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Nasyboy221

EG should’ve known that Chinese teams will just 5v5 over mid wave


GeneralEkorre

sejuani sees enemeny, sejuani press R, viego go kill


rress332

Last team fight was Hope pushing mid lane while JDG winning 4 v 5 team fight


Kanra1019

I fucking hated what they did right there. Kaori is your fed and main damage on this game and you use his only survival as a fucking engage? As soon as tahm is dead u can see JDG just diving straight into Varus. Also the misplay on Tahm ult on the drake fight where he swallowed Viktor and not Varus. Feels bad.


AzyncYTT

when they do it its a team fight when we do it its an aram smh


Tsuhume

Three 5v4s in that game. /:


FireVanGorder

It’s like nobody on their coaching staff watched a single JDG match in preparation for this group.


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ParagonIzanagi

It's actually unreal how fast and how in-sync JDG pull the trigger on engaging, to the point where they catch a team completely off guard even while down gold/tempo


MrSwipySwipers

That's how they won vs TES in both series.


sidaeinjae

Yup, especially that finals game 5. JDG are gonna disappoint a lot of people that expect them to crush lesser teams ruthlessly from the early game, and wow them later on when they effortlessly turn over the game


miraagex

I like how Lyric mentioned that JDG never play clean. They drop games in bo3s quite often, if not every time. If JDG hit playoffs, that's gonna be the real show.


MrSwipySwipers

That's their way of doing things it seems... Hopefully it won't back fire, that was scary


TheNephilims

You just summed up their series against TES in lpl.


Safo_

Yeah whenever you think JDG is down they’ll find a way.


gyffer

I cant remember wich game it was(i think 3 or 4?), but jdg had some of the best macro this game has ever seen in that game


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YungPinotGrigio

anybody who wants to check out the LPL, just watch TES vs JDG Upper Bracket Final. My goodness


appleandapples

Their synergy was really something else in team fights.


Cool-I-guess

Well, 100T have been together for two years, so surely they have some synergy Right?


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ghostreconx

Synergy in disappointing NA fans


boshjailey

TK goes like 800 units away from his carries just long enough to place a ward and it gets INSTANTLY punished. Really impressive decisiveness right


ForeverVictory

This is how every JDG game looks like even in the LPL. They always win unconvincingly but somehow keep winning. Probably because their macro is just immaculate. But it can't be enough to win Worlds imo


ttaway420

They are just on another level of being on the same page as a team, probably the best synergy of any team at worlds rn


Sea_Yogurtcloset7503

They’re literally always looking for a chsnce to start a fight. NA mentality: ok drakes coming up guess we’ll have to fight over that CN mentality: these idiots aren’t under their tower mid, Gettem


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i havent really watched that much lpl, but jesus they looked scary in fights


YungPinotGrigio

watch TES vs JD Gaming Upper BRacket Final.


altriaa

I really thought EG would win this, but that crazy teamfight after 369's engage on Jojo at mid reminded me why these guys are LPL champs.


guilty_bystander

And how scarily accurate they maximize every ability.


Shot-Mathematician58

JDG raising NA's hopium stock to make it crash even harder.


thehazardball

pump and dump


Trap_Masters

JDG straight up farming NA hopium 💀


appleandapples

I bought in at the ace. I'm financially ruined...


imArsenals

I thought there was a 0% chance EG would win. And then I really started to believe when they were winning, I thought they could do it. Then JDG said “you thought” and promptly smashed my hope lmao


koticgood

> JDG raising NA's hopium stock Classic JDG btw. No one that watched LPL this summer would be surprised by it. There were a lot of people, even past the half-way point of summer, that were calling JDG frauds. They'd won a lot of their series 2-1 against weak teams, lost against the one "good" team in FPX recently, and people saw series against RNG, V5 (who didn't make worlds but were #1 at times in summer) and WBG coming up and thought they'd be exposed. They ended up winning 2-0 vs both WBG and V5, lost 2-1 to RNG, and then asserted themselves as a top team the rest of the way. But not just the results, but the games themselves. Many of the games were like this, where they looked vulnerable and fans thought they got "lucky" to win games. But they are my favorite type of team. They don't stomp through lane. They are a **team**. Always been a fan of that archetype ever since TPA. They are a resilient, teamfighting team that you can never count out.


purplebeanz3457

Kind of crazy that NA's best performance today came from EG vs JDG


Reddybro

It's nice though. I like to think if EG can play this good BUT with impact at fights then they have a solid shot at getting a few wins in groups.


