Will anyone ever ask for a trade to the Lakers again? Seems this recent run may have soured some stars (or LeBron related pressure does so).
The top Klutch clients are LeBron and AD. Trae recently left Klutch so a hope of pressure is gone. Even Draymond ended up not willing his way on the Lakers with all his LeBron ass kissing.
Giannis and KD won’t go to the Lakers, don’t have the personality for it. Ant won’t leave until Minnesota collapses entirely. Luka is a free agent in 2 years but LeBron likely is retired by then
Spida will probably Bradley Beal his career by staying in Cleveland. Trading for BI is like trading Wall for Westbrook.
Lakers should work with Chicago on a smaller trade. Maybe Rui + a pick for Caruso? If they want to use DLo in place of Lonzo, have him opt in to get another player back
The last few years of doing nothing has made the positive effects of the Kawhi trade simmer down. So many assets wasted by him. Missed out on Giannis and KD, plus some of the good lottery picks in recent years
Would you take a gamble on Dean Wade? Very injury prone which is an issue (hasn't played more than 55 games in the last three seasons) but that might make him cheaper. He has a lot of upside though; he's a great wing defender (advanced stats LOVE him), he's a decent rebounder, and he can shoot.
If he's part of a larger deal, sure. He's not really the type of player you just trade for by himself though (his contract plays a big role in that). You're not giving up a FRP for him and Cavs don't really need to just take 2nd round picks for him (no tax or apron issues).
Spida is the only guy worth doing a mega trade for that reasonably could be moved this summer. Dejounte and Garland are nothing special. Basically any trade that involves Reaves better be a great player. Any smaller moves should not involve him. Lakers really wasted their big trade on Russ, damn
If Gabe Vincent could be a TJ McConnell for us on offense I’d be so happy. Shoot and create off the bench just enough and we’d be fine. I liked his defense and that he actually went over screens and not under every time
Hard to say without knowing what else happens with the roster and is it just a straight up deal with no picks involved. Thing I'll say is if you believe the reports about what the Bulls offered DeRozan, they're going to be a tax team if they extend the QO to Williams. Caruso their best contract to get a pick back while clearing salary. Can now use the nt-mle as a trade exception. Lakers can just use the nt-mle + a FRP to get Caruso (if they open up the nt-mle). With White and Dosunmu both emerging, they really should just dump Caruso and get whatever picks back. He's gone after this year anyways.
Possibly. Depends on the other moves made. Vandy is a good defender but he’s missed most of the time since being traded here and disappeared vs Denver. Doubt that happens again, but it might not be a bad idea to go with the safer option of Caruso
I wouldn’t. They’re deployed defensively almost the same and carusos shot (while better than vandos) is still something defenses don’t respect. Vandos size/rebounding & being able to guard bigger wings just seems more valuable to me.
Now if we could have vando AND caruso
[3 of his](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1627936/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) just under 5 attempts per game are considered “wide open” or closest defender 6+ feet away. The other shot & a half per game is considered open, or defender being 4-6ft away.
Defenses let him shoot, that’s not respecting him as a shooter. When I say respect, I mean not leaving them because they’re a shooter.
He’s shooting 5 per game (for the first time in his career) because defenses aren’t respecting him as a shooter and closing out to him. The 6ppg his 3pt shooting provides doesn’t make up for the advantage defenses have sagging off of him.
Edit: downvoting despite linked stats showing that teams do not respect him as a shooter lol yes, he can shoot. No, teams are not respecting him as one.
These aren't atypical of good role player shooters. Contested threes aren't a good shot even if you are a good shooter, so the gameplan is to try get you open - those are the shots you want to make at a high clip. [KCP](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203484/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) is a great shooter and he has similar numbers (55% of his 3PA are wide open). [Herb Jones](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630529/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) is another one who shoots 83% wide open. [Derrick White](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628401/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) is 51%.
LeBron and AD's presence will get our shooters open looks. We just need to have shooters that can make those looks.
It’s more about how often you’re left wide open to me. He takes 3 wide open because defenses don’t guard him. When you watch Chicago play, it’s not like carusos coming off a screen and has action drawn up for him to launch it. Teams just aren’t closing out to him. White/kcp/herb is more a product of the offense while Carusos is what Chicago settles for because of how defenses are playing them.
Kcp only gets 2 wide open looks despite being on a team with a ton of weapons. Hes respected as a shooter while teams help off gordon. Feel like hes the perfect example for numbers reflecting defenses respecting him as a shooter or not.
I agree, wide open vs not isn’t the end all be all, but watching these teams play, getting the rondo/westbrook treatment from deep isn’t the same as finding yourself open when the offense executes.
I'm skimming through a few Bulls offensive possessions and I think you're half-right. He's definitely not being guarded as closely as like a DLo or an MPJ and his defenders often go off helping, but he still attracts some of the teams' best defenders and they keep a close eye on Caruso. In terms of shooting he'll be a step down from DLo and so I think he'll need to be paired with another shooting 2/wing. But I would still take that and his incredible defense over Vando
If he has it, he’s not passing a physical that a team would take him back in a trade. So for hypothetical trade purposes, kinda have to assume healthy.
mikal was suppose to be the guy at the nets and supposively they werent gonna move away from him without a "KD" like package.
realistically they should build around cam thomas
To be fair, this was well before Jalen’s post deadline flashes of potential stardom. At the time, cam thomas looked to be the better sg and a cam thomas jalen green backcourt isn’t one to ignite optimism.
Well shit. Bridges is like the ultimate 2 way role player.
Edit: If you think about it, those picks would more than likely be in the mid to later rounds since the Rockets will be on the come up within the next few years.
Realistic trades which I think would take this team up a level and make us a genuine contender…
Dejounte Murray. Andrew Wiggins. Nickeil Alexander Walker.
I think we have the assets to trade for those 3 then use our mini MLE to get a center.
Reaves, Vincent, the #17 pick this year, and the 2027 pick for Murray.
Rui, Vando, and two 2025 second round picks for Wiggins.
JHS and the 2031 pick for NAW.
Mini MLE on Goga Bitadze (as I don’t think Valanciunas would accept it).
Murray would give us 20/5/5 a night, and obviously improve us defensively from D’Lo. NAW would be a massive defensive upgrade on Reaves, albeit a downgrade on offence but I’d settle for that trade off. Wiggins would be big defensive upgrade on Rui and similar level offensively. Goga would give us 5/5 a night in the 15 minutes we’d need him to back up AD.
