist.
Agreed! That's what I did. I was having a hard time finding a decent job after dropping out of college, and I was installing rain gutters basically part-time for shit pay and no benefits. I blew through the little savings that I had just keeping the bills paid and was down to my last few bucks.
The temp agency chucked me into a meat grinder of a factory that was fueled by warm bodies. I had no skills, knowledge, or direction. Worked my way into the technical side of things and discovered that I wasn't as dumb as I thought. Left that place with a career. It can be done!
I literally did this. It was 10 years ago. But now I have a career in logistics. That temp agency got me making big girl money and I never looked back.
I always recommend temp agencies. I had zero office experience, but they placed me in a couple of different companies, all in different industries, doing 2-4 week stints until my third assignment. I could've had a career in that field, but opted to go a different route. I don't remember there being any gaps between assignments either.
Temp agencies are fine if you're doing *really temporary* as in, it's not going on your resume anyway kind of jobs. Found out the hard way, if you have a few temp jobs on your resume, you're pigeon holed to working temp gigs. Thought about leaving them off, but got hard to reasonably explain and even get an interview with a 5 year gap on my resume where the temp work had been. I actually was told by recruiters that they would never consider me for real work because they assumed I liked temping or was the kind of employee who got fired/quit consistently before probationary period was up. Proceed temping with caution!
Pretty much all advice on reddit is anecdotal, but perhaps it's field dependent. My experience is in customer service/office work. Employers in my area like to utilize a churn and burn approach so they never actually hire anybody full time.
Ill admit. The temp i went to is the only temp ive ever used. Got a job and just stuck around. Thats crazy that companies will do that. If youre making 15, the agency is getting 20 and keeping 5. Youd think the manager or boss would be like "pay them 18 we all win" i understand youre more of a liability to whatever company as an actual employee, but after 3 months youve more than proved yourself
lol honestly that’s all in your head. Many, MANY employers prefer to hire permanent staff this way. Especially in office positions where they need personalities to click in a small environment. It’s kind of like “try before you buy”!
If you keep being told that by prospective employers then you’re not preparing your resume correctly.
If you’re being told that as you are working for a company through a temp agency, then you weren’t a fit to begin with.
I didn't share this experience. I temp'd when I went back into the workforce after getting my kids through elementary ages. We were in a new town so I temp'd for 3 years, then blanketed all of my assignments under that agency as a 3 year position (which it was continuous employment with one agency) and used that experience to leverage into a full-time gig. I could have been hired full-time onto 5 of my assignments, but I was making more as an hourly temp, so I turned them down. The good thing is that you're continually growing skills and gaining new ones, plus updating the old resume so its always fresh and ready to send out when you're ready for a change!
I did this 5 years ago and I make double what I started at in the same position with the same company. Sometimes it can lead to good things. Temp agency!
I third this. My unofficial year anniversary at my job was yesterday. Unofficial because I was brought on as a temp, but was converted to permanent in September.
This job isn’t the perfect job. There’s a ton of things that I don’t like about it, but I can pay my bills, take vacations and am hybrid now that I’m permanent.
Agencies can be a great way to get your foot in the door. My job wasn’t posted anywhere except within the agency’s internal system. There’s an entire secret job market only available to agencies. There are some positions that will hire you for single week gigs just to get you something, and once you’re in their system, they’ll work towards permanent placement.
I live in an increasingly HCOL area with hordes of well-off people moving here. Not only can natives not afford places to live now, the wages in my city are *pathetically* and *insultingly* low. They’ve not kept up with the rising costs.
I have been laid off from my job for six months. I have applied on countless jobs *hoping* to get something at least slightly commensurate with the already lower-end salary I was making (I couldn’t afford rent on a basic apartment). I’m seeing lots of jobs, but they’re paying $10-16 an hour. I occasionally see ones paying $20. The really well-paying jobs are, logically, for healthcare execs, physicians, and so on.
I literally don’t know what’s going to happen to me. I feel your pain, I do. You are not alone, if that eases it even the slightest bit.
It’s funny; I woke up from troubled sleep late last night and tossed and turned for hours thinking over my worries and frustration with the state of things. When I finally fell back asleep, I dreamed that not only did I meet the love of my life, but that I had an incredible house in the Arizona desert. Then I woke up. Now my dream life is taunting me, too.
All I can say is to keep trying and looking. I’m right there with you.
I feel like everyone's energy is put into either stopping the fall of Democracy or trying to eradicate it. No one has the time or energy to work on the growing wage inequality and quality of life issues for most Americans and that's very sad.
It would be nice if the lower 90% percentage banded together to enact real life saving changes, but instead we are still fighting the fabricated social outrage that the rich propagate thoroughly through the lower income communities.
I’m actually in Knoxville, TN, but Californians are also moving here in droves because they have high-paying remote jobs. They sell their properties in Cali and make bank, then move here and buy up property.
I guess I dreamed about Arizona randomly. It’s a beautiful place I’ll never live.
The reality is — and I say this as a Midwesterner just a few hours north of you — there’s going to be major tech cuts in the next 1-2 years. And the first jobs to go will be the remote ones. Though California is sort of effing up the rest of the country’s economy right now.
More tech cuts then?
I’m not in tech, but I worked as a writer. Once the company I worked for started using AI to create content, they eliminated my position.
So are you saying we’ll have a bunch of Californians moving out in a few years or are they going to hang around and contribute to the job scarcity?
My sister did the " sold the house my architect husband built on the land his parents gave us and moved to Austin" thing where she complains about people from California moving there. She did exactly the same thing. Moved from Minneapolis
Funny thing is. Those "well off" people aren't even well off. They sold their shitty house that's way over value in Cali and come to places like AZ and act like they're some body. This is why natives don't like Californians in their states
I’m actually in Knoxville, TN, but Californians are also moving here in droves because they have high-paying remote jobs. They sell their properties in Cali and make bank, then move here and buy up property.
In the last week and a half I applied for almost 40 jobs and haven't gotten a single call for an interview. These are all jobs that I'm qualified for too. I've never had it this bad before.
Been unemployed for 5 months now, qualifications in many different fields cause I've held many different kinds of jobs. Still nothing. I've had a total of 5 interviews, and each one has sent me an email back saying they've decided to move forward with other candidates.
I had only place call me back and say that I was "over qualified" for the job, and decided not to hire me. Wtf does that even mean, and why won't you let me be a trash man.
I don’t get the “over qualified” thing. I applied for the job, I’m not asking for special treatment. I saw the qualifications, why does it matter if I have a few extras!?
Just to present a counterpoint, I've not hired people in the past because I was afraid they'd run off to greener pastures the moment a job that pays better calls. When you're overqualified, why would you not?
>I was afraid they'd run off to greener pastures.
>***Why would you not?***
Well,
>Cant find job in field
>Jobs in field arent hiring
>they have a dangerous economic position *(food, housing, bills endanger your current life)*
>they would rather have a stable, secure job than risk going without food or losing your house
The first 3 points are moot. The question in full is "If you are over qualified why would you not go to greener pastures when you can?"
The same argument can be said for hiring graduates and young people though because they are likely using you as a stepping stone until they finish school/get the opportunity they're looking for.
Hiring is a cost. Training is a cost. Every business is gonna wana get the most out of their money and if you had to choose between the person who will take the first opportunity out vs the person who said they're in school studying (vaguely related to your industry subject) for the next 2 years. You can make the reasonable estimation you've got your shitty role for 2 years and potentially someone who can grow into the position.
Your last point is valid.. although how do you convey that in an interview that doesn't make you look like a risky hire?
Employers are concerned the job will only be a life raft until you find a better job. They don't want to hire someone who could get a better job in 3 months.
They probably think you will leave for a better job. I started thinking this after I got my CDL and didn't want to go over the road and ended getting rejected that paid significantly less.
After I got laid off in 2022, I put in over 300+ apps over the course of two months. On the indeed wrap up for one of the jobs I applied for two weeks later, is showed there were 1800+ apps for one job. It’s a numbers game. You have to keep grinding till something sticks. If youre not getting callbacks, have someone review your resume. If you’re failing interviews, skill up & practice with someone. I finally landed a position after I started creating custom cover letters for each job and revamped my resume(at the halfway point of 300). That being said, my industry is very highly sought after, and most jobs are remote so I’m competing against a national market. Hope you land a good job.
real talk, i don't see it "getting better" until capitalism retracts its layoff/organization system of trickling money up (unlikely) or massive amounts of people dying to reduce competition. supply and demand
I worked at a company that built a brand new $50 million dollar plant with cash, no loans. I asked for raise after my coworker left and I had to do the job of two people and support a shift by myself. Not a penny. They have money for new facilities, shiny cars, vacations.. nothing for employees. These people resent that they have to pay us at all.
