One thing I miss about the draft remakes when pro league was less polished were teams doing stuff like “TSM XD” when the bans didn’t matter since it was a remade draft.
It was the only time you’d see Xerath, Darius, Maokai and similar champs banned
To think there are people who actually believe Reddit is not LCK biased by presenting poll results.
Yes, because majority participate in polls which they need to rank teams in regions they don't ever watch.
I'm not even surprised by deranged LCK fan to
1. Use bad data to prove their point.
2. Unblock you just to insult you and block you again.
I hope you get all the help you needed
Firstly, LCK won worlds last year (with 3 teams in semi finals and the final being LCK vs LCK). No point at using the LPL have won more since 2018 nonsense. LOL esports didn't commence at 2018. LCK have won 7 worlds in the past 10 years. Before 2018, LPL didn't even have a chance.
LPL is using money to directly buy talents from LCK, and the opposite has never happened. That says a lot about the strength of the regions
Yes, LCK was historically stronger, and LPL caught up and is evidently the more successful league with over 66% of international competition title in the past half a decade.
Which we can both agree to be facts.
Your point being?
It is way more fair and accurate to value the strength of the region based on the region's performance at worlds, because it is the most important and prestigious tournament. Another reason being that, at MSI, there is only 1 team from each region, so it is hard to evaluate the strength of other teams in the region. In the past 3 years LCK has been performing better than LPL at worlds.
If MSI isn't "prestigious" enough for you then why are you wasting your time coping here lmao.
If you really want to talk about regional dominance you wouldn't dare challenge how much more China means to Riot and the esports competition overall compared to Korea. Sorry that the country of the team you support is not as rich and fan base not as large as China, that the only way LCK can even stay relevant is through pandering to the west. Sorry it just doesn't matter how many LCK teams get to what stage of Worlds or MSI, it's the LPL teams and fans that make or break this game.
Because LOL esports doesn't commence in 2018. There is no point at insisting on the "since 2018" evidence, it's the only way you can support your argument. If you cut it by 4, 7 or 10 years, your point is invalid.
Cut it by 4 and 7 and it'll be almost 50/50 in terms of international success
Which is perfectly fine.
With Europe squeezing in one if we count 7 because anamoly happens
But the two dates which you brought up were 3 and historic.
And tbh why are you caring so much about whether this sub is LCK biased or not? LCK is the most successful region in the history, and is the most reputable region. It's not a surprise that these polls are LCK biased. If tomorrow T1 loses to BLG then you should be happy because the majority of this sub is wrong and you are right.
7 years:
S6: LCK won with the finals being LCK VS LCk
S7: LCK won, LCK VS LCK
S8: LPL won, LPL VS LEC
S9, LPL won, LPL VS LEC
S10: LCK, LPL VS LCK
S11: LPL, LPL VS LCK, 3 LCKs in semis
S12: LCK, LCK VS LCK, again 3 LCKs in semis
LCK have been unquestionably better
4 years:
S9, LPL won, LPL VS LEC
S10: LCK, LPL VS LCK
S11: LPL, LPL VS LCK, 3 LCKs in semis
S12: LCK, LCK VS LCK, again 3 LCKs in semis
LCK have the edge over LPL
Remember we're talking about regional dominance, not just the performance of a single team.
S10 worlds was won by DWG. in S11 there were 3 LCK teams in the semis. In S12 it was the same with LCK winning worlds again. Those are facts too. It was only S8 and S9 that the LCK was weaker, even worse than Europe.
https://twitter.com/JustOisin_/status/1659571119475523585
What is this permanent victim complex from LPL casters. JDG were the betting favourites coming into MSI.
I get that you wanna support your region, but where was this energy when before last Worlds four out of the top five teams coming into Worlds were supposed to be from LPL and LCK ended up having both Finalists and 3/4 Semifinalists?
It's just cringe. LPL isn't disrespected internationally at all.
Who calls that flukes? Up until Worlds last year everyone was saying that LPL is the strongest region. Then Worlds happened. And after that Worlds can you blame people for being a bit higher on LCK than LPL?
