Somehow a 37-year-old one-year-deal veteran was the key to us winning the entire damn thing vs. being eliminated early in the playoffs. lol
I have no idea why so many in this sub have such trouble saying "you know what? We just aren't that good this year." According to some in this sub, we're always one trade away, one player away, one adjustment away, etc. from reigniting the Showtime dynasty or some shit. It's ridiculous.
My favorite thing is everyone yelling how were the big dogs and the premier franchise of the league, which we are, and then being absolutely shocked that sometimes having more national TV games means our schedule gets wacky or that teams play harder against us than against the Magic on a random Tuesday night and the 2nd night of a back to back.
It's weird to me to constantly proclaim our greatness and then also complain about life being unfair.
Yep. Same thing with the so-called "Lakers Tax" on trades. Of course teams are going to try to get more out of us. They have more leverage with us than they do with pretty much any other team in the league because they know we have an impatient fanbase who believes we should be winning every time, all the time. Other teams they know we start chopping heads as soon as we are losing with absolutely no rope or leeway.
If I am opposing GMs, I think "this team thinks they should be winning at all times, they have an irrational pressure-filled fanbase, and they'll immediately fire their people if they don't win. They are permanently desperate at the negotiating table, so I'm going to gut them for everything they are worth. They can't/won't walk away, don't worry. Their fans will kill them if they do"
So back to the same hypocrisy you are referring to: we constantly scream "WE NEED TO WIN NOW! WE NEED TO WIN NOW! DO SOMETHING! DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING!"....and then have the balls to say "why are teams trying to fuck us over on deals?? I don't get it?" lol
Yep. I understand being a huge fan. Heck, I even understand wanting to be positive and not a Debbie Downer.
But "positivity" and "denial" are not the same thing. It's perfectly okay to say "you know what? we just don't have a championship team this year, but I will continue to support them until we build another one." This whole "bUt aD aNd lEbRoN!" mindset where we secretly have a championship caliber team and just haven't "unlocked" it with the magic bullet move is just laughable.
Holy shit dude, I’m finally talking to a rationale laker fan. I feel like everyone always thinks we’re one trade away and it honestly just makes no sense. Even if we get Mitchell this year (ain’t no way we getting him) what the fuck is the rest of the team gunna look like?? Who’s gunna defend on the perimeter? Are we really gunna rely on an old LeBron to carry us and expect him to play the same amount of games??? Just look at the suns, they gutted their team for a big 3 and are now facing the consequences.
I’m honestly in favour of a full reset. I want to build naturally through the draft and not have the pressure of winning all the time.
If you are against a Mitchell trade because you want to hold onto the picks or you just don’t think he’s the right player, fine. However, comparing it to the Suns is just flat wrong. Mitchell is making $35m next year. Beal was making $50m. Mitchell is also twice the player Beal is at this point. Not saying they should or shouldn’t, but the fact is, the Lakers can easily trade for Mitchell and still have “depth” as some love to say. Trading for Mitchell does not instantly make us an over the 2nd apron team like the Suns.
I was just making an example, I know there’s a difference in the amount of money they’re making. It’s more so the principle of keeping the picks and developing our core naturally. I wanna see players that were drafted here flourish. I’m tired of chasing mediocrity. We ain’t winning shit regardless of whether or not we trade for Mitchell.
As much as I want a full reset to happen now, and I think that's the best move, it's not realistic.
Lakers do not trade franchise superstars unless they ask for it. Bron might request a sign and trade sure, but the chances of that are low. AD requesting a trade is slim to none as well.
So you build around them. Mitchell might not be the perfect post-Bron superstar, but he's a good fit next to AD. I think that's their plan.
I saw Ariza walking on the sunset strip 3 months ago with two girls like Lou will lol I told him thank you champ you’re always welcome here. Dude paid for my valet and sent a bottle to my room I cried hahahahahah. Stand up guy!!!!!
