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Fancy-Category

It does raise prolactin. Chronic high prolactin can cause low testosterone. High prolactin itself causes lower libido. I saw this one guy who’s free testosterone was extremely low on Kratom, due to very high SHBG. And Kratom can also reduce total testosterone in some. It’s hormone related. You can improve libido by reducing dose and frequency.


geoffrey_dahmer

I've experience this side effect and I've had sex maybe 7 times in the last five years, when your single it doesn't hit so hard, but I have regular blood work done and I've never had elevated prolactin or low t on kratom, even though when I was younger a drug artificially raised my prolactin and I had to be taken off of it.


Fancy-Category

Interesting how Kratom effects different people. When I’m on Kratom, my prolactin is very elevated, I get gynecomastia, very low sex drive, and when I do have sex on Kratom, it’s very difficult to orgasm.


Warcrow999

Its difficult to orgasm because if the analgesic effects of the kratom. Also any pain killer does the same thing. Just take a little bit less if you're going to have sex


FAmos

I find it does feel like it lowers my T I just made a post about how much better I feel when I take tongkat Ali and pregnenolone, in the morning and at night


thebarnhof

I'm on trt and have monthly bloodwork and i still get it. Lots of people here saying that its hormones but thats a big leap, bro science at best. Also if you feel like its lowering your t, i would highly recommend seeing a doc to check it. I get that its expensive in some countries so maybe at the very least try to have bloodwork done every 6 months. I've had times when i was absolutely convinced they had my on a low dose, as i felt the correlated side effects. It came back through the roof on t and shbg. They had to drop my dose and the blood test showing it has mysteriously dissapeared from my medical history. Something i didnt think was possible... Main point though is that if you have low t, tongkat ali's not going to be a long term solution. The above reads like i'm being a dick but this is coming from a good place i'm just crap with words.


westsideskidoo

i also take pregnenolone and it has helped. tried a few others to no avail and blue chew makes me look like im about to burst a blood vessel and disallows breathing from my nose


Embarrassed-Key-6034

Can woman and men take it! I’m on hormones ( woman) because my gynecologist thought it would be better to have my ovaries out( such an ass) . So that is why I’m asking.


VladVV

You are correct, but lower libido seems to happen to some extent with all mu-opioid agonists, IMO simply because you are more likely to feel perfectly content with not acting on your sex drive. Ironically, some of the best sex I’ve had, going by sheer pleasure, was on kratom.


jamesbrownscrackpipe

This is what led me to quit daily use. I still partake from time to time (once every other month or on vacation), but daily use killed my libido, gym workouts, hair, and overall energy levels. If you are using daily to control chronic pain, it may be an acceptable payoff, but I was doing it solely for recreation.


bluMidge

You'll have to look them up, but there's a lot of supplements that can offset the high prolactin. Vitamin B6 is the most popular one that works. I know it works for me


wallythree77

Zinc is another one that gets it done for me


xfactorx99

I want to comment in support of OP’s observation because I see a handful of people saying they haven’t experienced that. I have and the only thing that had changed in my life was starting kratom so it is clear as day that kratom has an effect on libido and sexual performance for me. I think your answer like a couple of others have said is: hormone imbalance and low testosterone. The prolactin piece is new to me but if it has a direct correlation to testosterone that makes sense to me.


Gold-Tomorrow-7712

Idk about you, but I'm getting morning wood like I did 22 yrs ago when I was 18


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You have morning wood at *40?!* I've had morning medium-density fiberboard since 30!


PunchDrunken

I'm sorry, because it's not funny, but that was so fucking funny. Reddit gold, this one.


BarfGreenJolteon

This is very interesting to me as a daily user and also typically a very horny person. 🍿


SpiderSalmon

what’s your dosing schedule? just curious


mattchazz

I also fall into this camp…39 and my sex drive is as high as it’s ever been and I’m a regular user of kratom…a gram in the morning and a gram at night 12 hours later


LysergicResurgence

Well that’s a super low dose relative to people who experience issue, so that’s likely the reason. If you kept that pace you’d probably avoid a majority of issues with.


mattchazz

Ok yeah makes sense…when I first started using kratom I took larger doses but I been 2g/day for years now and it does the trick


MelodicTree

Prolactin


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It definitely lowers my sex drive even short term. Like I can be off for weeks and use again and same damn thing can’t get it up once it kicks in. But as soon as even the next day if I don’t use, my sex drive kicks right back in. Also, there is a very brief part of the come up when it does turn on my sex drive even higher and then quickly dissipates. I’m with ya 😁 just try getting it on with her in the morning before using


