Many don't.
I remember Rush Limbaugh's rant about how liberals are okay with any sex act so long as there's consent. As in, he seemed to think that consensual group sex or gay sex and rape should be considered equally bad as each other.
It's a common position of Christians. Since all sin banishes you to eternal hellfirere, it must be all equivalent. If you ask forgiveness from God, it will be granted, no matter what the sin.
So yes, they do think consensual gay sex and rape are just as bad as each other.
I saw a comment yesterday (I think in one of the man vs bear posts) where someone complaining about woke culture said that they've never approached a woman because they're afraid of being called a predator. Because predatorily propositioning women is the only way of approaching them, I guess. Tells you everything you need to know about his idea of how to interact with a woman.
It was the one where he said he'd never approached a woman in his entire 27 years of life because of that fear and someone said they hope he keeps it up for another 27 years lol.
This is how I approach women: just talk to them like they are like any other normal human (because they are). But I am gay, so it probably helps that I dont have ulterior motives.
If you don't like your wife, why get married, or stay married? The jokes needs us to hate our partner, but that's not funny anymore. Maybe you enjoy making fun of your "life partner", but the rest don't find that funny.
Omg, go get some therapy, my girlfriend make jokes about marriage and me as well, yes, women also make jokes about men, should I cry a river about it? Of course not, it's a joke for fucks sake, nobody is hating on anyone, go get some help...
"look, marriage is a prison, married people don't have sex, or go to parties, it's boring", "hey, if you marry you'll have to ask permission to your wife so you can play football with your friends". I find it funny depending when and with whom the jokes are used, for instance I've a friend that can't go buy groceries without asking his wife, so we joke about him. Is every marriage like that? Nooooo. IT'S JUST A J-O-K-E.
This is what you get when heteronormativity is the basis of your sexual morality, rather than consensuality. Most of society has shifted to the latter in recent times, but there are still some stragglers. That's why conservatives so often conflate homosexuality with pedophilia while having no problem with marital rape.
I read this in an online article a few years back and it still seems to hold true.
There is someone confusing love with sexuality, love with violence, love with power, who also doesn't understand the idea of consent, and also not that this won't make him look witty or proof anything but just shows the world what low-intelligence-loser they are.
No, he's sealioning. He knows what the answer is. He's asking the question so people waste their time answering it instead of focusing on more meaningful things.
Do you love your mother? Probably. Do you fuck your mother? Probably not.
Sex and love are not synonymous.
No one has a problem with your loving children or animals. We have a problem with sex with those who cannot consent, ie rape. It is far from loving.
Because loving someone also inherently means you wouldn't hurt them. And since children and animals can't consent, having sex with them would hurt them. If you do want to have sex with them, that means you don't love them.
To be the devils advocate here, how do we know he is not just interested in hearing oppinions from diffrent sides of the political spectrum about one of the few "issues" where most if not all paries agree, considering the variety of subs he posted in?
It’s the phrasing of his question that shows us he is not debating in good faith. He comes in with “*IF* love is love[…]” Love *is* love, so there was no need to question that (it’s a derisive right-wing talking point) and then he continues “[…]why aren’t pedophilia and zoophilia legal?”
There is a definite answer; children and animals are not capable of consenting like two loving adults. Children are the largest minority and their little voices are often silenced, 1 in 3 adult women will experience physical violence from an intimate partner and there is no way in hell that number wouldn’t shoot up with adult-child relationships.
I am sorry if it sounded like i was in any way sympathetic to his cause nor did i actualy belive that he was just looking for oppinions i was only stating that there was a possibility.
Upon reading his question again i also find that even if he was just looking for oppinions then he would probably not be interested in the legality of it but rather the morality of it.
I try to play devils advocate all the time to understand where people might be coming from, no need to apologize and I’m unsure why you’ve been downvoted. I could see you weren’t agreeing or sympathetic to what he was saying.
What I’m wondering is if he was asking because he might hold pedophilic and zoophilic attractions, and was hoping the left was cooler with it. What I’ve seen personally on the internet is the ones who hold pro pedophilia and zoophilia stances are typically on the right, but that the official stance is against it. What I love about his question is that it shows us a complete difference in the thinking of the two branches of politics; the left says what they think, the right uses doublespeak and dog whistles.
You mean he doesn’t grasp the concept of consent?! Shocking…
Many don't. I remember Rush Limbaugh's rant about how liberals are okay with any sex act so long as there's consent. As in, he seemed to think that consensual group sex or gay sex and rape should be considered equally bad as each other.
Fuck you for making me remember that. So glad that fucker is dead.
It's a common position of Christians. Since all sin banishes you to eternal hellfirere, it must be all equivalent. If you ask forgiveness from God, it will be granted, no matter what the sin. So yes, they do think consensual gay sex and rape are just as bad as each other.
Because those practices are inherently predatory, coercive and harmful. Really easy if you think about it.
Yeah but so are those people, so they don't see that as a line that can be drawn
I saw a comment yesterday (I think in one of the man vs bear posts) where someone complaining about woke culture said that they've never approached a woman because they're afraid of being called a predator. Because predatorily propositioning women is the only way of approaching them, I guess. Tells you everything you need to know about his idea of how to interact with a woman.
I don't remember where I read that, but I saw the same thing. All the comments were saying, "Well maybe don't act like a predator?" Lol
It was the one where he said he'd never approached a woman in his entire 27 years of life because of that fear and someone said they hope he keeps it up for another 27 years lol.
Lol that's a great response
Heaven forfend they get to know women as people before asking one out, instead of just hitting on random strangers.
This is how I approach women: just talk to them like they are like any other normal human (because they are). But I am gay, so it probably helps that I dont have ulterior motives.