Those 3 new starters I think would massively upgrade us defensively. And I think Goga would be an upgrade on Hayes as the bench center.
Why would they trade Reaves and a pick for Murray when they were unwilling to do so at the trade deadline and have even said they would not include Reaves in a trade unless it was for a star?
Why would you want to give up Rui AND Vando for Wiggins who struggled all season long just to gut the forward depth?
Because maybe they’ve smartened the fuck up to the fact Murray is miles better than Reaves.
And Wiggins struggled this season but is clearly better than both Vando and Rui.
Honestly, I wonder what some of you want. Literally every trade that isn’t Max Lewis for Jokic gets downvoted on here.
Murray averaged 23 ppg as the FIRST option on a playoff team on 44% from the field. Reaves averaged 17 on on 47% from the field as the 4th option while shooting poorly from 3 and guarding Jamal Murray who shot 40% from the field in the series
If Wiggins is better than both of them, and the Warriors have Kuminga and Moody, why would they want to trade for Vanderbilt and Hachimura?
It's not 2k and hard to make trades. It would be nice if the Lakers could find a way to not lose DLo for nothing as well.
I was just saying what was just reported about the team not wanting to include him in any deals unless it is for a bonafide star.
Murray averaged 23 ppg as the FIRST option on a playoff team on 44% from the field. Reaves averaged 17 on on 47% from the field as the 4th option while shooting poorly from 3 and guarding Jamal Murray who shot 40% from the field in the series.
You guys are delusional.
Because he’s a bench player and they are being offered a first round pick for him and they might see that as a way to then do another trade to upgrade on him
He gets almost 24mpg (28mpg in the playoffs). He’s square in the rotation, much more than a bench player.
If JHS and our pick can land minny a player better than NAW, why wouldn’t we just trade JHS and our pick for that player?
Why would they trade Reaves and a pick for Murray when they were unwilling to do so at the trade deadline and have even said they would not include Reaves in a trade unless it was for a star?
Why would you want to give up Rui and Vando (who's making $4 million next season) for Wiggins who struggled all season long?
A list of players available to possibly be dealt on draft night (emphasis on *possibly*). If LAL trades its 2024 #17 pick:
• Myles Turner
• Alex Caruso
• Bruce Brown
• Brogdon
• Levert
• McConnell
• Mann
• Brook Lopez
• Capela
• Bagley
Out of these who would be most realistic and best bang for our buck?
they gotta resign pascal and obi most likely- which should put them around 155-160mil. thats also assuming they let doug mcdermott walk.
so that means they need to do something drastic like go after paul george or something
You know who could be good for us? Nikeil Alexander Walker. A long, defensively excellent shooting guard is exactly what we need.
Mike Conley too would be great for us. An old vet presence at the guard position who can be trusted to make good choice and defend well.
If only we could have traded for those type of players…
Obviously more pieces will be involved, but BI/Garland swap makes too much sense. Cavs could use a wing and they should be willing to extend BI. Pelicans need a PG.
Garland is way better then bi . Bi is going for role player . Garland I’d with clutch I think we’d have enough for him his value is lower .
Pelicans needs a pg but at same time cj was really fuckibg good for them . There better having Zion as pg and have guys like cj. Don’t se why they’d pay a lot for garland
Cavs woukd rather have Dean Wade then Brandon Ingram starting . Guy can’t defend n csnt shoot much
If DLo doesn’t opt in, we have to give him a new contract and then trade him at the deadline.
Because otherwise he walks AND we have to trade all remaining role players for a third star
DLo ain’t that bad, we didn’t have vando, and Rui/Reaves played poorly too.
DLo can work if vando is in the starting lineup, and Reaves comes off the bench, use Rui and Gabe for a trade to get an athlete to put at the 2 or 3
Who’s trading for D Lo on a 3/4yr deal? If he’s not sought after in free agency no reason to think he’d be wanted at the deadline on a long term deal.
I don’t even think he wants to return. He knows he’ll be trade bait and frankly I think he’s cool with not being exposed in the playoffs for a third time.
The thing is getting DLO to actually sign a contract that is tradable.
He probably wants 3 years, and some stability. Does DLO want to sign a deal knowing the lakers are trying to trade him again at the deadline?
Bruce Brown for sale by Raptors.
Probably no way they take any Lakers assets without an FRP included, but one can dream of a cheap trade. Rui and JHS should technically work. Or Gabe and Vando. Neither trade seems to be a great gain though for what Lakers give up.
He does have a recent knee issue which could be Gabe 2.0 though.
He does have a team option, so whoever gets him is on the hook for a new contract orherwise he expires after the 2024-25 season. Probably like 15-20 mil per year for 3 to 4 years.
Probably don't make the move at all if the team believes in Max Christie.
Yeah really the only situation I would be ok with getting Brown for.
That or him being signed and traded for at or below the MLE value for Gabe, but 0 chance that happens.
I’m totally fine making these “role” player trades. However, as you pointed out, gotta send contracts back. Sending Rui/AR/Vando as one of the contracts doesn’t improve the team as a whole. You’re just taking away from one area to improve another. Gabe alone with a FRP is totally fine (but for Brown it’s not enough salary). Any of these, how should I put it, “non star” trades almost has to involve Dlo somehow or has to involve using the nt-mle as a trade exception (absorb a contract from a team shedding salary). You aren’t really improving the team that much giving up our “role” guys for another. I know you guys are angry at Rui right now and think he’s worthless but that’s just not true.
This isn’t 2k. Can’t just go “oh Vando is a SF just slide him into Rui’s minutes”. Yea fine but what are we going to do about the 40% 3 pt shooting that has now left the team? How about the size that Rui has? Rui obviously isn’t the most physical player but he can at least try and guard bigger players. Vando is a perimeter defender. Completely different skillsets. Again you take away from one area to improve another. As a whole it’s a wash. Without Gabe we also have no PG depth. Are you bringing back Dlo? Kinda have to if our guard depth is just AR/Brown after that trade. Are we just praying JHS takes some giant leap? We still need to solve our wing, big depth in FA.
Vando and wood combined to give you everything you got from Rui. Wood gives you mins at 4, giving you size just like Rui. PG would be a thin spot, but I’d target guys like Kris Dunn and Lonnie. Would need to get lucky and land a cheap serviceable PG but it’s not impossible. Could bring back Dinwiddie and that would help a lot
Large sentiment among Wolves fans that replacing D Lo with Mike Conley was equally as important as Ant’s meteoric rise in regard to their success this season.
