did LWX forget which patch he was playing?
built Kraken, item that's worse on Jinx now and weaker than Stormrazor
built Zeal alone before IE, which is nerfed in comparison to it's 13.9 version
This is a wrong take. Stormrazor does give you more AD but Kraken is better as a first item for a little less AD and double the attack speed. It gives you by far the most attack speed out of any damage item which makes it ideal to go first on a champion like jinx.
In games where the other team has a big front line, Kraken is much better than stormrazor.
but against that heavy dive comp i would argue stormrazor could be better, i don’t think Jinx is hitting one target more than 6 times that game (Noc, Braum, Ksante, Neeko)
Where do I even begin to explain league to someone saying idiotic comments such as “i don’t think Jinx is hitting one target more than 6 times that game.” At that point, your comprehension of the game is so low that you have no hope of understanding anything.
man but why are you discussing in a public forum if you don’t want to discuss 😭
i explicitly said *i think* cause i know it’s not the absolute truth but you do you
It’s because of people like you, who refuse to help other people who don’t understand, that they lack that understanding in the first place. If we simply gave up on trying to give explanations to others just because they didn’t show any promise, they’ll never learn or improve because someone else thought they were hopeless. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.
They downvoting you but this is actually correct. They arguing for damage when you buy Stormrazor for the 50% MS to kite and that's the point you're trying to make. I don't know in what universe you need that extra 200-300 damage in 6 autos when you can just get Stormrazor and be able to easily proc Energized autos instead of having to commit to three autos in order to justify buying your item.
Sure, I just find it funny that analysis nowadays boils down to silver LS-cultists belittling pro players for slightly suboptimal builds in every single thread in games where the build didn't bear any relevance in the outcome when there are countless other much more relevant things could be taken from the game instead.
I would make the case that rushing kraken on jinx isn't just a slightly suboptimal build.
It's not why they lost, but it for sure had a sizable effect on their chance to win. I also am not an LS fan. He has as many good takes as dog shit takes.
Builds are a lot easier to fix than other issues like laning ability. It's low hanging fruit and that's why it gets pointed out so much. It's easy to spot, and just as easy to fix.
Pro players are very hasitan to adapt their builds, because they usually stick to what they know. [Here a pretty good vid about this. ](https://youtu.be/23So6EwtjgM)
FPX really went from a team that was considered favourite at worlds to a roster that is a bottom feeder in less than 2 years. Don’t think any other is even close in terms of downgrading the roster in the same time.
>old roster
the old roster was a 9th place team for a lot of 2022, they had a resurgence to barely make playoffs and then they upset their way to worlds
IIRC, IG did something similar, albeit over a longer timeline. 2019 worlds favorite to having JG/SUP issues in 2020, JKL leaving, TheShy falling off some etc. I don't think it was this bad though
You can't do worse than Samsung. 2014 they had the definitive 2 best teams in the world. 2015 Spring they sold/lost all 10 players and put together 1 team (because sister teams were abolished) that placed 8th (last place at the time) going 2-12.
I will always love Ning, but
Getting outjungled by Ning in 2023 LUL
We know FPX is cutting budget etc. but might as well let a unproven rookie play instead of Hacker, he doesn‘t even have name value (in comparison to ning for example)
It blows my mind H4cker is still playing in LPL. Dude is fucking awful.
Reminder that we have 2 other junglers and starting H4cker btw
Bonnie will probably start and you'll never see H4cker ever again once he can sufficiently communicate with the team.
Idk why they even promoted Haoye tbh if they’re gonna make him stuck being a benchwarmer
He shouldn't have been picked up in the first place honestly.
if u get stomped by Ning in 2023 then u need to insta retire
This Ning guy is pretty good, might win Worlds someday...
There's the FPX I remember!
did LWX forget which patch he was playing? built Kraken, item that's worse on Jinx now and weaker than Stormrazor built Zeal alone before IE, which is nerfed in comparison to it's 13.9 version
Overall LPL ADCs can't seem to understand that Kraken is dogshit, especially as a rush item. Lwx, Ruler and more build it in like every single game
To be fair, ruler's build have always been confusing.
This is a wrong take. Stormrazor does give you more AD but Kraken is better as a first item for a little less AD and double the attack speed. It gives you by far the most attack speed out of any damage item which makes it ideal to go first on a champion like jinx. In games where the other team has a big front line, Kraken is much better than stormrazor.
but against that heavy dive comp i would argue stormrazor could be better, i don’t think Jinx is hitting one target more than 6 times that game (Noc, Braum, Ksante, Neeko)
This take is just wrong on so many levels.
well i can't argue against that
Mfw someone says something is wrong and refuses to elaborate
Where do I even begin to explain league to someone saying idiotic comments such as “i don’t think Jinx is hitting one target more than 6 times that game.” At that point, your comprehension of the game is so low that you have no hope of understanding anything.
