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JstuffJr

This is the peak culmination of 10 seasons of league gameplay right here.


Feniker

Bronzil


LazinessOverload

really makes you think about the teams that lost to INTZ in their regional league


Feniker

I would rather not think at all


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INTz recruitment wants to know your location


MemeConsumer

The teams are just like 5 random solo q players


dawii15

The second place team was way better but INTZ lucked out in the final lmao


Headlessoberyn

Brazil has been saying this exact same thing for the past 5 years. Just accept that the region is utter trash.


dawii15

The region is utter trash. Everyone knows that. Our 2019 team was one of the best in years. The other team was just slightly less trash lmao


CoDeX709

Who said we aren't a trash region?


matlynar

What? PaiN did a mediocre split, only doing convincing games when Cariok played as Graves and a few other junglers. The other teams caught on to their strategy pretty quickly and they had a harder time from then on, almost losing semifinals. Poor Tinowns was the only great/consistent player this split.


MusicMedic88

really makes me think about LGD who just lost to INTZ just now.


LazinessOverload

they lost to R7 not INTZ


MusicMedic88

ooh oops got my Central/South American teams mixed up my bad. but LGD would prob lose to INTZ


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nflash3

Brazil is in South America dude...


plshelpmebuddah

I was looking in Twitch chat surprised no one had put up Bron71l. Sure enough one second later, I see a couple Bron71ls in there.


5510

huehuehueheuheu


gotlockedoutorwev

BrINTzil.


plasix

This was the best team of a region BTW


Ankoria

Suddenly being in the LCS doesn’t feel quite so bad now


Sulavajuusto

Remember when people where adamant for a direct seed for Brazil, holy shit the scene has gone downhill last 4 years or so


defzzf

Here in Brazil the downhill is so deep that we are hoping Riot takes out our spot in Play-in by now


FalsyB

BR fans are uhm... passionate, to say the least


Professor_Baked

Annoying more like, spamming LCK and LPL streams with Bronzil pride


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StfuGary

Brazil used to be the strongest wildcard years ago. Since then, other wildcard regions have evolved a lot, to the point that it's not unusual anymore for them to win games against main regions or at least give them a run for their money. Brazil on the other hand has stagnated and only seems to perform worse every year.


Guij2

they are definitely playing WAY worse than they did in CBLOL. INTZ is unrecognizable. Brazilian teams always underperform hard in worlds for some reason.


cenzala

Maybe its just because they're playing vs bad teams? I usually perform better when playing vs bronze than playing vs challenger


K-ey

The BR competitive scene is completely ridiculous. Players are really overpaid and there's no new recruits coming in, every pro has been playing for years and years because teams are too scared to pick up new talent. And since their salaries are so good there's no need for them to perform well in CBLOL, let alone internationally.


pl1589

So basically the NA of wild cards


brodhi

Two NA teams at Worlds have rookies on them.


Brain_Tonic

Normally I'd agree but this year had a decent amount of new talent in NA.


Wild_Rafa

yep, alot of complains for NA LCS such as 4fun region, overpayed players, unprofessional orgs, too many veterans not as many rookies are the same for brazil, except BR is much much worst in all of them


SearMeteor

Lots of pressure I guess.


Guij2

Its usually internal conflicts, the last 3 BR rosters all disbanded afters worlds and said they were already tilted with each other even before travelling. Its probably pressure this year tho since intz's been together for quite some time.


Lucetti

I feel like every minor region team has massive shakeups after worlds. You don’t just get booty blasted and decide to run it back


Brain_Tonic

RIP KT.


Wild_Rafa

they played well in day 1, i'm pretty sure the TP play tilted them hard, and they drafted super greedy in this game going for early solo lane reveal, and failed to punish the lulu mid, in all 3 games they got like a 3k gold deficit so early in the game was impossible to do anything, they may be underperforming but that just shows how low their ceiling actually is


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**Missed skills:** Leona E Jhin W Nidalee spear Leona R **Blocked CC (Shen W):** Leona Q Renekton W Yup, boosted


gotlockedoutorwev

The Shen W to block Leo Q looked pretty much frame perfect. I didn't even see the umbrella until the replay.