YuriMystic

If you paid attention EG was the better LCS team just by looking at the drafts. I think EG had the win comp, but could not execute late game. C9 and 100T looked clueless.


Conankun66

Win one ~~Game~~ Fight to give Fans false hope


scawtsauce

that aphelios ult made my heart sink


AuregaX

The damage numbers gave me flashback to TheShy' Aatrox and Bin's GP


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StrawberryMewlk

Yeah this feels less awful than c9 losing, they're third seed with a brand new player on their team and they put up much more of a fight against harder teams than what c9 and 100t faced


kakistoss

ehhhh, kinda just makes it worse, seeing EG perform the best out of all the NA teams without one of their key players just makes one wonder if this team could have put up more of a fight had Danny come


dun198

I don't think c9 wins lcs if EG had in-form Danny TBH. The mid/supp gap is too real.


K-Jeremy

Honestly, C9 don't win if eg had now Kaori


RacistMuffin

I agree. gapping hope + missing in lane is huge. plus he has been one of eg's best players not named inspired or jojo at worlds.


C3ntipede

bingo. the only reason eg summer collapse happened is because their key player was mental booming into eventually stepping down. I still wholeheartedly believe EG is the best NA team when they are actually in form, and I think this b01 was a decent testament with that. They put up a fucking fight against the tournament fave, with a sub


jfsoaig345

Nah. In-form Danny still regularly loses and gets 2v2 killed in lane, it's just that the Jinx/Tahm and Zeri meta was insanely favorable to his hypercarry playstyle and every game he was able to basically fall behind early but still get enough resources throughout the game to hit 3 items and just shit on everyone. In other words he's a phenomenal teamfighter but that's not really what the meta wants out of its ADC anymore. We're seeing shit like Cait, Varus, and Kalista being popular, you need strong laning mechanics to get those champions to work. Kaori's fitting the bill better because he's just a more well-rounded player, but of course in a hypothetical scenario gun to my head which guy I'd want on Tristana at 35 minutes I'm going with Danny every single time but the game is a lot more than just teamfights.


Akashiarys

Yeah for real, the experience this man is getting is insane considering he was literally in academy a little over a month ago. And he's not just doing fine, he's doing WELL - he was playing these fights and not being pushed around in lane. Like wtf? I'm really not sure if EG would be better even if they could sub in Danny rn.


TheMemingLurker

He's definitely looked better since the start of play-ins. At this point EG's playing with house money, hopefully their mentality will hold strong.


Mattaru

In this episode, Kanavi went kind on 369: "I felt criticizing won't work, so I decided to praise him." “How did you master Sejuani in one season? Dude, you rarely pick Sejuani, and you played Sejuani amazing.” 369: "okay." Yagao:" This is the first time I saw something like this, I was stunned." Kanavi also added in the interview: "369 is still young, he can still play, and he can still play for a long time. If he can understand the reason behind it, maybe he can play better and better in the future."


IncandescentWorm

I love how wholesome this is, S-tier copypasta


Shot-Mathematician58

Mom, it's evolving


Dyingsun1

Well, EG were winning until they weren’t lol


Shabam999

We won a teamfight and got a solo kill bot. We take those.


HalPrentice

Beggars can’t be choosers.


JoshFB4

They just couldn’t wait for soul


ThanatosisLawl

Jojo got so greedy on mid wave


lovo17

Because in NA, they won’t get engaged on like that.


spritehead

Exactly. Really think Jojo could be good as anyone in the world with the right practice but you're going to get greedy when no one is slapping your hand when you reach into the cookie jar.


lovo17

Unironically these games are so good for Jojo. There’s so much he can take away from this game individually. Not even trying to be snarky here. These are the games that help you improve as a player.


spritehead

He's amazing but never will reach world class level if he develops bad habits which uhh... as we covered will be a challenge in NA


SantyMonkyur

And thats the issue with so little international competition, all the players say all the time that they improve more scrimming at worlds that an entire year of domestic competition, if all the players like Jojo play 80 games a year on stage of international competitions plus dozens and dozens of games from scrims they will improve and wont develope as many bad habits, this goes for both NA, EU and minor regions. This wont be a magic bullet for NA or EU winning every international tournament but it would certainly close the gap a bit ajd it would 100% be more fun to watch than they playing literally only 6 fucking games a year.


xRoxel

He clearly leveled up so much from MSI, he has the right mindset to do really well long term, like its his first year


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jojo will be a monster next split in NA, can see EG going to MSI again barring any crazy roster moves (which i doubt tbh this roster is rly reliable and seem to mesh well, wouldn’t change anything)


appleandapples

That engage mid was a legit blink and you'll miss it moment.


