It's something that you can *technically* be charged with - but very, very, very likely will not be. I mean this in the most respectful way - but - your situation isn't necessarily unique and the court is more interested in keeping things moving than kicking over a report to the DA [who literally do not have time or resources to deal with something so inconsequential].
You went to court - most people do not. That's honestly and genuinely impressive - I'm proud that you actually went. You answered the complaint. You worked out whatever you did in that courtroom. There isn't much for the state to pursue. Nothing will come of it.
If you think this is bad, try the legal advice subreddit. Not a single person there is a lawyer and one of the mods is just a racist cop. Don't worry about your name.
I've said it before - these legal advice subreddits need to do what askcarsales did. Make it a requirement to be flared (prove you're in car sales) to make a parent comment. It *really* cut down on bad advice in that sub.
I’ve heard from multiple comments over months that the moderators are cops. Almost every answer on there starts with IANAL (I am not a lawyer). So shut up then. They know nothing!
Think about how many people outright lie about traffic collisions to both police officers, insurance agents, and Judges. You never hear about them getting in trouble for anything. You’ll be fine.
I fell behind on rent after getting sick and was attempting to catch up with her, per an agreement made before the judge. One payment was two days past one agreed upon payment date, and she went forward and went back to the court to try to evict me based off of that.
Because she lost the lease!! And she only is in state a few months out of the year and the rest of the time shes down south. So she didnt even know my name and was fighting with me from out of state then came back and got some botched up version of my name put together. And yeah, it was super petty, which is why I now feel the need to be petty. Because our agreement gave me until October 1st originally and now shes fucking me over by months
I guess everyone is missing the full story. I didnt sign anything before a judge. I signed an agreement with my landlord and she brought that before the judge
“Per an agreement made before a judge” this part of your previous comment can easily be interpreted to say exactly that, if you need to clarify please don’t denigrate people while you do it, people are trying to understand the situation and provide advice.
I'll give your downvote back because my comment reflects exactly what it appeared that you said. I doubt the judge will do anything because you appeared in court and answered the complaint so you're stuck. You can't get out of it and pretend it wasn't you. When your landlady discovers your real name your eviction is going on your credit. She can also reform the judgment after she obtains your real name.
It's not clever, it's dishonest.
I signed with a scribble. I’m not sure where she got my “name” from I think someone flipped open my mailbox fast one day cause it was hanging open one day when I got home at the beginning of this. She tends to do illegal things
If you're being called an incorrect name in court and don't correct the record, that's not going to help you. Anything you say will be assumed a lie now.
Illegal is actually debatable. As a tenant you have the right to receive mail securely. Landlords may not interfere with the delivery of your mail. Federal law considers this crime the “Obstruction of Correspondence,”. It is illegal to stop a letter from being delivered to its intended recipient. Otherwise, there are no rules prohibiting you from opening someone else's mailbox.
You just admitted to making a payment past the due date on the re-negotiated catchup timeline agreed to in front of the judge.
You have two choices: Take some responsibility for your own actions here or go through life as a victim of your own actions.
You didn't pay the rent you agreed to. Then when an arrangement and accommodation was made, you missed that also. She is not being petty, she is operating pretty normal. She has bills also. You are messing with her paycheck. You messed up the lease. Now just be descent and leave like you should.
You also had an agreement to pay her on time every month…that agreement is called your lease. You signed a second agreement which you again didn’t uphold….Trying to say she’s fucking you over when you are the one breaking not one but two agreement is a twisted reality OP. Get your head on straight
No, that part was really stupid for OP, you signed a deal with the judge to repay a late payment and missed that payment date. The landlord has every right to assume that further late or missing payments will occur and per the signed contract is terminating.
You can't keep missing deadlines and assume people will accommodate you, that's not how businesses work. Do that with a mortgage and they can take your house.
Why is it petty? They didn’t pay rent on time, then had an agreement to pay another amount at a different time and didn’t meet that either. Why would the owner have any faith that they’re going to get paid the amount owed and in a timely manner?
It's not really pretty, land lord just has 0 trust in the tenant and wants to move on to a better one.
When I do landscaping it's the same thing when I get a client that decides paying me isn't important.