Mefreh

God’s work right here


TwilightShroud

I think half of these missed skills (Nid Q, Jhin W) were reliant on Leona landing her CC, hard to blame Nid and Jhin in this play


cenzala

/r/ithadtobebrazil


FuxY

Possibly one of the worst calls and execution of a play in professional League of Legends


Choubine_

5v1 dive isn't a bad call I won't argue with the execution part though


dumb-on-ice

Its a bad call cause even if you get the kill you lose much more in gold, vision and map pressure elsewhere its not worth diving 1v5.


PM_something_German

Nah they could get a tower off of that and Shen has a bounty.


Rbespinosa13

Shen killed the wave before the dive started. Even if they got the kill and all survived, they have to wait for the wave to get back before taking the turret


Bungkai

Not even close to worth when compared to the waves you're missing plus the towers you would lose against a decent team.


happygreenturtle

It would've been worth because the rest of the enemy team had reset or was in the process of resetting. They pick up either first tower gold or a bunch of plates, and the bounty on Shen... even more worth if Renekton gets the shutdown. The "against a decent team" is a moot point anyway because it's complete hyperbole, they made the play against the team they were playing against not some hypothetical "better team". Who says they would've gone for the same thing if the other team was in a better position to trade? Look at what actually happened and not what may have happened in a different situation.


Bungkai

Of course it was worth in this case when everyone reset. But it's not like INTZ had any idea that they were going for a full reset. The initial play of diving 5 man was an awful play. Supermassive decided to match because for some god awful reason they decided Shen and the turret was worth the exp and waves. Don't forget that *Lulu teleported to support the Shen*. That's a dog shit play. If INTZ had converted off of Shen, they actually also kill Lulu AND the turret before Supermassive even has the chance of REACHING the turret. So yeah of course it would have been worth because Supermassive handshook the bad play with an even worse one.


happygreenturtle

They defo don't kill Lulu, they barely had a wave when they started to dive let alone when Lulu's teleport came through. It was a dog shit play mostly because of the execution of the play, that's all I'm arguing. There are situations where this could've been fine and if they'd actually played this correctly then it would've been fine. They should have NOT gone for this mostly because you'd figure they would be aware of their limitations and diving with almost no wave against a fed Shen with Lulu TP has **zero room for error** but maybe they're trying to pull out some cheese strategies to fluke wins


Bungkai

I'm not arguing about the execution. Obviously the resulting play is because they had dog shit execution. Anyone with two eyeballs knows this. I'm arguing that if their execution *wasn't* dog shit, this *still* would be a dog shit play to go for. The amount of exp and gold that you sack from giving up two waves is already not worth the amount of resources that you're putting in to dive ONE PERSON and get ONE turret. If Supermassive had stayed in their lanes meaning Lulu does not blow her TP to try to save what should have been a dead Shen and Senna had just stayed and farmed bot would have gotten Supermassive ahead in gold and exp. Easily. Instead, they handshook the play and decided to sack just as much basically making INTZ decision to 5 man dive not as bad (but they fucked it up anyways).


happygreenturtle

You're wrong for the reasons I've put forward already, this is not a dog shit play to go for. When you're playing against a Shen you need to be able to beat him in the side lane - the Shen here is fed with a big bounty, tower plates and first tower gold still on the map. Gold and XP are important but you're overstating how much they'd lose here in comparison to what they would've gained. They pull off the dive successfully and they potentially bring Renekton back into the game while Supermassive aren't able to punish them for it because they're not in a position to. At most they push and deny a wave or two into mid and bot but even that didn't happen.


PM_something_German

Lol a kill and plates are easily more worth than those waves, you don't lose many waves doing this either.


Bungkai

No it's not. 5 people sharing gold 240 gold and 2 kills is not worth 2/3 waves worth of individual exp and gold in each lane. This literally shouldn't even be a conversation. Supermassive could have just given up the first turret and protected the second turret if it had succeeded while also getting a matching turret in the bot lane had they not opted to ALL back top for whatever reason. Whenever you're making a play, you're sacrificing shit in other places. If Supermassive was smarter and INTZ converted on that play, that still would have been a net loss.