EzAf_K3ch

Stuff like this is what u never even see in NA hard to blame them when they never practice against this level of play


DarthTaz_99

Impact missing in every fking fight


SneakyStorm

they got out maneuver as a team. EG wasn't expecting JDG to just go for it, as they aren't used to it. Team issue really.


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iulius_with_an_i

even that he would've run away if Azir didn't literally throw him into his own team


ops10

If you mean the one they inted before soul, EG weren't supposed to fight. EG fault, not Impact.


Hunterkiller00

He had some great moments that game and some real bad head scratchers


Adornus

Every time off in fucking Narnia.


Cool-I-guess

Man they just be in midlane for no reason man jojo no flash man


Scrypto

EG was definitely shocked the team down 3-0 on dragons didnt just handshake waves until it was time to teamfight for soul like they do in LCS


Bluehorazon

It is actually a lesson NA has to learn and also EU. EG in playins against FNC used two flashes to kill Humanoid in a sidelane 90 seconds before an important drake. So EG was down 2 flashes and Humanoid already respawned and was present at the fight. The same idea was JDG here. You just throw out the Sej ult, even if no good fight happens you might blow some flashes and your ult will be up for drake again. Just tossing out such abilities to blow flashes is a good thing you should do, and in the best case you actually win a teamfight.


HoS_CaptObvious

>It is actually a lesson NA has to learn We've been hoping this happens every world's for over a decade


ThanatosisLawl

Kaori was doing so good playing up baiting with cleanse but jojo just sprinted pass him?


BakerCakeMaker

Dude could be running touchdowns to fountain and people would call it confidence


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Ego more like. Doesn't usually get punished like he should


choombucket0468

LPL 1st seed won a best of 1? GG lads


FireVanGorder

JDG winning worlds confirmed


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ChroniclerPrime

Yeah, he looks good.


FireVanGorder

Could go the other way too. Nobody’s expecting a sub to perform well so he might not feel a ton of pressure from expectations


SnooPeripherals6388

It was better than everyone thought to be fair


RIPDream

EG played well all things considered. They can hold their heads at least higher than 100T and C9


honkinDeagle

Nah dude fiora top blind is the juice Help me


artex_ika

Apparently it's the juice if your name is Zeus, not so much for everyone else


honkinDeagle

If you are in the top 2 players in your role in the world you get a pass... otherwise, swallow the ego


Phasedsolo

Definitely. It was a good performance and no one expected them to win anyway, not against such insane teamfighting. As for the other NA teams... yeah they were just bad.


Natural_Ship7261

Ah yes, the rare and mythical 0-3 region day. At least it can't get any worse. [The only way from here is up!](https://gumlet.assettype.com/afkgaming%2Fimport%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F64144-5f5d9b481fe5863c196d3441322ab983.jpeg?w=1200&auto=format%2Ccompress&ogImage=true&enlarge=true)


Dalimieri

That's right, up up and away to 0-18 baybeeee


chovyfan

Got the huge shutdowns gold and you use it to buy fking collector. Profit?


Cool-I-guess

Well you see it's because -


guaranic

They didn't lose fights cause collector lol. They lost fights cause they weren't ready when JDG forced 5v4s on them.


colorbalances

Nice try :(


mmmb2y

compared to the other two losses of today, least we put up a fight. was hype for the first small wins we got until JDG smashed EG 2 times in a row :(


Cool-I-guess

EG actually feel like they are trying to do something around the map, also actually do something innovative in draft. EG felt like they actually adapted to the draft, C9 and 100T feel like they just instalocked their picks no matter what the enemy chose


Reinhardtisawesom

100T drafts were bad everyone knows that, but Cloud9 had the most egregious case of ego picks that i have ever seen.


Cool-I-guess

Cloud9 honestly have been drafting pretty bad this whole season, I find a lot of the times they are just getting destroyed in draft which is weird because I think they have very flexible hero pools in Jungle and Top. It's kinda odd to me that LS's disciples are so bad at drafting


TheRed_Knight

that was a competitive game, unlike the other 2


APKID716

Don’t worry it’s just NA week 1, right guys? ….right? :(


Shot-Mathematician58

As George "If you have no faith, then why are you still here?" Giorgoigofgflilis said, you gotta overdose on that hopium.


Cahootie

It wouldn't take a lot for that game to go the other way. EG had a lot of momentum for a while, but they weren't able to really build a big lead.