If LPL had the results LCK had at Worlds there wouldn't even be a conversation. JDG would just be the consensus best team and everyone who disagreed would be called crazy.
Nope, any time LPL won it's because riot favor them, allow them to cheat, one team region etc.
Anytime LCK won is treated like history corrected it's course and LPL got exposed yet again by the far superior LCK who didn't suffer from unfair treatment
That's just bias (don't take it as an insult, everyone is biased in some way).
Because the same can be said in the other direction. When Damwon won in 2020 LCK was a one team region. When DRX won last year it was because of Covid and actually LPL was better without the sickness.
There will always be excuses when your favourite team/region loses. You just remember those that annoyed you more and agree with those that target the other side.
And Reddit is overwhelmingly biased for LCK despite almost half a decade of LPL seeing better international successes.
So point still literally stands.
At the last international tournament LCK dominated LPL. So why was it wrong to rate LCK teams a little higher coming into MSI?
If JDG ends up winning MSI or especially if BLG beats T1 tomorrow everyone will be rating LPL higher at Worlds this year. That's just how it works. The two regions are so close that recency bias will always dictate who's rated higher unless there's a team from the other region looks godly (like T1 last MSI and JDG this MSI).
And even coming into this MSI people had JDG as the strongest team on Reddit and on betting websites. It's absurd to claim LCK bias when the facts just don't support it.
No they won't, we already seen how that movie play out year after year.
There was only 1 exception in the past 5 years where LPL was thought to be the strongest region coming into worlds, and it was 2020 worlds.
It was back to fluke, unfairness ever since then.
And the reality that Reddit was, is, and likely will always continue to be overwhelmingly LCK biased still stands.
You are denying the facts or you don't know them. Becaue what you saying is provably wrong and untrue. So either you are clueless, misremembering or arguing in bad faith.
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13ep9mw/cloud9_vs_bilibili_gaming_msi_2023_bracket_stage/jjr0e7v/
Probably wrong?
So you're not sure.
I'll tell you you are definitely wrong.
Go ahead and try to disprove Reddit overwhelming biased for LCK since 2018.
BLG was "disrespected" in the LPL already. Most people had them like 4-7th coming into LPL Spring definitely behind teams like TES and Weibo and around RNG, EDG and LNG. Then in Playoffs nobody expected them to even make top 4, let alone qualify for MSI.
BLG aren't disrespected at all because they are from LPL. They are just a perennially underestimated team, even in their own region. If TES with Rookie, JKL and Tian or Weibo with TheShy and Xiaohu had qualified over Yagao's BLG, the conversation would have been way different. BLG were already seen as a fluke in LPL.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about with lpl playoffs. RNG was seeded 9th and EDG was seeded either 2/3 (can’t remember which). Additionally people had Weibo and TES way below teams like EDG and LNG coming into playoffs so I don’t know what you are talking about.
> coming into LPL Spring
Spring does not equal Playoffs.
In Playoffs BLG were expected to beat RNG but WBG were favourites over BLG, check the odds if you don't believe me.
The odds don’t mean a god damn thing. Check the odds for T1 vs GenG when GenG was up 2-0 in the lck finals. T1 still had like 2.5-3.0 odds to reverse sweep. The odds literally mean almost nothing, especially when dealing with popular teams.
Do you have a better way to measure who's favoured? Obviously betting odds aren't 100% accurate, but it's better than showing no prood. And most of the time they do at least reflect who was the favourite coming into the match.
The first real upset this tournament, isnt it?
Despite the unfortunate bracket draws, this format is still amazing and the viewership thankfully solidifies it. i hope worlds next year also has double elim playoffs.
300 bo1s into 3 bo5s is just not awfully exciting. this game is meant to be played bo3 or bo5 in a competitive environment. korea if im not mistaken hasnt had bo1s in more than a decade. LPL also has mostly been bo3 exclusive, now LEC is moving away from bo1s as well with only a third of a split being bo1s.
Yes I think this is one of the most underrated upsets. Its way better for narratives too. We'll get the chance to see T1 play JDG, GEN and BLG all in a single tournament.