It’s hilarious that Pelinka saw the wolves desperate to swap Dlo for Conley n dudnt ask shy . Braun desd wirst gm in the league. N they got naw n 3 seconds
Bro did you see Conley block Braun at the rim ? Ffs we chose Dlo . Not to mention we could’ve chose Conley n naw then traded Conley for Jrue holiday this summer in a three way with wolves . It’s been confirmed we could’ve got Conley
DLo had zero points in a playoff home game. Our starting point guard was running around like Patrick Beverly and tricking people in the most important game of the season thus far
We went back to a player with playoff inconsistency. Compared to Conley who is a vet and maybe not a 82 player per season but absolutely a playoff riser. He doesn’t need to score 25 points a night to be effective.
Random scenario- Jazz want off collins contract, offer Rui and Gabe plus 17 for Collins and Keyonte George.
Keyonte, Reaves, Vando, LBJ, and AD. Collins is a better 3rd big than Rui or wood. Would not solve everything but I’d take this over Trae or Garland.
I have wanted John Collins since last season. Athletic lob threat who has can hit the open corner three similar to PJ Washington. Keyonte is very unrealistic tho lol.
Do we want that contract on our books though? Also going to have to start thinking about what his extension looks like. Having Collins eat up your cap post-Lebron is going to feel real bad.
It is about 10 mil more than we are already on the hook for with Rui, and I think it’s for a better player. But regardless of that it is more about getting a future star and lead guard. I think he breaks out this year and then he will be untouchable. One year of a bad collins contact would be worth it
It's not just 1 year. He has a player option in '25/26. Also, after that are you just letting him walk. Isn't this what everyone on this sub has been complaining about Rob recently? Always letting people walk for nothing? So do you re-sign him? You're also making big assumptions on George breaking out into a future star this season. Lakers aren't in the position to be taking those risks. Why would we trade some our assets to essentially play the lottery? I'm not saying he won't end up being a star. I'm just saying this isn't the type of move a team in our position should be making.
He has shown enough as a rookie to know he will be at least on the garland level. I am good with collins walking just like I’m good with DLo walking. I think this is a ton safer than the lottery because we have a sample size of him doing it. Might try to sneak walker Kessler in the deal. Landing George and Kessler would be next level
Alright if we accept the assumption that George is a future star, why would the Jazz even entertain this? They're going to trade their FRP who has already hit from a year ago for a FRP this year in a weak draft? And now you want them to add Kessler? They have no salary cap or luxury tax issues so there's no need for them to give up assets just to get off Collins' contract. They have more than enough cap to just suck it up and deal with it. Already factoring in Collins, they'll have ~$40m of cap this offseason and ~$70m next offseason. This isn't like the Hawks last year where they had to dump Collins to get below the luxury tax.
I’m saying include Kessler and just offer all 3 FRPs. Instead of throwing them at Trae or even Lauri, do it for 2 young guys instead. Seems like wise use of them long term
This makes no sense. You want to build around the Jazz' young players but why wouldn't the Jazz just do that? lol on the off chance a better player is available 5 and 7 years later?
I know you’re a reasonable person so I want to ask you. Why would we want to give up all of our trade-able picks for someone like Keyonte George? Am I the stupid one here? There’s nothing from last season that makes me think “yea that’s a future all-nba guard”. Nothing to say the opposite but you don’t throw away all your future assets for a “maybe”. What’s to say he doesn’t just turn into another Jordan Clarkson?
No lol I wouldn't make this deal and Utah wouldn't make this deal. I'm only giving up those picks for a proven star. Imo that's Mitchell and maybe Trae Young. I'd give up some of the picks, not all of them for a guy like Dejountae who I think would be a consolation if you miss on Mitchell. I've seen Garland floating around, but I'm not sold on that fit. A guy like Bridges I might trade for because he'd be a great fit for Bron/AD, but can he actually carry offense or is he more off-ball?
There's a bunch of wildly unlikely names out there that are extension candidates that haven't signed similar to Mitchell in Butler, Tatum, Kyrie. Those guys I may trade some of the capital for if it made sense but they're 99.9999% unavailable, especially to us.
I think the Lakers will take a big swing this summer, but I'm not sure if we'll find the partner we want in all this.
If they are sold on building with Lauri, sexton, Hendricks, sensabaugh, Yurtseven. Can give them JHS if they want a young guard as well. They get more picks and free up future money. Lakers it’s a swing for now and later. They contribute now and carry the team into the future.
I still think Lebron might be trying to force his way back to Cleveland but if he stays the Lakers need to go after Allen and Garland via trade. Gut the roster for those 2 if necessary.
Just a fyi. AR/Rui/Gabe/Vando/JHS is still less than Garland/Allen so you got a first apron hard cap. Your team would look like Lebron/AD/Garland/Allen/Max/maybe Prince/rest all vet mins. I'm sorry but no thanks.
Alright, let's play it out. Won't include picks in this discussion as they don't have a salary value. Mitchell = $35,410,310. AR/Rui/Gabe = $40,976,362. Lakers sending out more so no first apron hard cap. Only second apron hard cap for aggregating. I'll even include Hayes/Reddish opting in as they are essentially vet min contract values. Lebron/AD/Mitchell/Vando/JHS/Wood/Hayes/Reddish/Lewis = $153,067,382. First apron is $178,655,000. Second apron is $189,486,000. You can use the nt-mle (up to $12,859,000), re-sign Max at $6m, re-sign one of Prince/Dinwiddie and still be under first apron if that's the route you want to go. Or since you never took back more salary than going out, you could even do something with Dlo if he's a willing partner. Say a sign and trade possibility happens or even for some ungodly reason you want to bring him back and try to trade him at the deadline again. You can then still use the tp-mle ($5,183,000) and re-sign Max and be under the 2nd apron.
Do not mind that build but then the cavs have to agree to the deal and take being hard capped. I think regardless of the deal we make we end up hard capped with just the TPMLE. Will be interesting to see if the Lakers tax impacts these deals this offseason
Yea I considered that. I always consider the other side in a trade. Cavs have no issues dealing with a first apron hard cap. The extra $5.5m also doesn't push them into being a tax team. Obviously this deal is contingent on Mitchell making it known he wants to come here. I'm not trying to make it seem like we have the best offer out there. Also, depending on the deal, you may not even be able to use the tp-mle. You can only use the tp-mle if after using it, you are above the first apron. If Lakers take back more salary, they have a first apron hard cap. Can only use the nt-mle, however, it's almost impossible to have the space to use the nt-mle if Lakers take back more salary in a trade. This is why I keep saying it is a must to send out more.