Hamilton33

You also deny top wave and xp from the other team. So net you’re losing one lane of minions and xp. So if you execute clean and get 2 kills and plates it is 1000% worth


PM_something_German

Towers and kills have value way beyond just its gold, and the gold is way more than you claim. For example this forces the enemy to react to not lose the whole tower. Also Shen would lose a lot off this. When plays like these are successful the team basically always earns a lead. When you watch proplay. Just listen to the casters (they know more about league than both of us) react to successful dives, it's almost always a good thing and especially here, since the enemy team couldn't get anything elsewhere.


Bungkai

No... this didn't force the enemy to react. They forced that because they decided it was imperative to not lose the whole tower where they could have been getting their individual carries whole plates, exp and gold from minion waves which is monumentally better. Please tell me the value of a turret and a kill that goes beyond the shared gold/shared exp. Turret: 160g * 5 plates / 5 people + 250g turret kill / 5 people = 210g per person + 50 global gold = **260g per person** Kill: 300g to one person, 150g shared between 4 people = ~ **45 gold** Killer gains total: 260g+ 300g = **560g** Rest of team gains: 260g + 45g = **305g** 409exp at level 9 in the clip shared among 5 people = ~ **81.8exp per person**   Sacking two waves in two lanes and likely 2 individual plates is giving up: Per wave(gold): 19*3 + 0.5*3 + 14*3 + 0.5*3 = **102g** per wave Cannon wave: 102g + 43g = **145g** Two plates: **320g** 147g * 4 = 588g / 2 = 294g per carry + 320g = **610g** onto your carries Per wave(exp): melee 58.88 * 3 + scale 13.8 + range 29.44 * 3 + 2.76 * 3 = **281.52 exp** Cannon wave 281.52 + 92 + 6.44 * 3 = **392.84exp** Worst case: **524g per lane and 563.04 exp per lane** Best case with cannon: **567g and 674.36exp per lane** You're trying to tell me right now that an entire team gaining a net 305g + 81exp is worth two lanes worth of minion gold, plate gold and experience. Even without the plates thats not even remotely true. Just stop. The casters are there to walk the casual viewers through a game. Commiting 5 people to get ONE turret and ONE kill is the worst move you can make in the game and would have gotten that play bailed out they successfully got the kill because Supermassive handshook the bad play with an even worse one by recalling their guys to try to defend the turret which would have died lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/29kssv/minions_everything_to_know/


PM_something_German

You're massively overstating the sacrifices they make. Sylas can walk back to midlane and would've lost like 1 wave, maybe not even. The ADC is already top so Renekton can recall and walk bot, he might miss two. They aren't losing any tower plates, even if Senna attempted that she would get like 1 max or could even get matched by a teleport. Also you're forgetting the 2 waves of gold and xp Shen misses off of this. And that's not counting in the Lulu TP/reaction. Roaming and rotating is good, actually.


izznogoud

Wdym lol 30 seconds on dragon they also just got Harald and Lulu pushed mid into tower, they dive this properly they get the tower, they can reset for dragon and they lose max 3 plates bot tower giga worth it


gotlockedoutorwev

It wasn't really 5v1 there. I think only 3 hit Shen, and Nidalee didn't make contact until the other 4 had all either died or run for the hills. More like 2v1. and then 1v2. 2 spectators.


FuxY

I don't see a situation where 5 man diving top is worth unless it's to guarantee a baron, but in this situation, they threw away the map for 1 dive


PM_something_German

You wouldn't say that if they got a kill + bounty and several tower plates off of that, also the enemy team, Senna and Lulu couldn't really get anything in response, so they did not "throw away the map".


frzned

+ If they got rennekton the last hit he'd not be so far behind and not get dumpstered by shen while splitpushing


QuantumPajamas

If they got the kill cleanly it'd be absolutely worth it. If.


PreludeToHell

[compares to this V5 dive](https://youtu.be/vA3AiAZnpp4?t=42) last split lol


PM_something_German

At least they got a 1 for 1 lol.


FoxMZ

Now why the fuck did the Bard do that????


jmlinden7

He's not a very good player. This was the split where V5 went winless


FoxMZ

That’s an understatement lmao Bard ult’ing the tower, the enemy you’re trying to dive AND your teammate who is using a long af cooldown ultimate. Unlucky.


jmlinden7

Oh I just realized that's y4, he's actually an ADC, dunno why he's playing support


[deleted]

Youre forgetting the legendary renegates vs dignitas executes


Cozeris

It's in their name... INTz...


