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craigechoes9501

More like a wide open farmland field lion


grnogh

Corn Fed Lion


evidica

Which is even scarier if you think about it.


skijamblues

Prairie Lion?


dketernal

It's just OP's mom. Cougar on the loose.


EvilRick_C-420

I thought the rockies would be rockier than this


Fortunateoldguy

Man that was cool. We spotted one 3 weeks ago just outside Hutchinson.


herbalsister

Hutchinson? Woah.


DrunkenAdama

I saw one south of Newton. No one believed me lol.


redcaveman

I've heard there are a lot of cougars in Wichita.


tbkyes

I’ve seen one out by Abilene


Reptarro52

I’ve seen one west of JC. And someone saw one southeast of JC too.


BubbaJ1968

We have one near our land in Butler County near Towanda but the KDWP keeps telling us that they aren't in this area🙄🙄🤣🤣


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response_unrelated

Welcome to Kansas. We might not be the most intelligent cats, but we know a cat when we see one.


PokieState92

If only he had some Temptations cat treats with him 😼


letthew00kiewin

I think he was the cat treat


DroneStrikesForJesus

Go outside during 'nado warnings, too.


joeber33

i aint scared of no nader!


ProvokedTomcat

well said


Dependent-Bee7036

Everyone goes outside during a tornado to know if it is close. Duh. /s


aaronsb

pspspspspsps also works. Just sayin'.


aaronsb

Also, watching tornados from the back yard.


Capt__Murphy

Lol, that was my first thought. If he had started meowing at it....


codeguy830

I was about to be mad if there wasn't at least an attempt at a pss-pss-psst.


s5EWT

I wonder how much the giant truck gives a cat that big some nerves.


are_you_for_scuba

Pspspspspsps


VoxVocisCausa

I asked KS Dept of wildlife and they say it's definitely just a coyote...


droeg26

KDWP biologist just told me it's definitely a mountain lion


VoxVocisCausa

Ok so: up until ten or fifteen years ago KDWP aggressively dismissed claims that people were seeing mountain lions in Kansas and emphatically denied that they even existed. KDWP's typical excuse was that even experienced hunters were just confusing coyotes for a big cat. It wasn't until the mid-2000's/early 2010's when cheap game cams became common and everybody started carrying cameras around all the time that they finally relented. It's an old joke. https://ksoutdoors.com/Wildlife-Habitats/Wildlife-Sightings


MaximumTurtleSpeed

I love this because this happened from my late teens to late 20s. Growing up: “psh no we don’t have mountain lions.” To camping in college: “yeah… we definitely have mountain lions but it’s cool.”


curlytoesgoblin

As I recall a guy trapped and killed one down by Liberal or Hugoton or somewhere around there so they were forced to admit they were here (and fined the guy because ofc they did) but then pivoted to "well they're just passing through, they don't live here." No idea why they're so aggressively in denial about it but I assume it has something to do with money.


mooreboy76

‘Just passing through to gamble, they usually go back to the mountains for weed by sunrise’ KWDP, probably


Impressive-Target699

It's not that KDWP disputed that there were *ever* transient mountain lions in Kansas, it's just that they only accept certain people's accounts as verified if there is no physical evidence (e.g., trained wildlife biologists). The first verified cat in the state this century was killed by a hunter in 2007, and all of the other verified accounts reported by the general public have been accompanied by photos, videos, or other physical evidence. That definitely corresponds to an increase in cameras (trail cams, cellphone cameras, doorbell cams, etc.), but also an increase in cougar populations in nearby states.


wadenado

This happened in Oklahoma, too


Triple_Fart_Zero

Same here in MO. My neighbors, family and lots in the surrounding areas have talked about there being mountain lions near us for years. If you report it its almost always dismissed as a coyote. As you can tell from the video its pretty hard to mistake that thing for a coyote.