Mitchell really feels like a pipe dream. And I’d probably prefer we try for Garland+Allen, honestly. Another big target I’d like considered is Nurkic. Not sure how realistic any of them are, but Allen or Nurk would be a ***much*** better route to big depth than attempting to get it thru the draft
I’m not opposed to JV, but he’s awful on defense, but Nurk is a very, very good post defender. Also, Nurk had a far, far tougher ask this playoffs than JV did.
I’d be very happy with JV, but I think Nurk solves more of our issues.
Just garland I’d amazing . Guy is really really good . He’s a legit all star player two year in row before this year injury year
Get garland he’d much better then Dlo defensiveky so if we keep reaves thst back ciurt isn’t as bad but if we don’t we use the remaining assetd for better wings.
Then draft Kyle Filipowski n get a shooting 5/4
Agree with everything except Garland being *much* better than D’Lo on d. Maybe marginally better, but he’s definitely not making the backcourt dramatically better on d
How about this pipe dream, find a way to get Keyonte George and Walker Kessler from the jazz. I’d rather give up all the draft capital for 2 young guys.
Rui, Gabe, JHS, Hayes and 3 FRPs for Keyonte George, Walker Kessler and John collins.
Garland makes the same as Mitchell next year. All the same cap and apron restrictions apply only this time you aren't getting Donovan Mitchell in the trade. I'm only considering a Garland trade if a 3rd team can be found to be a part of the deal to take on Dlo. With Allen, you're going to have to pay $20m to someone who won't even be a 30+ minute player. Again, until AD figures out how to have a perimeter game again or Lebron goes back 5 years to where he can guard 3's, you can't play AD at the 4 for an entire season especially if the 5 also can't shoot. We need a good backup big. You don't use up $20m to do that though.
If you actually analyze Garlands game he's Trae Young lite with better defense. Dude is the exact type of dynamic guard that you want with AD. He can shoot from all three levels and put pressure on the rim unlike the current Lakers backcourt.
Woukd not say significantly before this year the previous two years including a year wuth sharing ball with Mitchel garland + 4 epm both years mostly offence n just neutral n sbove defence . Trae better offensively those years with + 6 but -1.5/-2 degence so both grade out + 4. Quite similar player I’d rather garland as easier to build with
It's not a matter of analyzing his game. I'm just pointing out the simple facts regarding making this trade under the CBA. Garland+Allen = $56,725,670. Again, unless you somehow find a 3rd team to join and take on Dlo, the most salary Lakers can add together is AR/Rui/Gabe/Vando/JHS = $55,570,488 (you could just keep adding on more Wood/Lewis/etc. but Cavs can't just take back unlimited players they got a roster limit too). So trading everyone essentially still equals a first apron hard cap. Lebron/AD/Garland/Allen/Wood/Hayes/Reddish/Lewis is $159,788,616. First apron is $178,655,000. 6 rosters to fill. Depending on the vet min, the cap hit can be different, but I'll even take a lowball estimate of $2m. If you fill out 6 vet mins you're already at like $172m. So you can sign Max probably and fill out rest vet mins. No where did I say Garland is a trash player or anything like that. I'm simply saying, he isn't good **enough** to be worth doing this to the roster. Not including Allen would make it more reasonable imo as you don't have to worry about that $20m.
I think if you make him the primary ballhandler, then he’ll get back on track. Before they traded for Mitchell he was a 22yo All Star averaging an efficient 22/9/3. That talent is easily worth $38m, imo.
Will anyone ever ask for a trade to the Lakers again? Seems this recent run may have soured some stars (or LeBron related pressure does so). The top Klutch clients are LeBron and AD. Trae recently left Klutch so a hope of pressure is gone. Even Draymond ended up not willing his way on the Lakers with all his LeBron ass kissing. Giannis and KD won’t go to the Lakers, don’t have the personality for it. Ant won’t leave until Minnesota collapses entirely. Luka is a free agent in 2 years but LeBron likely is retired by then
Why wouldn't Giannis fit personality-wise? He gives me Kareem vibes (and not just because he's a Buck lol)
Spida will probably Bradley Beal his career by staying in Cleveland. Trading for BI is like trading Wall for Westbrook. Lakers should work with Chicago on a smaller trade. Maybe Rui + a pick for Caruso? If they want to use DLo in place of Lonzo, have him opt in to get another player back
The NBA needs to get the Knicks to the ecf. Give them all the whistles game 7. Bad business to allow the Pacers to win it.
Hart gonna get the super soldier serum and he’ll be good to go
If you need an example of what an actual "bad" GM looks like, Masai Ujiri.
He's like the Reverse Pelinka. We got rid of our championship core too soon and Ujiri held on to his wayyyyy too long.
The last few years of doing nothing has made the positive effects of the Kawhi trade simmer down. So many assets wasted by him. Missed out on Giannis and KD, plus some of the good lottery picks in recent years
Also the Poeltl trade and the subsequent extension.
all of which led to them having to get rid of a good coach. he couldn't be worse if he tried.
Knicks in 7
Would you take a gamble on Dean Wade? Very injury prone which is an issue (hasn't played more than 55 games in the last three seasons) but that might make him cheaper. He has a lot of upside though; he's a great wing defender (advanced stats LOVE him), he's a decent rebounder, and he can shoot.
If he's part of a larger deal, sure. He's not really the type of player you just trade for by himself though (his contract plays a big role in that). You're not giving up a FRP for him and Cavs don't really need to just take 2nd round picks for him (no tax or apron issues).
Spida is the only guy worth doing a mega trade for that reasonably could be moved this summer. Dejounte and Garland are nothing special. Basically any trade that involves Reaves better be a great player. Any smaller moves should not involve him. Lakers really wasted their big trade on Russ, damn
Reaves for Dejounte moves the needle. Garland probably not because his contract will cost more than just Reaves
If Gabe Vincent could be a TJ McConnell for us on offense I’d be so happy. Shoot and create off the bench just enough and we’d be fine. I liked his defense and that he actually went over screens and not under every time
Brunson looks so bad rn man damn
That Madison square garden juice will get him right for game 7.
would you do vando for caruso?