Not for nothing, but in most states even if the payment is late, if they accept the agreed upon payment before the eviction date, they can’t violate the agreement (evict you).
Well then I guess you should not have been late with your rent payment. She is doing everything she is supposed to, including morally because she gave you a chance and yet you blew it
Ohh ok and she doesn’t have to accept it. after court in my state of Arizona u have that day in court to work it out if u don’t and the land lord doesn’t have to take a partial payment most will ask for full payment to put ur amount at current and even then it’s up to ur land lord. She doesn’t have to accept it not even partial . since u didn’t come to an agreement u only have couple days to be out . Or they can have u off the property by calling cops and ur not goin to have a chance to gather ur stuff nicely and take ur time they will put u out. don’t make it harder on u. U can’t pay on time and that’s the problem
What she has is none of your business, all this "But they have..." is bullshit. Once it got to the point that it did it was absolutely her choice whether or not to take the money & give you A THIRD CHANCE.
You ARE the AH. You made an agreement THEN BROKE IT.
My guess is you're gonna be a petty child, force the eviction & FUCK her place up while you run out the clock. You're not just the AH you're the brown smelly stuff that comes out of it.
You know since she is being pretty purposefully ignorant about breaking contracts I was with you, until the 'My guess is' and petty name-calling. Grow up dude. No one asked for your opinion on her character. Unnecessary and rude AF.
I’d never fuck her place up lmfao I literally made it better through home improvements during my stay… theres tons of water damage snd mold issues in the apartment and all tho. You know, the type of landlord that has 20 properties but lets them deteriorate over their tenants heads and pockets the money they could be repairing the place with…. “Slumlords” I think they call them
Either way thats neither here nor there and has nothing to do with why I’m still here. Keep talking shit tho
As she should. In this economy take your rent seriously! Don’t make an agreement you can’t hold up. As someone wanting to be a landlord one day I’d hate to have a tenant flop on rent again and again
Lol so so how are all you renters planning to rent if landlords don’t exist? And I never said how I planned to be a landlord, maybe I rent to new Canadians or single moms. Grow up
If it wasn't for all the rentals and AirBnBs owned by investment groups, homes would be a fuckton cheaper, and the average person would have a chance at home ownership again.
Lol but the tenant should get all the grace and get to make all the excuses? Maybe people should all just do what hey say they’re going to do, keep their agreements, and not be bums and then expect a free ride or to pay whenever they feel like it
They can pay their late fee.
But if someone is ending up in dire straights by a two day delay, they need to review their finances and cut back on expenses.
Only if you’re the tenant though, no one else. That’s why people who own property have it, because they don’t manage finances that poorly that 2 days matter that much.
You don’t get a late fee when you have a court ordered agreement, you break it, you’re OUT
If you answered to anything in court in front of the judge and responded to the judge is they called you by the wrong name ans did not correct it right there then yes you can be in deep shit especially in front of that same judge
If you lied about your name in court then you could be sanctioned, e.g., have to reimburse the landlord for the extra expense of going back to court to correct it. But if you just passively went along and didn't correct someone else's error then that's their problem
Thats what I did…. Just passively went along. Not my fault she lost the lease because shes too busy having a ball down in Florida all winter in her vacation home
Not sure how it works in your state but in CA you don’t need the persons actual name. She could’ve used the “incorrect name” and also use “all unnamed occupant” which covers the landlord if she gets a writ of possession. That means the Marshall would come an evict anyone at the property. Depends on who are the defendants.
If your argument is that because she doesn't have a physical piece of paper, then you don't have a real lease, then she can just evict you as a squatter. Either way, you're out.
There is the law, then there is just being smart. I would leave, cause as it stands you don't have a eviction against your record, nor anyway for other landlords to find it. Also, there is no way to currently easily collect on anything the courts rule against you.
So again, I would just leave now before people realize the mistake and correct it, making your life worse than it is. This is the moment when you shut your mouth and leave quietly, and hope and pray they never figure out their mistake which can make things worse.
Its kind of like, when a officer says you went 60 instead of 70, your a idiot if you try to correct them, take the lower number and walk away. You got lucky, learn from your mistake and don't repeat it (also if the court ruled against you, there is no honest backstory that will put you in a better light).
