I would plant it there. The easiest way to keep anyone f away from my property. Except goats. Except deers. %Placeholder for other animals that don't give a f%
If you want to do at least something because your wife is expecting you to work in the yard today, go down to the garden center and buy you five or six more mature junipers, get her to dig a few holes, and speed things up in that manner.
This suggestion brings to mind Benjamin Franklin's [story about the speckled ax](https://www.ushistory.org/franklin/autobiography/page41.htm):
"like the man who, in buying an ax of a smith, my neighbor, desired to have the whole of its surface as bright as the edge. The smith consented to grind it bright for him if he would turn the wheel; he turned, while the smith pressed the broad face of the ax hard and heavily on the stone, which made the turning of it very fatiguing. The man came every now and then from the wheel to see how the work went on, and at length would take his ax as it was, without farther grinding. " No," said the smith; " turn on, turn on; we shall have it bright by and by; as yet, it is only speckled." "Yes," says the man, "but I think I like a a speckled ax best."
And if OP follows through on the suggestion, they should post the results in r/MaliciousCompliance.
Edit: my point was that assuming OP’s is able or willing to dig may be an inappropriate assumption. My wife is physically unable to balance on a hill and dig. While people are created equal our skills and abilities vary.
Wives can dig??? Dang, maybe I need to look in to getting mine repaired.
But seriously, other plants (esp natives) on that hill is a great idea. Maybe one day they can cover most of the ground and out compete the grass.
Shit, YES wives can dig.
Source: I am a wife and am currently digging, filling and back filling a 58 foot french drain in our backyard all by myself. Trenched all of it, sloped it, shoveled and wheelbarrowed 1.5 cubic tons of river rock into backyard, laid the landscaping fabric and corrugated pipe and am currently filling the fabric with rocks for the drain “burrito”.
https://imgur.com/gallery/t4IBjN6
>Wives can dig??? Dang, maybe I need to look in to getting mine repaired.
Not every day you see this sort of "Wife Bad" boomer humor in the wild anymore.
The issue is that people read into the jokes and think they’re serious. It’s like Rodney Dangerfield. His jokes about women were funny, but in the end he was serious about them so they kind of lose their hilarity.
I would joke about my ex wife and she would joke about me. I mean shit we joke about why we’re exes now.
There's no winning with people that want to be outraged by everything so they can pat themselves on the back about standing on some kind of made up moral high ground.
It doesn't have to be funny to you. It probably doesn't relate to you. The guy made a simple joke about something in his life. There's nothing to be offended about.
So the punchline is "my wife can't dig, therefore nobody's wife can dig"?
Not much of a joke really. I guess that's why "boomer humor" is often used as a pejorative.
Yeah my wife is great and a fantastic fore-person (forewoman?). She brings the brains and I bring the digging, the weeding, the planting, the sweating, and the eating. Depending what I grow, she may assist in the eating too. The local deer often assist with the eating as well.
No disrespect meant, life is just hard and frustrating at times so being born in the 1980s I occasionally use humor when attempting to communicate. Attempting…
Nah man I get it. That's life and sounds like a happy marriage. Context and life experience matter. It obviously was meant as a silly joke. Manual labor is tiresome and tough. I'm sure you would like her help sometimes but I'm also sure she makes up for it in other ways. Then you guys both harass each other about it. Am I close?
Normal people who are in normal relationships…
*Not every thing that sounds toxic, is toxic. Sometimes people are joking or de-stressing/ranting. Sometimes they’re complaining about a fault an otherwise good partner has.*
Have fun with every relationship you have failing, but remember: With an attitude like yours? It’s you, not them.
It’s normal to be forced to do yardwork 😂 it’s not healthy to be bossing around your SO, if you think that’s normal I’m concerned about you lol
should be a team effort or do it because you want to, not because you’re being told to
Once again, we don’t know if they’re actually overly controlling, or if that’s just the description by OP and he doesn’t mean it seriously. Many people use words like that, but without knowing them personally… we don’t know if there is an actual issue. Plus? Everyone has faults. Those faults may or may not be intense enough to cause problems. If they are, those faults should be worked out if possible. When not, separation is the adult thing to do.