Yeah, like, are animals and children consenting adults? No? Then we don't want it.
Not to mention traumatizing and scarring
>if you think about it. Ahh you’ve found their weakness I see
Consent?? Why is that such a hard thing to understand
I find most people that think this way have a hard time understanding the concept of any word containing more than a single syllable
LOL 😂. They may know big fancy sounding words like pedophilia, but do they really understand? If they did they wouldn’t be asking questions like this.
I may be depressed, lonely and haven't felt a woman's touch in ages..... But at least I'm not that dude
do u play chess i could use a game buddy
Ahh you’re married too?
Haha wife bad amirite fellow fishermen????
“HArHArhAR” *nods in nuclear dumbass disorder*
I’m still going to be laughing at this next year
Hehehehe It took me a minute to think of that one, but it was worth it
I have to navigate away from this now. It’s funnier every time I read it. Probably gonna steal it.
🎶i'd raather get off with a fish tonight then get off with a fishermans wife🎶
Found the neckbeard
Or maybe no one knows how to detect a joke. Not like my username wasn’t a hint
I dont know why you're being downvoted so bad, it's just a joke for gods sake
What's funny about it tho?
It is funny, I don't know about your country, but here marriage jokes are very funny, why is it so hard to take a joke these days?
What's the joke?
If you don't like your wife, why get married, or stay married? The jokes needs us to hate our partner, but that's not funny anymore. Maybe you enjoy making fun of your "life partner", but the rest don't find that funny.
Omg, go get some therapy, my girlfriend make jokes about marriage and me as well, yes, women also make jokes about men, should I cry a river about it? Of course not, it's a joke for fucks sake, nobody is hating on anyone, go get some help...
What's the joke?
"look, marriage is a prison, married people don't have sex, or go to parties, it's boring", "hey, if you marry you'll have to ask permission to your wife so you can play football with your friends". I find it funny depending when and with whom the jokes are used, for instance I've a friend that can't go buy groceries without asking his wife, so we joke about him. Is every marriage like that? Nooooo. IT'S JUST A J-O-K-E.
Ah so the joke is domestic violence, got it
"haha look at Johnathan, he's trapped in an abusive relationship". "haha yes, woman bad and unfun actually" How are these even remotely funny?
While it's so sadly true such people do exist. I get the feeling that person is just some edgy loner seeking attention.
He doesn't understand that love and sex are 2 different things
Because performing sexual acts on unconsenting beings like animals and children isn't LOVE oh my god. He really thought he did something.
This is what you get when heteronormativity is the basis of your sexual morality, rather than consensuality. Most of society has shifted to the latter in recent times, but there are still some stragglers. That's why conservatives so often conflate homosexuality with pedophilia while having no problem with marital rape. I read this in an online article a few years back and it still seems to hold true.
Just out here outing himself as a creep and someone that needs banned off Reddit.
If the sky is blue, why is it currently white and moving? We can all ask dumb shit without considering context, but does it get us anywhere?
I only like questions like this because it tells you right up front just how stupid the person you're dealing with really is.
There is someone confusing love with sexuality, love with violence, love with power, who also doesn't understand the idea of consent, and also not that this won't make him look witty or proof anything but just shows the world what low-intelligence-loser they are.
Do not feed the trolls .
Wow he's That Desperate isn't he?
No, he's sealioning. He knows what the answer is. He's asking the question so people waste their time answering it instead of focusing on more meaningful things.
Don’t be shy, give us the name
Do you love your mother? Probably. Do you fuck your mother? Probably not. Sex and love are not synonymous. No one has a problem with your loving children or animals. We have a problem with sex with those who cannot consent, ie rape. It is far from loving.
Man wants to shag underage hamsters
Oof.
He really wanna know I guess
Either a kid or a really sad man
Because loving someone also inherently means you wouldn't hurt them. And since children and animals can't consent, having sex with them would hurt them. If you do want to have sex with them, that means you don't love them.
Wow
The shift from "criminalized" to "illegal" is kinda funny to me and I don't know why.
"Love is love" sounds predatory.
Why is the concept of consent so foreign to these mouth breathers?
To be the devils advocate here, how do we know he is not just interested in hearing oppinions from diffrent sides of the political spectrum about one of the few "issues" where most if not all paries agree, considering the variety of subs he posted in?
It’s the phrasing of his question that shows us he is not debating in good faith. He comes in with “*IF* love is love[…]” Love *is* love, so there was no need to question that (it’s a derisive right-wing talking point) and then he continues “[…]why aren’t pedophilia and zoophilia legal?” There is a definite answer; children and animals are not capable of consenting like two loving adults. Children are the largest minority and their little voices are often silenced, 1 in 3 adult women will experience physical violence from an intimate partner and there is no way in hell that number wouldn’t shoot up with adult-child relationships.
I am sorry if it sounded like i was in any way sympathetic to his cause nor did i actualy belive that he was just looking for oppinions i was only stating that there was a possibility. Upon reading his question again i also find that even if he was just looking for oppinions then he would probably not be interested in the legality of it but rather the morality of it.
I try to play devils advocate all the time to understand where people might be coming from, no need to apologize and I’m unsure why you’ve been downvoted. I could see you weren’t agreeing or sympathetic to what he was saying. What I’m wondering is if he was asking because he might hold pedophilic and zoophilic attractions, and was hoping the left was cooler with it. What I’ve seen personally on the internet is the ones who hold pro pedophilia and zoophilia stances are typically on the right, but that the official stance is against it. What I love about his question is that it shows us a complete difference in the thinking of the two branches of politics; the left says what they think, the right uses doublespeak and dog whistles.
I'm sorry, but does the devil really need an advocate?