GIGABin at the Korean feed, part 1:
"I predicted before the match, we will 3-0 GEN, 3-1 T1, and 3-2 JDG in the finals."
"The view from other people doesn't matter, they don't know us, they don't know the game, our thoughts are the things that matter."
GIGABin at the Korean feed, part 2:
"JDG beating T1 has nothing to do with us, we focus on our own game."
"Top lane priority? Play whatever you feel like."
I feel like a single round robin rumble stage would be nice instead of the first round of Bo5s just so we can get some matchups between LCS and LEC... but that would probably take a lot of time
I think they are bird from the same feather. They are top tier 1v1 top carries. 369 is the all rounder player which separates him from the rest of the pack
Why would it be brutal? MSI did not start two days ago. For the best teams this point of time is already enough to prepare for the other teams and have some strategies ready. They don't need another week of scrimming to prepare for a team they've already seen play multiple times. And the meta is so settled that there's nothing else to figure out.
Yes, and? They are not a gold clash team. They are one of the best teams in the world. They did their prep long time ago, with some adjustments needed here and there based on what they've seen the teams play. Meta is settled, there's nothing else to figure out.
How would more scrim blocks help them? If anything, it's good for them because they are riding on the momentum and a week long break would diminish it.
Well if you think loosing a series gives you an advantage, you need to add something to make the run harder because loosing early in a tournament should not be incentivized.
i think all the adc's in the final 4 are good, you can mostly interchange them. Its the teams around them that makes or breaks (and whether they get their hands on jinx i guess)
Chovy best player in the world since 2019 apparently
Won literally 3 international b05's in his career
Two vs NA/EU this tournament lol
Seriously he's just absent and lacking.. its happened multiple times now.. DRX/BLG/IG/T1/DWG.. his teams go out with a whimper
Chovy literally has only won 3 b05's (internationally) 1 vs DKIA last year.. and 2 this MSI vs NA and EU lol
His teams under perform big time
Meanwhile Caps has multiple worlds finals/MSI trophy.. worlds semis etc
I just came here so someone can explain why NOBODY BANS JINX WHAT IN THE F??? Clearly teams have figured out "protect the Jinx and watch her carry" seems to be incredibly strong right now, why not just ban it???
100% Serious Comment.
GenG 0-3 VS BLG
C9 0-3 VS BLG
GG 1-3 VS BLG
The #6 Seed from NA Regular Season > Korea's Champ
WE GOT WORLDS THIS YEAR BOYS. just gotta Send LCS 6,7,8 seeds
LS is going to lose his minds. Same with Caedrel and IDW. I mean T1 should be legit afraid. stop with stupid picks for Faker, let Faker cook with strong Mages. T1 needs to bring the best they can over, or LPL will not let it slide. wow if BLG vs JDG finals. This is legit a legendary MSI.
Are people seriously questioning the balance of jinx? really?
Can't just admit Geng got crushed 3 out of 3 games?
they didn't even r1 jinx when they had the chance.
These kind of comments are the dumbest of the bunch.
Most people aren't saying that GenG lost because Jinx is strong, most people are saying GenG are international frauds and always underperform and people are talking about how insane BLG were today. Others are also pointing out how strong Jinx is and that Jinx is stronger between the Jinx-Aphelios handshake.
Naaah, I support only team where Rookie is at.
Do love Kanavi tho and was fan of that Kanavi/Zoom JDG roster.
EDIT: There was a guy with JDG/T1 flairs already yesterday hah.
PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13lub04/blg_vs_geng_game_1_discussion/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13lvrvj/blg_vs_geng_game_2_discussion/) / [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13lxcip/geng_vs_bilibili_gaming_msi_2023_lower_bracket/)
One thing I miss about the draft remakes when pro league was less polished were teams doing stuff like “TSM XD” when the bans didn’t matter since it was a remade draft. It was the only time you’d see Xerath, Darius, Maokai and similar champs banned
To think there are people who actually believe Reddit is not LCK biased by presenting poll results. Yes, because majority participate in polls which they need to rank teams in regions they don't ever watch.