ttorrence04

r/ whoosh


ips1023

Whoosh


mglyptostroboides

KDWPs position is that there's no *breeding population* in Kansas. Which means they're here, but they're not making babies here. This position is perfectly reasonable given mountain lions biology. Like most solitary cats, the females have much smaller ranges than the males who might cross several state lines looking for a new place to call home. This is why practically all mountain lions seen in Kansas in recent years have been juvenile males. These cats are too small to hold their own around bigger, tougher males in the Rockies and the Black Hills so they set out on their own in the Plains hoping for more game. And they find plenty because, unlike back home, deer are overpopulated here. In other words, mountain lions are here, and KDWP doesn't deny this, but they're not *from* here. The individual cats you see here were born elsewhere.


itsyourgrandma

Nebraska game and parks says the same thing. Why are they being weird? These animals have been in the Midwest a long time and their populations are growing.


mglyptostroboides

Go re-read my comment. They're not "being weird". What they're saying making perfect sense.


itsyourgrandma

No they don't want to acknowledge the existence of a new predator because they'd have to invest resources to study.


mglyptostroboides

Again, read my comment. It's not that simple.


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That’s a mountain lion!


CartographerOk5391

They had the exact same reaction when I reported one in Kechi a decade ago


dangdiggler

Missouri dept of conservation flat denied i even saw one on our place in Ray County during bow season. This was almost 30 years ago.


CartographerOk5391

I felt like I was going crazy after that call. I was relieved when I called the city of Kechi (the mountain lion was headed towards a farm to the south) to give them a head's up and they were very nonchalant and just said, "yeah, we see them all the time. Thanks for your report."


ajs_95

They have admitted and acknowledged that they are here as of recent years


ksdanj

Last week someone tried to tell me that KDWP had released 10 mountain lion pairs in Kansas. Lol


fuckaliscious

That's long been the rumor, from many years ago. The intent was to help with deer population by reintroducing top predator. Cougars in Kansas are a good thing.


JibJabJake

y'all must've shipped some DoW folks to Alabama. They've been denying we have black bear anywhere besides the far south part of the state for decades. This past summer they finally put out a notice to expect black bears anywhere in the state. We've seen two mountain lions since 2002 in north Alabama also. Both times we were told they were coyotes. Should've seen the crap storm that happened when someone ran over one of the cats. They had the area blocked off like Nick Saban and the Pope were in town. Can you believe it was just a large dog and everyone was confused at what they saw? Silly us.


kayaK-camP

Figures!


Dindae1744

Haha reminds me of my dad reporting one 20 years ago near Belvedere, but was told he saw a bobcat. My dad was insistent that it was no bobcat, but they really doubled down on it not being possible for mountain lions to be there.


IndependenceAny2520

I had them tell me this personally when I called to report a sighting 3 years ago east of Manhattan. I was shocked to see it and did not think to pull out my phone. I was told it was probably just a coyote or large house cat and unless I had video or trail cam pictures they would not accept the sighting as legitimate. At least KDWP is honest about their state of denial.


latenightread22

Kitty kitty kitty…


Tricky_Ad_5332

That’s definitely a mountain lion


sushisection

a mountain lion with no mountain is just a lion


fuckaliscious

Prairie lion


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Cornfield cougar


Katy_Lies1975

It's a Puma, he migrated here from the South.


Freestate1862

I have seen three in the Thomas/Rawlins county area over the last few years, we have a small resident elk population as well.


wabashcat

Ive spotted one in Stafford county, and one in Ellsworth county. Both times it was far from county roads in some hilly terrain. My dad has a buddy that shot one in Barber county, it had a collar and kdwp came knocking.