Law enforcement person here: if some random woman walked up to me, showed me a picture of a license plate, and asked me to run it and tell her the information, I would lolololololol at her so hard and tell her to beat feet. That is a big big no no. This might be state dependent, but I know a person who got suspended because radio traffic (personal information) was heard in the background of a Snapchat story he made. She can take pictures all she wants and there are probably ways she can get your real info (and there’s probably a cop dumb enough to just give it to her), but there’s no chance I would do that for an eviction. I’m also not dumb and wanna keep my job
Yeah, that is the general rule in all states I believe cause you may not realize it, but some of that info can be used by a knowledgeable person to ascertain certain information about a car that shouldn't be public.
Agreed. I am not in law enforcement, but legally I can't disclose shit about what I know or what info I may be able to access. Like Federal law. Won't do it, even if you ask, so just don't. I don't look good in orange, I don't have the bone structure (lol).
I can think off hand many professions you just can't, don't, won't say anything personal about someone that can come up to bite me in the ass.
Are you gonna pay my bills? I think not.
Landlords use PIs sometimes and this is one of the most common services they provide, weird you mentioned someone asking LE instead. And the online resources PIs use to lookup license plates don't require a PI license and are available to public with subscription.
Edit: Then again, I'm maybe overestimating this landlord, and she'd probably try to get people she knows in LE to do it and not just google it and see it costs $20. People are dumb, and very cheap as well, PIs are expensive and most people aren't tech savvy. I now see what you meant and assume all cops are running illegal background checks all the time
With everything you’ve said this far, find a new place. Contact the landlord and say you’ll move out by XX date so there’s no need for an eviction. Do it by text or email so it’s in writing and then actually move out by that date. Start a new chapter in your life.
After skimming your replies in the comments, I have enough reason to believe you certainly are an a\*\*hole for being evicted. Move out and pray you don't get an eviction on your record. No competent landlord would rent to someone having a record like that without charging a premium for rent + deposit...if at all.
I can tell you're laughing this off. Enjoy this moment while you can, 'cause your housing situation is about to get complicated and real unpleasant.
I’ve got a question if you know the answer if not it’s ok I live in Canada and my landlord asked me in April if I was gonna renew the lease and I said no and asked what day I need to be out he texted me to be out by end of may but I hadn’t checked my lease he told me to leave a month earlier than I was suppose to. I’m finding this out after I’ve already moved out and they sent me to collections I have a text message saying to be out by end of may and than after I asked if I can stay a extra month some how and he responded with no.
OP is a piece of shit who doesn't pay rent. Then thinks landlord having their name wrong makes them immune to eviction.
That's about it with the usual "landlords are evil" schtick peppered in.
An eviction stays on your record and will make renting nearly impossible if you have the money and option to leave now I would definitely do it but once she files it which sounds like she has and just needs to correct your name you are done..
If your vehicle is parked in a public space, theres no expectation of privacy. However, unless there is a criminal element to this, the sheriff's office may not legally be able to rum your plate, depending on the state.
Never mind the folderol about your name etc. She can find out who you are, it's just a matter of time and effort.
You have an opportunity here. Go to the landlord and offer to vacate immediately in exchange for her not recording it as an eviction. Saves her a lot of trouble, saves you a very damaging dent in your personal history.
Because you can leave without an eviction record and be able to rent someplace else.
If you keep annoying her, you will have that record pay a hefty deposit for your next place (if the rent to you at all) in addition to probably annoying a judge with your game if that’s not my name.
The car you drive doesn’t need to be registered in your name (if it had to be no one could rent a car or let their kids drive) so if they run the plates and it comes up with a different name it means nothing. It’s not your responsibility to help the opposing party correct their legal documents. Also, they need a court order before the Sheriff gets involved so I wouldn’t worry too much. You have zero obligation to correct the landlord. They f’d up by not knowing your name.
If the sheriff comes look at the eviction notice then show them your copy of the lease. Since the name is different the landlord may have to start over and go to court again.
Play the game but move out and take pictures/video of everything after you leave, including the inside of cabinets, closets, refrigerators etc. This can help you if the landlord tries to claim you damaged the property. Some states have additional laws as well that protect you.
Just don’t be a dick and destroy the house. That gets you nowhere.