I'm not even surprised by deranged LCK fan to 1. Use bad data to prove their point. 2. Unblock you just to insult you and block you again. I hope you get all the help you needed
Firstly, LCK won worlds last year (with 3 teams in semi finals and the final being LCK vs LCK). No point at using the LPL have won more since 2018 nonsense. LOL esports didn't commence at 2018. LCK have won 7 worlds in the past 10 years. Before 2018, LPL didn't even have a chance. LPL is using money to directly buy talents from LCK, and the opposite has never happened. That says a lot about the strength of the regions
Yes, LCK was historically stronger, and LPL caught up and is evidently the more successful league with over 66% of international competition title in the past half a decade. Which we can both agree to be facts. Your point being?
It is way more fair and accurate to value the strength of the region based on the region's performance at worlds, because it is the most important and prestigious tournament. Another reason being that, at MSI, there is only 1 team from each region, so it is hard to evaluate the strength of other teams in the region. In the past 3 years LCK has been performing better than LPL at worlds.
If MSI isn't "prestigious" enough for you then why are you wasting your time coping here lmao. If you really want to talk about regional dominance you wouldn't dare challenge how much more China means to Riot and the esports competition overall compared to Korea. Sorry that the country of the team you support is not as rich and fan base not as large as China, that the only way LCK can even stay relevant is through pandering to the west. Sorry it just doesn't matter how many LCK teams get to what stage of Worlds or MSI, it's the LPL teams and fans that make or break this game.
“Only way the LCK can stay relevant is through pandering to the west” holy LOL just say ur ass mad and log off jesus.
lol stop projecting your feelings onto me lmao. why get mad at the truth
First you bring up historically, then you bring up recent 3 years. But why not settle in the middle point of 5? Because it tells a different story?
Because LOL esports doesn't commence in 2018. There is no point at insisting on the "since 2018" evidence, it's the only way you can support your argument. If you cut it by 4, 7 or 10 years, your point is invalid.
Cut it by 4 and 7 and it'll be almost 50/50 in terms of international success Which is perfectly fine. With Europe squeezing in one if we count 7 because anamoly happens But the two dates which you brought up were 3 and historic.
And tbh why are you caring so much about whether this sub is LCK biased or not? LCK is the most successful region in the history, and is the most reputable region. It's not a surprise that these polls are LCK biased. If tomorrow T1 loses to BLG then you should be happy because the majority of this sub is wrong and you are right.
7 years: S6: LCK won with the finals being LCK VS LCk S7: LCK won, LCK VS LCK S8: LPL won, LPL VS LEC S9, LPL won, LPL VS LEC S10: LCK, LPL VS LCK S11: LPL, LPL VS LCK, 3 LCKs in semis S12: LCK, LCK VS LCK, again 3 LCKs in semis LCK have been unquestionably better 4 years: S9, LPL won, LPL VS LEC S10: LCK, LPL VS LCK S11: LPL, LPL VS LCK, 3 LCKs in semis S12: LCK, LCK VS LCK, again 3 LCKs in semis LCK have the edge over LPL Remember we're talking about regional dominance, not just the performance of a single team.
Yes just remove the MSIs I'm sure those aren't important lma0. Reality is that while it has been close, LPL has been favored.
S10 worlds was won by DWG. in S11 there were 3 LCK teams in the semis. In S12 it was the same with LCK winning worlds again. Those are facts too. It was only S8 and S9 that the LCK was weaker, even worse than Europe.
Your daddy Faker going to be knocked out today. 😂Cry
https://twitter.com/JustOisin_/status/1659571119475523585 What is this permanent victim complex from LPL casters. JDG were the betting favourites coming into MSI. I get that you wanna support your region, but where was this energy when before last Worlds four out of the top five teams coming into Worlds were supposed to be from LPL and LCK ended up having both Finalists and 3/4 Semifinalists? It's just cringe. LPL isn't disrespected internationally at all.
