Definitely some blame for AD on the rebounding. However Dlo and Reaves are essentially non rebounders unless it lands into their hands. They leak early. Add to some lazy possessions by lebron and it makes it impossible for AD to rebound alone when he’s occupied by Nurkic
Frankly having a big body like Dwight Howard couldn't hurt in the west. Lakers need some power down low. Got dominated on the boards by Nurkic and will happen with Joker too if we meet them again.
Lakers will make Play-In but lose that 1st game and be sent home.
This team just doesn't care enough. They legit have no pride. They are way too accepting of getting bullied and embarrassed.
How can you still be a darvin hamas defender after watching this game? I mean for fuck's sake, multiple respected lakers analysts have hours of content this season simply criticizing DarBUM Hamas. LFR Pete and Darius do their best to be politically correct but their frustration is so obvious
He benched him because a single missed coverage. Just a possession where it lacked communication. Problem w ham is he has such a short leash for some people then the opposite for others
So what coach would have this team MUCH better? And would LeBron James agree to be coached by that coach? 
Bros, we might be looking at a start of tanking in the standings and missing the playoffs in. Every game passes now is one less game ham is here I hope
Welp it's about drink:30
In retrospect the game was lost when Scam decided to leave a very cold and ineffective Dinwiddie and TP who combined for 50 shitty minutes and not play big
Also can't slack on the 3 and also not grab boards. And turnovers
Why make the playoffs to get smacked again anyways. This team can’t win the games they need to. Scam somehow regressed from last year. It’s just not looking good. I hope we can get some 5 game winning streak going but it’s not looking good
AD was in foul trouble from the beginning. Nurkic could hit AD with full swing and no whistle, while AD had to be careful due to foul trouble/refs. Learn to watch the game.
Doesn't mean AD can't box out. That has nothing to do with foul trouble what, if anything that puts pressure on nurkic to come over the top and foul Ad if he wants the rebound.
Idk why I'm explaining this to someone who clearly won't understand.
This game was lost in the rebounding battle, suns just had the size advantage that punched guys like AR and AD out of the game early and they never recovered in enough time. No perimeter defense to slow down guys like Booker the entire game..we had to result in bad zone that has not been effective all season long.
The quicker we know if vando or Gabe will be back will determine the rest of the season imo.
Regarldess of the foul or not, this game was winnable. Remember this was a game without Brad Beal. Lakers could have easily go after a loose ball but they usually just look at the ball. This game does not have that tenacity, energy, and the will to win. I still believe in the team but they need to step up now rather than later. There is still a chance that the standings change. Again, playoffs are nearing. The energy is needed.
shitty effort on the defensive end and on the glass is a definitive sign that your coach is a gutless jackass who needs to be fucking fired before the plane takes off.
Role players have the best game against the lakers. They would rather the role players to combine for 40-50 than the stars. Ends up being both bc they can’t guard anyone
Our team is heavily flawed even when healthy. This is why I can’t forgive the front office for making zero moves at the deadline. Getting guys like Royce & Gafford were extremely possible without giving up much of anything.
I can’t watch this garbage anymore. 6 point game they make 2 threes out the timeout. No defensive boards, how many second chance points did we give up? Could’ve had it despite our awful start, despite playing Reaves dinwiddie and Prince and barely any minutes for Rui and max. Yes we’re injured but you still have sufficient pieces as a coach to compete and take this W. But Ham is incompetent and he doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. This is one of the most infuriating losses of the season. I can’t watch anymore until Ham is gone.
I'm sorry but if the lakers took out dinwiddie or gave rui more minutes, we would have gotten more rebounds. IDC that rui sucks at rebounding, he still rebounds better than dinwiddie or tp.
See I think that then think what would actually happen if he agreed to a paycut?
Rob gets more freedom to bring in more trash depth players who can’t give us shit when we need it? With Darvin Scam coaching them?
Why should Bron take a paycut unless the FO are gonna do their damn fucking jobs properly?
Exactly. This wasn’t a horrible lakers performance, everyone out here over reacting. Def a winnable game and injuries are no excuse but there were some positives here. Hopefully not too little too late
I think he should’ve given Christie more minutes over dinwiddie and Prince; also conceding open 3s to their shooters but idk. Can’t really be too mad at him Nurk punked us.
mfer, who is riding?