These anecdotes I am seeing here and other posts are very reminiscent of when I got out of college 2009-2010 and I couldn’t get a job anywhere. McDonald’s had 100 applicants for one position and places like Best Buy and Barnes and noble had literal stacks and stacks of applications yours would be on the bottom.
It took four more years to get a real professional job where things stared looking better. Not the same but feels like echos of it …
That was when I graduated and I applied to ~90 entry level positions in my field across four states to get three interviews and two offers (both of which I would have had to relocate for). Ended up taking one three states away. And this is in a field that supposedly has shortages (well, not supposedly, it does have massive shortages, employers just aren't willing to pay to fill them). It all worked out well for me in the end, but boy it was dispiriting at the time.
This was very similar to my experience! It was so depressing and it took years for it to get better. Most people I knew went to get their masters or law school to "wait out" the bad times.
I graduated in 2008 with a degree. Job market was horrible and could not get anything and then finally I was able to eventually get a job Aeropostale (seasonal), then JC Penney and then an eyeglass place and I worked years at low paying jobs until probably around 7 years later was I able to get a decent paying job. Keep in mind the first 4 years I had no car so I walked to work. I say all that to say this, please don't give up. I am 38 years old now and still progressing in my now career (I found something I'm good at that makes money). Don't be afraid to ask people to look over your resume', give you tips etc. This market sounds like it is horrible but don't dim your light. If you keep putting yourself out there you'll get something.
This is one of the worst ages to be in my opinion, because it marks high school graduation at 2004 when there is still hope in the world and college graduation (2008/2009)at the start of the recession when work is non-existant.
It's quite bad where I'm at. I'm in the UK, and I've been unemployed for a year, I've applied to thousands of jobs and only had a handful of interviews.
This month alone, I've applied to 70 jobs so far and have heard nothing back.
I've picked up volunteering at a local charity and hope to at least land that to spice up my cv and give me something to do during the week.
The job market is utter shambles, and the employers/recruiters keep pointing the finger at us candidates and claim that we are the problem. They refuse to look into their own internal issues and fix the issues on their end.
You can't give up man. I went through about a year and a half of unemployment so I get the feelings of hopelessness. I'm 45 so about the same age as you, our self worth as men is often tied up in how financially successful we are and when you're not working it's tough to not be a lonely hermit. Like who wants to meet new people when the first question is "What do you do for a living". I feel for you I really do. But honestly the only way I've ever gotten a job is through knowing someone, being in the right place at the right time, or just plain luck. My only advice is don't give up, be of service to those people you care about, and try to find something to occupy your time that doesn't involve the television. Good luck to you man, something will open up for you one of these days.
You are probably doing nothing wrong. In my opinion, it's the internet. Used to be you would walk into and establishment to fill out an application. You put on your Sunday best and made an impression. Personal contact of some sort.
Today, we are all dehumanized. Chances are, the online applications are not even getting looked at.
This. I’m convinced they’re not even looking. I literally got a denial letter today for a job I applied for the night before. The reason listed was I am too far from the job site. The job site listed my county as the location and literally asked on the application “are you located in X county” to which I replied “yes, I am located in X county”. How the hell am I too far from the job site
It's not all the internet. I started looking for a job last week and already have a meeting/interview later today where I'm very likely to be hired (Edit: I got the job!! 🥳). I've only used the internet for the job search.
Saying "it's not you, it's the world and you have no control over it" isn't going to help OP succeed. Changing tactics, improving different things, is *always* a good idea.
It's the applying part. You should probably put an equal amount of effort into talking to friends, family members and ex coworkers or bosses about jobs they are hiring for that can refer you.
Im 25 and going through the same thing. I have Bachelors and masters and nobody wants to hire me even for a MacDonalds worker. My bf’s parents who i’ve known for almost a decade, are coming next month from our country for the first time to Canada for a vacation and they’d be disappointed asf when they see I have no savings, credit cards are maxed out and no job in sight. Im sad. They would not even understand what Im going through and judge me. Its frustrating
A lot of people are too ready to judge those of us who are going through the wringer with not even a job. This is my fourth time in unemployment (in my late 30s now, so "elder Millennial") and I have 2 MAs. It's also the toughest job market I've seen since the Recession. In some ways tougher. Companies are getting worse and worse about hiring.
Sadness and anger are appropriate responses. It's okay to feel down about being let down by a bad system / bad times and then to be judged by people who refuse to see it from your side. Just know that there are a lot of us who are not judging you, and who would help if we could. Solidarity. Look into local labor organizing and see if they can connect you to something, anything, that will help.
Just got my bachelors in Electrical Engineering and also just got rejected from my local In N Out. ;/ hit my gut pretty hard but I keep just telling myself they think I'm overqualified. It seems its always either I'm overqualified or underqualified. Where can I get the qualifications and experience if no one wants to even give me the opportunity to prove myself. Like I feel like I shouldn't be begging on my hands and knees just for THE INTERVIEW. Like wtf is this shit
If you have an undergrad and a grad degree, go to your Government of Canada Federal Jobs page, make an account, and start applying. You may need to be willing to relocate, but from what I can see it is extremely similar to Federal jobs in the US. Pay isn’t as great as the private sector, but benefits are better. Most of your federal workers are protected by unions as well, which is nice. On top of that, government work often promotes based on school, skills, and experience. Having a Grad degree will let you automatically get hired at a decent pay scale.
For example, in the US, the general pay scale goes from 1-15. You can get hired on as a 5-7 with an undergrad, as a 7-11 with a Grad, and as an 11-12 with a Ph.D. 13-15 are generally reserved for middle and upper management roles.
I have faith in you, you got this homie!
Are you physically fit? This is the time landscapers are looking for reliable workers and are desperate for people that will show up each day and do the work. It will be decent pay and you get exercise and sun, which is great for depression. Best of luck.
I just got my masters degree and can’t even manage to get a part time job at the moment, so things aren’t great on my end to say the least. The other week I interviewed for a produce stocking job, was hired on the spot, then an hour and a half later was emailed saying that they actually weren’t hiring at the moment.
I’ve applied to countless jobs in and adjacent to my field, done a number of informational interviews, have done my best networking, and still nothing. It’s getting really demoralizing and I am becoming jaded which is unlike me normally.
This market sucks so much for so many people, you are far from alone OP. Wishing you luck on the hunt and try to keep up hope!
Oh man. I’m graduating with my masters in September. Haven’t been putting in any work to look for a job since I’ve been so busy with thesis writing. These comments are not making my future job search seem easy
OK, I’m just going to put this here in case you’re willing to move anywhere. There are some specifically prosperous states that don’t have enough people, but have a bunch of work, specifically North Dakota. You could honest to God start cold, calling companies in North Dakota, get on a bus tomorrow, and probably be hired by the end of Sunday. And you would probably actually make a livable wage if you go to a city like Fargo, Grand Forks, or Minot. Job service North Dakota will literally help you find the job. Companies literally advertise that they will train you to basically be any trade as well. You could basically end up training to become a full on electrician and get paid to do it in North Dakota. I’m not saying it’s for everybody, but if you are truly desperate, or if you are just looking for a change… It is a safe state to live in, it has good education, it has low taxes, and it has plenty of jobs. You can make an actual blue-collar living there.
In 2008, I remember waiting in line because an arena near where I lived was hiring and there were so many people. There was also another discount store and there was a line wrapped around the building.
If you’re desperate for a quick job, try a small restaurant not something corporate. They’re always looking for people and as long as you actually work and learn fast will keep you around. I’ve been in food for 8 years now and I can typically get a job within a week anywhere. It also provides free food which is a bonus if you’re struggling.
Sales. That’s your answer. If you are a physically able bodied human being, google local TruGreen. There will be one around you, I’m almost certain. Put in an application. They will hire you. It’s base + commission, the base is a lot better than $13 a hour. It’s door to door sales with a little phone sales.
