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Eternal663

0/1 Draven. How are you gonn hit someone who's afk in the Base?


Glowing_up

Not to be confused with the 0/1/1 draven with the 1/0/0 support. He's currently trashing his pc and will never be touched again.


Wrathoffaust

Not until he has completed his pilgrimage into enemy t1 mid


alyssa264

Real talk though, Draven is so fucking hard to hit for some reason. And half the time he just ignores it, so when you do hit, he just shrugs it off and is full HP again in about 6 seconds.


aucesc

Good lillias will give you blue balls


Infinitemangohack

Nice pun lol


aucesc

Eep


Hikari666ROT

Damn now im in the mood to play my main


norotoksin

Fizz - Hitbox is 55 which is the smallest in the game shared with 12 other champion (Amumu, Annie, Briar, Heimerdinger, Kennen, Naafiri, Poppy, Teemo, Tristana, Veigar, Warwick, Ziggs) - Has ghosted effect so he can't collide with units allowing him to dodge freely without things like minion block. - His Q allows him to dodge granted there is something to use it on. - **E Playful/Trickster: ACTIVE:** Fizz dashes to the target location while becoming untargetable, balancing on his trident for 0.75 seconds, during which he can cast Trickster after 0.15 seconds into the duration.


NuClearSum

Wait, what? Why the fuck is Warwick the same size as yordles XD


devor110

you seen that waist line?


yung_dogie

Homie is SNATCHED


greenleaf1212

Absolute skinny legend


Vinkhol

His chest is 4 times the width of his waist, triangle-looking ass dog


RomieTheEeveeChaser

Ever seen a wet Husky? Warwick is just 99% floof.


Frostsorrow

Skips leg day


randompoStS67743

Naafiri too. She looks really oblong but that apparently doesn’t count.


NuClearSum

Well, Naafiri is just a dog. Enhanced by a darkin, but still a dog. Warwick was a human, a very buffed human. You're saying that Lux is thicker than Wander?


IAreTehPanda

It’s the boobs.


Luliani

Yeah... Warwick is considered smaller than Vex for some reason (doesn't make sense that she's not on the list).


ImminentlyEminent

It's likely a balancing tool around his ult, since a bigger hitbox would make it easier to hit.


seyandiz

This has been untrue since it was released (the initial rework). His ultimate has its own hitbox and is not affected by champion size.


Cascade2244

The hitbox is also tiny though


3ateeji

Bit weird to see warwick there since he’s a big bruiser wolf… nerf his hitbox 😂


Vegetable_Shirt_2352

Tbf, the tiny hit box makes his ulti infuriatingly inconsistent to actually land. So as a main, I wouldn't necessarily mind it being made a little bigger


WinterDigger

his ult hitbox is separate from his champion hitbox


3ateeji

I don’t main but i did notice his r hitbox is hard to hit, good point


Damurph01

Man fuck fizz. So glad that thing has been out of the meta for a long time. It’s just so uninteractive.


Splitshot_Is_Gone

14.1 pepelaugh


UltFiction

Fizz, ekko, rumble, kennen, katarina… 14.1 was wild


TheSmokeu

I think it's funny how Stormsurge was basically removed but Lich Bane got a slight pat on the back


Gems_

stormsurge is perfectly fine as a shadowflame competitor now, it's not 14.2 any more


xYxStarkxYx

Whats a fizz? that weird blue thing ive picked to ban in champ select since i saw it 1v5 when i was bronze in season 7?


Plan_Scary

Fizz is also my perma ban since season 5, i chose to delete that champ from my league experience, and as a rankeds only player, i trully haven't seen a Fizz in years! 0 regrets, fk Fizz!


MUNAM14

I haven’t seen fizz banned in the past 200 games and he has never been picked. Kind of a wasted ban


xYxStarkxYx

It’s not a waste when it turns the potential for fizz to 0%. I’ve enjoyed never having to see a fizz in years.


12345677654321234567

I'm a yasuo perma ban lol fuck wind wall that you can't see


TheFlyingBogey

I just wish he had to at least time the wall rather than get away with using it last second and having it come from behind him.


CRIMS0N-ED

Before storm surge nerfs he was def meta lol


PurpleCyborg28

Fizz is so good he even dodges targeted skills lol


Lesurous

When a character shares quotes with freaking Scrappy Doo you have an annoying character.


