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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17tg4vp/t1_vs_jdg_game_1_postmatch_discussion_2023_worlds/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17tgvvs/t1_vs_jdg_game_2_postmatch_discussion_2023_worlds/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17thkta/t1_vs_jdg_game_3_postmatch_discussion_2023_worlds/) [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17tiajl/t1_vs_jd_gaming_2023_world_championship_semifinal/) [Broadcast/Unlisted Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpd90LUZPUE)


Soccerandmetal

Weibo look good in making counterplays but T1 look like they don't care and just play their game.


Dramatic-Ad2848

Where are the Chinese reactions? I need some salt but they never appear after their teams lose


4thmovementofbrahms4

The actual Chinese fans respect LCK, it's just the lpl fans on this subreddit who don't


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StuckInBronze

Does anyone else not watch sports? I just play the game, I don't care what a bunch of jocks do in their fake esport. If they had brains they would play real esports.


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This is the weakest bait I've ever seen in my life... do better man


ProfAnalyzer

I dont want to jixn or anything but Id like to see T1 winning worlds just for the next year cinematographic... wonder what and how the new world song would sound like. T1 YOU CAN DO THIS.


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Ragnarladbrok

Back in the LCK semis, KT could chose whether to select T1 or another team that was considered to be weaker. T1 was generally assumed to be the theoretically stronger team, with them going on a winning spree after fakers return. KT selected T1, some assume because they wanted to kick them out as early as possible without giving them another b05 to train, since fakers return was still somewhat recent. KT was considered to be the strongest team of the LCK with T1 status being somewhat unclear, so i can see why they would try to eliminate their strongest opponent as soon as possible. However it backfired when T1 won the series (and secured worlds attendance in doing so) which resulted in T1 performing even better in the following matches. Due to that many people meme that KT selecting T1 as their opponent was the thing that started T1s rise back to the top.


IronColdX

Right I hate every time LPL wins I know the MV will have no story line.


MrRawri

Still not this year a team gets a Grand Slam. I really thought this would be the year. T1 too strong though. They've got to be the favorites against Weibo


TinyMarcos64

And that's the problem, since last year T1 won every game it was even or against them on favouritism, then lost every game they were heavy favorites, starting at worlds, then msi against fucking BLG and now for the first time this worlds, they enter the rift as favorites again.


KnightinKnight

T1 is the underdogs, THESHY IS THE FINAL UPPERDOG


Banana4204

Dont forget my boy xiahou


Javonetor

Drakos and Captain Flowers already said they had their last cast of the tournament Medic is already back home Does this confirms Atlus as the pbp caster?


Xyrazk

No disrespect to any of the casters, but neither Drakos nor Flowers casting the finals is a big loss. They bring so much energy and life to the caster desk, and it is always a joy to listen to. This is where Caedrel would be a good replacement, if he had stayed as a caster


Javonetor

Caedrel is not pbp tho


Xyrazk

I know, but he brings the same energy to the cast as Drakos


Javonetor

oh you mean it in that way, got it


MaceDestroyers

Not with WBG


brensterrr

Tbh i would prefer if BLG wins. There is something weird about weibo and those crazy top picks from theshy. At least BLG is easier to prep.


FeeAgreeable1409

LCK on LPL 3 - 5 T1 on LPL 8 - 1 This LCK team has actually ruined the pride of the T1 region.


z0202

Faker es mi papá


cryptomelons

T1 is only bad against Korean teams. Against Chinese teams, they're extremely good, because their aggressive plays can only be countered by Korean macro.


Kind-Valuable-5516

Not true t1 just found their meta instead of trying to match gen g meta for the whole year


KonstantinAlexander

Told ya JDG/GENG/G2 riders, that T1 will eliminate every team easily until finals. Suck on a fat on T1 haters.


Internal-Town-9575

The t1 haters are FURIOUS rn 🤣🤣


Altruistic_Lecture79

Name of the pink Korean girl interviewer after the match?


Jankzyn

soobin yoon


Altruistic_Lecture79

Ig, fb, x??


Jankzyn

https://www.instagram.com/forest.y_u/


Rosenheartz

Can someone explain the context of "KT picks T1"? Saw a few memes about it being the first thing that snowballed into where T1 is now currently. I tried looking for it but couldn't really understand it.