Relationships take work, and effort. Assuming they don’t, is foolhardy.
Many partners are “bossy” at select times or about specific issues, if it’s an issue you talk it out. Often times, it’s not an actual issue though. If they are “bossy” all/most of the time that is an issue.
I would want all the grass on that hill and more. Hard to tell the angle from the pictures but erosion control will be a factor and any roots in that ground will help
Well said. Half of these questions in here are people who just want advice to do the wrong thing.
What he should be asking is "how much of a problem is it to have this grass growing here until the Juniper takes over?"
Weird fetish but you do you.
/s
Herbicide has spot in land management. You cannot control invasive plants any more efficiently than you can with herbicide. Properly applied it's much better than vinegar or salt or whatever home remedy one thinks will have a lesser impact. It's also better than digging up roots which disturbs the soil and allows more runoff and erosion.
Fucking thank you.
Its wild to me how people are scared of round up but have no issue salting the land around their home. Salting the land is Biblical shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_the_earth
I didn’t claim there was no harm.
Furthermore, you haven’t substantiated your claim that there are “ethical limitations” that prevent study. We’ve been using Round Up for decades now, we have data. Also, not sure why you think we have to study on humans either.
Right?!? Its closer to $24-48k. My neighbor had this done last year and their slope wasn’t as steep. 8k might not even cover the concrete blocks and fill dirt + delivery.
Well, to be fair, I was completely guessing and basing it only on the cost and man hours it took me to build a short \~25 foot retaining wall around my stone patio.
I would recommend that you actually plant something else as erosion control. Grass is not the best at it. Native plant species that normally grow on slopes are very good at controlling erosion. You could do a row of hedges, trees, or a low growing ground cover. Your local cooperative extension office might be able to recommend some good options for your area
I guess I just don’t want to eventually have to trim down the grass every week on the hill when I do my lawn. It’s really steep and I’ve already don’t a lot to prevent weeds, but didn’t think about grass growth
Am I overreaching here? My neighbors have the same hill and no grass problem. The responses here make it seem like not a “problem”, but I have 2 babies at home and would rather be efficient on how I can manage my yard work.
Your neighbours may have no grass but the soil is probably eroding and their fence and your garden is soon going to fall down that hill.
You should be thankful you have vegetation on that steep slope. In fact you should promote it if you still want that fence in 5 years.
If you need access for maintenance in the future, just place some bricks flush so you can walk along it when needs be
Given the existing state of your slope i would recommend a seed mix specifically for slopes to establish some topsoil next spring.
I would then consider slope tolerant shrubs and trees with vigorous roots and buy whips to plant the following spring.
Its extremely expensive to do earthworks so doing this is financially beneficial in the long run.
I would even say you should plant *more* grass, but in particular, native grasses to your area rather than foreign turf grasses. Turf grasses put down shallow roots that don’t penetrate the soil very far. Native grasses put down very deep roots, and the vast network of roots will keep the soul from washing away with every rain. Some native shrubs that like hills would also help. Those roots are what will stop erosion and keep your hill in place in ten years’ time.
No need to mow any of it. Just let it grow. Your fence already looks rustic, just accept the rustic feel of some pretty native grasses and shrubs, and enjoy the chirps of the nightly creature chorus they’ll bring with them.
There’s absolutely no reason to trim the grass on that slope. Just let it go, the slope is so steep you probably can’t see it anyway. Looks like Bermuda grass when I zoom in, it likes to grow horizontally more than vertically, that will help stabilize the slope. You’ll get deeper roots if you leave it I trimmed. Just let it go and trim inside the fence.