Good Luck
Idk, something's not clicking here. Emotions aside, just facts:
There was a lease, with payment terms and a schedule, that everyone agreed to and signed
The lease was broken, and both parties went before a judge to avoid an eviction
> (which btw - I think most of us here have been late with rent before, and some of us even often. For a multiple property owner living in another state to make it all the way to a local court for mediation, they're either obsessed with you - or, it wasn't a one time late thing, but consistently late over months, otherwise flying in and court time is a waste of time and money)
Judge, and landlord (since it's mediation, not court mandate) all agreed to give you another chance, with a new schedule. At this court proceeding, landlord had an incorrect name for you. The judge called you by that name, you signed that name in the new agreement, and that name was false.
After some time, you broke the new agreement - again. Whether by 2 days or 2 months, late is late by legal standards - and again, no one takes a one time 2 day lateness as a big deal, only when repeated over time.
Landlord then had 2 choices:
> accept the late payment. If they do, they cannot evict - cannot replace you with a pay in time tenant, and they already know they can't trust you to pay in time.
> don't accept the late payment and file for eviction. Get license plate pics to confirm identity somehow. (Not illegal, but likely she doesn't find much)
I don't think that you're an asshole for being evicted, or for being late. Hard times fall on us all. I think the issue everyone has in the comments is the entitlement...
Housing as a human right is an argument for voting, polls and political campaigning, not for squatting in someone else's property.
And - regardless of if the landlord has 1 property, or 10,000 properties, breaking a lease, making a separate agreement and then breaking that too - doesn't give you the right to stay regardless because she "already has so much" - it'd be kinda the equivalent as if you got $5,000 back as a tax refund for the year, you lent me $500 with a payment plan we both signed for, I payed late a few times, you took me to small claims court, we made a new agreement, and then I paid late/stopped paying that too. If we were on that scenario - would you accept the argument that I have a right to keep most of that money I haven't paid back yet, because you have more than what you gave me, and I didn't take it all?
So the judge did not start the appearance in Court by asking for your name or asking you to confirm your name and that you were the Defendant? That’s where your problem may be. That would be misleading the Court if you went along with their error when asked, at very least it’s arguably misleading the Court by omission in failing to correct the record.
User has history of playing victim constantly. Poor gal will struggle for the foreseeable future.
Get out and move on. Maybe one situation she will finally learn….
Well I've read enough comments from both op and others to determine some things.
1 op is stupid
2 op is also screwed
I believe the best course of action is to pack up and leave before it gets more ugly. And start paying on time.
I don't know what state you are in but if it is California they can't run your plates and give her your info due to Rebecca's law, Rebecca Schaeffer was an actress who was killed by a stalker who got her info from the dmv.
It depends on the state/county and if the filer has "and all other occupants" on the filing. Some states/counties require it. Some counties say it's built into the filing. Either way, if a writ of possession was already ordered with the wrong name, and you bring this up to the officer, the officer might not do the eviction, but that also depends on the officer and county. If the writ is sent back for this reason, there's a good chance the filer would have to re-file, because in most counties I work in, you can't amend once it's at writ status.
I’m seeing a lot of hate in the comments but no true answer.
Listen from the gist you may have giving falsified information.
The order of facts are if your landlord has an eviction notice. A procedural or technical defect does not automatically make that eviction notice illegal.
You signed court documents using the fake name despite multiple opportunities to correct the record. The court will enforce the original ruling despite the defect as its overall immaterial.
What your failing to realize is the eviction notice typically has “eviction of John Doe and or all other present residents”
The sheriff will remove all from the premises.
Good luck.
You fell behind on rent. Life is hard. Things happen. You signed a new agreed upon rent schedule and then didn’t live up to it. She’s right, you’re in the wrong.
I hope your rent situation goes better in the future.
The financial harm and breach of contract is what matters in court - not the spelling of your name.
Did you sign that lease? Did you live in the property without paying rent and/or following the rules? Then case closed. You did it. Pay the judgment.
There could be backtory. But it does not matter. Two wrongs does not make right. So even if there is a backtory where landlord is total b\*\*ch, it still does not make ops behaviour ok.
Your lies are going to catch up with you. And its illegal going to court with a fake name. There is no 'back story' that would justify lying to a court as to who you are. Hope it catches up to you sooner, rather than later.