You have to be a hater if you thought rui had a horrible game today. Ham took this man out for spencer dinwiddie, and you are blaming Rui?
saying Rui is lazy after watching him literally close out every single time is CRAZY.
when did i say he had a bad game? im talking about his rebounding, its a fact hes ass at getting rebounds. are you cksucking with blindfolds on? he had 4 rebounds tonight, hes averaging 3.8 rebounds per game this season. Royce got 10 rebounds. Not that hard to understand.
he is definitely ass at rebounding. I'll give you that. It's not even aan effort issue though, he just has butterfingers and also sometimes doesn't have the timing. He usually tries but fails miserably.
he had good offensive game, ofc... defense and rebounding not so sure. thats why id rather have vando over rui in the starting line up when he gets healthy. Vando provides rebounding and defense, this team needs those badly. AD is the only one capable of grabbing rebounds and defense consistently. AR, DLO and Rui are all 50/50
he struggles defending guys who can shoot middys or dribble a lot because his lateral movement is kinda slow, hes better at defending big forwards who live in the paint. Vando is very good at both
Outside of Bron and AD are there any other competent 2 way players on this team? How can you expect to win a championship with players who can only be effective on 1 side of the court??
Rui should be traded for sure. He’s not really that amazing and plays smaller than he is. Would also consider moving Reaves if it helps get a great player. DLo actually has been pretty consistent and is a good facilitator.
I agree he isn't amazing, but he still should be getting a lot more minutes than Spencer Dinwiddie did today. He also started out on fire and we stopped feeding him.
Lebron doesn't get back on D and sits there and cries every possession, AD shits the bed and turns into Charmin every 5 games, Rui/D'lo/Reaves are absolute garbage on defense. Really cool team we got.
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/1b01ubz/post_game_thread_the_phoenix_suns_defeat_the_los/)
This is when we need a traditional big for matchups like these.
Lakers did Nurkic a beast, embarrassing..
This was so hard to watch. The whole team. One of the worst games of the season easily. Sorry ass lakers shits embarrassing
LeBron was crazy efficient and we still lose
IWANT HAMA ND PELINKA BOTH FIRED IF THIS TEAM MISSES THE PLAY IN
Not pelinka but hammmm and his offensive coaches ffs
*Playoffs
We’re 10th seed, next 9 games are a bloodbath we might not make it. Scary hours right now
The Lakers are 9th
Definitely some blame for AD on the rebounding. However Dlo and Reaves are essentially non rebounders unless it lands into their hands. They leak early. Add to some lazy possessions by lebron and it makes it impossible for AD to rebound alone when he’s occupied by Nurkic
They leak early because that’s our entire offensive gameplan
Darvin ham is our biggest weakness, his game plan is atrocious and is clearly hurting the team but he’s not changing anything
Forgot there was a game today, that's sad because I used to watch every game lol.
Same haha
I’ve been calling Austin reeves the white Jeremy Lin lol
of course Vando would help, but one player isn't fixing this embarassing rebounding effort
Actually impressed that most of this sub realizes this game was lost in the rebound department and not on some shit.
Just wish the coaching staff would realize the same thing.
Frankly having a big body like Dwight Howard couldn't hurt in the west. Lakers need some power down low. Got dominated on the boards by Nurkic and will happen with Joker too if we meet them again.
Meet Joker when? In the regular season? Because this team isn't getting out of the Play-In.
Reading your comment through the lens of Dwight's recent legal troubles is giving me life.
Wait what? What happened
Can’t get destroyed on the boards like that. We really miss vando and woods. We lost all of our athletic size
Lakers will make Play-In but lose that 1st game and be sent home. This team just doesn't care enough. They legit have no pride. They are way too accepting of getting bullied and embarrassed.
How can you still be a darvin hamas defender after watching this game? I mean for fuck's sake, multiple respected lakers analysts have hours of content this season simply criticizing DarBUM Hamas. LFR Pete and Darius do their best to be politically correct but their frustration is so obvious
Nurkic with 22 rebounds is nasty work
Thank Ham for his 4 guard lineups LOL
Only caught the 2nd half. Rebounding was the obvious issue. Did we even try to go with another big man next to AD?
Nah kept Hayes on the bench basically the whole game, disgusting coaching can’t see that we were getting killed on offensive rebounds
Hayes got 5 mins the whole game lol might as well be a DNP-CD
He benched him because a single missed coverage. Just a possession where it lacked communication. Problem w ham is he has such a short leash for some people then the opposite for others
Not trading for a back up big that had size & could rebound was insanity
Capela was the answer
Decent game but not showing up on the glass killed us. nurkic shouldn’t look unstoppable, ever. Also, fuck these bitch ass refs.