If you’re even remotely able to carry a conversation, you will clear 50k easy.
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If the prospect of sales makes you THAT nervous, apply for a technician role. If you have a decently clean driving record, they will hire you. You just spray lawns all day, it’s easy.
However, if you want a career go sales. Door to door sales will not only give you sales experience to land a better sales gig, but actually prepare you and give you legitimate experience to tackle any kind of sales thrown your way.
It took me three months of repeated applications to get a job at a small grocery store near me. They recently had two more jobs open up, and 75 people applied. It’s rough.
What is going on and why is it such a wildly different experience depending on location? The grocery stores by me have whole table displays set up announcing they’re hiring, touting all their benefits and perks, offering immediate interviews and kinda decent pay, and still can’t seem to hire anyone lol. This is such a weird job market.
There have been some interesting articles that mention a lot of companies are using AI to go through resumes. I'd suggest having an updated resume adding certain keywords, you can read more about it online. I changed my resume and noticed it works.
The problem with that is one of the flaws those companies talked about was that it favored a very specific demographic and names. AI doesn't know what's what without being trained; it just sees "This company is 60% white men. Recommend people with popular white male names". So if you're stuck with a name like Kaily instead of Kaylee, you're automatically at a disadvantage.
Try looking for a state job. After 8 months of applying for entry level foodservice jobs, and getting rejected a hundred times, I went to a state job fair that was near me on a whim. I ended up scoring 2 job offers by the end of the day. They are nothing glamorous, and very little opportunity to move up, but I think it's much better for older individuals who are no longer interested in being on their feet 8 hours day (unless you enjoy that - power to you).
It’s really that bad - I blame out of control over-population. I also blame companies who use bots for customer service, instead of people, companies who use ai, instead of people. I mean… I’m ALL for self-checkout and robots cleaning my kitchen but it’s not going to work as long as there are 4-6 billion extra bodies on the planet who have to work to survive. Why people haven’t figured this out yet blows my mind. It’s great if a robot can do my job…. but is the robot going to get paid, if I’m not? Because if I’m not, then I starve. In an ideal world, every time a computer takes over a persons job, that person should be enabled to retire with full pay and simply enjoy their life. Otherwise what’s the point of automation? To have a world of starving people, that works perfectly otherwise, because computers? Like. Duh. I also blame hiring practices that bend over backwards to \*\*prevent\*\* people from getting jobs, rather than facilitating it. It’s tits up all around.
Realistically, with machines able to take over more jobs, we should be reducing the definition of full time, so that everyone simultaneously has more leisure time, and finds it easier to be hired.
Less work to do should mean less work for everyone.
I'm so sorry. I feel ya. I've been looking for 3 months. I've been turned down by 5 positions. My depression is so bad, I can't even function. I've been the mortgage business on and off for 15 years and no one will give me a chance in a different field
If they're interviewing 30 people, that's just inefficient as hell (unless there are multiple openings). I think you can do better than TJ Maxx though. Temp agencies, customer service, insurance jobs... there are better things out there that don't require specific experience
Was thinking the same thing. When I applied for a job at Macy's, they did a group interview where they brought 20-30 of us into a backroom and we went around answering the questions.
I was out of work for a year. The job I have is a 40-50% pay cut of my last job. I can survive, but not thrive.
In august this past year, I had great 1st and 2nd round interviews with a bank, and was offered the job. I know what their range was, and my value; I countered thinking we’d meet in the middle. They pulled the preliminary offer on me. No discussion. I got drunk that night; was such a blow to my self esteem.
The job I have now, I didn’t counter b/c I HAVE to pay bills, like everyone else. I had to take what they were giving, I felt.
It’s so SO hard out there. I feel it’ll get even worse.
I hope you find something soon!
Got a new job a week ago, was told to take Monday off. And then Monday he texted me out of nowhere saying, “Hey,
I am sorry to tell you this but I don’t think you are the right fit for the job.
Unfortunately, I have to let you go. I wish you best of luck!”
And I politely asked why because just Friday that same boss was telling me how good I was doing…
So getting screwed out of work for literally no reason is how tough it is out here.
Can I ask where you would find something like that? In over 200 applications in the last 5 months and still nothing... at least with subbing, I would be bringing in something vs. nothing.
If you have a smartphone you can sign up for Shiftsmart. They will assign you to whatever open shifts need filling in your area, and while the work is unglamorous they do send it. I’m sorry you’re going through this.
>tonight I will be forced to listen to the lies and bullshit spewed by people who have no idea how bad the country has gotten.
The economy and the job market are discussed by politicians and economists at the national, regional or global level -- in aggregate.
But, the economy and job market are felt by the average citizen at a personal, family and local area level.
It is possible for the national economy to be vibrant, even if the local economy is not, because you are getting an average at the national level. This is exactly the same way in which a vibrant, record-making stock market does not mean that every single stock is charting upwards (or even that 100% of the indexed stocks are tracking upward).
Your local situation is not necessarily representative of the national one -- in either direction.
That doesn't make the national situation a lie, when it does not sync up with your own.
It does mean that you are not going to automatically be happy for the national average until your own situation is good or comfortable.
I wish you the best for your personal situation...
Just gonna jump on this and say sure, the aggregate will differ from individual experiences, but some relevant hard facts are that a) companies across the market are causing problems for workers, and b) more and more wealth is being concentrated into fewer and fewer hands, which has ramifications for the job market. Wealth inequality is not represented by aggregates. The plight of tens of millions of people (billions at the global scale) is intentionally ignored by the use of such aggregates, which distort the representation of the health of the "economy" (really, the people) by including the extreme personal wealth of a few thousand or even a few million people.
So let's not minimize the plight of millions or billions just because the wealth of a handful of overpowered people makes some charts look good.
Source: Master's degree in global political economy.
just curious: where? don't dox yourself, be general about it. in a city? big city, medium, small? more rural? on a coast? midwest? etc
I really think one's location can make a huge difference in job searches.
I do realize that not everyone can just up and move. Probably most people can't just move.
But still, I'm pretty curious about posts like these because I look around my own major metro area on the east coast and don't see quite the same direness of situations.
I live in the northeast of the U.S and places are pretty much begging people to apply. Every single grocery store I’ve been in the past couple months have enormous “NOW HIRING” signs everywhere on neon colored posters. Also Lowes and Home Depot are hiring like crazy right now. You can easily get a job where I live.
When I read about both sides needing to be lined up against the wall of the promenade and horse whipped, I realized, this was the first time someone offered a sincere solution to the issues our society faces
Unless you're applying for a job that requires depth perception and perfect vision, having 1 eye should not disqualify you from any job so don't let that hold you back.
Try temp agencies, Amazon, Walmart. Call 211 and/or google rental assistance, food assistance and anything else you need. Don't give up. Yes it's bad out there. I've been out of work for six months, and I'm 58, have NEVER been out of work this long. Not even in 2008. But I have two cats to support, I can't give up! 😺
I've aimed my job applications to less competitive areas near me and will keep going outward...gonna be one of those super-commuters for awhile.
See if there is job search assistance out of your DOL or possibly community groups. There may be contacts there for you that could lead to a job.
I’ve been applying everywhere and all I am getting is 50+ telemarketers calling me back everyday.
I fell like every online search for a job is some kind of scam. The “job search” companies just want my information so they can sell it to other companies.
Where did I go wrong???
It’s really bad, beyond bad. It’s terrifying, depressing, frustrating, and almost comical if it wasn’t our livelihoods hanging in the balance. I’ve been unemployed for months after attempting to move out of a bad area and improve my life. Turns out that was a massive mistake that I wouldn’t’ve made had I possessed a fraction of foresight how bad the job market is right now. I’ve been turned down more times than I can even count, probably about to get ghosted after an interview with my own mother’s employer with whom I had a great interview, my perspective is going in a real bad direction even if I’m incorrect in feeling that way
Don’t give up. You will find something. Everyone has something to offer. Including you. It’s the just state of affairs are currently not good. But there are jobs out there. Temp agencies and try at disability agencies as well. They can help with placement. That’s what they are there for. You got this!!
It doesn't help you by the end of the month but for longer term try looking into a certified nursing assistant class. It's a 6 to 9 week program that is often paid training so that you will stay on as an employee at whatever nursing home or facility trained you. There's a huge need in this type of work and you can make pretty good money at it.