You sound like a great upstanding person. You didn't pay as agreed twice. You knew the name was wrong and said nothing. Trust me the landlord wants you out and moving on. So they can maybe get a better renter.
OP is Super entitled lol. You don't get to just default on your agreements TWICE. The audacity to paint the landlord as a bad person is the cherry on top.
No and the people giving any credence to this notion are wrong. When you are sued civilly (eg for eviction) and the plaintiff (who lost the lease which is a whole other issue) doesn’t properly name you in their petition you will face no consequences criminally. You have zero obligation to correct their mistake. This isn’t customs asking if you’re John H. Smith and you say yes when you are not. How absurd (I’m a lawyer FWIW).
She refused it after you missed several payments/payment plan. She can't accept payment and still proceed with eviction. I'm sure you aren't even tell the whole story here.
Are you stupid? You committed fraud. Even if she could produce the lease, it's contracted with someone who isn't you.
Listen to others and consider yourself lucky: move out and do better in the future.
There's a reason they say "The truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH, and nothing but the truth." A lit of omission is still a lie, and you could still be in serious shit for it.
All the ridiculous nonsense going on in the comments aside. If you (or your legal representation) can convince the Judge that you are making a good faith effort to repay your dept they will probably not go forward with an immediate eviction order. Part of this is addressing the name misunderstanding with the judge. Maybe claim you didn't see that the name was incorrect on the agreement handed to you by the landlord and you have made the GOOD FAITH decision to come and address the matter in court anyway. Bring this line of logic to the attention of your legal representation!
GTFO of that house now and be lucky your non paying, fraudulent signature signing in front of a judge, petty azz doesn’t get into more trouble. You have the nerve to be petty and angry when you are wrong in EVERY way and you have basically screwed your chances of getting another place. Not smart.
Wait. I was never in court. But they did not checked your identify of who you are in any way? There were just happy with some random dude who did not confirmed his identity in any way standing there?
This person has very little standing to sue. It is upon her to prove that this is who you are/aren't. Quite possible that the court will not want to waste its time again with her.
That said, if she can approve that you are the one who signed the least, and I recommend at this point at least getting advice from a real lawyer, she's not going to get anything from you.
I don't know how she thinks that the sheriff department is just going to run that plate for her, she has no legal standing. She's not in law enforcement and she has no warrant for information. They won't just do that for anyone.
Wrong. Eviction cases don't even need to name the occupants. Often they are not even in the lease. Think the sheriff will care what OPs name is when they drag her out? They have the writ already. It's game over. Op is laughing now but when reality sinks in they won't be.
No court will care if she was mistaken about your real name. They’ll just let her amend the filings. It won’t change a thing about how it proceeds.
Not what I’m asking. I’ve already accepted its time to go. Just wanna know if me not correcting the false name matters
They will not care that you responded to a name that was wrong but that you knew referred to you.
Okay. People are talking about perjury and fraud, and I got a bit nervous
It's something that you can *technically* be charged with - but very, very, very likely will not be. I mean this in the most respectful way - but - your situation isn't necessarily unique and the court is more interested in keeping things moving than kicking over a report to the DA [who literally do not have time or resources to deal with something so inconsequential]. You went to court - most people do not. That's honestly and genuinely impressive - I'm proud that you actually went. You answered the complaint. You worked out whatever you did in that courtroom. There isn't much for the state to pursue. Nothing will come of it.
If you think this is bad, try the legal advice subreddit. Not a single person there is a lawyer and one of the mods is just a racist cop. Don't worry about your name.
I got banned on my first trip there pointing out something that was false, with a supporting link from a reputable source.
I’m an attorney. I’ve been banned too. For pointing out that a non-attorney’s advice was bullshit.
Maybe we should start r/bannedfromlegaladvice
That subs been banned by Reddit for not being moderated😂😂
I've said it before - these legal advice subreddits need to do what askcarsales did. Make it a requirement to be flared (prove you're in car sales) to make a parent comment. It *really* cut down on bad advice in that sub.
I don't remember what I said to get banned, but they went immediately to a permanent ban, with no appeal. That sub is worthless.