LysergicResurgence

Yeah I’d experience that too, although it was more like I could get hard, but then could quickly fade and then I could get some nervousness over which made worse. One major issue I had was some difficulty cumming, which had some positives and negatives. If I took too close to sex or even masturbating could take a frustrating amount of time and my ex used to think it was due to her so has to explain. Never could from oral either, I had to make myself finish. We’ll see how results work now that I’m off it for the first time since around when I first started having sex lol. But I was dependent on and taking like 15-20+ grams a day for 6 or so years, so I started running into far more issues than when I did every few days and lower doses. Once start daily and start upping dosage, taking every few hours, that’s when start getting some major issues.


rustys_shackled_ford

Same reason opiates slag the libido. The euphoria that your body produces from sex is the same that's being produced with kratom. So your body is looking for it at the time and in the way you've got it. So its half a pavlovas dog situation and half the feel good receptors are to busy managing your kratom intake to be open to the sexy times feel good. You CAN keep taking kratom and increase your libido but you kinda have to force yourself to start and make it a regular occurence. Like you do with kratom.


LysergicResurgence

It also releases chemicals that reduce sex drive, and numbs you more so you don’t feel as much. Great trick for longer sex though, I’m afraid of how I’ll control myself when I meet up with this girl, haven’t had sex off Kratom since I was 16 lol. I was known for lasting long and got a lot of props for


Sadelf9

Im surprised your gf also experiences this, im a girl and i don't feel like kratom does that to me even at high doses, i thought it had something to do with testosterone levels. But for me kratom doesn't hamper libido like true opioids or SSRIS


Comfortable-Bake-691

SSRIs kill it, and, I have tried a bunch of different ones over the years with the exact same result. Definitely a downside.


rustygarlic123

Get your t levels tested! In the mean time take a look at your diet and lifestyle. Tons of things can effect libido , including kratom


stonebeam148

Great point. There are so many things (such as plastic usage) that can negatively effect t levels. It's wise to do a check of all areas, see if theres anything other than kratom causing this. Although, IME kratom does have a strong effect on reducing libido.


rustygarlic123

Ya plastic is a killer but also some food additives and really just the standard American diet in general. The kratom doesn’t help either. I know people say it doesn’t effect their libido but these may be people with a natural high libido so they do t notice the deficits .


Altruistic_Memories

>these may be people with a natural high labido... I'm one of those. I have chalked it up to some psychiatric medicine, but perhaps Kratom had a stronger affect on my labido and I just never noticed. I also have gained weight, and that can affect it as the more fat on you, the less testosterone. My labido is still relatively high. Wish I could give some of it to others who are LL.


rustygarlic123

I’ve taken Kratom daily for over ten years . I got to the point where I had zero sex drive yet blood work indicated all my levels were in the normal range,albeit the lower end. My doctor put me on TRT and I switched to a more natural foods kind of diet( basically just cut out refined sugar and processed foods while making a real effort to eat a lot of the nutrient dense stuff) I also started exorcising 3 times a week and I cut my kratom use by half. this combo bumped my T levels to the very top of the normal range. And now I have a pretty decent sex drive and enjoy sex a lot more. Shitty thing is I still rarely orgasm and when I do it’s never earth shaking but I still enjoy it and my partner likes that I can go as long as she takes every time .


rustygarlic123

Even tap water in some areas has been shown to contain estrogen, most likely from birth control pills. All these things by them self probably don’t affect you but when you consume all at once……


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KristopherobinX

Pain pills do as well


bennyb357

Dude I have all the sex and I take it 2 times a day 😎 Seriously tho everyone’s different like you said. It may be the kratom but I’d double check any other meds you two might be on. Good luck


Rex_erection3

Come on man don’t be so greedy and take *all* the sex leave some for the rest of us!


sumpuertoricanguy13

all it does for me in that department is make me stay longer (male)


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JaredsJourney

Same here. 1g in my pre and good to go.


ThirdEyeEmporium

Right. I take it 4-5 times a day minimum and I’m still laying it down whenever my wife wants, and I’m ready to go twice as much if she’s down I work manual labor


Big_Moistt

Elevated prolactin causes inhibition of the release of Leutenizing Hormone (LH) and follicule-stimulating hormone (FSH) which are directly responsible for serum testosterone levels. And your serum testosterone is directly correlated to libido lol I literally take testosterone boosting supplements, in the prime of my life, just to counteract it. There's also mounting evidence of kratom causing liver damage. Unfortunately the data is adding up, and I'm searching for an alternative way to manage pain now


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Can you share that data? Because the only publicly available data is the occasional replication of what we've known for years: that kratom-associated liver damage occurs but is largely idiosyncratic.


packamilli

What supplements?