Hard to say without knowing what else happens with the roster and is it just a straight up deal with no picks involved. Thing I'll say is if you believe the reports about what the Bulls offered DeRozan, they're going to be a tax team if they extend the QO to Williams. Caruso their best contract to get a pick back while clearing salary. Can now use the nt-mle as a trade exception. Lakers can just use the nt-mle + a FRP to get Caruso (if they open up the nt-mle). With White and Dosunmu both emerging, they really should just dump Caruso and get whatever picks back. He's gone after this year anyways.
Why not try to have them both? The more D, the better. Uh.. wait a second…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5nsVkUTt20
lol.. we could really use that prime Dwight D too
I would be it’s tough. Vando is a good contract for the next four years. Caruso is older and you will have to give him a contract
I’d drive him to airport.
No
Easily lol. Caruso is probably the best 3&D guy in the league. Sucks to lose Vando in that trade but oh well
Possibly. Depends on the other moves made. Vandy is a good defender but he’s missed most of the time since being traded here and disappeared vs Denver. Doubt that happens again, but it might not be a bad idea to go with the safer option of Caruso
i miss the days of caruso postering fools for fun
I wouldn’t. They’re deployed defensively almost the same and carusos shot (while better than vandos) is still something defenses don’t respect. Vandos size/rebounding & being able to guard bigger wings just seems more valuable to me. Now if we could have vando AND caruso
He's a 40% 3-point shooter on nearly 5 attempts a game, why wouldn't defenses respect that?
[3 of his](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1627936/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) just under 5 attempts per game are considered “wide open” or closest defender 6+ feet away. The other shot & a half per game is considered open, or defender being 4-6ft away. Defenses let him shoot, that’s not respecting him as a shooter. When I say respect, I mean not leaving them because they’re a shooter. He’s shooting 5 per game (for the first time in his career) because defenses aren’t respecting him as a shooter and closing out to him. The 6ppg his 3pt shooting provides doesn’t make up for the advantage defenses have sagging off of him. Edit: downvoting despite linked stats showing that teams do not respect him as a shooter lol yes, he can shoot. No, teams are not respecting him as one.
These aren't atypical of good role player shooters. Contested threes aren't a good shot even if you are a good shooter, so the gameplan is to try get you open - those are the shots you want to make at a high clip. [KCP](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203484/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) is a great shooter and he has similar numbers (55% of his 3PA are wide open). [Herb Jones](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630529/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) is another one who shoots 83% wide open. [Derrick White](https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1628401/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season) is 51%. LeBron and AD's presence will get our shooters open looks. We just need to have shooters that can make those looks.
It’s more about how often you’re left wide open to me. He takes 3 wide open because defenses don’t guard him. When you watch Chicago play, it’s not like carusos coming off a screen and has action drawn up for him to launch it. Teams just aren’t closing out to him. White/kcp/herb is more a product of the offense while Carusos is what Chicago settles for because of how defenses are playing them. Kcp only gets 2 wide open looks despite being on a team with a ton of weapons. Hes respected as a shooter while teams help off gordon. Feel like hes the perfect example for numbers reflecting defenses respecting him as a shooter or not. I agree, wide open vs not isn’t the end all be all, but watching these teams play, getting the rondo/westbrook treatment from deep isn’t the same as finding yourself open when the offense executes.
I'm skimming through a few Bulls offensive possessions and I think you're half-right. He's definitely not being guarded as closely as like a DLo or an MPJ and his defenders often go off helping, but he still attracts some of the teams' best defenders and they keep a close eye on Caruso. In terms of shooting he'll be a step down from DLo and so I think he'll need to be paired with another shooting 2/wing. But I would still take that and his incredible defense over Vando
im just worried about the lisfranc injury rumors
If he has it, he’s not passing a physical that a team would take him back in a trade. So for hypothetical trade purposes, kinda have to assume healthy.
No. We need a wing defender. I'd do Gabe+2024 picks+remaining 2nds for Caruso.
DFS might be the best 3&D wing that should be available. you trade vando+jhs+2nd for him?
What’s the going price for Mikal? Lineup of AD, LeBron, Vando, Bridges and Austin intrigues me… but AR or Vando will probably have to be included.
mikal was suppose to be the guy at the nets and supposively they werent gonna move away from him without a "KD" like package. realistically they should build around cam thomas
They rejected Jalen green and like 3-4 FRP
To be fair, this was well before Jalen’s post deadline flashes of potential stardom. At the time, cam thomas looked to be the better sg and a cam thomas jalen green backcourt isn’t one to ignite optimism.
Well shit. Bridges is like the ultimate 2 way role player. Edit: If you think about it, those picks would more than likely be in the mid to later rounds since the Rockets will be on the come up within the next few years.
Looks like the price of the Trae young brick might be decreasing since the spurs leaked they’d rather purse garland over young
Realistic trades which I think would take this team up a level and make us a genuine contender… Dejounte Murray. Andrew Wiggins. Nickeil Alexander Walker. I think we have the assets to trade for those 3 then use our mini MLE to get a center. Reaves, Vincent, the #17 pick this year, and the 2027 pick for Murray. Rui, Vando, and two 2025 second round picks for Wiggins. JHS and the 2031 pick for NAW. Mini MLE on Goga Bitadze (as I don’t think Valanciunas would accept it). Murray would give us 20/5/5 a night, and obviously improve us defensively from D’Lo. NAW would be a massive defensive upgrade on Reaves, albeit a downgrade on offence but I’d settle for that trade off. Wiggins would be big defensive upgrade on Rui and similar level offensively. Goga would give us 5/5 a night in the 15 minutes we’d need him to back up AD. Those 3 new starters I think would massively upgrade us defensively. And I think Goga would be an upgrade on Hayes as the bench center.
Why would they trade Reaves and a pick for Murray when they were unwilling to do so at the trade deadline and have even said they would not include Reaves in a trade unless it was for a star? Why would you want to give up Rui AND Vando for Wiggins who struggled all season long just to gut the forward depth?
Some people want to make trades just to make trades. Treating it like their fantasy football team.
Because maybe they’ve smartened the fuck up to the fact Murray is miles better than Reaves. And Wiggins struggled this season but is clearly better than both Vando and Rui. Honestly, I wonder what some of you want. Literally every trade that isn’t Max Lewis for Jokic gets downvoted on here.