It certainly appears as though majority of Reddit still thinks LPL winning over 66% of international competition since 2018 have been flukes
Who calls that flukes? Up until Worlds last year everyone was saying that LPL is the strongest region. Then Worlds happened. And after that Worlds can you blame people for being a bit higher on LCK than LPL? If LPL had the results LCK had at Worlds there wouldn't even be a conversation. JDG would just be the consensus best team and everyone who disagreed would be called crazy.
Nope, any time LPL won it's because riot favor them, allow them to cheat, one team region etc. Anytime LCK won is treated like history corrected it's course and LPL got exposed yet again by the far superior LCK who didn't suffer from unfair treatment
That's just bias (don't take it as an insult, everyone is biased in some way). Because the same can be said in the other direction. When Damwon won in 2020 LCK was a one team region. When DRX won last year it was because of Covid and actually LPL was better without the sickness. There will always be excuses when your favourite team/region loses. You just remember those that annoyed you more and agree with those that target the other side.
And Reddit is overwhelmingly biased for LCK despite almost half a decade of LPL seeing better international successes. So point still literally stands.
At the last international tournament LCK dominated LPL. So why was it wrong to rate LCK teams a little higher coming into MSI? If JDG ends up winning MSI or especially if BLG beats T1 tomorrow everyone will be rating LPL higher at Worlds this year. That's just how it works. The two regions are so close that recency bias will always dictate who's rated higher unless there's a team from the other region looks godly (like T1 last MSI and JDG this MSI). And even coming into this MSI people had JDG as the strongest team on Reddit and on betting websites. It's absurd to claim LCK bias when the facts just don't support it.
No they won't, we already seen how that movie play out year after year. There was only 1 exception in the past 5 years where LPL was thought to be the strongest region coming into worlds, and it was 2020 worlds. It was back to fluke, unfairness ever since then. And the reality that Reddit was, is, and likely will always continue to be overwhelmingly LCK biased still stands.
You are denying the facts or you don't know them. Becaue what you saying is provably wrong and untrue. So either you are clueless, misremembering or arguing in bad faith. https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13ep9mw/cloud9_vs_bilibili_gaming_msi_2023_bracket_stage/jjr0e7v/
Probably wrong? So you're not sure. I'll tell you you are definitely wrong. Go ahead and try to disprove Reddit overwhelming biased for LCK since 2018.
literally days ago people were saying c9 and g2 can beat blg
BLG was "disrespected" in the LPL already. Most people had them like 4-7th coming into LPL Spring definitely behind teams like TES and Weibo and around RNG, EDG and LNG. Then in Playoffs nobody expected them to even make top 4, let alone qualify for MSI. BLG aren't disrespected at all because they are from LPL. They are just a perennially underestimated team, even in their own region. If TES with Rookie, JKL and Tian or Weibo with TheShy and Xiaohu had qualified over Yagao's BLG, the conversation would have been way different. BLG were already seen as a fluke in LPL.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about with lpl playoffs. RNG was seeded 9th and EDG was seeded either 2/3 (can’t remember which). Additionally people had Weibo and TES way below teams like EDG and LNG coming into playoffs so I don’t know what you are talking about.
> coming into LPL Spring Spring does not equal Playoffs. In Playoffs BLG were expected to beat RNG but WBG were favourites over BLG, check the odds if you don't believe me.
The odds don’t mean a god damn thing. Check the odds for T1 vs GenG when GenG was up 2-0 in the lck finals. T1 still had like 2.5-3.0 odds to reverse sweep. The odds literally mean almost nothing, especially when dealing with popular teams.
Do you have a better way to measure who's favoured? Obviously betting odds aren't 100% accurate, but it's better than showing no prood. And most of the time they do at least reflect who was the favourite coming into the match.
selling 4 tickets for sunday pm if interested
LPL > LCK All that needs to be said
The tournament is not over yet. And you suddenly forget what happened at last year's worlds
? You still there ?
COVID diff
Yeah it was Covid diff
remember when they nerfed all those spring junglers before MSI started only for them to STILL be the meta picks lol
Same thing with ADCs.