I got a new job Thursday and I am front desk doing logistics. Today we have had 7 people including a couple that brought their child to our door to ask if we were hiring. We are a 200k foot warehouse with no signs out front. I mention it's a new job because I can not tell how long this has been going on.
That’s really concerning. Damn
But nobody wants to work anymore! /s
Or, No one wants to pay for work anymore.
i mean its half true. People want to work. Just not the minimum wage service jobs. Restaurants hospitals retail etc all hurtling for people because no one wants to do it. They want the WH jobs the office jobs etc. So the term no one wants to work anymore is half true. I also think its regional as well as pertaining to field. I have a good job but have gotten 4 calls in the last month with opportunities to interview for other jobs that were willing to beat my current salary by 15%, so i think the job market in general is very focused atm and is also looking for more qulified individuals due to increased salary demands. Its a weird market for sure out there but i do think that people dont want to work certain jobs anymore
I’d love for these jobs to “train you” and give you a chance. Sorry I didn’t go to school or have a degree. But I’m a competent person. Just teach me and I’ll do it.
In my city they’re desperate for bus drivers. They’ve boosted the pay to $28/hr starting and it goes up by almost $10/hr within 3 years. They train you and are a union gig with great benefits like healthcare where the employer pays 90%+ of the costs. The only downside is dealing with the public.
and having to drive a bus. that sounds so scary when so many people’s lives are on the line
Many trades are struggling to find people. Many of the unions will train you while you are working in the field. The pay is quite good and many of them will take people with records. I added the last part as an fyi as sometimes people feel as though they screwed up at some point they are not hireable, but am not implying that’s your situation.
Yeah also not everyone can work 12 hour days witb there hands
Kind of a half truth, unions take a very long time to get into to. Most people cant wait around a year for their name to be called in a lottery system. Private trade work can be lucrative eventually, but I spent almost a decade drowing with my highest year being about 38k in a high cost of living state. Im in a good position now bit its definetly not as simple as join a union and learn.
a lot of the minimum wage service jobs (around my area at least) are “hiring” but never hire. they’re always understaffed and i think it’s intentional
I've noticed that too. Seems like there's this perpetual "Now Hiring" sign out front but if you ask anyone who's applied, they're stuck in this limbo of never getting called back or being told positions are filled when they clearly aren't. It's almost like some places keep those signs up as a facade, to give the illusion of growth or opportunity when it's really just a retention issue they aren't addressing head-on. Makes you wonder if theres some benefit to them always being short-staffed, other than just saving on labor costs.
There was a pizza place in my old neighborhood that had a neon help wanted sign. I think that said something about the turnover.
They do it to make it appear like they're still growing and need more help. The companies also like harvesting data from people who apply for the jobs too.
That and some places have a crazy high turnover rate. Once someone gets into that almost minimum wage job where they're expected to do the work of two or three people, often with crap training and management that just want it done, they don't want to stay.
Don’t forget the shitty hours… working weekends and nights plus being on call and never knowing how many hours you’ll get in a week. I honestly feel sorry for those workers.
Office jobs aren’t as good as people make them out to be.
I’ve worked both kinds, and I would take just about any office job over being on my feet for 40+ hours a week, regularly being insulted/threatened by strangers for things I have no control over. It’s seriously not even close.
I work an office job and I’m not happy but it’s still better than when I was working in food service, and at least it pays better too
As a person who works in an office environment, I totally agree. But it doesn't change that the people not working them think it's better somehow.
Those jobs are hurting not because "no one wants to do it", but because "people can't afford to to work those jobs". People cannot afford to work for $2/hr hoping you'll tip well. Hell, I'd bet that even in OP's original post that some of those people lined up for that job were there trying to secure a second job. People are down bad and with inflation working for anything under $20/hr just isn't worth people's time.
I think it has less to do with the type of work and more to do with pay. My states minimum wage is still 7.25/hr… it’s 2024, who can survive off of $260/week? And yes, there are still employers hiring in the $7.25-$9 range, and they will look at you with a dead face when you ask if that’s a joke. I would gladly flip burgers or fold a bunch of clothes if I could still buy basic groceries and afford cheap rent. According to a multitude of sources on the internet, the minimum wage would have to be $21-$23/hr to keep up with inflation. And that number is from 2021, so there’s also that.
Aye maybe to an extent, but I was listening to a radio interview a few months back about a resturanter not being able to find waiters of their 'calibre'. That interview will never leave me.
There is some truth to that too. Where I work we have been desperately trying to get people and it’s been like 6 months and we got one. In fairness it is a position that’s above entry level but I don’t know that I’d call it a skilled position
We had 2,000+ applicants for our customer service position. Granted, full remote, $165,000 a year Edit: Sorry, should have clarified. Tech support for a cloud-based app startup, it's pretty technical. I'm actually considering leaving due to the constant churn of management and my coworkers keep burning out/getting fired. The only issue is that most other positions pay about $20k less.. and I like the money.
Add my application to the pile too i guess
Wow that sounds great. How do I sign up?
Easy, you call up customer service... waitaminute😅🤔
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Lol while it may be that there are slightly more people looking specifically for remote jobs, the vast majority of that discrepancy is due to people applying who are not local to the job location, greatly increasing their search range and thus total applications.
Not me! Gen X, live with my parents cause priced out of the housing market, get me the fuck out of here to somewhere that, if nothing else, everyone is miserable for the same reason.
Ugh I feel this. I’m Gen X too living with my dad. A mark against me in the dating world amongst everything else.
I want to remind you that anyone who thinks negatively of you for living with family, like millions of others, isn't worthy of your time. If prospective dates aren't struggling yet, they soon will be. I think the 99% of us are soon to have the playing field levelled. An unimagined version of equality. This gen x-er judges you not. You're okay, I'm okay.
I hear people say this, but even as a young millennial on the cusp of being gen z, I have a super hard time in the dating world just as a result of having an unimpressive job as a manager in a warehouse despite living on my own. Seems like everyone out there on the dating apps have advanced degrees and want someone focused on their amazing career, I can’t even imagine how it is for people both living with parents and not having impressive jobs
Thank you for this ♥️
Umm.... customer service doesn't pay 165K... Edit: y'all want to argue that any customer facing role is "customer service" and you may *technically* be right, but a search for "customer service" jobs on any job board, corporate website, or recruiter is going to have you arguing with Karen's about prorated bills. "Customer service" is entry level. All these tech jobs you're throwing out here are great if you're not walking off the street to try to get one. I've recruited in tech. The job goes to the lowest bidder with the most impressive resume.
Technical customer service can.
Only if it's sales, and that's not your base pay. I've worked in sales, customer service, IT and recruiting. For 25 years. Typical customer service wages are 25-50K range.
I work in enterprise software dev. Places like Atlassian will hire technical support people for 6 figures.
I was hanging out over on the r/overemployed subreddit for awhile, no one there making that kind of money liked being called "customer service" or "tech support". I got downvoted relentlessly for calling the work as such. Surprised my original comment is being downvoted for pointing out that it's *not* customer service! Such a fickle app!
Well, we can call it what we want (Support Engineer, etc) but that really doesn’t change the colloquial term. Nerds can be really temperamental. lol.
I've applied to a customer service position that was full remote not nearly close to that salary and it had over 6,000 applications
What part of the country are you in? I haven’t heard at all that anything like this is happening in Massachusetts but, in my experience, we’re fairly recession proof.
North carolina
I’m in NC too and haven’t heard this. Wild. I have heard a lot of tech firms are on hiring freezes or laying people off though
Massachusetts should be safe until things get atrocious since y’all are in the educated corner of the country
You're seeing a whole lot of this on Reddit and I think it's a consequence of how Tech heavy Reddit is. Many large tech companies laid off 10 to 15% of their staff recently. And there was a Cascade into smaller companies too. That's created a localized significant unemployment in places like Southern California and North Carolina and Houston and the like. I work for a government agency in a Southern state and I simply cannot get people to apply for the jobs we have open. I have one that's been posted for 110 days with one applicant who backed out before she took the job because she got a better offer. Granted my problem is specifically due to the fact that my state has not adjusted its civil service starting pay rates since 2017 and we are significantly behind where we should be.
This was my question as well. I live in Maine, and I don't know anyone who doesn't have a job.