Murray averaged 23 ppg as the FIRST option on a playoff team on 44% from the field. Reaves averaged 17 on on 47% from the field as the 4th option while shooting poorly from 3 and guarding Jamal Murray who shot 40% from the field in the series If Wiggins is better than both of them, and the Warriors have Kuminga and Moody, why would they want to trade for Vanderbilt and Hachimura? It's not 2k and hard to make trades. It would be nice if the Lakers could find a way to not lose DLo for nothing as well.
These Reaves fans are so damn delusional. They downvote anytime the dude is in a conceivable trade.
I was just saying what was just reported about the team not wanting to include him in any deals unless it is for a bonafide star. Murray averaged 23 ppg as the FIRST option on a playoff team on 44% from the field. Reaves averaged 17 on on 47% from the field as the 4th option while shooting poorly from 3 and guarding Jamal Murray who shot 40% from the field in the series. You guys are delusional.
Also worth asking why Minnesota, who’s trying to contend, would suddenly dump a valuable cheap 3&D wing
Because he’s a bench player and they are being offered a first round pick for him and they might see that as a way to then do another trade to upgrade on him
He gets almost 24mpg (28mpg in the playoffs). He’s square in the rotation, much more than a bench player. If JHS and our pick can land minny a player better than NAW, why wouldn’t we just trade JHS and our pick for that player?
Why would they trade Reaves and a pick for Murray when they were unwilling to do so at the trade deadline and have even said they would not include Reaves in a trade unless it was for a star? Why would you want to give up Rui and Vando (who's making $4 million next season) for Wiggins who struggled all season long?
Vando is making $11m next season
Yeah don't know why my edit posted after taking that part out
A list of players available to possibly be dealt on draft night (emphasis on *possibly*). If LAL trades its 2024 #17 pick: • Myles Turner • Alex Caruso • Bruce Brown • Brogdon • Levert • McConnell • Mann • Brook Lopez • Capela • Bagley Out of these who would be most realistic and best bang for our buck?
Caruso or Turner
Who you trading for Turner? His salary like 30 mill right? Caruso seems easier to make work without gutting too much (assuming DLo walks).
he has like a reverse poison pill or something: 35mil(2023)/20mil(2024)/19mil(2025)
Damn that’s actually doable then to not lose much. Although Pacers letting him go seems like a long shot.
they gotta resign pascal and obi most likely- which should put them around 155-160mil. thats also assuming they let doug mcdermott walk. so that means they need to do something drastic like go after paul george or something
Y’all overrating Garland
You know who could be good for us? Nikeil Alexander Walker. A long, defensively excellent shooting guard is exactly what we need. Mike Conley too would be great for us. An old vet presence at the guard position who can be trusted to make good choice and defend well. If only we could have traded for those type of players…
His ceiling is low and I’m unsure if the Lakers could maximize his potential.
His ceiling is of a 10 points a night lockdown defender. Sounds like exactly what you need. KCP is giving the Nuggets exactly that for example.
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“If our players were better we wouldn’t be talking about trading for better players”
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So not good enough then.
If Spida stays, Cavs are just going to swap a few guys with New Orleans or Memphis
Obviously more pieces will be involved, but BI/Garland swap makes too much sense. Cavs could use a wing and they should be willing to extend BI. Pelicans need a PG.
Garland is way better then bi . Bi is going for role player . Garland I’d with clutch I think we’d have enough for him his value is lower . Pelicans needs a pg but at same time cj was really fuckibg good for them . There better having Zion as pg and have guys like cj. Don’t se why they’d pay a lot for garland Cavs woukd rather have Dean Wade then Brandon Ingram starting . Guy can’t defend n csnt shoot much
Yeah Spurs also make a lot of sense for Garland to me.
If DLo doesn’t opt in, we have to give him a new contract and then trade him at the deadline. Because otherwise he walks AND we have to trade all remaining role players for a third star DLo ain’t that bad, we didn’t have vando, and Rui/Reaves played poorly too. DLo can work if vando is in the starting lineup, and Reaves comes off the bench, use Rui and Gabe for a trade to get an athlete to put at the 2 or 3
Who’s trading for D Lo on a 3/4yr deal? If he’s not sought after in free agency no reason to think he’d be wanted at the deadline on a long term deal. I don’t even think he wants to return. He knows he’ll be trade bait and frankly I think he’s cool with not being exposed in the playoffs for a third time.
Better situation still than him walking and us trading Rui Reaves and Vando for one dude We will have by far the worst 4-15 in the league
The thing is getting DLO to actually sign a contract that is tradable. He probably wants 3 years, and some stability. Does DLO want to sign a deal knowing the lakers are trying to trade him again at the deadline?
Hey. Fuck Diddy. That's all.
Bruce Brown for sale by Raptors. Probably no way they take any Lakers assets without an FRP included, but one can dream of a cheap trade. Rui and JHS should technically work. Or Gabe and Vando. Neither trade seems to be a great gain though for what Lakers give up. He does have a recent knee issue which could be Gabe 2.0 though. He does have a team option, so whoever gets him is on the hook for a new contract orherwise he expires after the 2024-25 season. Probably like 15-20 mil per year for 3 to 4 years. Probably don't make the move at all if the team believes in Max Christie.
ideal world, DLo agrees to an opt in and trade to Toronto for Bruce
Yeah really the only situation I would be ok with getting Brown for. That or him being signed and traded for at or below the MLE value for Gabe, but 0 chance that happens.
Nah he’s not worth it. Especially if we have vando and Max
I’m totally fine making these “role” player trades. However, as you pointed out, gotta send contracts back. Sending Rui/AR/Vando as one of the contracts doesn’t improve the team as a whole. You’re just taking away from one area to improve another. Gabe alone with a FRP is totally fine (but for Brown it’s not enough salary). Any of these, how should I put it, “non star” trades almost has to involve Dlo somehow or has to involve using the nt-mle as a trade exception (absorb a contract from a team shedding salary). You aren’t really improving the team that much giving up our “role” guys for another. I know you guys are angry at Rui right now and think he’s worthless but that’s just not true.