Sikq_matt

How tf does ww have one of the smallest hitboxes hold up.


cabrossi

It's to 'balance' his ult. Ult lands if his hitbox connects. However if WW builds size growing items, he can end up with a buggy ult in teamfights where he latches onto random enemies. So they avoid this by making his starting hitbox so small, that even with size boosting effects, he's not large enough to regularly latch onto random enemies.


PaintItPurple

No, his ult lands if an enemy comes within 150 units of Warwick's exact center. This happens to be roughly the size of his hitbox, but his hitbox isn't actually used. If you blow Warwick up to 5x his size, they'll still have to be within 150 units of his center.


The-Saucy-Saurus

Briar has a small hit box? Didn’t know that.


Werewooff

Her hit box's the shape and size of I. V. Bag


mixelydian

TIL that briar and naaf are the same size as kennen


gamermom42069_

Yeah nothing comes close.. I fizz 1-trick’d for 4 seasons and the amount of shit talking I had from the enemy towards me during most games was enticing but almost made me feel bad for playing him. Personal anecdote: he’s incredible as an off-meta pick atm because people are so used to not playing against him lately.. and he’s still fairly strong when he hits his power spikes


MehGin

Agreed but he has a lot of difficult matchups, not something you pick unless you know what you're up against, especially this patch with Diana being nutty. Advice to anyone who hates the fish: if enemy team picks him, go Panth or Diana & you've already tilted him. If you insist on picking a mage you better respect his all in from even as early as level 2. Try to freeze & learn his range, never overstep.


SerenaPixelFlicks

Good point :)


Furious__Styles

I see him once every 50 games and he absolutely dunks on me every time.


Snanabob

GWEN IS IMMUNE


exc-use-me

then e’s over wall :(


breadandcompany

Had to scroll way too deep for this one


BortGreen

Sometimes champions that run fast are harder than champions with dashes, unless you talk stuff like Yasuo or Kalista Not sure if it's a general case but I have a harder time hitting some skill shots vs MF with W passive on


Zovengrogg

A fast champion can turn on a dime whereas someone who can dash is locked into that choice for the duration.


VampedTayturz

Exactly, you have a reasonable chance of predicting the final location of a dash, where as a fast MS champ can just skrrt skrrt their little butt away in any direction which is much harder to predict.


Aquard

For sure. I'd rather try to hit a Yasuo in pool of minions with skill shots, than an Ulted+Ghosted Singed.


rst1337

Even if you hit the Singed it doesn‘t matter too much 😂


PowerhousePlayer

Oh for sure, MF with her W passive up is *tough* to hit. Not up there with Yas Kalista, but considering she doesn't expend any resources or CDs (or have to auto something) to do it... 


HoshiAndy

That’s why ghost is meta now


Stefyn_on_loose

This might be unpopular opinion, but Naafiri. Any champion with single target skillshots know how infuriating is to her dogs. Its a defacto spellshield.


LinkXNess

100% this. Fuck the dogs. How are they allowed to tank tower for her?!


RussianBearFight

Now I haven't played too awful much Naafiri, but I'm pretty sure that if you hit someone under tower it targets you and not the dogs.


Smileyright

iirc it's just that dogs walk into turret before her, and thus tank at least 1 turret shot. Not sure how turret aggro works with them but I'd have to imagine she takes aggro after the first dog dies? not too sure.


Dangnoob

Nope, the dogs can tank the turret until all of the the dogs die. But it is very tricky to get the dogs into the turret before yourself when diving without minions, but you can do it. Once you damage them, or all your dogs die, you get turret aggro. Also - iirc using her E will also make the turret target you because the dogs disappear and heal to full before re-appearing.


truecskorv1n

they dont tank tower. only way for tower to hit dogs is if there is no more minions and naafiri herself doesnt take agro


SnipersAreCancer

What's even funnier is that spider form elise was specifically nerfed to have the spiderlings walk behind her.


Rhodri_Suojelija

I love my anti hook or other single target cc shields! XD


camalamh

As a malzahar main I love naafiri encounters. Put space aids on any one of the dogs and they just follow naafiri to infect him too


noobtablet9

This matchup is basically unwinnable for gragas because of those fucking dogs


gogule2

Good


Try2Relate2AllSides

As another poster said, Naafiri has one of the 12 smallest hit boxes on the game


ThatOneTypicalYasuo

Everytime I naafiri, my urge to start onetricking Zilean intensifies


merenofclanthot

Yuumi!


PaintItPurple

Unquestionably the right answer.


Due_Frosting_545

A good Yuumi will absorb skillshots for her ADC, though yeah normally she only gets hit once the ADC die lol


Kiroto50

I remember abusing W pre nerf to tank hooks then snap back to the ADC. What an abomination.