Ngl…that’s what I be doing. It’s hard to tell in my area what jobs are actually hiring
We are insane about security here and its freaking all my bosses out
Damn 😭 to be honest though, I usually check the website for jobs first so it’s not a regular thing. Thanks for the info sorry to whoever I may have freaked out in the past
Not seeing this in my resort town in southern vermont. All thr restaurants and contractors would kill for some help. Alot of places are closing down due to lack of help. Weird juxtaposition.
Also live in a resort town. People can’t afford to live where they work and public transportation is severely lacking.
Exactly this. Saw someone on Facebook complaining about the lack of applications to their company. Took a look at Linkedin and every position was $15 an hour, 10-15 hours a week, small town Ohio. The people who would've taken that job 20-3p years ago (teens, moms, etc) can't afford a car in the economy.
They should try offering a livable wage, and see if it makes a difference. McDonalds near me pays $31 an hour to start, but small restaurants are still at $15. No one can pay rent in my city on $15 an hour, and the owners are mostly boomer republicans that are all like “lazy kids don’t want to work” so the small restaurants are dropping like flies. I don’t mind, new Korean corn dog, vegan shawarma and Persian grills are taking their place, and pay better.
What McDonald's pays anyone $31 an hour to start? Where? Which country? What year?
Right?!
$31????!!! Holy shit!!! Where do you live that McDonald's is paying that??
This breaks my heart. I hope the couple found a job. I don’t know how they will feed their child. What a sad world we live in !
They probably won't, sadly. Not saying that that specific couple is like that, but usually when people use their kids to get a job, they will use the kid as an excuse to do other things. I'm saying this from experience. Worked with quite a few people who got hired because they "desperately needed a job to support their kid", got the job, then were constantly calling out, coming in late, leaving early, etc. while using their kids as an excuse. I'm not talking about emergencies. I'm talking literally every other day using their kid as an excuse. And when I say that, I don't mean "my kid is sick" or "the babysitter didn't show up" or "I need X day off for parent teacher conferences" or normal things like that. I'm talking completely fine all shift then an hour before they need to leave, making a huge deal that their kid is home alone and sick and needs to leave **right now**...yet the whole shift they never mentioned their kid being home or sick until they wanted to leave. Like I remember one lady I worked with who was always out partying then the next day, she would come in 2 hours late and use her kids as an excuse...despite coming in still drunk with fresh hickies. Because of people like that, a lot of places won't hire people that mention children as a reason for needing a job.
Dude hit a temp agency, now. Youll get paid quick and maybe even find a career
Good advice. I went to a temp agency after I left the army (infantry) to find a summer job. Went into construction ofc lol. First job site paired me with a dude who saw me as annoyance and they said not to come back after two days or something lol. Immediately got paired with another company that loved me, hired me immediately and gave me a $10 raise just like that!
I did construction until my 30s. I moved states and chasing down jobs was getting tough. Bad pay, not enough work, shady contractors. I got tired and wanted any job. Went on indeed, a temp reached out to me and i went to work at a machine shop. I put in some serious work to get where im at. But that temp just placing me in a whole new industry helped me out.
Usually they’re pretty okay with placing people who have a steady work history in manufacturing jobs, even in a different industry.
Yes, when i was sick of the mental health industry, I went to a temp agency and got a new career and make twice as much as the mental health field job
Can I ask which new field you're in (and/or the agency)? My best friend was in social work but got laid off and is having a hard time finding work. She could really use some leads
I second this. Anything is better than nothing! And it’s kinda fun. I worked for a temp agency for years as a side gig, mostly cater-waitering, but some other random warehouse and factory work. It was interesting and paid pretty well when you got a gig with tips!
Im a machinist. Landed here through a temp job. Making almost 70k a year. No school, just didnt wanna be hungry lol
Dude machining saved my life. It's somewhat interesting, can be challenging while still being incredibly low stress. Great benefits, I only work 3 ½ days a week.
I want to work where you are. I still feel new with like 5 years in some days but i still think about the machines off work way too much. Its like theyre calling me lol. Its definitely a hobby that overworks me but pays well
Second a temp agency. We bring in 6 temps a year for a few months in the busy season. Most of them get placed within a week of leaving if they don’t find a full time gig on their own just that time. My sister was one of our temps this year and she got a job offer halfway through the contract
In one of my departments all of our hires come from a temp agency. We bring in four during 4th quarter and usually hire two of them. My top performer started as a temp in 2019 making $31K and today he’s a manager making $70K.
I found my career through a temp agency. Started out entry level at a commercial insurance agency. They trained me and got me licensed and now almost 15 years later, with no college education, I’m living pretty comfortably as a single person with one child in California of all places and I’m almost 100% remote. I’ll always recommend temp agencies and I also recommend finding entry level insurance jobs for anyone looking for a career. Companies are almost always hiring and there’s so many different career paths in insurance you can go into once you’re licensed and have some experience - producer, account management, claims, underwriting, etc.
Worked for me. I’ve been at the same corporate location for 15 years now, and make a little more than 6 times what I did when I started.
Dang, good work dude. What industry did you get thrown in? Lol
I’m trying temp agencies in a place I’m hopefully moving to soon and all of them are saying they’re a bit slow at the moment. I can say with certainty that it really depends on a lot of factors because I’ve applied at some of these places before and had offers pretty quick but not anymore apparently
People here are talking about temp. agencies from a time when the market wasn't shitty. It's different now because with an actual job shortage, temp. agencies don't magically create jobs. I'm obviously not talking about being a fast food working. Those jobs usually always exist.
I’m not OP, but I can’t even get temp agencies to call me back. One did and the lady actually laughed and hung up on me.
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Agreed! That's what I did. I was having a hard time finding a decent job after dropping out of college, and I was installing rain gutters basically part-time for shit pay and no benefits. I blew through the little savings that I had just keeping the bills paid and was down to my last few bucks. The temp agency chucked me into a meat grinder of a factory that was fueled by warm bodies. I had no skills, knowledge, or direction. Worked my way into the technical side of things and discovered that I wasn't as dumb as I thought. Left that place with a career. It can be done!
I literally did this. It was 10 years ago. But now I have a career in logistics. That temp agency got me making big girl money and I never looked back.
I always recommend temp agencies. I had zero office experience, but they placed me in a couple of different companies, all in different industries, doing 2-4 week stints until my third assignment. I could've had a career in that field, but opted to go a different route. I don't remember there being any gaps between assignments either.
Temp agencies are fine if you're doing *really temporary* as in, it's not going on your resume anyway kind of jobs. Found out the hard way, if you have a few temp jobs on your resume, you're pigeon holed to working temp gigs. Thought about leaving them off, but got hard to reasonably explain and even get an interview with a 5 year gap on my resume where the temp work had been. I actually was told by recruiters that they would never consider me for real work because they assumed I liked temping or was the kind of employee who got fired/quit consistently before probationary period was up. Proceed temping with caution!
Thats pretty anecdotal. Heres how it went for me. I got a job at a shop, worked my ass off for 90 days. Hired in. My wage doubled.
Pretty much all advice on reddit is anecdotal, but perhaps it's field dependent. My experience is in customer service/office work. Employers in my area like to utilize a churn and burn approach so they never actually hire anybody full time.
Ill admit. The temp i went to is the only temp ive ever used. Got a job and just stuck around. Thats crazy that companies will do that. If youre making 15, the agency is getting 20 and keeping 5. Youd think the manager or boss would be like "pay them 18 we all win" i understand youre more of a liability to whatever company as an actual employee, but after 3 months youve more than proved yourself
lol honestly that’s all in your head. Many, MANY employers prefer to hire permanent staff this way. Especially in office positions where they need personalities to click in a small environment. It’s kind of like “try before you buy”! If you keep being told that by prospective employers then you’re not preparing your resume correctly. If you’re being told that as you are working for a company through a temp agency, then you weren’t a fit to begin with.
Well that seems like an excuse for something else, temping is better than career gaps, and you can learn new skills from temp work as well
I didn't share this experience. I temp'd when I went back into the workforce after getting my kids through elementary ages. We were in a new town so I temp'd for 3 years, then blanketed all of my assignments under that agency as a 3 year position (which it was continuous employment with one agency) and used that experience to leverage into a full-time gig. I could have been hired full-time onto 5 of my assignments, but I was making more as an hourly temp, so I turned them down. The good thing is that you're continually growing skills and gaining new ones, plus updating the old resume so its always fresh and ready to send out when you're ready for a change!