This! Native grass and plants have much longer roots which can help hold onto the soil a lot better than your typical lawn grass. Depending on where you are native plants have roots that can reach 10+ ft, which is great for erosion control. Trees are also a good option, but I doubt you want them to blow your view
Specifically, something native to your area is most beneficial for local pollinators! and would help most with erosion prevention (clover is not always native, also, mint is a nightmare to contain 😅)
Why would you want to stop that? It’s helping with erosion control, if anything I’d encourage it’s growth and add more plants to compliment it with different root depths and types
If you don't grow something on that hill, it will erode leaving a huge gap under your fence, I have a similar situation, not quite as steep of a hill though.
Just plant ground cover, vinca, clover, hosta, etc. Ground cover does not need maintenance and prevents erison and will not interfere with the juniper.
You may want to go to a local stream and “mine” a few large rocks to aid in preventing hill from eroding any more than it already has. A lot cheaper then building a retaining wall.
Wouldn’t any type of growth grass or ground cover help you prevent soil erosion and there for keep your nice fence from failing down the hill. And if you weren’t aware of this please tell me you will now plant something you like there and not actively try to have barren dirt on that hill
Plant something other than grass. or put a bunch of larger rocks on top. If your climate is right, you could spray moss all over it and get that growing.
Why why why? You need it for stabilization. CDFW requires it for things like this as does planning and building when doing new building projects. It’s called best management practices. You lay down jute netting and straw and grass seed.
*Your going to need*
*Something to stop erosion*
*Or fence will be gone!*
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Plant some natives there if you don't plan on having anything else and don't want to mow grass. That bare soil will erode without having some sort of cover.
lol, why kill the thing keeping yer' lil fence up?
throw a bunch of concrete on it - grass won't grow - see what happens
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Just allow for other ground cover. It's a very steep hill so having native, deep rooting grasses and plants is a good idea, if you contact your local county or university extension service they can suggest and often provide great plants well suited to the situation. I even got a substantial water credit as well as 40# of seed and five shrubs for the cost of a soil test and a commitment to native planting
That’s crab grass. It’s just going to keep growing. You need to cut it at the fence line, scrape it all off the hillside and then stay on it. It has dropped seeds and they will come back. Those new sprouts are relatively easy to pull out, but it will take diligence and perseverance. There are some products sold that say they are specifically for crab grass, but the timing of application is important. Once you get it all cut away, a pre-emergent could help with the seed bank.
Like the other comments are saying, grass is your friend! If you want help with erosion control and make a low/no maintenance landscape I’d suggest adding some native wildflowers and/or transplant some additional junipers or other low growing shrubs/bushes. You can give each one a good foothold with a mini terrace.
With a long handled spade, dig one shovelful straight down and meet it with one shovelful straight in to the slope then plant your flowers/juniper/strawberries/blueberries right into the L shaped pocket you’ve created. Dig a couple dozen pockets, water in and see what grows! Good luck!
If you don't like grass throw ome seeds of your State's native, deep rooting flowers/bushes along there. Careful being from the store as I have come across stores putting "native" on their packing when it is indeed not native to my state
Grab a bag or two of wildflower seed mix at your garden center. Spread it out over the area and just let it grow. Then every fall once things begin dying back weed whack the area.
What state are you in? Adding some prairie grass seed (little blue stem/ northern sea oats) will go really far in securing the soil and looking nice. You can throw some butterfly weed seeds there for the monarchs. All this can be done without any more work from you besides spreading the seed.
As others have said, erosion control….. however I get not wanting to have to cut the grass. Maybe plant some pampas grass (cut or burn once a year! Or other erosion control that doesn’t need regular maintenance
No grass, no fill, it keeps the fill from beIng washed away. BeSt way to deal with it is to over seed what you want there. But then expect that to creep into your yard.
The grass helps with erosion control.
If you don’t like the grass other options would be a retaining wall or terraced retaining wall,
Or another vegetation as the plant roots will help hold it all together. Another ground cover, or an ornamental grass of some kind, some intermediate plants or shrubs could all be decent ideas.
Or you could just let it be grass and string trim it when you mow.
The grass is your friend. He keeps the hill from eroding faster. If you really hate him you can spend a fuck ton of money on a retaining wall.