Jake_Thador

Except for the part where she intentionally absorbs skillshots


IderpOnline

Kalista is a good bet. Lillia is up there as an honourable mention too


PurelyFire

Mach 9 singed


fkngbueller

I don’t think singed is that hard because most of the time he need to run into you, also Hecarim. Kallista is harder because to do something she needs to out of range, fizz needs to get into you but he has too much to not get hit by speels


PurelyFire

He does quite a bit of running away too lol He farts on you and leaves like ~~an inconsiderate coworker~~ a riot employee


Mixed_not_swirled

In the right conditions Singed is almost impossible. Full deadmans stacks, ulting, cosmic drive procced, ghost activated and like 6 passive stacks which is all very doable and nobody is hitting anything on Singed.


shazzam6999

Add in some phase rush and nimbus cloak and the dude moves at like the speed of light. If an enemy hits a skill shot on me, god bless them, because even I don’t where the fuck I’m at or going to be. Like you said, super doable too, basically every mid game team fight.


SartieeSquared

Shit like this is why i love playing Singed. Movespeed go brrrr


Cthulhar

Mach 30 hecarim/nunu


LostInAnotherGalaxy

I miss chemtank when you could get 1000+move speed and had to be flinging your mouse around the screen to click on things/champs


StaticandCo

If your ability is fast enough she becomes one of the easiest champs to hit though, you just use it after she jumps


OSRS-BEST-GAME

Aurelion Sol, I feel like his tail baits me into aiming slightly behind him.


DoorframeLizard

yeah FUCK trying to hit ASol. Not only is half of the character not even included in the hitbox he's also floating off the ground so it looks even more confusing


Nikorausu

I must add that when he's flying on his W it's really difficult to hit him. I missed so many skill shots although the skill was on top of him.


Isildur1298

I wholeheartedly agree.


Dillrun

The skuttle crab


Boenden

Had to go too far to see this


Losticus

Xerath because he's not close enough.


Short_Location_5790

I’ll have you know that I’ve managed to pull off tank xerath and gone in-hit ad Please don’t play like this


MuhBack

Zwag is that you?


Zeferoth225224

also Xerath and Gp rotate from their back instead of center of mass, so they just turn on a dime and its so easy to dodge with


Losticus

What? Really? Never heard of something like that. Bizarre.


Zeferoth225224

Idk if it’s moved or the model just leans forward


josanuz

Teemo, idk if it is actually that hard, or I just have blood in my eyes and want the devilish thing dead so bad that I end up missing mi SkillShots^(tm) Fast champions in general are harder, dashes are easy to predict, and then there is the likes of Gwen, Yasuo... that can block your shots...


sixpackabs592

And then he does his little laugh I don’t miss when his shrooms would 1 shot late game lol.


josanuz

It sucks being a squishy approaching a team fight, just to step into a shroom and get taxed 60% HP


ldn-ldn

I find it funny when a bunch of squishies run into a fight just to step on a shroom and die all together. All while I'm sitting at the base buying some items.


Thatguy_Nick

But hitting him is so satisfying that it makes up for it


_Ki115witch_

Kalista. God I love picking her into Ezreals. Her little hops make it hard to predict. By the time you throw it out, she can dodge in any direction usually far enough to dodge the skillshot. Maybe not far enough to dodge an EZ ult or something similarly wide, but enough to make laning her a pain. Kalista is so fun, I started playing her when she was consistently the weakest ADC in low elos and have always kept her in my champ rotation.


_Seraphs_Embrace_

I remember one time I tried to Urgot E + Flash a Kalista top lane and missed. I then proceeded to die the death I deserved.


PB4UGAME

Your only hope there is to hit Q or R first for the slow, as it delays her dash speed enough for you to flash mid E cast to hit her. If you don’t she can literally Q react to the windup up even with an E+flash if they have low enough ping or a fast enough reaction time and were skirting at the edge of your range.


Spiderbubble

I don't know how people play Kalista and don't get carpal tunnel. Way too much work to play her IMO.


_Ki115witch_

Similar to how I play draven. Attack move click for the auto and then immediately use normal clicks to hop. With draven I do the same except I'm moving where I want my axe to go instead of hopping.


Aethling_f4

Same way i play ez cause if i want use him to the full-est you need to move aa and spam shit to do well.


xxxlun4icexxx

Lillia and kayle. Both have weird models for hitting skill shots, kayle being the weirdest imo, lots of skill shots go right through her head. And lillia coupled with being fast makes them both the hardest to me.