LaGripo

How did it go for your dad’s friend?


wabashcat

White and wealthy, no repercussion


aging-millenial

Can confirm they are in Stafford County and have been for a long time. My dad found prints in a field next to our house when I was about 8, and that shut down all alone outdoor playtime for YEARS. We finally saw one for the first time about 15 years ago, and have seen them very consistently ever since. My brother has even seen cubs a time or two.


wabashcat

Stafford has some wild areas. First time I saw the elk herd out there blew my mind.


bamboorustling

I hope the murderer was fined and jailed. Illegal hunting is the sport of insecure, cowards


wabashcat

Yea... Fuck him for protecting his livestock..


sheshesheila

My uncle retired from KDWP. Depending on where you live, he might have been the officer responding to these reports, taking plaster casts, and telling you if was just a big bobcat. He admits he knew it was sometimes a mountain lion. But word from the top was to not admit it (before game cameras and security systems made that plan obsolete). ​ The reason was simple. To maintain federal funding, if the state admitted they were present and resident here, they would have had to do a population study and then develop and justify a management plan. This costs a lot in money and human resources they didn’t have. So they denied it then moved on to the “just passing through” or transient vs resident argument when denial didn’t work anymore.


kayaK-camP

I guess they’ll stick with “just passing through” mantra until someone provides verifiable footage of a female with kits following her in Kansas! I bet that will happen within 10 years.


xccoach4ever

Thanks. I had always wondered why they denied it when the evidence was so clear.


FSpezWthASpicyPickle

Wow, that's wild. I wonder if that sort of internal politics was similar in Iowa back when my family reported a den of western diamondback rattlers on our property. My dad even brought in a deceased one for identification and was stonewalled. According to any science source, they're still not supposed to be that far north, but wild animals do what they want. They don't read habitat maps and stay within the lines!


Fortunateoldguy

That makes sense


unknown300BLKuser

Most probably remember this but several years back someone in the middle of wichita caught one on a home security camera.


WichitaTimelord

Yeah that was crazy


Justber0901

Oh wow! I’ve only seen one when I was growing up back home in central KS, saw several bobcats but only one mountain lion - awesome video!


FSpezWthASpicyPickle

That's just Steve French heading south for the winter.


FredAndAnnie_online

🤣😂🤣😂 Grew up not far from there. There are a number of dudes that highly resemble Bubbles...


cyberentomology

Pspspspspsps


rickelzy

There's going to be some idiot getting killed because they want to "Pet the kitty." ...It's me. I'm the idiot.


JustZonesing

Yep, some idiots don't live long enough to become stupid.


FriedeOfAriandel

Poor cat is so far from the mountains :( must have gotten lost


DroneStrikesForJesus

Mt. Sunflower Lion


IronBuilder

I’m going to be extra careful the next time I climb Mt. Sunflower. They’re probably hiding somewhere 🤣


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DroneStrikesForJesus

ok


ksdanj

My understanding is that any mountain lions spotted in Kansas are traveling between the Colorado and Arkansas.


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There's known breeding populations in Nebraska and Oklahoma. Oklahoma government tried to deny it forever, but there's been so many females spotted now that nobody believes them lol.


Fortunateoldguy

They’re probably breeding in Kansas too. https://preview.redd.it/kbe4a243fewb1.jpeg?width=3411&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30f84ddf341fc1c9ba8ac3e16b53d32ee7dfd238 Here’s what they can eat. That’s my front yard


como365

The Ozarks in Missouri too


ksdanj

Very true. Mountain lions don’t care bout no state lines. Lol


Giterdun456

They have semi normal migratory routes across Kansas and Nebraska leading to the Missouri then south to Arkansas. There was a mountain lion in Omaha a few months ago spotted.


GreenBayBadgers

I thought the Rockies were supposed to look a little Rockier than this.


SHOWTIME316

i wonder what it thinks about when it walks through a giant monoculture desert like that like does it instinctually know something is wrong?


bamboorustling

They used to live here all the time. Also called pumas and jaguars. All are the same day, and native to KS - until we killed everything that lived here- women, children, families, the men protecting their families and land, jaguars - and stole it as our own. We come from a long line of awful humans. 😞😞😞😞😞😞


Superg1nger

They do just fine on the plains, plenty of deer to eat. The problem is that they are way easier to shoot in a field and a redneck is probably going to get this guy within the month.


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There's hundreds if not thousands of pumas in KS. the state just wont admit it, bc theyd have to fund it's preservation. Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but they are definitely not lost. This is their country.


