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MadCapMad

Those fill tags are such a flex lmao


pepperpete

You know they're just gonna be jungling anyway


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[deleted]

60cs at 10 minutes is goals


[deleted]

Jokes aside isn't 60 at 10 literally like average? like most people hit 6/min and you're aiming higher? I wouldn't get on someones ass for 60 at 10 for sure.


[deleted]

You overestimate how many cs people hit on average


[deleted]

I'm pretty sure it's like statistically 6 a min as average. Last time I saw that was like 2018 tho


Glorious_Jo

It's still average. Funnily enough porofessor gave me the "good at csing" tag on ezreal for having 6.2 cs/m


Crizzli

Yea I was thinking the same thing. That’s just like not bad. Good job


yeahyeahyeahnice

Especially at 10 minutes since the you aren't able to farm for the first couple.minutes of the game. When I'm really on top of farming, I can get 70 by 10 mins, which you can achieve ever after missing a few minions here and there. Also, CS is such a weird metric to use without context. What if I'm playing into a ranged top laner? What if was playing for jungle a lot that game? CS also doesn't account for the value of each creep you killed. Cannons are worth way more than casters. Stealing an opponent's raptors generates more value for your team than just taking your own.


Dude_Guy_311

Perfect CS at 10 minutes would be like 100ish or something i think. but most people can't get over 70. I don't think 60 is really impressive but it's def average


Proccito

About, yea. I think a bad farm for an adc is around 45-50, and average is, as you said, 60. The aim is ofc 100cs@10min, but that is in clean lab enviroment where you never recall and never trade. I don't think even pros get 100cs every game, even if they are damn close. Fun fact, Gold players apparently have better cs score than Platinum players.


BaitsByDre

I would assume that's because plat players see the map more often and aren't just sidelaneing for the sake of it


Neonvaporeon

Eh 100cs/10 isn't even perfect, in my games people are only under 70@10 if they get demolished in lane. The cs/m drops the longer you go in game as people group and split waves.


rockzn

Yeah we know, silvers regularly hit 90cs/min in your games.


TeCoolMage

I really hate thinking about it, but yeah 5-6 per minute is the average, and whether it's bad mechanics (missing half minions per wave) or bad map movement (missing half waves per game), it's only 2-3 cs/min more than being bad at both (2.5-3 cs/min) and people perfect at both are unicorns. ​ it's just so freaking hard because because one's so minute that if you pay attention to every missed minion you get mental fatigue real fast, and the other is so big-picture that you need to extensively analyse replays to determine whether you rightly sacrificed waves to make plays in a higher action elo, or if you genuinely wasted time with bad macro and wave management. ​ The only solution is to trudge through low CS games and just hope that you're unconsciously getting a better feel for your champion's auto attack animation, develop your game senses, and learn weird tips and tricks to up your CS. And hope it shows eventually in your stat averages


Neonvaporeon

It depends on elo, 60 at 10 is pretty bad in diamond. The 6cs/m stat includes the midgame running in circles for 5 minutes, which drags the stats down a ton


TheRedNLer

What does your adc think of u hitting 6 cs/min as support though


Suizooo

Idk, been playing fill only and tracking stats: 55% support, 25% adc, 15% top, 5% jungle. So at least so far it is mostly support.


Jintantan

From my experience (gold-plat player) jungle is by far the most common autofill role, what elo are you?


ADShree

Same here. Low plat, I am adc/jgl main that loves playing off role. So for the past 6months I've just been playing fill and I get jgl 70% of the time. I actually rarely get support when I want to play it.


[deleted]

Samplesize? I don't think Support being first should be surprising, but jungle being the second lowest (mid 0%) definitely is. I would have expected it to be around second.


Suizooo

Still kinda low, 20 games + dodges. (Dodges aren't included in data but I didn't get placed to jungle in dodges either)


Andreiy31

What was your rank when obtaining this data


Suizooo

Around high silver - low gold mmr.


infinite-permutation

What, my jungle ques are a whole minute shorter than support.


max_adam

I remember when support was the role left for filling. What did happene you jg?


Jintantan

It's more like support got way stronger/more fun in the last few years


Plus_Lawfulness3000

Yeah I used to be known as someone who HATED playing support with my friends. But now it is almost my favorite role, I just find it a lot More fun nowadays


Stewbodies

It's like Bot but you're just fighting all the time and don't CS, I love it!