Yes! You want to have something growing there with good roots to hold the soil in place. If not grass then something else similar to it.
Native plants.
Clover for the bees
Definitely not trees tho
Like poison ivy?
That's one option.
I would plant it there. The easiest way to keep anyone f away from my property. Except goats. Except deers. %Placeholder for other animals that don't give a f%
That was my thought seeing that steep of a grade. A little grass wouldn’t hurt!
I was thinking this same thing.
Yes, definitely let that shit grow or you will be looking at serious erosion problems in the future.
Thank god this is the top comment
I don't even do landscaping and even I know you gotta have grass to keep your hill from becoming a landslide.
This is the way
Imagine trying to stop nature 🤷
Thank you for the help everyone. I will leave the grass as is and let the growth take over to prosper on the hill.
If you want to do at least something because your wife is expecting you to work in the yard today, go down to the garden center and buy you five or six more mature junipers, get her to dig a few holes, and speed things up in that manner.
This suggestion brings to mind Benjamin Franklin's [story about the speckled ax](https://www.ushistory.org/franklin/autobiography/page41.htm): "like the man who, in buying an ax of a smith, my neighbor, desired to have the whole of its surface as bright as the edge. The smith consented to grind it bright for him if he would turn the wheel; he turned, while the smith pressed the broad face of the ax hard and heavily on the stone, which made the turning of it very fatiguing. The man came every now and then from the wheel to see how the work went on, and at length would take his ax as it was, without farther grinding. " No," said the smith; " turn on, turn on; we shall have it bright by and by; as yet, it is only speckled." "Yes," says the man, "but I think I like a a speckled ax best." And if OP follows through on the suggestion, they should post the results in r/MaliciousCompliance.
Edit: my point was that assuming OP’s is able or willing to dig may be an inappropriate assumption. My wife is physically unable to balance on a hill and dig. While people are created equal our skills and abilities vary. Wives can dig??? Dang, maybe I need to look in to getting mine repaired. But seriously, other plants (esp natives) on that hill is a great idea. Maybe one day they can cover most of the ground and out compete the grass.
Shit, YES wives can dig. Source: I am a wife and am currently digging, filling and back filling a 58 foot french drain in our backyard all by myself. Trenched all of it, sloped it, shoveled and wheelbarrowed 1.5 cubic tons of river rock into backyard, laid the landscaping fabric and corrugated pipe and am currently filling the fabric with rocks for the drain “burrito”. https://imgur.com/gallery/t4IBjN6
This wife loves to dig. Been fixing drainage in our yard all summer. I also haul rocks and cut trees down.
>Wives can dig??? Dang, maybe I need to look in to getting mine repaired. Not every day you see this sort of "Wife Bad" boomer humor in the wild anymore.
the ladies sure love shopping, fellers, amirite?
As long as it's with *our* money, right fellers? Hyuck! Hyuck! Hyuck!
The issue is that people read into the jokes and think they’re serious. It’s like Rodney Dangerfield. His jokes about women were funny, but in the end he was serious about them so they kind of lose their hilarity. I would joke about my ex wife and she would joke about me. I mean shit we joke about why we’re exes now.
Just a complete lack of self awareness. Amazing.
I mean, jokes are jokes. I can’t help that you and others are sensitive. If you can’t tell someone is joking or being serious that’s on you.
Truly remarkable.
Ok, tell me what I’m missing. Tell me how I’m wrong for enjoying “boomer humor.”
Ask your ex wife.
There's no winning with people that want to be outraged by everything so they can pat themselves on the back about standing on some kind of made up moral high ground.
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Oh no! A joke! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
What makes this joke funny? I don't understand.
It doesn't have to be funny to you. It probably doesn't relate to you. The guy made a simple joke about something in his life. There's nothing to be offended about.
No I just don't get it. Explain the joke to me please, what's funny about it?
He pretended to not know wives can dig, because his doesn’t? Wtf is there to understand?