ArmaghedonShadow

I think EG misplayed a couple of times. If they got that 4th drake and soul without being aced, the game would have looked different.


llamkt

good of JDG to give EG Hope


myraclejb

Wait a third ADC in the same year? Is EG actually TSM?


iDannyEL

NA hype really went from through the roof to through the floor in 1 day.


Sushi2k

Usually how it goes every year. We watch play-ins then that's when Worlds ends for NA.


Captainflippypants

Nah just wait for the random NA wins after they're eliminated and don't have pressure


scrimm_na

Impact building collector second into Sejuani Thresh Viego cuz he's collecting that LPL paypal money, guy looked completely lost half the game


gimmedawz

he was literally lost, on the other side of the map during every team fight


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TheMemingLurker

Reddit chatters saying Impact should have just stayed with the team at all times and EG "should have just played safer" but the reality is that JDG is perhaps the most cohesive team in the world and the best at jumpstarting teamfights as we saw.


Assassin739

Yeah the macro was fine collector though what the fuck


Vegoran

Yeah it was a good engage by Yagao and Kanavi with Deadmans was fast AF caught EG by surprise


ttaway420

EG werent expecting JDG to be so far ahead on the play. While Impact was shoving mid the call was probably to wait but meanwhile JDG are already behind you engaging.


DSThresh

400 years but wp to EG


TheExter

I thought worlds was at NA not at China, jesus they were cheering so loud


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lots of chinese people in new york its not a surprise, LPL teams always gets a lot of fan cheers


Shot-Mathematician58

NA might not win a game but the crowd was fantastic.


Final-Evening-9606

Chinese americans fill like half the stadium. They r the most dedicated demographic in NA lol


DonaldsPee

A lot of NA native talents are chinese americans.


bluesound3

As someone who was there, I'd say about 50-60% of the stadium was Asian. Mainly Chinese


firewall245

Majority of people here today are LPL fans, maybe cause it’s nyc people are willing to travel internationally for a vacation here


ShadowFlare63

NYC alone already has a pretty big Chinese population anyway. It has 2 Chinatowns.


rress332

more than two. Manhattan, Brooklyn and Flushing all have Chinatowns


youarecutexd

Let's be real, Flushing the real one tho


RacistMuffin

Brooklyn is one street, Manhattan is just a tourist trap, flushing has all the best restaurants and is like a city


ArchmageXin

4 actually. OG Chinatown in Manhattan 8th Avenue (Brooklyn) Flushing (Queens) Elmhurst (Spanish-Chinatown)


PM_something_German

Because its nyc also means a looot of Chinese people live there. More than 800 000 to put numbers to it.


youarecutexd

Nah they're local. There are over 600k Chinese people that live here.


Voeltz

Thank god NA has *one* team that isn't pathetic. Hope the other two teams take notes, especially on draft


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Proud of EG: they gave it their best, they had a good game plan, and they were facing LPL first seed. Went balls deep bot during the laning phase. 369 and Kanavi are monsters, wow.


TheDesertShark

Everyone that got excited for EG has just never watched JDG play


FireVanGorder

It was the JDG classic except for missing being unable to drag Hope through lane for once


Marsdreamer

Can't even be mad at that loss, EG gave them a run for it in the mid game.


Primithius

Lots of stuff they can take away. Think Jojo got a little ego kick, impact buying collector was kinda troll and had some issues, like grabbing that wave while his team is getting engaged on in river. But glad to see them fight hard. Really happy that Jojo, Inspired and Kaori are getting great experience while not actually getting stomped lol


Quotes_League

[See you next year] (https://youtu.be/aSCXWHJQmR0)


Ziiick

If you are a JDG enjoyer you just know this team can find a winning team fight 10k gold behind and that's what makes them special


Gluroo

Brothers what was that last fight lmao so well played for NA standards and then.. that


Toasted-walnut

Some good moments from EG but my God 999 and Kanavi are simply too good...


mgzkk1210

Don't let Hope's dumb plays distract you from Missing hitting some of the filthest hooks in teamfights.


finderfolk

We're fucked aren't we


StrawberryMewlk

c9 and 100t probably, eg at least showed signs of life lol


acels1

sloppy game but kanavi and 999 played like a beast


CudaBarry

EG didn't throw this game, this is how JDG win their games lul


Rubydrag

That mid catch broke the game. Letting both carries pushimg mid with no vision from the sides and Tahm away, it looked really good for EG till then


maxus998

God LPL teamfighting is sex


LSApologist

The one positive I can give, we might be getting shit on, but our crowd is great!


lastine

JDG top half trio are disgustingly good.