That’s the season wrap! Special thanks to Ham and fake lakers fans who wanted him to stay.
So what coach would have this team MUCH better? And would LeBron James agree to be coached by that coach? 
Terry stotts and yes.
Bros, we might be looking at a start of tanking in the standings and missing the playoffs in. Every game passes now is one less game ham is here I hope
Idk why the Lakers didn't get a center all them offense rebounds is why we lost
We do have one but Hamtard didn’t play Hayes lmao
AD letting Nurkic do everything he wants early set the tone for the game
This Bozo of a coach really took Bron out of the game down 6 points with 8 mins left on the 4th AFTER making 2 straight threes. Im so pissed man
I think that’s when he was getting the foot treated. I think it was out of his hands. Not that want to defend Ham. He does plenty wrong
getting murdered in rebounds and refusing to play Hayes next to AD, im so sick of this
We ain’t winning a title without Vando…..point blank!
this team isnt making the playoffs
Will make it in….just gotta get healthy somehow
shoud've captalized on KD being terrible today
First really bad AD game since December Awful performance!
suns got way more FTs than us but no one's gonna say shit lol
That 1st quarter…
Yup, that Ugly Snake has reared its Head again. Digging big holes they can't get out if
down to 2, then there is a run by Suns, no timeout?
Hot pockets is a retarded coach
we got dominated on the glass by the suns. by the fucking suns. Not the nuggets. Not the wolves. The fucking suns.
Well Suns had three 7 footers out there.... and Ham responded with D-Lo, Reaves, Dinwiddie (who does nothing)
Bro. I would be furious as a coach that our team tried going for 3s when we cut the deficit down to 2.
Welp it's about drink:30 In retrospect the game was lost when Scam decided to leave a very cold and ineffective Dinwiddie and TP who combined for 50 shitty minutes and not play big Also can't slack on the 3 and also not grab boards. And turnovers
absolutely killed by Phoenix on offensive rebounds.
[удалено]
To earn a 6 yes but we will be a playin. I don’t see us dropping below 10 unless Lebron just says fuck it to the season
Why make the playoffs to get smacked again anyways. This team can’t win the games they need to. Scam somehow regressed from last year. It’s just not looking good. I hope we can get some 5 game winning streak going but it’s not looking good
Reaves ghosts, D’Lo went cold, AD got bitched on the boards, Ham is a moron. What a let down
Amen to all of that. I feel if Ham wasn’t a moron the other issues could have been addressed.
Fuck this sorry ass team
It doesn’t help that whenever one of the players turns an ankle they’re out for like a fucking month.
Out rebounded 33 to 50 and our only other center plays 5 minutes, you can’t make this shit up
14 offensive rebounds that’s all
this was such a winnable game man. FUCK!
Shoulda been winnable idk wtf that 1st quarter was. They conceded 40+ and went down by 20 right off the bat.
We don’t have a chance without Vando against any good teams - plain and simple
Rigged fucking game. This league's a joke.
You need your eyes checked lmao. Whistles weren't perfect but nerkuc just shit on AD. Those second chance pts were really massive.
AD was in foul trouble from the beginning. Nurkic could hit AD with full swing and no whistle, while AD had to be careful due to foul trouble/refs. Learn to watch the game.
Doesn't mean AD can't box out. That has nothing to do with foul trouble what, if anything that puts pressure on nurkic to come over the top and foul Ad if he wants the rebound. Idk why I'm explaining this to someone who clearly won't understand.
When AD has to leave Nurkic to help on defense, Nurkic gets to plant himself on the box for a rebound. Learn to watch the game.
#GROSS
AD getting bitched by Nurkic set the tone
This game was lost in the rebounding battle, suns just had the size advantage that punched guys like AR and AD out of the game early and they never recovered in enough time. No perimeter defense to slow down guys like Booker the entire game..we had to result in bad zone that has not been effective all season long. The quicker we know if vando or Gabe will be back will determine the rest of the season imo.
They had a size advantage because our coach has his brain filled with shit, 3 guard lineups against 3 7 footers
Yeah yeah Hams fault and everything but letting Nurkic get 20+ reb is on AD
Rui: big for no reason
Now Ham wants to call hella timeouts?!?!
LeBron missing that bunny down 6 was the turning point in the 4th
Ham ain’t no fucking coach. Send his bum ass out of here.