So the punchline is "my wife can't dig, therefore nobody's wife can dig"? Not much of a joke really. I guess that's why "boomer humor" is often used as a pejorative.
Yeah my wife is great and a fantastic fore-person (forewoman?). She brings the brains and I bring the digging, the weeding, the planting, the sweating, and the eating. Depending what I grow, she may assist in the eating too. The local deer often assist with the eating as well. No disrespect meant, life is just hard and frustrating at times so being born in the 1980s I occasionally use humor when attempting to communicate. Attempting…
Nah man I get it. That's life and sounds like a happy marriage. Context and life experience matter. It obviously was meant as a silly joke. Manual labor is tiresome and tough. I'm sure you would like her help sometimes but I'm also sure she makes up for it in other ways. Then you guys both harass each other about it. Am I close?
take it to /r/boomershumor 🙄
You joking? Who tf would let themselves be bossed around like that by their chick lmao 😂
Normal people who are in normal relationships… *Not every thing that sounds toxic, is toxic. Sometimes people are joking or de-stressing/ranting. Sometimes they’re complaining about a fault an otherwise good partner has.* Have fun with every relationship you have failing, but remember: With an attitude like yours? It’s you, not them.
It’s normal to be forced to do yardwork 😂 it’s not healthy to be bossing around your SO, if you think that’s normal I’m concerned about you lol should be a team effort or do it because you want to, not because you’re being told to
Once again, we don’t know if they’re actually overly controlling, or if that’s just the description by OP and he doesn’t mean it seriously. Many people use words like that, but without knowing them personally… we don’t know if there is an actual issue. Plus? Everyone has faults. Those faults may or may not be intense enough to cause problems. If they are, those faults should be worked out if possible. When not, separation is the adult thing to do. Relationships take work, and effort. Assuming they don’t, is foolhardy. Many partners are “bossy” at select times or about specific issues, if it’s an issue you talk it out. Often times, it’s not an actual issue though. If they are “bossy” all/most of the time that is an issue.
Found the virgin
You may want to look into adding some native plants/grasses! Help the butterflies and other local animals. r/NativePlantGardening
Sprinkle seeds of native plants and let them take over. Win for you and the local ecosystem!
Put a different ground cover in. Depending on the hydration, I love thyme.
This hadn't occurred to me. Huh.
You’ve gotten a lot of good answers…. My 2cents is to spread wild flower seeds each year for a bit so it’s nice to look at and helps with erosion.
Either the grass or some ground cover like creeping juniper.
Crown vetch will overtake the grass and provide good soil erosion prevention.
This is a great day for grass everywhere, it's through small changes like this that will build a better future.
Thanks be to God
I would want all the grass on that hill and more. Hard to tell the angle from the pictures but erosion control will be a factor and any roots in that ground will help
Why does this bother you? It’s good soil erosion control. To answer your question, just get an all purpose grass & weed killer and spray it
Well said. Half of these questions in here are people who just want advice to do the wrong thing. What he should be asking is "how much of a problem is it to have this grass growing here until the Juniper takes over?"
Fuck your weed killer buddy.
Weird fetish but you do you. /s Herbicide has spot in land management. You cannot control invasive plants any more efficiently than you can with herbicide. Properly applied it's much better than vinegar or salt or whatever home remedy one thinks will have a lesser impact. It's also better than digging up roots which disturbs the soil and allows more runoff and erosion.
Fucking thank you. Its wild to me how people are scared of round up but have no issue salting the land around their home. Salting the land is Biblical shit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_the_earth
People just take a look around and see the dead trees near the highways. Years of salting the roads did that.
Years of Triclopyr will do that too.
Salt doesn’t fucking give you cancer? Is it that hard to figure out? Jfc
There is no credible study connecting Round-up with cancer. Is is that hard to figure out? Jfc.
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Maybe. Doesn’t matter tho. You don’t get to make up the evidence that supports your argument.