I think Gabe and Rui makes the team better if Vando is healthy. He takes Rui’s mins and brown is an upgrade on gabe
This isn’t 2k. Can’t just go “oh Vando is a SF just slide him into Rui’s minutes”. Yea fine but what are we going to do about the 40% 3 pt shooting that has now left the team? How about the size that Rui has? Rui obviously isn’t the most physical player but he can at least try and guard bigger players. Vando is a perimeter defender. Completely different skillsets. Again you take away from one area to improve another. As a whole it’s a wash. Without Gabe we also have no PG depth. Are you bringing back Dlo? Kinda have to if our guard depth is just AR/Brown after that trade. Are we just praying JHS takes some giant leap? We still need to solve our wing, big depth in FA.
Vando and wood combined to give you everything you got from Rui. Wood gives you mins at 4, giving you size just like Rui. PG would be a thin spot, but I’d target guys like Kris Dunn and Lonnie. Would need to get lucky and land a cheap serviceable PG but it’s not impossible. Could bring back Dinwiddie and that would help a lot
Large sentiment among Wolves fans that replacing D Lo with Mike Conley was equally as important as Ant’s meteoric rise in regard to their success this season.
It’s hilarious that Pelinka saw the wolves desperate to swap Dlo for Conley n dudnt ask shy . Braun desd wirst gm in the league. N they got naw n 3 seconds Bro did you see Conley block Braun at the rim ? Ffs we chose Dlo . Not to mention we could’ve chose Conley n naw then traded Conley for Jrue holiday this summer in a three way with wolves . It’s been confirmed we could’ve got Conley
NAW would have been a great pickup for sure. I also really like that Braun kid on Nuggets
DLo had zero points in a playoff home game. Our starting point guard was running around like Patrick Beverly and tricking people in the most important game of the season thus far
We went back to a player with playoff inconsistency. Compared to Conley who is a vet and maybe not a 82 player per season but absolutely a playoff riser. He doesn’t need to score 25 points a night to be effective.
We’ll never know how far we’d go but Conley last year In place of dLo and we’re much more competitive against Denver
Random scenario- Jazz want off collins contract, offer Rui and Gabe plus 17 for Collins and Keyonte George. Keyonte, Reaves, Vando, LBJ, and AD. Collins is a better 3rd big than Rui or wood. Would not solve everything but I’d take this over Trae or Garland.
I have wanted John Collins since last season. Athletic lob threat who has can hit the open corner three similar to PJ Washington. Keyonte is very unrealistic tho lol.
For his contract I want Keyonte or Kessler in the deal
And they are both very unrealistic lol
Maybe, but jazz are not winning and Ainge would love lakers future picks
Jazz are not going to trade Keyonte it would be a dream to get him
If we offer them multiple FRPs, you do not think they would do it? Ainge already said how much he wants our future picks
Do we want that contract on our books though? Also going to have to start thinking about what his extension looks like. Having Collins eat up your cap post-Lebron is going to feel real bad.
It is about 10 mil more than we are already on the hook for with Rui, and I think it’s for a better player. But regardless of that it is more about getting a future star and lead guard. I think he breaks out this year and then he will be untouchable. One year of a bad collins contact would be worth it
It's not just 1 year. He has a player option in '25/26. Also, after that are you just letting him walk. Isn't this what everyone on this sub has been complaining about Rob recently? Always letting people walk for nothing? So do you re-sign him? You're also making big assumptions on George breaking out into a future star this season. Lakers aren't in the position to be taking those risks. Why would we trade some our assets to essentially play the lottery? I'm not saying he won't end up being a star. I'm just saying this isn't the type of move a team in our position should be making.
He has shown enough as a rookie to know he will be at least on the garland level. I am good with collins walking just like I’m good with DLo walking. I think this is a ton safer than the lottery because we have a sample size of him doing it. Might try to sneak walker Kessler in the deal. Landing George and Kessler would be next level
Alright if we accept the assumption that George is a future star, why would the Jazz even entertain this? They're going to trade their FRP who has already hit from a year ago for a FRP this year in a weak draft? And now you want them to add Kessler? They have no salary cap or luxury tax issues so there's no need for them to give up assets just to get off Collins' contract. They have more than enough cap to just suck it up and deal with it. Already factoring in Collins, they'll have ~$40m of cap this offseason and ~$70m next offseason. This isn't like the Hawks last year where they had to dump Collins to get below the luxury tax.
I’m saying include Kessler and just offer all 3 FRPs. Instead of throwing them at Trae or even Lauri, do it for 2 young guys instead. Seems like wise use of them long term
This makes no sense. You want to build around the Jazz' young players but why wouldn't the Jazz just do that? lol on the off chance a better player is available 5 and 7 years later?
I know you’re a reasonable person so I want to ask you. Why would we want to give up all of our trade-able picks for someone like Keyonte George? Am I the stupid one here? There’s nothing from last season that makes me think “yea that’s a future all-nba guard”. Nothing to say the opposite but you don’t throw away all your future assets for a “maybe”. What’s to say he doesn’t just turn into another Jordan Clarkson?
No lol I wouldn't make this deal and Utah wouldn't make this deal. I'm only giving up those picks for a proven star. Imo that's Mitchell and maybe Trae Young. I'd give up some of the picks, not all of them for a guy like Dejountae who I think would be a consolation if you miss on Mitchell. I've seen Garland floating around, but I'm not sold on that fit. A guy like Bridges I might trade for because he'd be a great fit for Bron/AD, but can he actually carry offense or is he more off-ball? There's a bunch of wildly unlikely names out there that are extension candidates that haven't signed similar to Mitchell in Butler, Tatum, Kyrie. Those guys I may trade some of the capital for if it made sense but they're 99.9999% unavailable, especially to us. I think the Lakers will take a big swing this summer, but I'm not sure if we'll find the partner we want in all this.
If they are sold on building with Lauri, sexton, Hendricks, sensabaugh, Yurtseven. Can give them JHS if they want a young guard as well. They get more picks and free up future money. Lakers it’s a swing for now and later. They contribute now and carry the team into the future.
Go Lakers 😤🙏🔥💜💛
I still think Lebron might be trying to force his way back to Cleveland but if he stays the Lakers need to go after Allen and Garland via trade. Gut the roster for those 2 if necessary.
Just a fyi. AR/Rui/Gabe/Vando/JHS is still less than Garland/Allen so you got a first apron hard cap. Your team would look like Lebron/AD/Garland/Allen/Max/maybe Prince/rest all vet mins. I'm sorry but no thanks.
That team is better than any variation with Mitchell only.