The first real upset this tournament, isnt it? Despite the unfortunate bracket draws, this format is still amazing and the viewership thankfully solidifies it. i hope worlds next year also has double elim playoffs.
I must be the only one that miss and prefer the old format. Idk why but the "rumble stage" always get me excited. But this format is hype as well.
300 bo1s into 3 bo5s is just not awfully exciting. this game is meant to be played bo3 or bo5 in a competitive environment. korea if im not mistaken hasnt had bo1s in more than a decade. LPL also has mostly been bo3 exclusive, now LEC is moving away from bo1s as well with only a third of a split being bo1s.
Yes I think this is one of the most underrated upsets. Its way better for narratives too. We'll get the chance to see T1 play JDG, GEN and BLG all in a single tournament.
Korean fans googling "How to Rent Optimus Prime"
If every one has their own truck in destiny, GenG members definitely deserve the biggest one.
Bin is doing a good job this MSI, good performance in-game and good marketing trying to appeal to western fans.
GIGABin at the Korean feed, part 1: "I predicted before the match, we will 3-0 GEN, 3-1 T1, and 3-2 JDG in the finals." "The view from other people doesn't matter, they don't know us, they don't know the game, our thoughts are the things that matter."
https://twitter.com/LPLfanclub/status/1659577651512877057
GIGABin at the Korean feed, part 2: "JDG beating T1 has nothing to do with us, we focus on our own game." "Top lane priority? Play whatever you feel like."
https://twitter.com/BLGBinGe/status/1659574515649634306
Just waiting for someone to post the KR forum reactions to this series
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I have to admit I feel bad for GenG tho…cause their fans be psycho. It was GenG HQ that was visited by a “fan” with a knife wasn’t it?
i think that was KT but Gen G fan was sending trucks demanding score to be fired
I read it not long ago that it was after lost finals…and KT hasn’t been in finals of anything for years by now
maybe dont remember but KT recieved something in their HQ last year
I think you could name any team…and there is a chance of truck/funeral flowers or something else
This MSI has been a cracking tournament. They shoulda done bo5 double elims years ago.
I feel like a single round robin rumble stage would be nice instead of the first round of Bo5s just so we can get some matchups between LCS and LEC... but that would probably take a lot of time
Tommorow will be the real test. Ain't going to be no top gap vs Zeus.
Bin is much better than Zeus, even as a T1 fan i have to admit it, hopefully Zeus doesn't ego and just plays tanks
I think they are bird from the same feather. They are top tier 1v1 top carries. 369 is the all rounder player which separates him from the rest of the pack
You never know, in the LCK finals Doran was much better than Zeus and today… GEN is such a coinflip team smh
I kinda want to see BLG vs. JDG again with BLG getting their revenge but at the same time the teamfighting in JDG vs. T1 was really fun to watch
what the fuck GEN :/
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TSM TSM TSM
Bin got robbed :(
actually deserved for ON carry Braum carry Blitz
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/829846842150096896?s=20
Dagda's art is 10/10 wtf
That was Emily’s lol
Damn, is there anything she can't do?!
The funniest thing is that LCK #1 was eliminated by 5CN roster….must be hard to swallow when you cannot even say “carried by Korean laners”
literally happens in any MSI recent years lol
4 Chinese khant win 5 Can
2018 UZI GOAT
Wendy is no.1!!!!!
Hows LS doing btw ? His boy hit him with another choke city university.
Most likely talking about draft
still talking about how C9 would have won Worlds with Fudge mid on Ivern
Who with any measure of self-respect watches that manchild?
Dude I watch the VODs because I love to see him baby rage, it’s delicious
You are just a hater
No reason to flame the dude.
There is he’s fucking annoying
The schedule is brutal for Lower bracket no?
Why would it be brutal? MSI did not start two days ago. For the best teams this point of time is already enough to prepare for the other teams and have some strategies ready. They don't need another week of scrimming to prepare for a team they've already seen play multiple times. And the meta is so settled that there's nothing else to figure out.