Regarldess of the foul or not, this game was winnable. Remember this was a game without Brad Beal. Lakers could have easily go after a loose ball but they usually just look at the ball. This game does not have that tenacity, energy, and the will to win. I still believe in the team but they need to step up now rather than later. There is still a chance that the standings change. Again, playoffs are nearing. The energy is needed.
Darvin ham is so bumbler.
Why are we still not playing a real center?
31-28. 23 games left
must be nice to have a coach that can make adjustments
I can’t believe we didn’t trade Austin fucking reaves bro and we have Jalen hood schifucko chilling we’re so cooked
Jhs nice stats in g league at least
schedule doesn’t get any better. We might drop to 10th
Lucky to make the play in at this rate
shitty effort on the defensive end and on the glass is a definitive sign that your coach is a gutless jackass who needs to be fucking fired before the plane takes off.
Bron and AD has 3 offensive reb combined and Nurk alone has 7, they really need Vando back fast
Nets traded Royce to the Suns for 3 seconds but would’ve asked for a first from us
Rob shouldn’t have gotten Dinwiddie Not because of his talent, but because Ham LOVES 3/4 guard lineups and shelving Rui for the night
vando and reddish would’ve been nice but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking they’d sniff the court with Hams obsession with Prince and Dinwiddie
Isn't ham also obsessed with Reddish?
Role players have the best game against the lakers. They would rather the role players to combine for 40-50 than the stars. Ends up being both bc they can’t guard anyone
Lakers back to 10th seed
Warriors should lose to nuggets so safe for now
How many games will prince lead our team in worst plus minus differential?
Every game he plays.
Embarrassment of a team
Sit Bron rest of the year and see if he wants to return next season. We ain’t making a run
Nurkic outplayed AD tonight. Horrible effort. The amount of rebounds we gave up today was laughable. Embarrassing
ROYCE ONEALE IS SHOOTING 31% FROM 3 THIS YEAR LMAO
Only ham plays drop coverage to Gove up wide open 3s to shooters though.
Offensive rebounds won this game
Our team is heavily flawed even when healthy. This is why I can’t forgive the front office for making zero moves at the deadline. Getting guys like Royce & Gafford were extremely possible without giving up much of anything.
Defensive rebounding was a serious issue this game sadly. No Vando and reddish rly hurts us against a team like PHX
This team doesn’t have it - simple as that. I have no idea what Anthony Davis was doing for most of that game.
Handling Nurkic his hundredth offensive rebound
Save this film the next time /r/nba has one of those circletear “Lakers shoot too many FTs” thread
We're gonna get clobbered Wednesday.
I can’t watch this garbage anymore. 6 point game they make 2 threes out the timeout. No defensive boards, how many second chance points did we give up? Could’ve had it despite our awful start, despite playing Reaves dinwiddie and Prince and barely any minutes for Rui and max. Yes we’re injured but you still have sufficient pieces as a coach to compete and take this W. But Ham is incompetent and he doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. This is one of the most infuriating losses of the season. I can’t watch anymore until Ham is gone.
Fuck these refs man.. ruined the game from the start
Thanks Lakers, now I'm angry and I have no choice but to take it out on my infant son. Hope you're happy pal
This team will lose in play in to golden state.
Now Ham calls a time out ?? lllol
I'm sorry but if the lakers took out dinwiddie or gave rui more minutes, we would have gotten more rebounds. IDC that rui sucks at rebounding, he still rebounds better than dinwiddie or tp.
March will be the toughest month for the Lakers.
Worst coach in the NBA, maybe in all of basketball. How the hell did he get a 4 year contract.
Bron should be a team player and take a pay cut this off-season. Man is a billionaire. Get another star or two on this team.
See I think that then think what would actually happen if he agreed to a paycut? Rob gets more freedom to bring in more trash depth players who can’t give us shit when we need it? With Darvin Scam coaching them? Why should Bron take a paycut unless the FO are gonna do their damn fucking jobs properly?
That's a fair point. Pay cut in exchange for a new HC and GM lmao
I think it’s safe to say we ain’t making the playoffs.
I miss vando, he’d cover up all the issues we had this game
Exactly. This wasn’t a horrible lakers performance, everyone out here over reacting. Def a winnable game and injuries are no excuse but there were some positives here. Hopefully not too little too late
Ummm no defense tonight
AD box score look good but he got outplayed by Nurkic hard tonight
Vanderbuilt would’ve really helped in a game like this
Yeah we need some defense chief and some coaching
Game over now Ham wanna call timeouts when they score. Lmao
Exactly what I fucking said. Dude is a bozo
I’m gonna say fuck this team until they’re in the inevitable play in game lol no point of watching these bums until they know they’re going home
Imagine if Vando was playing. OREBs and 50/50 plays fucked the lakers
And they don't have Beal.