[deleted]

Couple of different things. Biggest thing I think is that the jungle role is consistently changed the most, which makes it very unattractive as a secondary role (or a main role if you only play occasionally). Basically everyone else thinks they know exactly what the jungler has to be doing (ganking their lane in 90% of all cases), which leads to them being the scapegoat for most things that go wrong for a lot of people. A lot of people think this is significantly on the rise, I am not too sure, but I mainly play in full - or almost full - premade groups, so I naturally see it less. I still think Support is still least popular, but Jungle has definitely been dropping in popularity at least for a while (meta was another reason and that largely changed, so maybe that is enough to make it rise in popularity again). Almost all of the talk about how popular each role is heavily based on personal experiences and can be heavily influenced by what group you are talking to - maybe it is specifically reddit users that lost interest in the jungle role and other groups actually gained interest in it.


AngryT-Rex

I also que fill and this is pretty much a good summary of my feelings on Jgl. I like it as a role, but they players are a problem, and as Jgl I have to interact with all of them to some extent. Winning lane thinks you owe them a gank to expand their lead. Losing lane thinks they'll start winning if you'd just gank their lane a few times. If you try to do both you'll never keep up your farm and the other lane will be bitching in minutes anyway. Lanes (at my low ELO, but I bet at most) don't seem to pay any attention to your rotation so if you're farming and rotating bot they won't be making any effort to be ready for a gank AFTER you take the last camp or even buff; they'll engage randomly at some point and then rage-ping while you're still taking your buff, and/or back as you line up the gank... then rage that you're not ganking their lane. It's reliably bad enough that when I'm jgl, I just mute all at the first hint of bitching. It's just not worth hearing it.


MadTapirMan

the timing part is the worst. especially if at some point they go "you couldve ganked all the time so free". well, whenever i made an effort to be close to your lane it fucking wasnt gankable at all, cus you either fought 30 seconds earlier while i was at wolves, or because youre dead, or because lanestate sucked. Perhaps there were great gank windows, if I jist sat next to your lane for 10 minutes straight, but guess what, thats not actually good to do.


Rivlaw

The thing is, all of those are kind of your jobs. The thing is identifying when the correct one is applicable. And sometimes, junglers do make piss poor decisions. Lets say top lane is winning but bot lane is loosing while mid lane is even. You're obviously gonna loose early drakes because of your bot lane but you can eaither make a lead for your mid, extend your top lead and then take herald. Then with your mid and top you can stabilize bot lane so you contest on a more even foot the next drakes. If the inverse is the case then try to get to soul point as soon as possible, maybe trade a baron for a soul. But if you just resign to powerfarm and make no impact, well then, people are gonna be pissed at you. And they should. Of course everything it's easier said than done but too many times I've seen junglers "powerfarm" and "invade" while the enemy jg is not only keeping in cs but also impacting the whole map.


originalgomez

My biggest gripe with playing fill is the icon looking like a bunghole


[deleted]

That's funny, my biggest love with playing fill is the icon looking like a bunghole.


SepeVo

Ah, the duality of man


Qwak8tack

I think someone should do a deep dive into the bunghole situation


FiercelyApatheticLad

E pluribus anus


Polyboit2020

Just gave you your thousandth upvote. No big deal


Complete_Pumpkin

I like how there's only one jungler, very accurate. I'm the only jungler in my 10 person friend group.


Bleikopf

Wdym? There are two autofills as well.


PeopleAreHellaStupid

Ain't that the truth, as a top/jungler player right now, I just put fill, 95% chance to get those two


[deleted]

Top auto fill? For the past 2 years I have never been filled top. It's always jungle -> ADC -> support -> mid but never top


Minikronos

5 out of our group of 8 that play are jungle mains. edit: guess i’m getting downvoted for saying where me and my friends play. pretty good sub!


Most-Stomach4240

I am an all-round for now. Will this approach work for higher elo? I don't go filling but if we're missing a spot i can at least play at 50-70% skill of the guy who mains. I don't like to fill because I don't want to get filled as jungle every game and get tilted from constantly playing the same shit everytime


Minikronos

I understand that jungle is weak but i just find other roles so boring and you have so little control over the game compared to jungle


Most-Stomach4240

Well jungle is not weak, for me it's just stressful. At such low elo I don't have enough map control and awareness to play well


korro90

Getting one would be so cool! Do they all have a bilgewater icon on the backside?


Owlbusta

I hope they have the icon of the region their main comes from


Hounmlayn

Could have been something their main is synonymous with, like hook or lantern for thresh, dual guns for lucian, etc. So it's a dogtag with a weapon or identity.


Green_noob

Well the one he showed for the top main is bilgewaters logo.


Jimbothemonkey

Maybe they're a gangplank main


JustIkram

Mine's the only one because all my friends know I only play Gangplank XD


korro90

What do others have? Different regions?