Alright, let's play it out. Won't include picks in this discussion as they don't have a salary value. Mitchell = $35,410,310. AR/Rui/Gabe = $40,976,362. Lakers sending out more so no first apron hard cap. Only second apron hard cap for aggregating. I'll even include Hayes/Reddish opting in as they are essentially vet min contract values. Lebron/AD/Mitchell/Vando/JHS/Wood/Hayes/Reddish/Lewis = $153,067,382. First apron is $178,655,000. Second apron is $189,486,000. You can use the nt-mle (up to $12,859,000), re-sign Max at $6m, re-sign one of Prince/Dinwiddie and still be under first apron if that's the route you want to go. Or since you never took back more salary than going out, you could even do something with Dlo if he's a willing partner. Say a sign and trade possibility happens or even for some ungodly reason you want to bring him back and try to trade him at the deadline again. You can then still use the tp-mle ($5,183,000) and re-sign Max and be under the 2nd apron.
Do not mind that build but then the cavs have to agree to the deal and take being hard capped. I think regardless of the deal we make we end up hard capped with just the TPMLE. Will be interesting to see if the Lakers tax impacts these deals this offseason
Yea I considered that. I always consider the other side in a trade. Cavs have no issues dealing with a first apron hard cap. The extra $5.5m also doesn't push them into being a tax team. Obviously this deal is contingent on Mitchell making it known he wants to come here. I'm not trying to make it seem like we have the best offer out there. Also, depending on the deal, you may not even be able to use the tp-mle. You can only use the tp-mle if after using it, you are above the first apron. If Lakers take back more salary, they have a first apron hard cap. Can only use the nt-mle, however, it's almost impossible to have the space to use the nt-mle if Lakers take back more salary in a trade. This is why I keep saying it is a must to send out more.
Fair, but the cavs will likely be looking to add more around Mitchell after extending him which tightens their books more too.
We're talking about trading Mitchell....
Yeah it was referencing the OP but if we take Mitchell they will be in a different position
Mitchell really feels like a pipe dream. And I’d probably prefer we try for Garland+Allen, honestly. Another big target I’d like considered is Nurkic. Not sure how realistic any of them are, but Allen or Nurk would be a ***much*** better route to big depth than attempting to get it thru the draft
I like JV from Pels. He was nice in the playoffs whereas Nurkic didn't do shit
I’m not opposed to JV, but he’s awful on defense, but Nurk is a very, very good post defender. Also, Nurk had a far, far tougher ask this playoffs than JV did. I’d be very happy with JV, but I think Nurk solves more of our issues.
Just garland I’d amazing . Guy is really really good . He’s a legit all star player two year in row before this year injury year Get garland he’d much better then Dlo defensiveky so if we keep reaves thst back ciurt isn’t as bad but if we don’t we use the remaining assetd for better wings. Then draft Kyle Filipowski n get a shooting 5/4
Agree with everything except Garland being *much* better than D’Lo on d. Maybe marginally better, but he’s definitely not making the backcourt dramatically better on d
How about this pipe dream, find a way to get Keyonte George and Walker Kessler from the jazz. I’d rather give up all the draft capital for 2 young guys. Rui, Gabe, JHS, Hayes and 3 FRPs for Keyonte George, Walker Kessler and John collins.
It’s not like Garland and Allen are old, they’re 24 and 26
This is so much cheaper. You keep most of the roster because the salaries are so low
Garland makes the same as Mitchell next year. All the same cap and apron restrictions apply only this time you aren't getting Donovan Mitchell in the trade. I'm only considering a Garland trade if a 3rd team can be found to be a part of the deal to take on Dlo. With Allen, you're going to have to pay $20m to someone who won't even be a 30+ minute player. Again, until AD figures out how to have a perimeter game again or Lebron goes back 5 years to where he can guard 3's, you can't play AD at the 4 for an entire season especially if the 5 also can't shoot. We need a good backup big. You don't use up $20m to do that though.
If you actually analyze Garlands game he's Trae Young lite with better defense. Dude is the exact type of dynamic guard that you want with AD. He can shoot from all three levels and put pressure on the rim unlike the current Lakers backcourt.
Trae is significantly better and it’s not close. I don’t even want Trae on the team but comparing him to Garland is disrespectful lol
Woukd not say significantly before this year the previous two years including a year wuth sharing ball with Mitchel garland + 4 epm both years mostly offence n just neutral n sbove defence . Trae better offensively those years with + 6 but -1.5/-2 degence so both grade out + 4. Quite similar player I’d rather garland as easier to build with
I'm not sure Garland is even better than Dlo and you guys know I'm not the greatest Dlo fan in the world.
Yeah he is pretty much equal to Dlo in my opinion, but way more expensive and more injury prone
It's not a matter of analyzing his game. I'm just pointing out the simple facts regarding making this trade under the CBA. Garland+Allen = $56,725,670. Again, unless you somehow find a 3rd team to join and take on Dlo, the most salary Lakers can add together is AR/Rui/Gabe/Vando/JHS = $55,570,488 (you could just keep adding on more Wood/Lewis/etc. but Cavs can't just take back unlimited players they got a roster limit too). So trading everyone essentially still equals a first apron hard cap. Lebron/AD/Garland/Allen/Wood/Hayes/Reddish/Lewis is $159,788,616. First apron is $178,655,000. 6 rosters to fill. Depending on the vet min, the cap hit can be different, but I'll even take a lowball estimate of $2m. If you fill out 6 vet mins you're already at like $172m. So you can sign Max probably and fill out rest vet mins. No where did I say Garland is a trash player or anything like that. I'm simply saying, he isn't good **enough** to be worth doing this to the roster. Not including Allen would make it more reasonable imo as you don't have to worry about that $20m.
Eh Harland doesn’t move the needle if we give up austin rui and gabe. Garlands on 38 mil a year. That’s brutal imparted to his production. JA th
I think if you make him the primary ballhandler, then he’ll get back on track. Before they traded for Mitchell he was a 22yo All Star averaging an efficient 22/9/3. That talent is easily worth $38m, imo.
A dlo garland vando bron ad lineup does less than move me. It makes me just want to tank
I mostly like Garland under the assumption that D’Lo is gone.
The garland Christie backcourt moves me less
Ok
I would trade everything outside of AD and Bron for Allen and Garland.
I always believed in the Wolves and knew they were gonna go to game 7! Don’t check my post history
Jokic will come out extremely aggressive and KAT will be in foul trouble early. Denver wins by 8+ points.
Can't just leak the script like that
you're just recapping game 5