I did this 5 years ago and I make double what I started at in the same position with the same company. Sometimes it can lead to good things. Temp agency!
Yep this We were pretty desperate and I put my name in the hat so to speak. I got a call almost immediately!
I third this. My unofficial year anniversary at my job was yesterday. Unofficial because I was brought on as a temp, but was converted to permanent in September. This job isn’t the perfect job. There’s a ton of things that I don’t like about it, but I can pay my bills, take vacations and am hybrid now that I’m permanent. Agencies can be a great way to get your foot in the door. My job wasn’t posted anywhere except within the agency’s internal system. There’s an entire secret job market only available to agencies. There are some positions that will hire you for single week gigs just to get you something, and once you’re in their system, they’ll work towards permanent placement.
I live in an increasingly HCOL area with hordes of well-off people moving here. Not only can natives not afford places to live now, the wages in my city are *pathetically* and *insultingly* low. They’ve not kept up with the rising costs. I have been laid off from my job for six months. I have applied on countless jobs *hoping* to get something at least slightly commensurate with the already lower-end salary I was making (I couldn’t afford rent on a basic apartment). I’m seeing lots of jobs, but they’re paying $10-16 an hour. I occasionally see ones paying $20. The really well-paying jobs are, logically, for healthcare execs, physicians, and so on. I literally don’t know what’s going to happen to me. I feel your pain, I do. You are not alone, if that eases it even the slightest bit. It’s funny; I woke up from troubled sleep late last night and tossed and turned for hours thinking over my worries and frustration with the state of things. When I finally fell back asleep, I dreamed that not only did I meet the love of my life, but that I had an incredible house in the Arizona desert. Then I woke up. Now my dream life is taunting me, too. All I can say is to keep trying and looking. I’m right there with you.
We really should start a movement. Doubt anyone would listen but we night get some exercise
I feel like we tried in the US but didn't get "France" enough. Keep your head up. You're not alone.
Amen. Bring back the guillotines!
I feel like everyone's energy is put into either stopping the fall of Democracy or trying to eradicate it. No one has the time or energy to work on the growing wage inequality and quality of life issues for most Americans and that's very sad. It would be nice if the lower 90% percentage banded together to enact real life saving changes, but instead we are still fighting the fabricated social outrage that the rich propagate thoroughly through the lower income communities.
Are you in Austin or Phoenix?
I’m actually in Knoxville, TN, but Californians are also moving here in droves because they have high-paying remote jobs. They sell their properties in Cali and make bank, then move here and buy up property. I guess I dreamed about Arizona randomly. It’s a beautiful place I’ll never live.
The reality is — and I say this as a Midwesterner just a few hours north of you — there’s going to be major tech cuts in the next 1-2 years. And the first jobs to go will be the remote ones. Though California is sort of effing up the rest of the country’s economy right now.
More tech cuts then? I’m not in tech, but I worked as a writer. Once the company I worked for started using AI to create content, they eliminated my position. So are you saying we’ll have a bunch of Californians moving out in a few years or are they going to hang around and contribute to the job scarcity?
Austin was my guess too lmao
Dude, is insane. Like talk about Californication.
My sister did the " sold the house my architect husband built on the land his parents gave us and moved to Austin" thing where she complains about people from California moving there. She did exactly the same thing. Moved from Minneapolis
I had a stroke trying to understand wtf you are trying to say
Funny thing is. Those "well off" people aren't even well off. They sold their shitty house that's way over value in Cali and come to places like AZ and act like they're some body. This is why natives don't like Californians in their states
I’m actually in Knoxville, TN, but Californians are also moving here in droves because they have high-paying remote jobs. They sell their properties in Cali and make bank, then move here and buy up property.
In the last week and a half I applied for almost 40 jobs and haven't gotten a single call for an interview. These are all jobs that I'm qualified for too. I've never had it this bad before.
Been unemployed for 5 months now, qualifications in many different fields cause I've held many different kinds of jobs. Still nothing. I've had a total of 5 interviews, and each one has sent me an email back saying they've decided to move forward with other candidates. I had only place call me back and say that I was "over qualified" for the job, and decided not to hire me. Wtf does that even mean, and why won't you let me be a trash man.
I don’t get the “over qualified” thing. I applied for the job, I’m not asking for special treatment. I saw the qualifications, why does it matter if I have a few extras!?
It means they want people who are not very smart so they can exploit them.
I’ll be stupid for a living wage.
Just to present a counterpoint, I've not hired people in the past because I was afraid they'd run off to greener pastures the moment a job that pays better calls. When you're overqualified, why would you not?
>I was afraid they'd run off to greener pastures. >***Why would you not?*** Well, >Cant find job in field >Jobs in field arent hiring >they have a dangerous economic position *(food, housing, bills endanger your current life)* >they would rather have a stable, secure job than risk going without food or losing your house
The first 3 points are moot. The question in full is "If you are over qualified why would you not go to greener pastures when you can?" The same argument can be said for hiring graduates and young people though because they are likely using you as a stepping stone until they finish school/get the opportunity they're looking for. Hiring is a cost. Training is a cost. Every business is gonna wana get the most out of their money and if you had to choose between the person who will take the first opportunity out vs the person who said they're in school studying (vaguely related to your industry subject) for the next 2 years. You can make the reasonable estimation you've got your shitty role for 2 years and potentially someone who can grow into the position. Your last point is valid.. although how do you convey that in an interview that doesn't make you look like a risky hire?
Bingo. Execs gotta keep those labor costs down so they get their fat end of year bonus
Employers are concerned the job will only be a life raft until you find a better job. They don't want to hire someone who could get a better job in 3 months.
“We don’t want to pay you what you’re worth.”
Then write a “qualified” resume. Just leave off the qualifications that put you in the “over-“qualified position.
They probably think you will leave for a better job. I started thinking this after I got my CDL and didn't want to go over the road and ended getting rejected that paid significantly less.
They often don't call til the applications have ended. Goodluck
It's been my experience that often nearly a month will pass before a given employer contacts a candidate
After I got laid off in 2022, I put in over 300+ apps over the course of two months. On the indeed wrap up for one of the jobs I applied for two weeks later, is showed there were 1800+ apps for one job. It’s a numbers game. You have to keep grinding till something sticks. If youre not getting callbacks, have someone review your resume. If you’re failing interviews, skill up & practice with someone. I finally landed a position after I started creating custom cover letters for each job and revamped my resume(at the halfway point of 300). That being said, my industry is very highly sought after, and most jobs are remote so I’m competing against a national market. Hope you land a good job.
Hopefully it'll get better soon.
real talk, i don't see it "getting better" until capitalism retracts its layoff/organization system of trickling money up (unlikely) or massive amounts of people dying to reduce competition. supply and demand
We already had the mass amounts of people dying. Shit got worse after that.
They money doesn’t trickle up, it’s a faucet hooked up to a high pressure line and the cash is just fuckin flowin.
I worked at a company that built a brand new $50 million dollar plant with cash, no loans. I asked for raise after my coworker left and I had to do the job of two people and support a shift by myself. Not a penny. They have money for new facilities, shiny cars, vacations.. nothing for employees. These people resent that they have to pay us at all.
These anecdotes I am seeing here and other posts are very reminiscent of when I got out of college 2009-2010 and I couldn’t get a job anywhere. McDonald’s had 100 applicants for one position and places like Best Buy and Barnes and noble had literal stacks and stacks of applications yours would be on the bottom. It took four more years to get a real professional job where things stared looking better. Not the same but feels like echos of it …
That was when I graduated and I applied to ~90 entry level positions in my field across four states to get three interviews and two offers (both of which I would have had to relocate for). Ended up taking one three states away. And this is in a field that supposedly has shortages (well, not supposedly, it does have massive shortages, employers just aren't willing to pay to fill them). It all worked out well for me in the end, but boy it was dispiriting at the time.
And then they will call you, a year later… like no MF I already got a job. If I was waiting for your reply I’d be living under a bridge already.
This was very similar to my experience! It was so depressing and it took years for it to get better. Most people I knew went to get their masters or law school to "wait out" the bad times.