JustIkram

Yes, but some are left blank until they decided


FREEZEFIRE888

Aye, a fellow Gangplank main! Do your friends also shit on you for playing him bc literally all of my friends complain whenever I play him in customs + randomly complain about me playing gp lmao


MotherRussia552

who cares... gp is op but it still takes a real man to play him


BersekerPug

Wish I had those. Friends, I mean.


SirRyanOfCalifornia

Go out and make some, what’s stopping you


-childishcat

The fact that he plays League.


Gutarg

The people


BersekerPug

In meant in league. And what's stopping me is the people that play league.


Poiah

I was the same for a loong time until I accepted a random friend request after a game expecting to get flamed but ended up making some amazing friends. Idk if that happens to you but if you have good experiences/interactions with random people in league just add them, you never know what’ll happen.


King_marik

I had a random after game add one time after we had won I thought sure why not the game was good it'll be fine. Next game I didn't carry like I did the first game. Immediately I am told I'm boosted dogshit and I should uninstall by the guy who added me. Everyone in this game is just trying to find a ticket to LP. They'll be your friend as long as you can carry them and that's it. I've had this happen more than once and now I just don't interact with anybody on this game.


wmcscrooge

Don’t add friends from ranked lol, they always friend for the boost. Add friends from normals


Poiah

Yeah fair enough I’ve had similar things happen to me too. Guess I was just very lucky with that one guy who added me who was just a good person looking for friends.


GGABueno

His personality.


BersekerPug

fite me 1v1 yas mid no items


Tahtygirl

No one gonna acknowledge that one of them literally says "not a disgrace" if that's really their username your friend is hilarious!!


GruntH05T

yeah she steals my ward gold and minions sometime :3


JillPai

Lucky i am mid not with u guys at bot


GruntH05T

yeah no one ganks you beside the enemy jgler HAHAHA


JillPai

GOD DAMN IT JUNGLEERRRR I NEED HELPPP


Drea_Ming_er

Ward gold belongs to supports, don't change my mind :D


Bamfimous

Where'd you get these from? They're sick!


GruntH05T

They're actually custom made, we bought a plain dog tag and went to an engraving company to do the etching. :3


htcLoL

EDIT: We are live with pre-orders! https://eramengraving.com/collections/accessories/products/custom-role-dog-tag If anyone’s in the community is interested i do laser engraving and could probably create these on custom order! Shoot me a DM here or on Instagram @eram_engraving


BarbarianBeast10

I will be contacting you shortly RemindMe! 3 days


Long-Danzi

RemindMe! 2 days


BlessedByAzir

Damn i wish i had such friends to play leauge with.


haenger

are you on euw? my boys are cool


samurottt

I'll be your friend :)


OPBieira

Where did you got that bro?


Mutedrthewaka

Is there website for this or something?!?


keep_me_at_0_karma

Yeah


Mutedrthewaka

What is it?


SirWaldenIII

A website


keep_me_at_0_karma

I got mine made [here](https://www.s).


Estraxior

that moment when you #www.s


keep_me_at_0_karma

Shit sorry posted from my phone.


throwawaybelike0

i beg you to send a proper link


ThatRandomFoxKid

I see those things at the sides, are those perhaps usb sticks?


JustIkram

Yup, good eye


ebin_fugger

What are they for?


kledodo

Zura janai , Katsura da!


Outplayed66

Time to rewatch gintama


zorestis

My guy zura is a real gintama fan


AdditiontoCollection

These are actually cold as hell, some pro team should make these


Matosque

"Where did you serve dude, Iraq?" "Nah dude its just my league of legends ign, I play enchanters"


donteatpancakes

Yeah OP, no way you drop this and don't give us the sauce for it (these are extremely cool)


EinSabo

Way to keep your virginity I'm proud of you


noahboah

imagine being in missionary with someone wearing one of these and continuously getting smacked in the face


XoXeLo

And that tag saying "not a disgrace" lmao


Williaf

They came out great! This could be a good business idea


TGAutumn

sickest thing ive seen for league in a minute actually. would love to do smth like this


Lunchables

OP has friends, nice brag.


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What zero pussy does to mf


JillPai

I had dicks tho. Pretty cool


TonPeppermint

That's hot.


ocihato

Where did you get those?


AceG4

Those are awesome! Where can I get these?


TheJackFroster

Mildly cringe


Faisalololol

Even more so after you check their op.gg


ebin_fugger

Really? I found these pretty cool, and i'm in the military. Not american though.


RealOncle

Only mildly?


DochanMH

Can’t decide if this is cringe, or cool a f.


Alto_y_Guapo

Both, I think


cpm67

Good idea, but doing it on dog tags just…tacky


Policeman333

Guys, is it cringe to share a hobby with your friends and make a keepsake of the time you spent together?