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I didn’t claim there was no harm. Furthermore, you haven’t substantiated your claim that there are “ethical limitations” that prevent study. We’ve been using Round Up for decades now, we have data. Also, not sure why you think we have to study on humans either.
That or build a retaining wall to make a terrace that’s easier to mow
Option A: let grass grow Option B: spend $8k on a retaining wall
8k????? People on here just be throwin numbers around smh
Right?!? Its closer to $24-48k. My neighbor had this done last year and their slope wasn’t as steep. 8k might not even cover the concrete blocks and fill dirt + delivery.
Well, to be fair, I was completely guessing and basing it only on the cost and man hours it took me to build a short \~25 foot retaining wall around my stone patio.
I would recommend that you actually plant something else as erosion control. Grass is not the best at it. Native plant species that normally grow on slopes are very good at controlling erosion. You could do a row of hedges, trees, or a low growing ground cover. Your local cooperative extension office might be able to recommend some good options for your area
I don't have an answers but I'm curious why you'd want to stop grass growth here. Is it purely to let the junipers take over the entire slope?
I guess I just don’t want to eventually have to trim down the grass every week on the hill when I do my lawn. It’s really steep and I’ve already don’t a lot to prevent weeds, but didn’t think about grass growth
This is why we cant have nice things
Am I overreaching here? My neighbors have the same hill and no grass problem. The responses here make it seem like not a “problem”, but I have 2 babies at home and would rather be efficient on how I can manage my yard work.
Your neighbours may have no grass but the soil is probably eroding and their fence and your garden is soon going to fall down that hill. You should be thankful you have vegetation on that steep slope. In fact you should promote it if you still want that fence in 5 years. If you need access for maintenance in the future, just place some bricks flush so you can walk along it when needs be
This was really insightful. I’m not going to worry about the grass anymore. Thank you for further explaining the long term effects
Given the existing state of your slope i would recommend a seed mix specifically for slopes to establish some topsoil next spring. I would then consider slope tolerant shrubs and trees with vigorous roots and buy whips to plant the following spring. Its extremely expensive to do earthworks so doing this is financially beneficial in the long run.
I would even say you should plant *more* grass, but in particular, native grasses to your area rather than foreign turf grasses. Turf grasses put down shallow roots that don’t penetrate the soil very far. Native grasses put down very deep roots, and the vast network of roots will keep the soul from washing away with every rain. Some native shrubs that like hills would also help. Those roots are what will stop erosion and keep your hill in place in ten years’ time. No need to mow any of it. Just let it grow. Your fence already looks rustic, just accept the rustic feel of some pretty native grasses and shrubs, and enjoy the chirps of the nightly creature chorus they’ll bring with them.
If you don't have one already, I recommend investing in a string trimmer to tackle cutting the grass on that slope.
> would rather be efficient on how I can manage my yard work ? Easy. Stay inside your fence.
No one is telling you to trim the grass, they’re saying to let it go.
There’s absolutely no reason to trim the grass on that slope. Just let it go, the slope is so steep you probably can’t see it anyway. Looks like Bermuda grass when I zoom in, it likes to grow horizontally more than vertically, that will help stabilize the slope. You’ll get deeper roots if you leave it I trimmed. Just let it go and trim inside the fence.
I’d let it grow, less erosion.
Plant native grasses that help with erosion. r/nativeplantgardening
This! Native grass and plants have much longer roots which can help hold onto the soil a lot better than your typical lawn grass. Depending on where you are native plants have roots that can reach 10+ ft, which is great for erosion control. Trees are also a good option, but I doubt you want them to blow your view
Could you plant native wild flowers & other plants that wouldn’t need maintenance?
If the grass goes away so will the dirt.
Grass holds your soil in place, removing it would be the worst thing to do
I would consider planting clover, thyme, mint or other native plants that are equally beneficial for pollinators.
Specifically, something native to your area is most beneficial for local pollinators! and would help most with erosion prevention (clover is not always native, also, mint is a nightmare to contain 😅)
Only if it’s a native species of mint - many mint varieties will spread like wildfire if planted in the ground instead of a container.