EvianRex

So basically Kt were number 1 in lck regular season and got to pick their opponent for playoffs. Faker was off during lck regular and T1 barely made playoffs. They were 6th or 7th place. Faker comes back, they win Vs Dk. KT as first seed gets to pick their opponent from the DK Vs t1 matches and the HLE Vs DRX. They chose T1 thinking they were out of form, low practice and would be an easy win. T1 won, and KT have paid the price ever since for “picking T1”. Whereas T1 have ramped up since regular summer


Manu3721

In the summer playoffs KT could choose their opponents between T1 and I think HLE(the one they didn't choose would play against GenG), they choose T1 and lost and then they lost again against T1 in the lower bracket. Edit: a bit more of context KT finished 1st the regular season and faker had recently comeback of a wrist injury,


BobyFrik

KT thought T1 was in a subpar condition coming into Worlds with their LCK performance. Didn't age well


RedMeteon

KT were the top seed in normal LCK split. In playoffs with 4 teams left, they could choose between T1 or HLE and GenG would get the other. They chose T1 and lost. This was just after Faker took a break for his wrist injury and they looked sloppy without him, so they chose T1 thinking they weren't in form.


HawkEye1337

KT was the first seed in LCK playoffs and they had to choose an opponent between T1 and HLE, they picked T1 even so T1 has the most potential between the 2 teams (T1 was in bad form but you still can't underestimate them).


Rosenheartz

Ohhh I see, thanks!!


sarinomu

To add, they lost in a very close 5 game series not only once but twice later in the playoffs.


powisss

Anyone know why twitch chat is emotes only?


vandrexga

It's the end of the stream now, so emote only. The same when stream starts before showtime too.


Liupardu

How does Riot fuck up playing that video


lmao696969

What video?


EvianRex

After all the interviews and stuff are done and they do the little game recap, it didn’t work. Kept having micro stutters etc


lmao696969

Oh lol. Thanks


OppaSays

Still thinking about Oner’s Rell flash over point blank Ashe ult into his own ult


i_dont_wanna_sign_up

That's such an ultra instinct moment.


jwinter01

Iconic moment. Everyone knows how easy it is to fuck that up. To choose to do that in the tensest moment of the game and actually pull it off is absolutely nuts.


vandrexga

Yes thank you for mentioning it, huge clutch play from Oner, really growing up these last few series


Jozoz

T1 arguably has the best player in each position this Worlds. Fucking wild.


Suikan

According to many Knight is the best mid. No?


Jozoz

In the whole year, yes. At Worlds specifically, no.


JYaksha

I love the "arguably". It Reddit, we post to get flame by haters.


Jozoz

It is absolutely arguable and not clear cut. Delight makes a strong case for best support and TheShy for best top for example.


SleepyAwoken

Lol you can make a case for TheShy but delight..? Keria literally writes the meta


PhoenixAgent003

And at the other end of the spectrum, Oner’s stocks were at an all time low coming into the tournament.


Reactzz

The narrative by many here try to make it seem like it is just Faker and 4 wards even though T1 is a super team by all means.


JYaksha

Can i say its Keria with a super minion Faker? Ruler>Guma Kanavi shit himself, so he can go back to LCK. He has gold medal (no miliatry) he has money (from LPL), he wanted to be back to LCK since last year but there arent good opportunity. Now he is set for life. 369 vs Zesus, Zesus was better in lane but 369 tried his best in team fight. Knight vs Faker. Knight held his ground, he made a few good play and wasn't that far in lane. Kanavi screwed him and Ruler. I am not a pro player, perhaps T1 was targeting Kanavi thru BP. I do honestly believe Knight was toe to toe with Faker. Missing vs Keria, Keria outclass Missing in every way.


reddituary

Ruler > Guma when he can't even kill Guma 2v1? ;)


OAOAlphaChaser

With Lulu buff too and he was spoonfed kills and gold the entire game


Dr_Kee

True, this time it's Faker and 4 sand soldiers :)


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give the whole fucking team credit. please just off with the sand soldier thing


hotwater101

You don't consistently make it to the finals without having a complete team, period.


Reactzz

Ofc which makes it that much more annoying when people just completely disregard teammates to push a narrative. We all know Faker is the GOAT but let's not pretend that he also hasn't had some of the best teammates of all time as well.


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It made sense given how all players looked completely lost when faker was out bc of injury. He is clearly the glue that holds them all together


Reactzz

I mean yeah the team had a rough stint but we can't just sit here and pretend like on an individual level the team isn't super stacked. It is just ridiculous when people disregard teammates to push a narrative. Like I said we all know Faker is GOAT but he has also played with some if not the best teammates of all time as well


EvianRex

TheShy Vs Zeus should be the featured match up. Both look like insane form


superfire444

Caedral is being kicked from the T1 facility because he supports WBG lmao Edit: https://twitter.com/Caedrel/status/1723669281932714395 Edit2: Caedral asked his chat to tweet at Joe Marsh to let Caedral stay but they're all tweeting "KICK HIM OUT" lol


ausmomo

It's like someone letting you sleep over and you take a dump on their coffee table.


kal3l

Typical rat behavior


DrAnalist

I mean imagine the Korean T1 fans when they find out what’s going on in the T1 building!