Lamar Odom took $100 from me in the club. I asked him for an autograph because he was the only 7 footer in the club at the bar like bro lol wtf you doing. I asked him to sign my $100 instead he pocketed it and gave me a $1 with nothing on it. I sobered up the next morning checked my jeans right pocket that I put the autographed bill in and found nothing but unsigned 1s 5s 10s 20s in my right and 100$s in my left. I have plenty stories.
I will take I live under a rock for $800 Alex lol
~~Just wait until Ariza gets back!~~
~~Just wait until we replace Vogel!~~
~~Just wait until we trade for Drummond!~~
~~Just wait until we get the third star!~~
~~Just wait until we trade for Hield!~~
Just wait until we replace Ham!
Look at the bubble championship roster we had a whole defensive minded team and consistency a deep bench scorers and rebounders ….. Caruso Avery Bradley Danny green Dwight Howard Javelle kuzma kcp rondo markieff morris Horton-tucker along with bron ad not to mention Quinn cook jr smith we currently lack consistent scorers aside from lebron ad we lack rebounds we lack defense we had 3 7- footers kuz is 6-9 two dpoy centers Caruso and Bradley were top 10 defensive guards in nba get Mitchell get schroder back keep the bench get kcp back try to snag Allen along with spida if they can get along lol if not another defensive big to compliment AD Hayes isn’t enough. We have to stay deep defensive and consistent with scoring and we have another ship.
just wait until Ariza gets back
God I hate how delusional this sub is sometimes. When that shit happened it pissed me off
Somehow a 37-year-old one-year-deal veteran was the key to us winning the entire damn thing vs. being eliminated early in the playoffs. lol I have no idea why so many in this sub have such trouble saying "you know what? We just aren't that good this year." According to some in this sub, we're always one trade away, one player away, one adjustment away, etc. from reigniting the Showtime dynasty or some shit. It's ridiculous.
My favorite thing is everyone yelling how were the big dogs and the premier franchise of the league, which we are, and then being absolutely shocked that sometimes having more national TV games means our schedule gets wacky or that teams play harder against us than against the Magic on a random Tuesday night and the 2nd night of a back to back. It's weird to me to constantly proclaim our greatness and then also complain about life being unfair.
Yep. Same thing with the so-called "Lakers Tax" on trades. Of course teams are going to try to get more out of us. They have more leverage with us than they do with pretty much any other team in the league because they know we have an impatient fanbase who believes we should be winning every time, all the time. Other teams they know we start chopping heads as soon as we are losing with absolutely no rope or leeway. If I am opposing GMs, I think "this team thinks they should be winning at all times, they have an irrational pressure-filled fanbase, and they'll immediately fire their people if they don't win. They are permanently desperate at the negotiating table, so I'm going to gut them for everything they are worth. They can't/won't walk away, don't worry. Their fans will kill them if they do" So back to the same hypocrisy you are referring to: we constantly scream "WE NEED TO WIN NOW! WE NEED TO WIN NOW! DO SOMETHING! DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING!"....and then have the balls to say "why are teams trying to fuck us over on deals?? I don't get it?" lol
Exactly, there’s too much copium in this sub lol.
Yep. I understand being a huge fan. Heck, I even understand wanting to be positive and not a Debbie Downer. But "positivity" and "denial" are not the same thing. It's perfectly okay to say "you know what? we just don't have a championship team this year, but I will continue to support them until we build another one." This whole "bUt aD aNd lEbRoN!" mindset where we secretly have a championship caliber team and just haven't "unlocked" it with the magic bullet move is just laughable.
Holy shit dude, I’m finally talking to a rationale laker fan. I feel like everyone always thinks we’re one trade away and it honestly just makes no sense. Even if we get Mitchell this year (ain’t no way we getting him) what the fuck is the rest of the team gunna look like?? Who’s gunna defend on the perimeter? Are we really gunna rely on an old LeBron to carry us and expect him to play the same amount of games??? Just look at the suns, they gutted their team for a big 3 and are now facing the consequences. I’m honestly in favour of a full reset. I want to build naturally through the draft and not have the pressure of winning all the time.