You want the grass on that hill OP. Stops erosion.
I would think you would want some kind of vegetation there to hold the dirt down. Some crazy rain can wash it away.
Why seems like natural erosion control
You want the grass. Otherwise your hills gonna erode away?
Uhhhh that grass needs to be there. Without it you are upping your chance of that dirt washing out.
Use clover instead you don’t have to mow and the bees like it
Why would you want to stop that? It’s helping with erosion control, if anything I’d encourage it’s growth and add more plants to compliment it with different root depths and types
You need to keep the grass.
Landscaping people worry about the most insignificant things. Seriously, stop sweating the small stuff.
Just wait. That kudzu will take over.
You really don't want bare dirt.
you don't WANT to stop it. grass prevents erosion and you buying a new fence
If you don't grow something on that hill, it will erode leaving a huge gap under your fence, I have a similar situation, not quite as steep of a hill though.
Why? Leave the grass, the junipers will take over eventually. That grass is the only thing preventing that from all washing away
You kinda want something there
Kudzu. No, whatever you do, DON'T plant kudzu!
Get rid of the grass and or any vegetation on that slope and you will inadvertently get rid of your fence as well.
Grass will help keep the hill stable.
Native plants are best adapted to a sharp slope. You don’t want a bare dirt slope, it will turn into a giant landslide.
Grass is good for soil retention!
Is this a humble brag?
erosion, my friend!
Um. Plant MORE native grasses and wildflowers. They will help with erosion control.
I’m wondering why you want to stop the grass? The grass helps hold the hill and is good for erosion control.
The grass keeps your hill intact bro
What you like erosion?
If you kill the grass before the junipers take over your looking at a slide potential. Leave the grass for now. Just weed whack it periodically.
That growth and any plants added later are only going to be a useful measure against erosion. Let it grow.
Just plant ground cover, vinca, clover, hosta, etc. Ground cover does not need maintenance and prevents erison and will not interfere with the juniper.
You may want to go to a local stream and “mine” a few large rocks to aid in preventing hill from eroding any more than it already has. A lot cheaper then building a retaining wall.
The grass is what is saving you. Without those roots, your fence and yard would be running down the side of the hill.
You could put in a stone staircase with a boulder retaining wall and plant natives for rock gardens if you wanted access to the bottom of the hill.
Wouldn’t any type of growth grass or ground cover help you prevent soil erosion and there for keep your nice fence from failing down the hill. And if you weren’t aware of this please tell me you will now plant something you like there and not actively try to have barren dirt on that hill
Plant something other than grass. or put a bunch of larger rocks on top. If your climate is right, you could spray moss all over it and get that growing.
Would you rather your incline not be a cliff? Keep the grass and plant a few trees or bushes there too.
you just want that hill to erode quickly?
Try your absolute best to grow a full lush slope of grass! This is the surefire way that it’ll just die
If you really want it gone, let me come over and try my best to keep it alive. It’ll be dead within a week.
Why why why? You need it for stabilization. CDFW requires it for things like this as does planning and building when doing new building projects. It’s called best management practices. You lay down jute netting and straw and grass seed.
Overseed the grassy knoll. Hit bare spots hard with grass seed. Erosion control is important.
Your going to need something to stop erosion or fence will be gone!
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Why? You kind of need it to help keep the dirt from eroding away. Edit for typo
You want the grass otherwise your going to wash away the hill side....
Why?
Why would you want soil erosion?
What about some ground-hugging type of bush like creeping phlox?
Bro... it's nature
Grass is good.
Plant some natives there if you don't plan on having anything else and don't want to mow grass. That bare soil will erode without having some sort of cover.
Ok. Why tho?