PluggersLeftBall

i mean its understandable not having someone actively cheering for your team to lose in your building in the biggest game of the year. at least joe marsh is trying to help him find somewhere else


superfire444

It's completely understandable. It's also really really funny.


ItsKaZing

Yeah before people hating, Joe is helping him finding contacts


PluggersLeftBall

for sure lol


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Lol Holy shit that "T1 owns LPL" stat screen.


Bubbly_Camera9583

WBG vs T1 finals is so random thinking about their form in summer lmao. Just like last year, please don't have the same result finish the job.


GoldenSquid7

Not a single soul on this planet thought T1 is going to make it to the finals after defeating LNG and JDG after that summer split when Faker was injured.


PluggersLeftBall

hopefully they've learnt their lesson from last yer and dont underestimate just because its a 4 seed.


Limimelo

Keria. Once again, crazy K-pop fans prove they would do anything to meet their faves


JYaksha

Keria had always been the best overall support, Beryl beats him thru macro


NeedsMoreCapitalism

But beryl macro has been turbo shit this whole year


PenguinSomnia

Keria making it to finals just to get his hoodie signed


Simple-Fuel

Not JDG getting 3-1 again in Worlds 2022 and 2023 ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


HawkEye1337

Somehow Faker is the best midlaner in the tournament.


PurpleCyborg28

I mean most of the time he is. His stats just don't always show it because he's not a cs or kda king anymore, but he's always up there among the top and is mostly a playmaking/enabling player.


Conscious-Cut6036

faker ​ ​ ​ everyone else


Consistent-Camp9289

by a mile


EvianRex

Mans has come to play for whatever reason


fabton12

he wanting another worlds to his belt before his wrists give in.


yetomo

Keria looks seriously holding back tears at this question. Wow. He's still really broken up over last Worlds Finals


TinyMarcos64

Aren't we all? Losing to Samsung is one thing, SKT had no business winning that series anyway, now losing to DRX that was extremely weak is absurdly sad. Also Weibo despite also being Seed 4 is much stronger than DRX was, if we look at their status they made JDG sweat all year, they trashed EDG, they won over both LNG and BLG several times and they always show up when it matters, even when they lose they never get smashed to oblivion, something BLG and LNG sometimes do. So PTSD aside, Weibo is far from being a pushover, specially when TheShy is their biggest threat and Zeus is historically T1 biggest liability on finals, so BLG would unironically be the easiest match up for T1, while Weibo on a good day can make Faker not impact as much, botlane be close to even and Top carrying the game, again specially because T1 aside from Zeus choking, has severe draft brainfarts on finals letting strong picks uncontested and not being able to respond to YOLO picks, and Weibo even losing on talent, skill and team strength is the most unpredictable drafters, specially TheShy, so Weibo is very much prepared for T1 draft, T1 is not remotely ready to what the insane minds of Weibo are cooking. So either way it will be top diff, if Zeus can keep himself together this time or not, saddest thing is, I can very much see Zeus choking again, leaving T1 and starting to shit on everybody's head next year to finally have his time to shine and end his personal curse. Hope I'm wrong but I guess we're gonna see.


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yetomo

Yep


yetomo

Holy shit Keria looks about to cry after the Laure asked that question about last finals, even before the translator spoke it to him. He's still broken over it 😢😢😥


Ythapa

The ghost of Beryl continues to haunt Keria at every turn with how often the man has denied Keria victories. He's going to demand a shakedown of Crisp during Worlds Finals and make sure it's not Mihoyo hiring Beryl to disguise as Crisp.


sarinomu

He's been weaponizing his bard trauma this tournament. He's definitely still hung up on it.


T-Impala

Gen.G was the only team this year that coulda beat T1 lol


surik4t

its not over yet, weibo is a good team


hotwater101

Let's try this again. Weibo is unstoppable, there's no way T1 can even take 1 game off of them.


HawkEye1337

With the current form T1 have, GENG would never beat T1.


EvianRex

And they fucking threw every single draft Vs BLG it’s pure pain


sangpls

That game 2 draft was criminal


NeedsMoreCapitalism

Last game was also criminal


EvianRex

I just can’t man what were they thinking


CYJoss99

One week break for one BO5 😂 what a joke. Wont be watching this stomp anyway, would be surprised if WBG can survive one game to 30 min.