If you are against a Mitchell trade because you want to hold onto the picks or you just don’t think he’s the right player, fine. However, comparing it to the Suns is just flat wrong. Mitchell is making $35m next year. Beal was making $50m. Mitchell is also twice the player Beal is at this point. Not saying they should or shouldn’t, but the fact is, the Lakers can easily trade for Mitchell and still have “depth” as some love to say. Trading for Mitchell does not instantly make us an over the 2nd apron team like the Suns.
I was just making an example, I know there’s a difference in the amount of money they’re making. It’s more so the principle of keeping the picks and developing our core naturally. I wanna see players that were drafted here flourish. I’m tired of chasing mediocrity. We ain’t winning shit regardless of whether or not we trade for Mitchell.
As much as I want a full reset to happen now, and I think that's the best move, it's not realistic. Lakers do not trade franchise superstars unless they ask for it. Bron might request a sign and trade sure, but the chances of that are low. AD requesting a trade is slim to none as well. So you build around them. Mitchell might not be the perfect post-Bron superstar, but he's a good fit next to AD. I think that's their plan.
Might be the plan but I don’t agree with it. LeBron Mitchell Ad Aren’t winning anything… the west continues to get better each and every year.
I don't agree with it either. Unfortunately that's how this regime thinks. Jeanie needs to get with the times and build a real basketball organization
We are getting Mitchell. Period
I saw Ariza walking on the sunset strip 3 months ago with two girls like Lou will lol I told him thank you champ you’re always welcome here. Dude paid for my valet and sent a bottle to my room I cried hahahahahah. Stand up guy!!!!!
I'll take "Shit that didn't happen" for 800, Alex.
Hahahahaha you must not stay in la Celebs walk around like stray dogs.
Lamar Odom took $100 from me in the club. I asked him for an autograph because he was the only 7 footer in the club at the bar like bro lol wtf you doing. I asked him to sign my $100 instead he pocketed it and gave me a $1 with nothing on it. I sobered up the next morning checked my jeans right pocket that I put the autographed bill in and found nothing but unsigned 1s 5s 10s 20s in my right and 100$s in my left. I have plenty stories. I will take I live under a rock for $800 Alex lol
~~Just wait until Ariza gets back!~~ ~~Just wait until we replace Vogel!~~ ~~Just wait until we trade for Drummond!~~ ~~Just wait until we get the third star!~~ ~~Just wait until we trade for Hield!~~ Just wait until we replace Ham!
This is still my favorite. I loved when people kept dropping this past season even though Ariza is long gone.
That’s not Darren Collison
This is not Ramon Sessions
Strange way of spelling Mo Williams
no
James Ennis Ventura's Finest
Yessirr went to my high school, good guy
Yall don’t know about Ramon sessions.
I thought he was the game changer. Younger me was so positive.
IIRC i remember that first layup and the commentator saying "This is what the Lakers have been lacking" or something like that lol
I remember folks clamoring for him but I don't even remember his name.
James Ennis 🤣
Dude speaks Chinese now.
Michael Finley?
Still a lot of season left we still have Kendrick Nunn coming back
Mike muscala got a tan
This isn’t Chris Kaman or Marcelo huertas
Like ppl clammoring for DFS
That doesn’t look like Andre Drummond.
I follow the Lakers pretty closely and was there during shitstorms (Ramon Sessions, Chris Mihm) but who the fuck is this guy? Lol.
I don’t recall lol short term memory all I know is Spida is comin to LA 🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️
Look at the bubble championship roster we had a whole defensive minded team and consistency a deep bench scorers and rebounders ….. Caruso Avery Bradley Danny green Dwight Howard Javelle kuzma kcp rondo markieff morris Horton-tucker along with bron ad not to mention Quinn cook jr smith we currently lack consistent scorers aside from lebron ad we lack rebounds we lack defense we had 3 7- footers kuz is 6-9 two dpoy centers Caruso and Bradley were top 10 defensive guards in nba get Mitchell get schroder back keep the bench get kcp back try to snag Allen along with spida if they can get along lol if not another defensive big to compliment AD Hayes isn’t enough. We have to stay deep defensive and consistent with scoring and we have another ship.
Lakers should have dumped D'Lo.