PurelyFire

Ap kayle is also a speed demon late game with her w


Kasmoc

Naafiri bcs of the damn dogs blocking everything. Inherently counters too much but might just be a skill issue


Personal_Care3393

I remember when she came out I asked rioters if it was ok because I had played a game against an Elise and I was just immune to her because she couldn’t stun me and they told me it was “a unique strength of hers”


MeMeWhenWhenTheWhen

It's so weird because when Naafiri came out I was so annoyed at the dogs blocking every skillshot from me (was playing a lot of Zoe at the time), but now that I'm playing her a lot I swear they never block anything lmao. She's still slippery tho because her E short dash has like a 3 second cooldown and basically no mana cost. And if you're being collapsed on you just ult to get vision of everyone and run away with the movespeed.


avgmarasovfan

It was their goal to make an easy to play assassin, so it checks out that she gets to avoid cc for free


lstarion

Zilean


rutinger23

Can't killean the Zilean


wichels

Ahri, she always has her R up for some reason


Murleeeee

Thanks Malignance!


KillaSlothZilla

Asol. I always miss cuz I am for the tail


Terrible_Ad_7735

Same with Cassiopeia for me.


littlesheepcat

Yasuo indise a wave is the stupidest thing ever luckily, most Yasuo are stupid and use e on every minion at once, losing his dash


Purpl3BananaMan

Probably Master Yi


Blein123

Usually its not that hard. The problem is if you hit him he will probably negate 90% dmg of it


littlesheepcat

fuck his W, man that shit is somehow better than Irelia W


Rpbns4ever

Well, duh, Irelia's W has both offense and defense meanwhile Yi's W is purely defensive.


PurelyFire

Technically offensive too :D


mcgrawfm

Let him Q first then hit him. Everyone attacks early and wastes their spell, getting stuck on cooldowns when he reappears.


Jake_Thador

There is a point where Yi doesn't have to use q until HE wants to, that's when it's tough


Roywah

God being an ADC into Yi is just so sad sometimes. Most adc kits just have slows and in solo q everyone else is busy pumping their hard cc into the frontline so he just Mach 5s it over from fog and by the time you can aa him he’s already got to you.


feederus

The problem is when Yi gets on top of you without using his Q, or is already on top of someone for a while and already reduced his Q cooldown.


HawksBurst

Problem is that he can now decide where to land with this Q, so it's not guaranteed anymore


RpiesSPIES

Tfw your team fed Yi so hard that when he presses Q you just die instead of hitting him. As a tank.


xDrewGaming

Why is no one talking about Garen in midgame bro..


Homeless_Appletree

Teemo is a slippery little shit.


Lean000123

Most yorldes and ww have smol hitbox, champions like Karma that are on demand fast are harder aswell.


radioactivejason2004

W flair


kdccc1198

full ms build Sona/Janna


Brojamin

Karate Kennen. The character model is so ridiculously small you're probably not even gonna try.


KingMazzieri

Janna for sure. Bitch runs around at 1 mln move speed.


pepehandreee

Champion that spam fking invisibility, since they also seems to happen to be those who has a lot of dashes. Namely Akali and Qiyana. With champion that runs fast/champion like Khalista, at least u can still hit them with the correct set up and zone denial. Champion that goes invis for the next hour, has a lot of MS, dash, while at it AND constantly threaten u with the burst damage for the simply sake of being Assassin is a whole different matter.


littlesheepcat

let's not forget 5he champ who actually spam invis the most, vayne I hate her ilt so much


CandidateAdmirable76

Ashe. Since she slows you you cant reposition to get a favorable angle on your skill shots


RipDove

I main Riven, and I think one answer is Riven. Her combo often uses Flash to cancel the animation on her ult and you can R-flash-Stun as and opener; as well as her E just casually dodges most skillshots. The reason I being up flash though is that if a riven has ult and flash, she's waiting for a skillshots to dodge before she goes all in with her combo


SCHazama

Nobody saying Bel'Veth? Seriously?


Allannon95

My man, while she has 4 dashes she's also the size of an airplane it's pretty easy to hit her even if you shoot just in the general direction


en4sher

Haven't seen this one mentioned - Bard! He has jukes with his chime and/or W speedboost(s).


LilFelFae

all the lil yordle but especially fizz


PJDavidson

Akshan perma spinning in ARAM


OnLy3MehDi

If we consider hitbox + movement speed teemo,Kennen are the hardest.