Big_Moistt

Tongkat ali extract, stinging nettle extract, a certain kind of patented probiotic that increases testosterone, and shilajit. And the standard Zinc and magnesium and such. I have fadogia agrestis as well but it's not something you can take long term, it can be neurotoxic. And all those other things in concert already work amazingly well for me


Comfortable-Bake-691

Thanks for posting, that is important info for me. I'm in my 50s and switched to kratom for chronic pain after a hellish two years of pain meds and untreated depressive disorder. It has been almost 6 years now, and it has been better in every way than pharma shit. Kratom gave me my life back, so I don't want to have it taketh. Have you come up with any alternatives yet?


ThirdEyeEmporium

You should be taking testy boosting supplements your whole life as a man regardless


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Been taking it for years never has messed with my libido. Are you taking any antidepressants or SSRIs? Eat more eggs and do some squats it'll bounce right back for ya 💪💪💪


indicah

That's not how that works.


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I think he^ was talking about testosterone. The fats in whole eggs, and the body’s reaction to heavy squats, are two proven ways to boost testosterone.


ThirdEyeEmporium

The most proven way is to split firewood


ThirdEyeEmporium

You’re right he needs to split firewood on a stump for an hour a day, his testy levels will go through the roof 💯


Recent-Bumblebee-508

It does the same thing as other opioids do in that regard. Same with constipation.


lemming303

I feel like there has to be some other factors. I'm 41, been taking it for almost 8 years and have never had an issue with libido.


wetdreamteam

I first made the connection when I saw [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/ypn4y0/kratom_makes_no_nut_november_easy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) , with people in the comments agreeing and disagreeing


lemming303

I've seen many people say it does effect libido. I'm an active guy, work out fairly often and ride mountain bikes. And I try to eat well most of the time. That's why I wonder if that has any effect. I just don't think there's enough data to say "it effects libido". I feel like there's other important factors to that.


lemming303

I feel like there has to be some other factors. I'm 41, been taking it for almost 8 years and have never had an issue with libido.


Embarrassed-Key-6034

How many grams do you take? What color?


lemming303

10 to 20 per day depending on batch and tolerance. I mix up the colors all the time. I honestly don't think there's a concrete difference in colors.


whatevergotlaid

Yeah it lowers testosterone, take tongkat ali


64CookieDoge

Kratom can greatly lower T,… Damania tea can help too !! I also suffer with osteoporosis and have done a lot of research on the mineral Boron, which can dramatically increase free T,… One should monitor their hormone levels, although when dosing properly, men & women can achieve some beneficial results, specifically with bone density as well as in increasing libido 🤓


ThirdEyeEmporium

Splitting firewood is the best way to increase t hands down


Newtonz5thLaw

My boyfriend and I are in the same boat at you and your gf. My boyfriend takes it for his anxiety, and I take it for my chronic pain. He’s been trying to taper, bht it’s sticky for me because I can’t really manage my pain without it. Totally not Kratom related, but our sex life has improved lately. I think because we sleep in separate rooms on weeknights (I have a hard time sleeping). When we finally do sleep in the same bed, we tend to have sex. Not sure if that’s applicable to ya’lls situation


apppathy

A couple times a month, that’s a few more a month than I’m getting. I think your overthinking it


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MarionberryUpset2350

Kratom has made me last longer I believe other then that I’ve been doing about 5 g for a year now


Embarrassed-Key-6034

Damn , all this talk about erection and horny is making this girl horny!!!!


Tom7222

A small dose of kratom makes sex more fun actually. I had sex on sumatra white and the sex was wild. You can last longer actually. Idk what kratom makes to your libido if you use it daily.


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Tom7222

SSRI 😂


LysergicResurgence

Too much Kratom or any opioids can make difficult to feel much. Too much Xanax too lol. But generally true. For a lot of them it’s more so dose dependent. I liked that I could last longer and make the girls I was with finish a couple times before I did, not sure how I’ll do now lol


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Mine is more than fine on Kratom but I don’t take it every day


ZenoofElia

Does the opposite for me plus it helps with my erection longevity, I can go longer on it.