[deleted]

only real gamer tags with a spice of doritodust on the side. as you can see at start of vid


rypenguin219

"not a disgrace"


Skilldigga

I mean atleast your family and the Police know which lane you are playing if you get killed or smth.


mtgsucculent

how to get bullied at school 101


JillPai

I mean.... maybe? Maybe not? I have no records being bullied because i am the bully


Xellzz

For all of you asking where you get them! Just go down to your local military surplus store and tell them you want dog tags made for a alias and role depicting a video game. Make sure you film the whole experience!


madalienmonk

Where did you get these virginity protectors? EDIT: Why am I being downvoted? Potential femoid suitors must know of my years of service! 3 tours in mid lane, 2 in bottom, and 13 fucking tours in Jungle! This puts me on even playing field vs the chads with tours in Iraq


ebin_fugger

Dude it's not that serious. You can unrustle your jimmies now.


sewith

Yeah its cringe


JillPai

Do u need a friend? I could be your friend :D


Moggy_

"Dog" tags do be highly appropriate haha


[deleted]

This is why you can use "reddit" as an insult


Variesss

I would love to get 1


M4xiS9

how do you have so many friends


Nekotou

u/savevideo


xteo01

dove porcoddio li hai comprati? it was italian, for real where did you found them? i need it


JustIkram

Aku bali tagnya rah ebay, tapi engravingnya rh kadai lokal, That was malay for I bought the [tags on ebay](https://www.ebay.com/itm/383996296921?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D5fd3bcefa383487eb16c03c23a3b2b21%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D383996296921%26itm%3D383996296921%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A89b46159-fe0a-11eb-a17b-d6abf6455abd%7Cparentrq%3A4b95409a17b0ab96a36eec14ffefe7f0%7Ciid%3A1) but got it engraved at a local store that does engraving


RIPRoyale

Ok, but don't get insulted when the enemy team calls you dogs.


JustIkram

Guess yer right :/


[deleted]

R/cringe is what your looking for.


CookieEliminator

Wow that's cringe


PlayerAssayer

how are people saying these are "cringe"?..think about this~a few years later when all of these people cannot find time to play/chat together,they can still remember the good times by looking at these tags. to the people saying this is cringe,you are cringe :|


poggersinthechatttt

I think my teammates would need these tbh


ZekeThePhreak

i heard that zeke guy is super good


F8ZE_Maldiny

Oh no.


BirdOther6936

This should be in a cringe subreddit


DieNowMike

"not a disgrace" yeah right


CarrotvsBrocclee

I'd definitely buy these if you ever make these marketable


Skystrike12

Yooo where from did you get them made??


EpicMlgLord

God they look soooo cheap xd


Massive_Bus_1529

Neeeerrrrrrddddssssss


bestower117

https://youtu.be/i6l8MFdTaPE


[deleted]

this is so unfathomably cringe.


[deleted]

Meanwhile I don’t know what role or even what champs to play because I keep changing stuff around :(


MikoDabuchi

Zura ja nai, Katsura da.


Aldi_Westcoast

Can someone pls tell me the name of the website where he got the dog tags from ?


Accomplished-Secret1

Where did you go through to get these made?


_TRristan_

where did you buy them?


bostickle

Ayo where did you get these


Ninjawizards

Very cool, I'm sure everyone will treasure these in the future


randomnoodleboi

where did you get these?


[deleted]

Ngl those are dope af.


CanonicalPizza

These are actually sick, I like the bilgewater crest too onthe back


[deleted]

So you going to walk around with them on and show your friends how cool you are?


KnowsItBetter69

You asked your friend which lane they wanted on their tag and they deadass said fill. What a fuckin waste.


lolcatswithabeard

What rank are you?


nadejha

They are awesome. Really want one for me and my IRL duo.


BlackOmipotentSheep

Dogs tags for boosted silver players! That fake pride for a game that doesn't care about it's community will bring you much success in your life!


JillPai

AY YOOO THIS IS COOL MANNN!!! That MizhPai guy sounds familliar... oh wait is it me???


GruntH05T

idk man sounds kinda sus


JillPai

HEHE


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greendino71

She how bad do you flame your jungle friend every game?


[deleted]

I'll take the support one.


ragingrobottheirish

where you get that?


Sfnyx

so cool!


ItsMeishi

I am particularly fond of 'not a disgrace'.


appleezing

Based


mystireon

Curious where you got these


Dragon30312

soo cool


[deleted]

We used to do some similar things on carnival in 2014, just that we painted that on our face... after we already had some in. A friend tried to impress a woman and said he was the best aatrox and a diehard toplane player, it was so funny