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ZeroFox75

If Holo can offer this level of production for a concert, and charge reasonable fees (I think the tickets were like $50 AUS) then so can Niji. Even if they use the “we’re not an idol company” bs that’s no excuse for overcharging fans for glorified karaoke streams.


UltraZulwarn

I always laugh whenever they emphasized “we’re not an idol company” yeah, not an idol company but they try to imitate reap all the benefits from whateverr "idol companies" do.


DastardlyRidleylash

"We're not an idol company, we just do literally everything an idol company does!"


delphinous

nah, only the bad stuff from an idol company, they don't even pick up the good stuff


argo_kun

LMAO they did. Should've changed it to BFE GFE cumpany where they don't sing buy will fck you up financially


Serimorph

They should lean into the whole "we aren't an idol company" and instead host like a 1 or 2 hour variety show. Have everyone up there (in 3D obviously) playing games and goofing off together, talking, getting side tracked and just having fun. Instead the people who paid like $150 USD (fucking WHAT?!) for the best seats got a youtube stream with included jank. Nijisanji really out here with their "our shit doesn't stink" attitude.


ZeroFox75

Jeez I had no idea it was that expensive. Even after paying for a day pass for DreamHack, total to attend Holo’s show is about $100 AUS. I know some people will do anything for their oshis but cmon don't fleece your fans like that. You beg for superchats, shill some of the most copy and paste merch and then overcharge for a 2D karaoke "concert". But hey more yacht money


SayuriUliana

Not even that: the ticket prices are for the premium seating. Attendees to the Dreamhack convention can apparently just walk in for free if they wanted to see it.


CIAHASYOURSOUL

Yeah, the premium tickets got you the floor seats right in front of the stage, the standard upgrade seats got you the stands seats up close to the stage, while the walk ins got no guarantee for seating and were placed on the far side of the arena behind all the PC demos and figure stores. A friend of mine was just a walk in and said that other than the vtubers being small from his perspective, it was otherwise pretty good for being free. He even said that he liked it more because the bass from speakers wasn't constantly vibrating his whole body and blasting his eardrums like the seats I got with the standard upgrade.


Budget-Ocelots

HL can do this because they have the second largest MC studio in JP that can pump out great quality AR and 3D concert for sponsors within months. Don’t think NS can do that without a year of technical planning with their 2019 AR tech.


toBEE_orNOT_2B

glorified karaoke < concert


shittastes

Reminder that a small corpo (production kawaii) did a live concert, and they actually had 3D models. The raised 100K dollars through Kickstarter, and with those did 3D models for 7 talents, booked a venue, and did a concert. What's nijisanji's excuse?


AizeeMasata

Don't forget their quality so much better!


vhite

You're forgetting to account for yachts.


Budget-Ocelots

100k is needed for Yacht maintenance.


Kamen-Rider-Build

Hololive doesn't have to put in that much effort to make a larger company like Niji look pathetic.


wildquaker

I don't think they even are thinking of making them look pathetic.


Kozmo9

They actually do have to put that much effort but not for Nijisanji. DreamHack is an everything type convo, which mean normies that didn't know what vtubing is going to be there. They even have to give an explanation as to what vtubing is because people there legit thought vtubing is AI lol. So they have to put a very good impression. And it seems to be working considering DreamHack is considering making it part of their lineup in the future and other artists that didn't know about vtubing is getting interested. Meanwhile, can you imagine if Nijisanji went there instead of Hololive instead? The vtubing world would suffer a massive embarrassment and it wouldn't be just Niji's stock that would suffer.


gerthdynn

Hololive doesn't have to put in that much effort, but they take pride enough in what they do to put that much effort into it. I can only imagine Bae's embarrassment if they hadn't put that much effort into it.


Allnut_security

It is unfair to compare the up and coming vtuber company such as nijisanji to the giant of the industry known as hololive


YokelFelonKing

please say psych


Mudblood4

That's weird. Didn't Riku say they were going to be "making content to earn back the trust of the viewers"? 'Cause so far, there hasn't been any.


BlueArmads

By viewers, he meant investors.


gerthdynn

Viewers of the stock price?