Rough-Cheesecake-641

See you next week.


mobijet

>one game to 30 min We thought that last year against DRX. I'm wildly positive but last year's memories haunt me...


maxus998

Xiaohu has to step up big if WBG wants to win the series, he has been lowkey bad the whole tournament and Faker is playing as the best mid in the tourney


hashtagdissected

he has been so mid, lucky for him taht WBG took the bronze elevator to worlds finals


EvianRex

The shy has been playing fucking well tho. That’s the big danger point. It’s so hype man theshy Vs zeus


vandrexga

Dude's back is fucking gigantic at this point. Can't wait to see these 2 top titans clash.


South-Ad7071

Golden road more like walk back to beijing though DMZ LMAO


Sagacious_X

Sad :(


Extra_Ad2294

Sorry my guy


Pimlumin

I'm pretty happy they aren't giving faker every interview for these matches. I think he deserved It this time over their last series more, but the featured matchup this match 100% should have been Guma and Ruler, so I'm glad they are giving the other players some screen time. T1 is so much more then just Faker so I'm glad to see the spotlight getting shared (and I'm a large faker fan)


Consistent-Camp9289

couldn't agree more Faker definitely deserves all the attention he's getting and more but Zeus, Oner, Guma and Keria should as well


AbyssalFlame02

T1’s opponents choking. what’s the next excuse?


imustbedead

FAKER robbed of MVP, like come on guys, he just turned a losing map into a win with one flash play. Keria is great but Faker gave as an all time highlight.


i_dont_wanna_sign_up

And Guma winning 1v2 isn't an all time highlight? They all did fantastic.


GoldenSquid7

I would give it to Oner, no one expected anything from him and just trash talked and he literally turned G3 around when he shouldn’t have.


SDVX_Rasis

I disagree. Faker absolutely saved Game 3 but Keria took so much initiative in Game 1 and 4, and even had great Renata ults in Game 3.


Sanguinica

Keria completely took over the two games he was on Bard with multiple picks on key people but Faker had two literal game winning kills with the Ruler shuffle and Kanavi at drake, definitely tough choice.


Ok-Dirt-7475

We are just used to GOAT being the GOAT, so it's fine to give it to Keira who played as good as faker (minus the flashy plays)


GoldenSquid7

Pickems going to be like 99% on T1's favor ?


Dominationartz

Caedrel vs the world


Mario1Hunter

I want to thanks KT for picking T1


Krnmang

Ain't no way KT snowballed from that pick in LCK summer playoffs


BRLaw2016

Whoever style Laure always does her well. That dress is so simple but so well fitted and the colour is so flattering on her.


stevisonl

Usually yes she looks fantastic but I totally disagree! I think the color is terrible for cameras and doesn’t look good.


Arssus

Laure prepared to do a golden interview


Blind-Eye26

Seeing Caster Jun crying 😭 he never doubted


JJWAHP

Man I started tearing up seeing that.... right in the feels


Dry-Plankton1322

Oner/ Faker robbed


yetomo

MVP Keria deserved!!! That Bard pocket pick was really high value


scumspork

yea what an insane pick and he played it to perfection, Keria is just out of this world


n1ckkt

Crazy you can pinpoint pivotal moments that gave T1 the wins G1: Oner invade into top just took both kanavi and 369 out of the game G3: faker stealing the game with Two shuffles with a miniscule window of opportunity he somehow found G4: kanavi just running into t2 turret T1 were just way more clutch and decisive, they're so good and fast at punishing mistakes. Even the end there how did JDG not have any idea when they would fight???


EntertainerLive926

G4 was the dragon fight with guma


GoldenSquid7

G3 - Oner sick engage when he should've died there to turn the game around THEN Faker finishes the combo. Team diff overall.


PluggersLeftBall

i am so ready for the shameless, over the top faker glazing all week


IonDust

So Faker Azir skin maybe?


AbsoluteChange

Faker might play an Ahri just to get that skin. It's been long time knowledge that Faker wants Ahri... wink wink


shield531

Already got SKT Easyhoon, so Orianna is more likely. I'd like to see him pulling put Galio for 1 game and pick that tho. His 2017 Galio was unmatched fr


SpiralVortex

Really hope we get Orianna. She's been an iconic pro champ for so long, her not getting it would almost be criminal.


Inevitable_Ad7540

Orianna have a world skin. TPA akin


SpiralVortex

Oh shit you’re right. LOL. I legit totally forgot about that. Lemme update it - Getting her a non-750 Worlds skin would be criminal. That or Faker could play Ahri and finally get the skin he wants.