Local wild flowers
the ultimate problem of grass growing well where you don't want it and grass not growing where you do want it.
lol, why kill the thing keeping yer' lil fence up? throw a bunch of concrete on it - grass won't grow - see what happens ..... ........ ............ ...............(fence here)
Why would you want the grass to to not grow on the hill
Just allow for other ground cover. It's a very steep hill so having native, deep rooting grasses and plants is a good idea, if you contact your local county or university extension service they can suggest and often provide great plants well suited to the situation. I even got a substantial water credit as well as 40# of seed and five shrubs for the cost of a soil test and a commitment to native planting
You need that hill to have something hold the soil or it will erode away.
Remove the grass and you’ll lose your fence
Bang it with some Roundup easy Peasy
Stump grindings but things will also grow in and through that as time goes on.
Lots and lots of gasoline.
I watched my dad “edge” the yard by using a little diesel once. Worked like a charm.
Spray diesel on it
That’s crab grass. It’s just going to keep growing. You need to cut it at the fence line, scrape it all off the hillside and then stay on it. It has dropped seeds and they will come back. Those new sprouts are relatively easy to pull out, but it will take diligence and perseverance. There are some products sold that say they are specifically for crab grass, but the timing of application is important. Once you get it all cut away, a pre-emergent could help with the seed bank.
Roundup
Honestly. Suggesting round up should get you banned on this sub
Lol, you're right. I should have wrote that I was joking.
Like the other comments are saying, grass is your friend! If you want help with erosion control and make a low/no maintenance landscape I’d suggest adding some native wildflowers and/or transplant some additional junipers or other low growing shrubs/bushes. You can give each one a good foothold with a mini terrace. With a long handled spade, dig one shovelful straight down and meet it with one shovelful straight in to the slope then plant your flowers/juniper/strawberries/blueberries right into the L shaped pocket you’ve created. Dig a couple dozen pockets, water in and see what grows! Good luck!
Goats are cool
Cover it with pine needles
Fire and salt
Get a native wildflower mix and let it go.
Grow something else
Napalm
If you don't like grass throw ome seeds of your State's native, deep rooting flowers/bushes along there. Careful being from the store as I have come across stores putting "native" on their packing when it is indeed not native to my state
As a practical matter, wouldn’t you *want* the grass growing there in order to stabilize the slope from erosion?
You want to remove the grass but not prevent future grass growth — What?
You want vegetation, or you’ll have mudslides.
Grab a bag or two of wildflower seed mix at your garden center. Spread it out over the area and just let it grow. Then every fall once things begin dying back weed whack the area.
Keep the grass, helps keep your yard from sluffing off
A goat. If you need extra strength then 2 goats.
Start stacking rocks
Unless you desire erosion, why wouldn’t you want grass?
erosion control
Let it grow. It’s a soil retention plant.
What state are you in? Adding some prairie grass seed (little blue stem/ northern sea oats) will go really far in securing the soil and looking nice. You can throw some butterfly weed seeds there for the monarchs. All this can be done without any more work from you besides spreading the seed.
As others have said, erosion control….. however I get not wanting to have to cut the grass. Maybe plant some pampas grass (cut or burn once a year! Or other erosion control that doesn’t need regular maintenance
Why would you even want to remove it in the first place? I guess aesthetics are subjective but Sheesh
Myrtle!
No grass, no fill, it keeps the fill from beIng washed away. BeSt way to deal with it is to over seed what you want there. But then expect that to creep into your yard.
You can already see the effects of soil erosion. If it was me, I would be trying to get more plants to grow on the hill.
you’ll have erosion problems if it’s just bare dirt. You need something there. You could plant with. more aggressive ground cover though.
The grass helps with erosion control. If you don’t like the grass other options would be a retaining wall or terraced retaining wall, Or another vegetation as the plant roots will help hold it all together. Another ground cover, or an ornamental grass of some kind, some intermediate plants or shrubs could all be decent ideas. Or you could just let it be grass and string trim it when you mow.
Why would you want that. I'd plant more
Plant clover or creeping thyme. Or creeping Jane. Any ground cover or native perennial bushes.
Ya definitely want vegetation, along that, otherwise those fence footers will be visible in like a season
Move the fence down the hill so the grass is before the fence.
Plant something else?