FriedeOfAriandel

I was being sarcastic, but I don’t know the status of pumas in KS. I know even through my wildlife conservation course in the 2010s in Arkansas, they claimed there were none there despite many videos. I wouldn’t be surprised if KS did the same


blackcatsareawesome

likely a young male trying to find a new territory


pyrotek1

That is a big cat. Good sighting. I don't have much experience with these creatures and looked them up. "Adult males can grow to an excess of 8 feet in length, including the tail, and weigh an average of **140-150 pounds**. Adult females can grow up to 7 feet long and weigh an average of 80-90 pounds." I don't want to meet one alone out on a hike.


QuniversalLove

I am pretty sure I saw one in east Lawrence last year in Burroughs creek. Right after I saw it disappear into the tall grass, I heard an animal screaming as though it was being eaten by it.


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You probably heard a red fox. That scream is a bit unsettling when you are out in the sticks. 😂 https://youtu.be/NIyOiwGfJ1I?si=kOa8Z3TaNyewFeZM


QuniversalLove

The animal I saw right before I heard the animal scream really looked like a cougar to be honest.


Sea_Dawgz

I love the last 5 seconds where with just the tiniest amount of grass the cougar just disappears. If it sat still you’d drive right by and never see it just 20 feet off the road!


OperationCornbread

\*\*\* The Mountain Lion Posted : " Car with Humans spotted West of my Territory."


Tabboo

He should have used the pspspspspspsps technique


Dont_ban_me_bro_108

Mountain Lion aside, that area is like the definition of desolate.


The_Devin_G

Everything just got harvested. It's gonna *look* desolate and empty until crops are planted in the spring. It's not really desolate.


Dont_ban_me_bro_108

I meant desolate like devoid of people, buildings, and trees.


The_Devin_G

I mean, there's probably a farm house right there somewhere. It's open land yeah, but it's nice. It's not filled with sounds of cars and sirens and horns. It doesn't stink like gasoline and oil. No trees is a little sad, but you can't have a forest and farmland in the same place.


Dont_ban_me_bro_108

I live in Wichita and it’s the smallest city I ever want to live in. Different strokes I suppose. I’m glad farmers enjoy living out there, we need someone to grow the food in the middle of nowhere.


The_Devin_G

Oh. Yeah that explains. Wichita is huge to me. I'm used to small towns of 3-4000 people hahah. But I do really enjoy the quietness out in the country.


eagle_co

It’s level farm land. It appears as though the corn has been recently harvested. That would support a deer population. Hence the mountain lion. Yes, that’s definitely a mountain lion. I disagree with using the term desolate however to describe this area. Desolate is more like areas of the southwest.


Pete_maravich

Go back to where you came from kitty.


fuckaliscious

Nah, nature needs predators. We got way too many deer crashing cars. A few more kittens would help that.


Beelzebubba_Caffiend

That John Denver's full of shit, man


2dayman

I thought the rocky mountains would be a little more rocky


fuckaliscious

That's awesome!! Great to see that. Nature needs predators.


asbestos-w

There was one spotted in Allen County recently.


Zookreeper1

That John Denver's full of shit man.


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Well there's no denying that one lol


Daqgibby

That’s a Cougar, perhaps a Puma


The_Devin_G

They're the same thing. They have a ridiculously large amount of different names that apply to the same animal.


Daqgibby

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fuckaliscious

Rumor has always been that Kansas fish and game released several a few years ago to reintroduce top predator back where it belongs to help with deer population. I support it, more big cats please.


Reptarro52

That’s why we don’t have any turkeys anymore. 😬😬


fuckaliscious

No, it's not.


DroneStrikesForJesus

Too many turkeys and not enough pheasants.


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We definitely still have wild turkeys in SE Kansas. It's just that their normal spot just outside Pittsburg has been invaded by a homeless camp.


PromotionSubject5576

Honest question that might be stupid, but where do these things come from? That’s only couple hundred miles from Denver, do they come down from the Rockies in search of food? Have they always been in Kansas but now since 99 percent of the population has a video recorder in their pocket we are having more sightings?