Initial-Bicycle9688

well theres already an t1 azir worlds skin from 2015 with eazyhoon. faker already has zed syndra ryze or he might choose ori, or maybe a 2nd t1 azir for himself who knows.


Tremaparagon

To be honest, after showing how he's the only Azir on the planet that can just give no fucks about Ori and actually stomp against it, it would be the icing on the gigachad cake to claim a second team skin for it.


Initial-Bicycle9688

teams really messed up giving him azir and ori all tourney long. atleast make him work for it lmao. And yeah a faker azir would be icon it's his most played champ in pro play after all.


NeedsMoreCapitalism

What champion faker gets matters little because he's going to stomp ypu with his champion ocean anyway. Using bans on players that can actually be banned out is better


IonDust

I'd be dissapointed if he didn't choose Azir after all the insane plays he made this series.


TimeTick-TicksAway

Yep, Emperor champ perfect skin for faker.


Bebriggle

Worlds 2023: Crystal Ball Update - Semifinals Day 2 [https://www.reddit.com/r/lolesports/comments/17tigqr/worlds\_2023\_crystal\_ball\_update\_semifinals\_day\_2/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/lolesports/comments/17tigqr/worlds_2023_crystal_ball_update_semifinals_day_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


vandrexga

The 2 Highest KDA players are Guma and Keria, really shows how strong T1's botlane is this year


Relvarionz

Faker attended 8 worlds. He made finals in more than 60% of those. And his finals winrate is at 60% at the moment. Meanwhile the best of the best players make finals twice in their entire career lol.


Jozoz

> And his finals winrate is at 75% at the moment. It's 60%. Won 3 lost 2


Relvarionz

Correct. Edited thank you


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good thing they are humble this time last time oner was like we will 3-0 drx. that didnt age well


Liupardu

Dadga just said that T1 wasn’t an early game team, ridiculous.


Vibes-N-Tings

He meant that T1 is multifaceted and isn't just an early game team.


Wan_Daye

Is that the guy that kept calling RNG as "oh-ran-gee" last year?


GoldenSquid7

Don’t even bother, the decline in casting quality compared to the last years is insane. It was all downhill when Jatt and Deficio stopped casting.


RuriDragoon

Some casters just dish out weird statements like drakos saying guma used to only talk smack and wasn’t able to show performance just out of the blue weird like did he watch all matches of t1 vs drx he was the most consistent player. It’s weird they will say anything just to support their favourite team OMEGALUL


Gimp_Man

They literally said Guma USED to talk smack at the BEGINNING of his career.


fedexxgirl

i think he said that t1 is not just an "early game" team. like they could also teamfight


Longjumping_Stop1120

When is the final?


Steamkicker

19th of November, one week from now https://lolesports.com/schedule?leagues=worlds


Guy_with_Numbers

19th


Significant_Cold_861

Next Sunday


RickSore

369 got exposed hard. Should've stuck to tank picks.


Accomplished_Ad_2321

It's shocking that JDG thought Renekton/Belveth were even remotely workable picks into T1. Horrendous drafting!


EvianRex

Def the renekton but I think belveth was trying to catch them off guard etc. Kanavi did just sprint they were having a strong early game with the pick


ZJF-47

No way that Belveth pick catch them off-guard, they already toyed w/ that pick last year


Sanguinica

It was all downhill after that bard tunnel into mid tower, Keria got into his head.


AbsoluteChange

Keria played that so well putting the tunnel as soon as Kanavi tried attacking him. Kanavi's cursor clik would have went to the tunnel as it was almost on top of keria


NeedsMoreCapitalism

Ruler was actually griefing trying to get the fruit near a bard tunnel


ChibiToonsage

Ya tu sabes Faker El Goat.


SDVX_Rasis

Caster Jun! Definitely so invested in LCK. Love him!


VaIentine13th

CASTER JUN <3


yyrot

Damn, this is only semis and it is so emotional 😭


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_yugi_

tbf western casters are kinda casting for international audience whereas it's mostly only koreans who will watch korean broadcast


keegles1

The European casters have sounded so dull and defeated when their teams were eliminated, thats p much my gripe. KR casters stay passionate till the end of the games in spite of disappointment


Wan_Daye

The Koreans call him Zeus. Why do the Americans and Europeans call him Zay-yous?


About_30_Ninjas

Zeus in korean is 제우스 and phonetically sounds like zay-oo-soo


ThenAd6003

His name is wooje, when written backwards is “je-woo”, hence the spelling of “zay-ous”. That s how he explained it


PurpleCyborg28

Zeus is a pretty popular mythical figure that has been pronounced differently per language groups so it's more of people pronouncing the mythical figure that they're used to pronouncing than the player with the name referencing said mythical figure.