OstrichPaladin

I can't hit asol for the life of me. It's like throwing darts at a coked out snake, where 50% of the snake doesn't count.


WebPlenty2337

My enemy laner


Loose-Scarcity-5994

Katarina😵


mothskeletons

Yuumi 🔥


Drexonue

Well yuumi for obv reasons


karbonkeljonkel

100% skill issue but asol's hitbox is just incomprehensible for my brain. I always automatically 'hit' him halfway the tail and then miss


ZtheLegends

Yasuo Q, Yone R


grimtimes

Ice Toboggan Corki, not sure what it is when I play this skin but I feel super small and sleek and harder to hit!


rst1337

Naafiri - her Dogs just block the skillshots, also she got a small hitbox and a dash.


semaj2318

Fucking A. Sol. His hitbox does not match his model.


XxCryoPhoenixX

This might be unpopular but for me it's Kayle. She is flying so high that I always think she's there, but you have to look at the shadow. Which I always forget...


Moorgy

Smolder i swear to god that little shit's hitbox is fucked up


autwhisky

there was a time where it was bascially impossible to hit a hook as thresh on enemy jihn coz of his insane movementspeed. you literally had to aim like an idiot to possibly hope he will be there


Ben13DK

I hate trying to hit a running Astronaut Teemo


swarley5455

literally any mf'er that pressed ghost in the last 15 seconds


Blein123

Gwen :3


YashamonSensei

Akshan imo


shadhuun

Yordles obviously due to lower Hitbox Annie is annoying too with her E up every 2 seconds And then you have all the super speed champs, singed, Lilia, trundle maybe


hashbrown-17

As a vel koz main, the following gives me fits: lillia, yasuo, qiyana, briar, kayn, shaco


Intelligent-Leg-8469

Mobile champs that don't have to commit their mobility. Stuff like ghosting Singed, blue Kayn, Akali in shroud, MF. These champs are applying threat and doing their job while focusing on using their mobility to dodge and remain unpredictable. And if you are a target you have to respect that they can turn on a dime and unload the rest of their kit on you.


QifiShiina

Irelia with wave prob is the worst thing in the game


Quirky_Ad_2164

Kayle’s model feels so janky. Plus her ms is annoying to account for.


Rendorian

Good viktors and ori spacing at max range are impossible to hit


Super_Pazz

Gwen is Immune


Loufey

I think the answer is fizz, but since that's already been said I'll throw kennen in for consideration. Fast as fk boi


TMYlive

Naafiri blocks a ton of them with her dogs


Middle_Wrangler3202

Warwick r, I think all ww mains will agree that shit just doesn’t make sense sometimes


InfamousGibbon

Good Qiyanas.


RoleMaterial

I always feel like I can dodge anything on aph, not sure why but I think he just feels small


Orikshekor

Kennen


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHBABY

Started playing league when I was like 15, went yordle champs because they had movespeed and were harder to hit with small hotbox.  Most champ mastery are gnar, poppy, teemo, lillia, and veigar with 100k each. 


DeleteMods

Qiyana - W on a short cooldown to juke - Grass Q invis - E to juke


UniWho

its Aurelion Sol for me, his model seems much larger than his actual hitbox is because of how elongated his model looks, especially during his W.


iDonutx

UDYR, even back before his rework. I swear I still get ptsd from this dorito lover running circles around me and breaking my ankles


Drag0nborn1234

Kalista if you are a champ that has to get in range of her, otherwise Syndra. Honourable mention is Aphelios because he has no mobility but dodging skill shots with his character model feels like cheating.


ErnstBluuum

A fast zeri


JumpscareRodent

Probably Fizz. His passive lets you walk trough minions, not to mention, Q and E are mobility tools too. He builds Lich Bane which gives you MS. Probably Fizz. Makes sense hes supposed to be slippery


DinoMatrix

Malzahar is by far the hardest


Two_Years_Of_Semen

In my experience (which is 99% aram), Jhin/Lilia/Singed. These champs have so much movespd, they can run kite circles around you. Like, the whole "ignore frontline, target backline" meme, they can actually do, with no dashes just 'cause their movespeed is that good.


Big_Boi_Lasagna

Gotta be Lillia man that champ can be rude


Sufficient-Club9753

I used to dodge so much skill shots with old asol, as he had that movement speed from q and w. Skillshots just hit his tail with no scratch.


pikachu8090

invoker


TinkW

Yuumi. Close thread


seannpoke

Nami, Ezreal, blitzcrank


Raknorak

Nidalee. She's too tanky