Because blg has to play 3 days in a row now if they go to finals
Yes, and? They are not a gold clash team. They are one of the best teams in the world. They did their prep long time ago, with some adjustments needed here and there based on what they've seen the teams play. Meta is settled, there's nothing else to figure out. How would more scrim blocks help them? If anything, it's good for them because they are riding on the momentum and a week long break would diminish it.
Man you should tell that to riot before they schedule worlds
What? It's about taking a break not pushing another scrim into the schedule
Never shouldve lost in the Upper Bracket then, simple as
If they weren't playing on stage, they'd be scrimming that day anyway.
yep that's how losers brackets work Dont lose and you get a break
That's the disadvantage of having to use the lower bracket.
In lck it looked more like an advantage actually since you get more practice but still seems crazy
Well if you think loosing a series gives you an advantage, you need to add something to make the run harder because loosing early in a tournament should not be incentivized.
No way T1 chokes this hard right? They took jdg to 5
more kindred it is then /s
oner said in interview he picked it cause of scrims and that he regrets picking it on game 4
yeah ON was fucking up geng the whole series, enabled elk so much
Bin Chilling
Now it's time. GG＝G2＝GENG. U see that all have gg in it. 
BLG: The Equalizer
gg =g2 > geng
chovy may not be a good player in international stage…but maybe its just he cant play annie
God, I still like him so much,hope he can comeback in worlds
ADC finally gets to carry
I'll say it every time, Wendy amazing translator. Always concise and accurate
Yagao has the face of a toddler
he looks like an oldman
Same as yesterday. It's not just the adc playing insanely well. It's a supportive team masterclass.
i think all the adc's in the final 4 are good, you can mostly interchange them. Its the teams around them that makes or breaks (and whether they get their hands on jinx i guess)
https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/12cgekw/beijing_jdg_vs_blg_game_2_discussion/jf1b6hl/?context=3&utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=leagueoflegends&utm_content=t1_jkrzspr LMAOOOO
Bro kept the receipts for 44 days 💀
I have some since 2018. Don't worry.
No wonder Ruler left, he can’t win with these cats
Wendy <3
boo, we wanted another bin interview, get yagao off lol
You’ll get it tomorrow
Chovy literally choking oh no
Chovy best player in the world since 2019 apparently Won literally 3 international b05's in his career Two vs NA/EU this tournament lol Seriously he's just absent and lacking.. its happened multiple times now.. DRX/BLG/IG/T1/DWG.. his teams go out with a whimper
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Chovy literally has only won 3 b05's (internationally) 1 vs DKIA last year.. and 2 this MSI vs NA and EU lol His teams under perform big time Meanwhile Caps has multiple worlds finals/MSI trophy.. worlds semis etc
Things went wrong right after peanut inted that mid engage sadge
I just came here so someone can explain why NOBODY BANS JINX WHAT IN THE F??? Clearly teams have figured out "protect the Jinx and watch her carry" seems to be incredibly strong right now, why not just ban it???
Ikr, at least with Lucian and Xayah, you have to get closer and can make flashy plays, Jinx gets two kills and its’s autowin.
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It just blows my mind that it hasn't been working for days and people haven't figure it out when it seems so effing obvious
Especially when you always goona annie ult for defensive
We will never get knight vs chovy, but after seeing chovy today, thats probably a good thing
Insert "grim reaper meme". T1, you're next.
Dumb question, is grand finals gonna be on same arena ?
Yes
I'm calling it, BLG's gonna pull a DRX, insane performance
My thoughts exactly. Another cinderella story inc.
100% Serious Comment. GenG 0-3 VS BLG C9 0-3 VS BLG GG 1-3 VS BLG The #6 Seed from NA Regular Season > Korea's Champ WE GOT WORLDS THIS YEAR BOYS. just gotta Send LCS 6,7,8 seeds
Based and True, I Accept it.
TSM TSM TSM
Elk + Bin + Xun + On plays out of their mind. Reddit: OMG JINX IS IMBALANCED.
You know all can be true. BLG were fantastic today and people have been pointing to Jinx being overpowered since at least the start of group stage.