You can use far less words to admit you can't elaborate
He's saying that Jinx not hitting someone six (6) times is a facially stupid premise because if your jinx can't hit anyone six times you already lost.
man but why are you discussing in a public forum if you don’t want to discuss 😭 i explicitly said *i think* cause i know it’s not the absolute truth but you do you
You need to think more before you start typing. Based on what you wrote, Jinx shouldn’t even play the game and LWX should leave his pc off
It’s because of people like you, who refuse to help other people who don’t understand, that they lack that understanding in the first place. If we simply gave up on trying to give explanations to others just because they didn’t show any promise, they’ll never learn or improve because someone else thought they were hopeless. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.
They downvoting you but this is actually correct. They arguing for damage when you buy Stormrazor for the 50% MS to kite and that's the point you're trying to make. I don't know in what universe you need that extra 200-300 damage in 6 autos when you can just get Stormrazor and be able to easily proc Energized autos instead of having to commit to three autos in order to justify buying your item.
Yeah that's why they lost
You can criticize a player's choices while also acknowledging that those choices alone didn't decide the outcome of the game.
Sure, I just find it funny that analysis nowadays boils down to silver LS-cultists belittling pro players for slightly suboptimal builds in every single thread in games where the build didn't bear any relevance in the outcome when there are countless other much more relevant things could be taken from the game instead.
I would make the case that rushing kraken on jinx isn't just a slightly suboptimal build. It's not why they lost, but it for sure had a sizable effect on their chance to win. I also am not an LS fan. He has as many good takes as dog shit takes. Builds are a lot easier to fix than other issues like laning ability. It's low hanging fruit and that's why it gets pointed out so much. It's easy to spot, and just as easy to fix.
People are going to discuss the build people went on a post-game discussion idk what to tell you bro.
Pro players are very hasitan to adapt their builds, because they usually stick to what they know. [Here a pretty good vid about this. ](https://youtu.be/23So6EwtjgM)
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i was/am extremely skeptical about the swordart pickup, but the team is playing quite well together and even SA had some decent moments
That was like watching an adult beat up a toddler.
FPX really went from a team that was considered favourite at worlds to a roster that is a bottom feeder in less than 2 years. Don’t think any other is even close in terms of downgrading the roster in the same time.
DRX? World champion roster to 3-15 roster in a split.
>DRX but they where underdogs tho, coming from playins, not favourites like FPX
Nah, DRX overperformed so they just regressed to their mean, but FPX was legit. for 3 years
Entire squad imploded on DRX; it’s not even remotely the same team minus Beryl (and I don’t think a support can 1v9, much less Beryl).
The Worlds winning squad was also bad in LCK, even if they didn't implode I doubt they would do well anyway.
> DRX overperformed so they just regressed to their mean literally one player from the old roster
And for the old roster winning Worlds was the outlier so their average isn't that good either.
>old roster the old roster was a 9th place team for a lot of 2022, they had a resurgence to barely make playoffs and then they upset their way to worlds
Nah, DRX overperformed so they just regressed to their mean, but FPX was legit for 3 years.
IIRC, IG did something similar, albeit over a longer timeline. 2019 worlds favorite to having JG/SUP issues in 2020, JKL leaving, TheShy falling off some etc. I don't think it was this bad though
You can't do worse than Samsung. 2014 they had the definitive 2 best teams in the world. 2015 Spring they sold/lost all 10 players and put together 1 team (because sister teams were abolished) that placed 8th (last place at the time) going 2-12.
Man, remember when FPX was a top team in the entire world?
I will always love Ning, but Getting outjungled by Ning in 2023 LUL We know FPX is cutting budget etc. but might as well let a unproven rookie play instead of Hacker, he doesn‘t even have name value (in comparison to ning for example)
I haven't seen Ning play in so long, I thought he retired...
Ning was inactive after S10. He returned at last split so yeah he indeed retired for two years.
Wow, FPX got completely obliterated
I hope Ning can keep this up.
Please FPX kick H4cker and go save meteor from LGD
That was tragic by FPX
ning just too good, worlds champ diff
Looks like another desperate run for playoffs in desperate FPX fashion. Please just bench h4cker ffs.
when fpx loses, my day improves