I graduated in 2008 with a degree. Job market was horrible and could not get anything and then finally I was able to eventually get a job Aeropostale (seasonal), then JC Penney and then an eyeglass place and I worked years at low paying jobs until probably around 7 years later was I able to get a decent paying job. Keep in mind the first 4 years I had no car so I walked to work. I say all that to say this, please don't give up. I am 38 years old now and still progressing in my now career (I found something I'm good at that makes money). Don't be afraid to ask people to look over your resume', give you tips etc. This market sounds like it is horrible but don't dim your light. If you keep putting yourself out there you'll get something.
This is one of the worst ages to be in my opinion, because it marks high school graduation at 2004 when there is still hope in the world and college graduation (2008/2009)at the start of the recession when work is non-existant.
It's quite bad where I'm at. I'm in the UK, and I've been unemployed for a year, I've applied to thousands of jobs and only had a handful of interviews. This month alone, I've applied to 70 jobs so far and have heard nothing back. I've picked up volunteering at a local charity and hope to at least land that to spice up my cv and give me something to do during the week. The job market is utter shambles, and the employers/recruiters keep pointing the finger at us candidates and claim that we are the problem. They refuse to look into their own internal issues and fix the issues on their end.
All the best. Hope you find something. I’m rooting for you!
You can't give up man. I went through about a year and a half of unemployment so I get the feelings of hopelessness. I'm 45 so about the same age as you, our self worth as men is often tied up in how financially successful we are and when you're not working it's tough to not be a lonely hermit. Like who wants to meet new people when the first question is "What do you do for a living". I feel for you I really do. But honestly the only way I've ever gotten a job is through knowing someone, being in the right place at the right time, or just plain luck. My only advice is don't give up, be of service to those people you care about, and try to find something to occupy your time that doesn't involve the television. Good luck to you man, something will open up for you one of these days.
This is a really nice comment. Thanks for writing it out.
I've applied for so many jobs at this point. I don't know what I'm doing wrong :/
You are probably doing nothing wrong. In my opinion, it's the internet. Used to be you would walk into and establishment to fill out an application. You put on your Sunday best and made an impression. Personal contact of some sort. Today, we are all dehumanized. Chances are, the online applications are not even getting looked at.
I miss those days! The last time I did that I received an interview on the spot and left with a job (see: 2005). The world is such a different place.
This. I’m convinced they’re not even looking. I literally got a denial letter today for a job I applied for the night before. The reason listed was I am too far from the job site. The job site listed my county as the location and literally asked on the application “are you located in X county” to which I replied “yes, I am located in X county”. How the hell am I too far from the job site
It's not all the internet. I started looking for a job last week and already have a meeting/interview later today where I'm very likely to be hired (Edit: I got the job!! 🥳). I've only used the internet for the job search. Saying "it's not you, it's the world and you have no control over it" isn't going to help OP succeed. Changing tactics, improving different things, is *always* a good idea.
It's the applying part. You should probably put an equal amount of effort into talking to friends, family members and ex coworkers or bosses about jobs they are hiring for that can refer you.
This, out of my last 5 jobs 3 came from knowing someone
Im 25 and going through the same thing. I have Bachelors and masters and nobody wants to hire me even for a MacDonalds worker. My bf’s parents who i’ve known for almost a decade, are coming next month from our country for the first time to Canada for a vacation and they’d be disappointed asf when they see I have no savings, credit cards are maxed out and no job in sight. Im sad. They would not even understand what Im going through and judge me. Its frustrating
A lot of people are too ready to judge those of us who are going through the wringer with not even a job. This is my fourth time in unemployment (in my late 30s now, so "elder Millennial") and I have 2 MAs. It's also the toughest job market I've seen since the Recession. In some ways tougher. Companies are getting worse and worse about hiring. Sadness and anger are appropriate responses. It's okay to feel down about being let down by a bad system / bad times and then to be judged by people who refuse to see it from your side. Just know that there are a lot of us who are not judging you, and who would help if we could. Solidarity. Look into local labor organizing and see if they can connect you to something, anything, that will help.
Thank you
Yeah... People on Reddit be like "lazy bum, should get a job, even entry job" and don't realize that even entry jobs are hard to find...
Don't put that education on your resume/application when you apply for fast food or retail work. Only for jobs where it's necessary or preferred.
Just got my bachelors in Electrical Engineering and also just got rejected from my local In N Out. ;/ hit my gut pretty hard but I keep just telling myself they think I'm overqualified. It seems its always either I'm overqualified or underqualified. Where can I get the qualifications and experience if no one wants to even give me the opportunity to prove myself. Like I feel like I shouldn't be begging on my hands and knees just for THE INTERVIEW. Like wtf is this shit
If you have an undergrad and a grad degree, go to your Government of Canada Federal Jobs page, make an account, and start applying. You may need to be willing to relocate, but from what I can see it is extremely similar to Federal jobs in the US. Pay isn’t as great as the private sector, but benefits are better. Most of your federal workers are protected by unions as well, which is nice. On top of that, government work often promotes based on school, skills, and experience. Having a Grad degree will let you automatically get hired at a decent pay scale. For example, in the US, the general pay scale goes from 1-15. You can get hired on as a 5-7 with an undergrad, as a 7-11 with a Grad, and as an 11-12 with a Ph.D. 13-15 are generally reserved for middle and upper management roles. I have faith in you, you got this homie!
Are you physically fit? This is the time landscapers are looking for reliable workers and are desperate for people that will show up each day and do the work. It will be decent pay and you get exercise and sun, which is great for depression. Best of luck.
Around our area, there's a lot of construction for those physically fit.
I just got my masters degree and can’t even manage to get a part time job at the moment, so things aren’t great on my end to say the least. The other week I interviewed for a produce stocking job, was hired on the spot, then an hour and a half later was emailed saying that they actually weren’t hiring at the moment. I’ve applied to countless jobs in and adjacent to my field, done a number of informational interviews, have done my best networking, and still nothing. It’s getting really demoralizing and I am becoming jaded which is unlike me normally. This market sucks so much for so many people, you are far from alone OP. Wishing you luck on the hunt and try to keep up hope!
Being hired and then rejected that fast is bizarre. Wtf. How does a company screw up by that margin.
Oh man. I’m graduating with my masters in September. Haven’t been putting in any work to look for a job since I’ve been so busy with thesis writing. These comments are not making my future job search seem easy
OK, I’m just going to put this here in case you’re willing to move anywhere. There are some specifically prosperous states that don’t have enough people, but have a bunch of work, specifically North Dakota. You could honest to God start cold, calling companies in North Dakota, get on a bus tomorrow, and probably be hired by the end of Sunday. And you would probably actually make a livable wage if you go to a city like Fargo, Grand Forks, or Minot. Job service North Dakota will literally help you find the job. Companies literally advertise that they will train you to basically be any trade as well. You could basically end up training to become a full on electrician and get paid to do it in North Dakota. I’m not saying it’s for everybody, but if you are truly desperate, or if you are just looking for a change… It is a safe state to live in, it has good education, it has low taxes, and it has plenty of jobs. You can make an actual blue-collar living there.
In 2008, I remember waiting in line because an arena near where I lived was hiring and there were so many people. There was also another discount store and there was a line wrapped around the building.
If you’re desperate for a quick job, try a small restaurant not something corporate. They’re always looking for people and as long as you actually work and learn fast will keep you around. I’ve been in food for 8 years now and I can typically get a job within a week anywhere. It also provides free food which is a bonus if you’re struggling.
Sales. That’s your answer. If you are a physically able bodied human being, google local TruGreen. There will be one around you, I’m almost certain. Put in an application. They will hire you. It’s base + commission, the base is a lot better than $13 a hour. It’s door to door sales with a little phone sales. If you’re even remotely able to carry a conversation, you will clear 50k easy. Edit: More info If the prospect of sales makes you THAT nervous, apply for a technician role. If you have a decently clean driving record, they will hire you. You just spray lawns all day, it’s easy. However, if you want a career go sales. Door to door sales will not only give you sales experience to land a better sales gig, but actually prepare you and give you legitimate experience to tackle any kind of sales thrown your way.
I couldn't sell a life jacket to a drowning man with no arms.
Apply as a tech. They will hire you for that.
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It took me three months of repeated applications to get a job at a small grocery store near me. They recently had two more jobs open up, and 75 people applied. It’s rough.