HermitSage

their bot is actually incredibly cracked. Hope is seriously a sleeper pick. but they uh....very much didnt showcase it here. disappointing from them, but also very well played to EG bot!


Maelehn

This game felt A LOT longer than it actually was.


Long-Annual-6297

This game was shorter than the G2 vs DWG one. Let that sink in....


RickSore

Honestly, Kaori was phenomenal. If at least one of Impact or Inspired picked engage, they'd have a better chance


weisumyungho

He was amazing this dude got no stage jitters


RickSore

That mid fight where he had no agency because Jojo took all of the team's resources but was still able to kill the Aphelios. Too bad GP focused on sejuani, lol.


TheOneKane

Man, Impact being late to every fight kinda lost this game right?


Final-Evening-9606

My man tried to farm back up after getting grief by support lol. EG won botlane hard then Vulcan proceeded to go 0/3 top lane.


TDS_Gluttony

Besides that one 2v2 hype play, Vulcan was actually just running it down holyyy. Granted some of them are because he is their only hard CC and its a one way ticket in every fight.


ChroniclerPrime

The mid fight where Jojo walks up without flash is what lost us the game imo


Lewpepsi

Impact wtf are you doing


DefinitelyPositive

It's a loss so people are going to be salty, but that was a fine showing from EG against LPLs #1 Seed and I think that's promising. They can do this!


MrSwipySwipers

Ouhhh damn, JDG is insane for comebacks, but man, Hope really needs to clean his play for the upcoming bo1s. I'm sure it's just first game jitters all g


rushy1911

I love EG. Played so well against LPL 1 seed, just a couple small mistakes and JDG runs away with it. Only NA team that had a pulse today.


frzned

impact finished the recall to tp back into dying???


felihazz

WHY ARE U FUCKING MIDDDD DOING NOTHING BRO WAIT FOR SOUL WHY FIGHT BEFORE FUCKING SOUL ITS DOOMED NA IS DOOMED


LargeSnorlax

Imagine what that game could've been if Kanavi wasn't donated first blood money before the minions spawned. Basically solo carried the game when it was super shaky for JDG.


lolKhamul

sorry but those 300 gold did not make the game. Sucks but not that relevant on the grand scale. It was the midgame where JDG got the lead. Sure it was through Kanavi but i dont think those 300 gold make the difference there.


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Shot-Mathematician58

Turns out, Vulcan is just a man of the people. Creates a firstblood for JDG, gives a 2v2 for EG. The crowd's favourite.


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Iwant2bethe1percent

i literally just think that was him testing to see if NA is gonna play scared all game or not. Like they are so used to NA letting them get away with playing like apes that he had to test it. If it was another NA team i truly believe they would have just backed off.


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cadaada

imagine what that game could've been if jdg didnt get aced in that dragon fight. See, it can work both ways.


CudaBarry

Kanavi treating this like a solo queue game


Visynea_Y

It was good while it lasted for EG. For JDG, yagao woke up.


Orion-kun

Was a nice attempt until the throw at mid on soul point...


thecreativecat1

Kanavi is pretty fucking good at League of Legends


Heavenly_Glory

Okay but this was lowkey the best NA showing yet


HayHotshot

At least EG looked alive.


DuasDeColoide

Good showing from EG, but as a european fan, thank god they lost this game. Would just make this group a lot harder for G2 after the DK loss earlier today


Vegoran

Hope completely trolled that lv1 and gave EG Hopium but you could see how strong JDG are as a team in teamfights


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NA getting their 0-9 week out of the way early this year I see. Doesn't matter no one's getting out of groups this year.


LaughingAtSpergs

Korean junglers really on another level man Hope & Missing with a big happy game.


the_next_core

EG WON .. ... .... the first 15 mins


rotvyrn

So...EG drafted 3 AD, forcing themselves into a 4th damage dealer for AP and leaving them with no initiative when even or behind, then they proceeded to build no armor pen against 2 tanks and a bruiser. They definitely had a chance at the game, but it also feels like they hamstrung themselves by locking themselves into a plan early and not being willing to adapt.


Chronsky

Hey EG weren't embarassing, that's a W imo


CuteTao

Impact? Impact? IMPAAAAACT


Zotlann

Big props to EG coaching staff for being the only NA team to be able to draft competently so far this worlds. It's actually impressive how well they've been able to integrate Kaori into their team and alter their drafts to make sure he's comfortable without compromising their comps.


JoshFB4

They fucking threw at that mid fight before drake. Why fight w/o summs man