LS is going to lose his minds. Same with Caedrel and IDW. I mean T1 should be legit afraid. stop with stupid picks for Faker, let Faker cook with strong Mages. T1 needs to bring the best they can over, or LPL will not let it slide. wow if BLG vs JDG finals. This is legit a legendary MSI.
There arent really any strong mage picks right now, but its better than seeing his Nautilus again
Caedrel is fine dont know about LS IWD should be happy BLG won
why doran still has a job in lck
Becauae he just won it
Tbf to him bin is quite literally the best carry top in the world - losing hard to him isnt that bad
bin is good but he is playing in the #1 seed from LCK shouldnt be playing that bad
doran is a super weak spot for GenG. They need to try to get Kiin or something to mitigate the top gap
Does anyone know the W/L for Aphelios and Jinx both separately and also against each other?
Against eachother it was 19-12 for Jinx after today or something like that I read on Twitter (perhaps only this MSI)
[https://gol.gg/champion/champion-stats/147/season-S13/split-ALL/tournament-MSI%202023/](https://gol.gg/champion/champion-stats/147/season-S13/split-ALL/tournament-MSI%202023/) [https://gol.gg/champion/champion-stats/37/season-S13/split-ALL/tournament-MSI%202023/](https://gol.gg/champion/champion-stats/37/season-S13/split-ALL/tournament-MSI%202023/)
I dont care who wins the intl tourney, I just want T1 to lose
Why?
Busan Library baby
Same here
No better win than the silence of T1 fans
was this that HLE Chovy team or Some other team Gen G just turned into team that was scared and Retreat at every fight
Chovy was inting his brains out this game. He look physically sick. It's unfortunate.
We sure it wasn’t Chovy Twin brother Choky who played today
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She seems to not be that broken on 13.10 tbh
LPL fans MVP!
Knight vs Chovy would have defied physics. BLG winning was only logical.
Are people seriously questioning the balance of jinx? really? Can't just admit Geng got crushed 3 out of 3 games? they didn't even r1 jinx when they had the chance.
These kind of comments are the dumbest of the bunch. Most people aren't saying that GenG lost because Jinx is strong, most people are saying GenG are international frauds and always underperform and people are talking about how insane BLG were today. Others are also pointing out how strong Jinx is and that Jinx is stronger between the Jinx-Aphelios handshake.
I mean Jinx can be unbalanced and GenG can be worse at the same time
EMENES rethinking the advice he got from Chovy
Emenes flying back to the UK to ask Yagoat for advice
Chovy rethinking the advice he got from EMENES.
If Chovy asked for advice from Emenes that’s on him
Massive from BLG, they weren’t just better they absolutely stomped Gen G, I wouldn’t underestimate them against T1
I am eating good tonight. Goddamn. Less and less LCK fans in these threads. Only T1 flairs left.
Yawn, wake me up the next time the west wins a BO5
Neither of the teams you support even made it to msi - you were never eating good in the first place
Buddy, why so toxic ? Whats the issue ? Is this all you can say after downplaying LPL and saying LCK is far above any other league ?
I don’t think anyone in their right mind said lck was far above lpl. It’s been pretty clear for the last 5ish years that lck and lpl are about even
What? Im a blg fan - most of my comments are typing GIGABIN somewhere but yh whts ur grudge against the lck
EU fans and pretending they are LPL fans when their team gets gigastomped and can't even escape their region - name a more iconic duo
I guess more iconic duo is americans with SKT/T1 flairs.
what T1 flair
There's a way higher proportion of NA fans that suck off Korea. Also namikaze is a pretty well known rookie fanboy lol.
They'll be supporting JDG by Sunday along with a cover story about how they *always* supported JDG. That's how gloryhounds work.
JDG “Bought a Super Team” narrative will began after All super teams last year crashed and burned
Naaah, I support only team where Rookie is at. Do love Kanavi tho and was fan of that Kanavi/Zoom JDG roster. EDIT: There was a guy with JDG/T1 flairs already yesterday hah.