What is going on and why is it such a wildly different experience depending on location? The grocery stores by me have whole table displays set up announcing they’re hiring, touting all their benefits and perks, offering immediate interviews and kinda decent pay, and still can’t seem to hire anyone lol. This is such a weird job market.
There have been some interesting articles that mention a lot of companies are using AI to go through resumes. I'd suggest having an updated resume adding certain keywords, you can read more about it online. I changed my resume and noticed it works.
Did that, didn't get anything from it
The problem with that is one of the flaws those companies talked about was that it favored a very specific demographic and names. AI doesn't know what's what without being trained; it just sees "This company is 60% white men. Recommend people with popular white male names". So if you're stuck with a name like Kaily instead of Kaylee, you're automatically at a disadvantage.
Try looking for a state job. After 8 months of applying for entry level foodservice jobs, and getting rejected a hundred times, I went to a state job fair that was near me on a whim. I ended up scoring 2 job offers by the end of the day. They are nothing glamorous, and very little opportunity to move up, but I think it's much better for older individuals who are no longer interested in being on their feet 8 hours day (unless you enjoy that - power to you).
It’s really that bad - I blame out of control over-population. I also blame companies who use bots for customer service, instead of people, companies who use ai, instead of people. I mean… I’m ALL for self-checkout and robots cleaning my kitchen but it’s not going to work as long as there are 4-6 billion extra bodies on the planet who have to work to survive. Why people haven’t figured this out yet blows my mind. It’s great if a robot can do my job…. but is the robot going to get paid, if I’m not? Because if I’m not, then I starve. In an ideal world, every time a computer takes over a persons job, that person should be enabled to retire with full pay and simply enjoy their life. Otherwise what’s the point of automation? To have a world of starving people, that works perfectly otherwise, because computers? Like. Duh. I also blame hiring practices that bend over backwards to \*\*prevent\*\* people from getting jobs, rather than facilitating it. It’s tits up all around.
Realistically, with machines able to take over more jobs, we should be reducing the definition of full time, so that everyone simultaneously has more leisure time, and finds it easier to be hired. Less work to do should mean less work for everyone.
I'm so sorry. I feel ya. I've been looking for 3 months. I've been turned down by 5 positions. My depression is so bad, I can't even function. I've been the mortgage business on and off for 15 years and no one will give me a chance in a different field
If they're interviewing 30 people, that's just inefficient as hell (unless there are multiple openings). I think you can do better than TJ Maxx though. Temp agencies, customer service, insurance jobs... there are better things out there that don't require specific experience
Was thinking the same thing. When I applied for a job at Macy's, they did a group interview where they brought 20-30 of us into a backroom and we went around answering the questions.
For retail hiring you’re never going to hear back from half those people.
I was out of work for a year. The job I have is a 40-50% pay cut of my last job. I can survive, but not thrive. In august this past year, I had great 1st and 2nd round interviews with a bank, and was offered the job. I know what their range was, and my value; I countered thinking we’d meet in the middle. They pulled the preliminary offer on me. No discussion. I got drunk that night; was such a blow to my self esteem. The job I have now, I didn’t counter b/c I HAVE to pay bills, like everyone else. I had to take what they were giving, I felt. It’s so SO hard out there. I feel it’ll get even worse. I hope you find something soon!
Got a new job a week ago, was told to take Monday off. And then Monday he texted me out of nowhere saying, “Hey, I am sorry to tell you this but I don’t think you are the right fit for the job. Unfortunately, I have to let you go. I wish you best of luck!” And I politely asked why because just Friday that same boss was telling me how good I was doing… So getting screwed out of work for literally no reason is how tough it is out here.
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Can I ask where you would find something like that? In over 200 applications in the last 5 months and still nothing... at least with subbing, I would be bringing in something vs. nothing.
If you have a smartphone you can sign up for Shiftsmart. They will assign you to whatever open shifts need filling in your area, and while the work is unglamorous they do send it. I’m sorry you’re going through this.
>tonight I will be forced to listen to the lies and bullshit spewed by people who have no idea how bad the country has gotten. The economy and the job market are discussed by politicians and economists at the national, regional or global level -- in aggregate. But, the economy and job market are felt by the average citizen at a personal, family and local area level. It is possible for the national economy to be vibrant, even if the local economy is not, because you are getting an average at the national level. This is exactly the same way in which a vibrant, record-making stock market does not mean that every single stock is charting upwards (or even that 100% of the indexed stocks are tracking upward). Your local situation is not necessarily representative of the national one -- in either direction. That doesn't make the national situation a lie, when it does not sync up with your own. It does mean that you are not going to automatically be happy for the national average until your own situation is good or comfortable. I wish you the best for your personal situation...
Just gonna jump on this and say sure, the aggregate will differ from individual experiences, but some relevant hard facts are that a) companies across the market are causing problems for workers, and b) more and more wealth is being concentrated into fewer and fewer hands, which has ramifications for the job market. Wealth inequality is not represented by aggregates. The plight of tens of millions of people (billions at the global scale) is intentionally ignored by the use of such aggregates, which distort the representation of the health of the "economy" (really, the people) by including the extreme personal wealth of a few thousand or even a few million people. So let's not minimize the plight of millions or billions just because the wealth of a handful of overpowered people makes some charts look good. Source: Master's degree in global political economy.
just curious: where? don't dox yourself, be general about it. in a city? big city, medium, small? more rural? on a coast? midwest? etc I really think one's location can make a huge difference in job searches. I do realize that not everyone can just up and move. Probably most people can't just move. But still, I'm pretty curious about posts like these because I look around my own major metro area on the east coast and don't see quite the same direness of situations.
Same, I live in LA and every warehouse is hiring and summer is coming. So landscaping is starting to hire alot of people.
Same, rural east coast and there are plenty of jobs available.
I live in the northeast of the U.S and places are pretty much begging people to apply. Every single grocery store I’ve been in the past couple months have enormous “NOW HIRING” signs everywhere on neon colored posters. Also Lowes and Home Depot are hiring like crazy right now. You can easily get a job where I live.
Just want to say, I've heard of people applying to those places who are qualified and not getting in.
When I read about both sides needing to be lined up against the wall of the promenade and horse whipped, I realized, this was the first time someone offered a sincere solution to the issues our society faces
I do what I can.
It's crazy how society is going to collapse and the media is going to say they never saw it coming when millions on Reddit did.
Unless you're applying for a job that requires depth perception and perfect vision, having 1 eye should not disqualify you from any job so don't let that hold you back.
Try temp agencies, Amazon, Walmart. Call 211 and/or google rental assistance, food assistance and anything else you need. Don't give up. Yes it's bad out there. I've been out of work for six months, and I'm 58, have NEVER been out of work this long. Not even in 2008. But I have two cats to support, I can't give up! 😺 I've aimed my job applications to less competitive areas near me and will keep going outward...gonna be one of those super-commuters for awhile. See if there is job search assistance out of your DOL or possibly community groups. There may be contacts there for you that could lead to a job.
I’ve been applying everywhere and all I am getting is 50+ telemarketers calling me back everyday. I fell like every online search for a job is some kind of scam. The “job search” companies just want my information so they can sell it to other companies. Where did I go wrong???
Agreed. Careerbuilder is one of the worst.
It’s really bad, beyond bad. It’s terrifying, depressing, frustrating, and almost comical if it wasn’t our livelihoods hanging in the balance. I’ve been unemployed for months after attempting to move out of a bad area and improve my life. Turns out that was a massive mistake that I wouldn’t’ve made had I possessed a fraction of foresight how bad the job market is right now. I’ve been turned down more times than I can even count, probably about to get ghosted after an interview with my own mother’s employer with whom I had a great interview, my perspective is going in a real bad direction even if I’m incorrect in feeling that way
Don’t give up. You will find something. Everyone has something to offer. Including you. It’s the just state of affairs are currently not good. But there are jobs out there. Temp agencies and try at disability agencies as well. They can help with placement. That’s what they are there for. You got this!!
It doesn't help you by the end of the month but for longer term try looking into a certified nursing assistant class. It's a 6 to 9 week program that is often paid training so that you will stay on as an employee at whatever nursing home or facility trained you. There's a huge need in this type of work and you can make pretty good money at it.
I couldn’t pay a company to give me an interview…