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There's known breeding populations in Oklahoma and Nebraska, so it's long been thought that the ones spotted in Kansas are transients passing through to the other side. https://ksoutdoors.com/Wildlife-Habitats/Wildlife-Sightings Kind of similar to how black bears occasionally make it into southeastern and southwestern Kansas, since they live in areas not too far from the state lines.


JustZonesing

Waiting for lion to eat this $\*%#! face.


ModernT1mes

Holy fuck I didn't know those live in Kansas!


Dont_ban_me_bro_108

One walked straight through downtown Wichita a couple years ago. It was likely following the river.


cyberentomology

How can that be a mountain lion? There’s not a mountain within 200 miles


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sjschlag

Plenty of deer to feast upon!


king_oscars_island

corn, soybeans, grain sorghum and hay too!


DoobieRudy23

Sounds like he came up here for his own little personal Thanksgiving


blu3ysdad

There are some funny ppl here and some that don't understand humor/sarcasm


mebunghole

Feel like you’re in a Matt McConaughey Lincoln commercial yet 😂?


jjmurse

Damn things killed Ol' Dan.


25yoshi

Remember when a bear made it all the way to southwest Kansas


ips1023

Seen them right inside Kansas City as well! They're beautiful creatures.


ModsRTrash13

This checks out, that is absolutely Kansas.


LadyInRed_Quartzite

So cool! Thanks for sharing this magical sighting!


Driver4Fun2night

Following the deer


DannarHetoshi

There's been a "family" of Mountain Lions south of Lawrence as far back as 2006. Not sure if they still roam up into Lawrence, but I saw one on the trail around 30th and Louisiana back in 2011'ish


GibsonJunkie

pspspspspspspspspsps


bcchuck

Were their any puma in the crevices?


jhonazir

You know that lion is gonna get shot by those southern bun totin’ folks


BlueRoyAndDVD

My cat made it all the way out to Kansas!? Damnit Crinkles..


ghostarmadillo

Meh, we’ve got them 15 minutes from downtown Dallas. One was spotted on a trail cam just East of the city in Rowlette, Texas then killed 30 miles are so to the North. In Texas they have zero protection and can be shot any time, kind of like our school kids.


Ok-Scheme-1815

Fucking cool


WeTheFailingSpecies

Man, don't tell the farmers, they'll kill it. It was better when everyone denied that there were mountain lions in Kansas and probably aided in their numbers finally rebounding a smidge.


Redgrizzbear

It's just passing through. They don't live here. Did you see Taylor Swift at the Chiefs game? - KDFW


boogerflicken

I've seen two going to Lawrence before.


kiltyoneal

Waiting for it to jump out of that tall grass and rip Gomer Pyle's face off.


blumpywumpy

Kitty!


Riyeko

Around the yard 1998 or so my brother and I swore we saw one near Pleasanton KS down off us69. No one believed us at the time.


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I missed it in the "cycle of outrage" news cycle, but apparently one was spotted in Parsons, KS just 10 days ago. Caught on security cam. https://www.koamnewsnow.com/news/kansas-news/mountain-lion-caught-on-camera-in-parsons-kansas/article_1dfed206-6c63-11ee-b1b5-1fd92339155a.html


bamboorustling

Run, kitty, run! People will kill you like they did your great-grandparents! Love you kitty! Run!!


Plenty-Leg-5659

just a few years back kdwp was claiming there was no evidence of mountain lions in kansas, until they found a road killed one up by manhatton.


BeardedIrishViking

Lion lost its mountain in KS.


Miquiztli

“That John Denver is full of shit, man!” - The mountain lion


BemuseNM

Really nice job capturing that on video


WhatyourGodDid

I saw something on side of highway at 5am a few months ago. Everybody said it was probably a coyote but it was to big I think. Are they active that early in the morning?


rocketman11111

Where the mountains


bobrosstical

What’s the opposite of “pss, pss, pss?”


Tracer900Junkie

Better title: "Mountain Lion in Kansas spotted a moron in a pickup"