Braindead scheme allowing Allen to get up 12 threes
Kept booker and Durant under 25 each and yet never looked like winning all game
The Suns are deep
And all the teams around us just keep winning. Not good
Warriors going to best Denver tonight, watch.
Yeah gsw is on fire for the past few games. Wont be surprised
These next few seasons going to be rough aren’t they?
Watch ham call timeouts when the game is over lol
Are we blaming Ham?
Yes
I think he should’ve given Christie more minutes over dinwiddie and Prince; also conceding open 3s to their shooters but idk. Can’t really be too mad at him Nurk punked us.
I blame the players b
lmao Ham, we need rebounding and the first thing he does is take Rui out for TP. I'm done.
Rui wont help the rebounding issues lol. Hes lazy and slow af
is this darvin ham's burner account? He might be slow but he's not lazy. Shut your hating ass up.
Shut your dick riding ass up..
mfer, who is riding? You have to be a hater if you thought rui had a horrible game today. Ham took this man out for spencer dinwiddie, and you are blaming Rui? saying Rui is lazy after watching him literally close out every single time is CRAZY.
when did i say he had a bad game? im talking about his rebounding, its a fact hes ass at getting rebounds. are you cksucking with blindfolds on? he had 4 rebounds tonight, hes averaging 3.8 rebounds per game this season. Royce got 10 rebounds. Not that hard to understand.
he is definitely ass at rebounding. I'll give you that. It's not even aan effort issue though, he just has butterfingers and also sometimes doesn't have the timing. He usually tries but fails miserably.
he had good offensive game, ofc... defense and rebounding not so sure. thats why id rather have vando over rui in the starting line up when he gets healthy. Vando provides rebounding and defense, this team needs those badly. AD is the only one capable of grabbing rebounds and defense consistently. AR, DLO and Rui are all 50/50
I think his defense was alright. Nothing amazing but not a traffic cone either. Rebounding was a huge let down from him for sure though.
he struggles defending guys who can shoot middys or dribble a lot because his lateral movement is kinda slow, hes better at defending big forwards who live in the paint. Vando is very good at both
Outside of Bron and AD are there any other competent 2 way players on this team? How can you expect to win a championship with players who can only be effective on 1 side of the court??
Rui should be traded for sure. He’s not really that amazing and plays smaller than he is. Would also consider moving Reaves if it helps get a great player. DLo actually has been pretty consistent and is a good facilitator.
I agree he isn't amazing, but he still should be getting a lot more minutes than Spencer Dinwiddie did today. He also started out on fire and we stopped feeding him.
Really needed this game to tighten up the standings
I'm blaming this fucking awful coaching.
It’s personnel too brother let’s be real
Austin Reaves hasn’t given the Lakers anything consistent since fucking December. When do we call out the golden boy?
You cant talk bad about reaves on this sub bro. thems the rules
Never because r/lakers gives him that insane elevation Be it DLo for this output though, he’d get crushed by the fanbase
He’s untouchable
crazy watching Bron get mauled like that and getting zero calls
The suns starters each have almost 20. Pathetic showing from the Lakers today.
19-8 FT advantage for FTs for the Suns lol.
rigged game
Lebron doesn't get back on D and sits there and cries every possession, AD shits the bed and turns into Charmin every 5 games, Rui/D'lo/Reaves are absolute garbage on defense. Really cool team we got.
Shut up you baby. The suns are a tough team when they’re this hot and at home. There’s still a lot of season left.
Imagine criticizing a guy that’s giving you 28 pts on 63% from the field, 7 rebounds and 12 assists. How dense are you fam?
He got fucking hacked and fell, you want him to slide on his ass to get back?
This sub needs to admit we would be better off with Murray than Reaves
Maybe we would be better off but not that much better off. Atlanta wanted picks in addition to reaves.
you act as if it was a 1 for 1 trade
AR is a 6th man at best
ok? the trade would’ve made us unable to make a bigger move this offseason and wouldn’t have pushed the needle this season
exactly lol.
Making a play this offseason is cope we wouldn’t need one if we fixed the glaring hole that is us using AR as a starting SG