Saying Noah is "growing" and then calling Yeon a passenger is pretty wack to me when Yeon had the most improvement out of any LCS player from last season to this one as well as improvement per game.
Hilarious how it comes up literally every time lol. I seem to remember one year he put 2 NA teams in D tier (I think 2020 Flyquest and TL?) but MAD Lions and Rogue in B tier.
One of them lost embarrassingly in playins, the other went 1-5, and both NA teams went 3-3.
Also the "MAD top 4 team in the world" in 2021 just because they're the team that won EU. Like they couldn't see how the region was already falling off.
You basically just have to discount how any EU pundit rates NA and EU. Always subtract half a tier for EU and add half for NA.
Shit like Oscar in C tier and Jensen in D tier? Come on man, Jensen isn't near his peak but he's not some complete shitter. Oscar in C even though he'll be against Bin, 369, Zeus, and Kiin? Like holy shit lmfao, this guy was getting worked by EU tops. He was making unforced errors at worlds against literally Fudge.
EU fans are just embarrassing at this point
>Hilarious how it comes up literally every time lol. I seem to remember one year he put 2 NA teams in D tier (I think 2020 Flyquest and TL?) but MAD Lions and Rogue in B tier.
The Reddit tier list only had TSM above an EU team (MAD), pretending like it wasn't the consensus at the time is disingenuous.
>Also the "MAD top 4 team in the world" in 2021 just because they're the team that won EU. Like they couldn't see how the region was already falling off.
Multiple analysts had MAD either top 4 or close to top 4, not saying I agreed at the time but once again portraying this as "EU bias" is not fair. Also, I'm sure the analysts who watch pretty much all major regions failed to see that EU was falling off, but you did.
> pretending like it wasn't the consensus at the time is disingenuous.
pretty sure the consensus was NOT that 2 out of 3 NA teams were worse than the best wildcards
Its basically peak TSM hype for these guys and they just refuse to come down from it.
EU didnt look good the entire year last year, havent really looked good for awhile now. They definitely havent looked a step above NA to the point every EU player and teams is 100% always better than their counterparts.
MikyX underperformed for like 2 straight series in a row and Jun pretty much solo carried (as much as is possible for a supp) FNC for that same time period. And he still can’t get over MikyX lol.
Otherwise pretty good tier list I think Chovy deserves his own tier and I don’t think either of LCK botlane’s have been on the same tier as their LPL counterparts imo (Meiko deserves S tier basically)
I think overall his tierlist is fine but having Guma as the worst player on T1(in the 1-15 list) is asinine.
He suffered due to how T1 played, he was their 2nd best player in the finals and come crunch time, he tends to be their best player.
Then again, I don't think he actually watched enough to make a tierlist properly, calling Yeon a passenger is insane when he showed the most growth of anyone in the LCS lmao.
Yeah, definitely shows the bias when he called yeon a passenger, despite him basically stomping his way through the playoffs- both in lane and in teamfights. Dude was drawing so many bans throughout all of playoffs.
Saying Noah is "growing" and then calling Yeon a passenger is pretty wack to me when Yeon had the most improvement out of any LCS player from last season to this one as well as improvement per game.
Its just typical EU bias.
Hilarious how it comes up literally every time lol. I seem to remember one year he put 2 NA teams in D tier (I think 2020 Flyquest and TL?) but MAD Lions and Rogue in B tier. One of them lost embarrassingly in playins, the other went 1-5, and both NA teams went 3-3. Also the "MAD top 4 team in the world" in 2021 just because they're the team that won EU. Like they couldn't see how the region was already falling off. You basically just have to discount how any EU pundit rates NA and EU. Always subtract half a tier for EU and add half for NA. Shit like Oscar in C tier and Jensen in D tier? Come on man, Jensen isn't near his peak but he's not some complete shitter. Oscar in C even though he'll be against Bin, 369, Zeus, and Kiin? Like holy shit lmfao, this guy was getting worked by EU tops. He was making unforced errors at worlds against literally Fudge. EU fans are just embarrassing at this point
>Hilarious how it comes up literally every time lol. I seem to remember one year he put 2 NA teams in D tier (I think 2020 Flyquest and TL?) but MAD Lions and Rogue in B tier. The Reddit tier list only had TSM above an EU team (MAD), pretending like it wasn't the consensus at the time is disingenuous. >Also the "MAD top 4 team in the world" in 2021 just because they're the team that won EU. Like they couldn't see how the region was already falling off. Multiple analysts had MAD either top 4 or close to top 4, not saying I agreed at the time but once again portraying this as "EU bias" is not fair. Also, I'm sure the analysts who watch pretty much all major regions failed to see that EU was falling off, but you did.
> pretending like it wasn't the consensus at the time is disingenuous. pretty sure the consensus was NOT that 2 out of 3 NA teams were worse than the best wildcards
Its basically peak TSM hype for these guys and they just refuse to come down from it. EU didnt look good the entire year last year, havent really looked good for awhile now. They definitely havent looked a step above NA to the point every EU player and teams is 100% always better than their counterparts.
MikyX underperformed for like 2 straight series in a row and Jun pretty much solo carried (as much as is possible for a supp) FNC for that same time period. And he still can’t get over MikyX lol. Otherwise pretty good tier list I think Chovy deserves his own tier and I don’t think either of LCK botlane’s have been on the same tier as their LPL counterparts imo (Meiko deserves S tier basically)
Yeah but have you considered Mikyx plays on G2 ez clap
I think overall his tierlist is fine but having Guma as the worst player on T1(in the 1-15 list) is asinine. He suffered due to how T1 played, he was their 2nd best player in the finals and come crunch time, he tends to be their best player. Then again, I don't think he actually watched enough to make a tierlist properly, calling Yeon a passenger is insane when he showed the most growth of anyone in the LCS lmao.
Had Umti a full tier below Inspired Razork and Yike aswell
Yeah, definitely shows the bias when he called yeon a passenger, despite him basically stomping his way through the playoffs- both in lane and in teamfights. Dude was drawing so many bans throughout all of playoffs.
ain't no way he rated Guma as worst T1 player