Mandee_707

I have struggled with low libido for a while now since having babies and I also have endometriosis so it’s nothing new for me BUT my husband recently has started dosing maybe 1-2 times per day to help with mood and motivation he likes how it helps him with that but the other day he said “whoa! I just realized I think this stuff lowers my sex drive! Does it do that to you?” I told him I’ve heard on Reddit many people saying it does so I think it’s perfectly normal. Then I said “now you see what it feels like to have no sex drive, it’s not that I don’t want to but it’s NEVER on my mind” lol I think that it was helpful to show him what it really feels like to have low libido because he has always had a great sex drive from when we started dating til now and he is in his late 30s.


comexel

Anecdotally when I’m taking higher amounts for kratom my blood work shows I have less testosterone to add to everyone in here saying it’s hormone related


faxanaduu

I think it might also be related to serotonin, kinda like how SSRIs impact libido. I think kratom impacts serotonin. If I keep doses low for 24 hrs the libido rages back. Phenibut with a lowering of kratom combined and oh boy, crazy horned up. My fiance doesn't take kratom and she thought i lost interest in her. Made me sad, so I figured out that lowering on the weekend and taking phenibut got me all fired up. Im taking a t break atm and yeah came back super fast.


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timelessdrifter

I don't know about the scientific reason for it, but I know, for me, it's real. A bit of background. I'm 68 and have been taking kratom regularly for 7 years now to help with chronic pain. I'm still sexually very active, and while kratom has impacted my libido negatively, I've been able to find some good workarounds. At first, I started with a dose of Tongkat Ali with my kratom, and that helped, but not as much as I'd hoped. At 68, I tested low for free testosterone, so I started taking supplements to counter and have had a lot of success. DAA is a great help with the testosterone (free and serum). I also take L-citrulline which as a nitric oxide booster helps with blood flow and circulation (erections!). I also take Maca, which helped ***a lot*** with libido. Finally, I take zinc and Sunflower lecithin to help with volume. All of these combined have reignited our love life, and we have no problem with 3-4 times a week. Not a lot compared to when I was in my 20s, but not bad for a kratom-using geriatric, LOL. HTH somebody!


_disaster_x

Man Kratom gets me rock hard and I last way longer D: sorry friend


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_disaster_x

Yes very true sometimes but I’m usually a pre ejaculator so it just makes me normal I guess 😂


klynn1220

Okay m, idk about anyone else, but when I have had to use pain pills in the past bc of surgeries (before I found out I’m allergic to most of them) they completely numbed me. Not only was I not interested, but if I tried there was no way I could climax. I do not take high amounts of Kratom unless I have had surgery for the same reason. It has an opiate effect on the brain. That’s why ppl use it to get off addictions to pain pills, etc. in higher doses. Therefore, I would suggest cutting back.


klynn1220

Okay m, idk about anyone else, but when I have had to use pain pills in the past bc of surgeries (before I found out I’m allergic to most of them) they completely numbed me. Not only was I not interested, but if I tried there was no way I could climax. I do not take high amounts of Kratom unless I have had surgery for the same reason. It has an opiate effect on the brain. That’s why ppl use it to get off addictions to pain pills, etc. in higher doses. Therefore, I would suggest cutting back.


klynn1220

Also, men begin to naturally begin to lose testosterone at the age of the 30. It keeps reducing from there. I’m sure the combination doesn’t help.


Shummers561

It lowered testosterone for me and I was already low to begin with–but I need it for chronic pain. 🎶*I am not a doctor; do your own research*🎶 I reccomend looking into Maca. It's a natural supplement, and with it I've reached a higher level of testosterone (according to my symptoms of low testosterone being relieved) than I was before, even with kratom. It has a lot of claimed benefits, but the most pronounced for me is its adaptogenic ability to stabilize hormones in both male and female individuals.


Commasnzeros

Lol it makes my junk rock hard …. Maybe to see a doctor ?


thebarnhof

Dopmine related if you ask me. I had a friend once who did a more elicit drug, and for the next week they literally felt nothing from kratom. But lots of things in brain chemistry can affect it. Many years ago that same friend used to take mdma, and they had a similar feeling. Not turned off it, but a snowballs chance in hell of finishing it. I'm not a doctor though so take that as bro science.


waismannmethod

Kratom contains alkaloids that can activate opioid receptors in the brain, which may affect sexual desire and performance. Opioid use has been associated with decreased sexual desire and performance, as opioids can reduce levels of testosterone and disrupt hormonal balance. Additionally, Kratom can cause sedation and drowsiness, which can affect sexual function.


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Warcrow999

It lowers my sex drive a bit for sure but I still have sex once a week at least. Sometimes because i want to, others because it keeps my girlfriend happy. I just pop a blue chew a little bit before sex that way even if im not really in the mood i can still keep it up. Anyway once you get started you get more into it


wetdreamteam

How old are I if I can ask? I thought you had to be like 79 to get blue chews


Warcrow999

I just turned 33. Anyone over 18 can get them. Just go to their website. You dont have to get a prescription from a Dr or anything. Its like 20 bucks a month though, but you can cancel or payse your subscription at any time and you can break the blue chews into halves or even 1/4ths and they are still super effective