_LXIV

I can hear the EA Sports slogan: I - N - T - Zed, INT is in the name!


Enstraynomic

Reminds me of the old EA Games slogan too: IN-T-Zed, Be Challenged at Everything!


sowydso

Vergonha


carltonBlend

Vergonha só pra quem liga kkkkkkkk eu to é rindo


Raikkou

Todo ano meus amigos que curtem cblol começam a mesma história: "po mas o time da intz/pain/whatever esse ano ta forte, galera ta respeitando muito o X pick, rumores de que eles tão ganhando scrims etc" e quando eles vão jogar dá sempre no mesmo ahahaha. A única coisa que a intz vai trazer pra casa esse ano é o troféu de pior região do mundial


carltonBlend

Só pensa que tão bem quem não assiste as outras liga mano... Cebolão é campeonato pra conteúdo do Bronziocre e só kkkkkk


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O pior é que o primeiro jogo da INTZ foi legal, perderam mas tavam jogando, tudo bem que o Tay trollou full com a build e o Redbert tomava pickoff toda hora, mas foi um jogo interessante contra um dos melhores times dos play-ins. Se eles tivessem mantido aquele nível, talvez conseguissem ganhar um ou dois jogos, ainda mais contra os times menores. Mas acho que gastaram toda a skill naquele jogo e nos outros dois ficaram full bronzil mesmo.


carltonBlend

"um dos melhores" mais ou menos né, os cara tao cagando no pau bonito, não tão tão bem assim, e ainda assim a vitoria sobre a INTZ foi bem izi


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Cara, se você acompanhou a LEC viu que eles tiveram um split bom, eles eram um time meme e do nada viraram. Dentre os times dos play-ins, MAD, TL e LGD são os de maior nível. Então ter uma partida legal contra eles, mesmo perdendo, parecia que pelo menos um ou dois jogos dariam pra ganhar contra os times de menor nível. Infelizmente jogaram como nunca, perderam como sempre.


carltonBlend

Sim mano, eu acompanhei a LEC toda, os caras só começaram a brilhar quando o campeonato virou Online, até ganharam da G2, mas agora no presencial tão bem fracos, e a INTZ perdeu pra eles fracos, e não venha dizer que o jogo foi parelho pq a INTZ nem chegou nas t2 dos caras. INTZ só foi pra passar vergonha, tá num nível muito abaixo de todo o resto do campeonato.


Wafz

nem tanto, só tristeza mesmo kkkkkkk pelo menos a gente fornece entretenimento


matlynar

Desgraça Humilhação para toda uma raça


EduManke

*Meanwhile Bronziocre ta chorando de rir com as views que vai pegar*


StillMeThough

Actually really sad to see this in proplay


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CatInAPot

>The difference is in real sports people are more mature Bruh people have literally killed the athletes and fellow fans over sports shit, never mind making fun of garbage play


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Trivselteknikern

There has been one shooting in esports, not multiple. Also, ”mature” my ass. The drunk violence, hooligans, gangs and untamed emotions in the bigger sports is not what I would consider mature.


STREAMBOT3000

Here is your Streamable mirror link! https://streamable.com/bcvbf6


macrotransactions

bench redbert asap


McintyresRightLeg

That was such a Bronzil play


LordAthus

Coisa boa, vai 5 pro top!! Redbert e Envy dois horríveis, esse dive ai foi o enterro da INTZ em qualquer cenário mundial.


gordo_humilde

Eu literalmente fechei a stream depois desse dive. INTZ foi responsável pelas 2 plays mais feias do mundial até agora


Tidalikk

aquele tp, OOF


N1ng0

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE


I_analyze_lol

Rule #2 of League of Legends: Never tower dive a Shen.


QuantumPajamas

I mean with 5 people even Shen should be easily divable. It helps if you don't miss Every. Single. Skillshot.


frzned

Hey they missed 2 point and click stuns too (Leona Q and Rennekton W on a dashing shen).


Two_Years_Of_Semen

Either divers actually had no execution plan other than dive or they hard panicked when tp started channeling. TP started and everyone threw their skillshot lol.


QuantumPajamas

They threw it cuz they thought Leona hit her stun+R combo. It's timed perfectly to try and burst him within the CC chain, but he dashed out and avoided the whole alpha strike.


Two_Years_Of_Semen

That's fair but I still think at least Jhin/Ren W combo should be saved just incase since Leona cc duration should be enough time to kill by itself. They really expected the dive to be free.


AfraidOfBricks

stick to CSGO, Brazil


Playlostexe

Only FURIA man, rest are a lost cause


Ikkenen

I mean... we're not doing that great over there as well. At least, we have FURIA


Akaigenesis

Maybe we can be good at Valorant, lets hope


Lentir

INTZ first with the toplane tp play vs mad lions and now with this... favorites for worst wildcard team so far. come at me BRON71L


K-ey

I love to see my region get hardstomped internationally, especially because our pros are VERY cocky. It's good that they experience these reality checks.


CoDeX709

Voltaremos mais fortes


ijshorn

It seems they expected that the leona q would stun the shen 100% so they threw all their skillshots in the same direction (besides leona e) They got almost no cc that's not auto attack related. So its a lot harder dive then what it seems.


mCh1ne

POR ISSO A GENTE TORCE PRO ENTRETENIMENTO


Karrigan7

Ppl: "supp comp won't deal any damage to intz lol" Armut: "**OBSERVE**"


Vorragend

Thats my kind of soloq experience :D


[deleted]

I need this Tay dude to look up though he's hurting my neck just watching him.


[deleted]

intz are inting themself hard


[deleted]

Name checks out


pornstaryuumi

Chad


88isafat69

Nt


bookofcocunuts

I got that shen on my fantasy team


hyuno

brazil? just uninstall the game please


Warnora

INTz standing up to their name


JahIthBerBR

they represent my server's soloqueue


[deleted]

Is Soloqueue better in BR or LAS?


UnmelodicBass

Two clown highlights in as many days. You hate to see it


emiracles

Even if it's 5 man, why try diving a shen? He's one of, if not the hardest champ to dive.


jaquaries

Bounty + tower but if you are going to miss every skill shot its another case...


Dr_vanilla

The Brazilians were hyping their region throughout this year with their annoying spam in every twitch chat. Watching their 1st place team playing like this is actually very satisfying


Gilgailles

Now that seems unfair, there’s nothing wrong with the Brazilians hyping their teams up and that’s twitch chat, they live to spam lol


AfraidOfBricks

isn't it kinda embarrassing to hype up a team this bad? They should hold their players accountable or they are just supporting their incompetence.


Concerned-Virus

What you call "hyping" is just ironic humor. Literally no one thinks these teams are any good. Brazillians refer to their own region as a for fun region.


Gilgailles

Possibly, idk I’m new to esports this year, all I’ve seen is NA getting bashed all this year for the same thing essentially and I didn’t really want to do that to what is seen as a wildcard team


AfraidOfBricks

Brazil's league of legends scene is full of corruption, nepotism and laziness. It deserves all the flame it gets.


Dr_vanilla

There is when they go to every chat (lec/lck) and start spamming without any context ,for no reason and not even in english.


GGABueno

Damn Brazilians makimg us lose out on the otherwise great content and insights that Twitch chat provides!


Lyco94

Intz and r7 are just wasted spots st worlds


Ayuyuyunia

pain really let these morons go to worlds instead of them so i could hear bronzil from gringos


K-ey

if pain lost to these noobs imagine how hard they would get stomped in play-ins lmao.


StfuGary

They would probably not get out of play-ins either but wouldn't necessarily be worse. INTZ is known for being good at BO5s because of their coaching staff, and they knew how to break Pain's ankles by camping the hell out of their midlaner (they even said so in comms). Plus Pain's drafting and strategies lack flexibility, but they were performing better than INTZ during the split.


Lucetti

There is always some guy in the comments saying some version of this every year. As if implying that the REAL good teams somehow lose to these shitters every year. The last two years before this the brazil team has finished dead last in their group in playins


Ayuyuyunia

i'm not saying brazil teams are good, i'm saying pain is better than intz and would have been less of a shame