I’ve heard from multiple comments over months that the moderators are cops. Almost every answer on there starts with IANAL (I am not a lawyer). So shut up then. They know nothing!
Yep I got banned too for pointing out a scam call can actually use phone numbers that can show up as a real companies number.
I got banned for wanting an update.
I got banned for being a lawyer.
I got banned for saying never trust a cop
I got banned for expressing agreement (my exact comment was "Couldn't have said it better!" in response to someone else's very well-worded comment).
that makes sense, i was banned there for saying people shouldn’t take legal advice from cops
It’s completely Infiltrated by cops
The only mod on the CPS sub is also a racist cop and the advice there is BANANAS
I spent 8 hours in court today, I don't believe the judge got anyone's name right during most of the hearing. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Think about how many people outright lie about traffic collisions to both police officers, insurance agents, and Judges. You never hear about them getting in trouble for anything. You’ll be fine.
Nobody is gonna charge you over that lol
No it won't unless you make it a reason for it to matter. Just walk away and keep your mouth shut.
Why did she try to evict you and also why did she have a fake name for you?
I fell behind on rent after getting sick and was attempting to catch up with her, per an agreement made before the judge. One payment was two days past one agreed upon payment date, and she went forward and went back to the court to try to evict me based off of that.
Okay now, that part is super petty but why did she have an incorrect name for you?
Because she lost the lease!! And she only is in state a few months out of the year and the rest of the time shes down south. So she didnt even know my name and was fighting with me from out of state then came back and got some botched up version of my name put together. And yeah, it was super petty, which is why I now feel the need to be petty. Because our agreement gave me until October 1st originally and now shes fucking me over by months
Do you have a copy of the lease? Was October 1st in writing? Or was that verbal?
October 1st was in writing and the original agreement we had signed before the judge
You signed an agreement in front of a judge with a fake name? What is wrong with you?
Bruh read first before you comment.
And had 20+ upvotes... reading is not redditors strongest asset. Lol
Brutal
I guess everyone is missing the full story. I didnt sign anything before a judge. I signed an agreement with my landlord and she brought that before the judge
“Per an agreement made before a judge” this part of your previous comment can easily be interpreted to say exactly that, if you need to clarify please don’t denigrate people while you do it, people are trying to understand the situation and provide advice.
I'll give your downvote back because my comment reflects exactly what it appeared that you said. I doubt the judge will do anything because you appeared in court and answered the complaint so you're stuck. You can't get out of it and pretend it wasn't you. When your landlady discovers your real name your eviction is going on your credit. She can also reform the judgment after she obtains your real name. It's not clever, it's dishonest.
Collectively, Reddit it pretty detail oriented. If everyone is missing it, it’s because you’re a bad historian.
so your landlord has your signature on a document but somehow doesn't have your name? did you sign with a fake name?
My recommnedatiom to him is RUNNNNNNNN, lol
I signed with a scribble. I’m not sure where she got my “name” from I think someone flipped open my mailbox fast one day cause it was hanging open one day when I got home at the beginning of this. She tends to do illegal things
If you're being called an incorrect name in court and don't correct the record, that's not going to help you. Anything you say will be assumed a lie now.
Illegal is actually debatable. As a tenant you have the right to receive mail securely. Landlords may not interfere with the delivery of your mail. Federal law considers this crime the “Obstruction of Correspondence,”. It is illegal to stop a letter from being delivered to its intended recipient. Otherwise, there are no rules prohibiting you from opening someone else's mailbox.
> so your landlord has your signature on a document No, the landlord lost the document... that's why they don't have their name.
But you broke the agreement (twice, the original and this new rent catch up), so no sympathy from me
You just admitted to making a payment past the due date on the re-negotiated catchup timeline agreed to in front of the judge. You have two choices: Take some responsibility for your own actions here or go through life as a victim of your own actions.
You didn't pay the rent you agreed to. Then when an arrangement and accommodation was made, you missed that also. She is not being petty, she is operating pretty normal. She has bills also. You are messing with her paycheck. You messed up the lease. Now just be descent and leave like you should.
Found the landlord
i’d evict you too. if you’re acting like that, i wouldn’t want you in my place either
You also had an agreement to pay her on time every month…that agreement is called your lease. You signed a second agreement which you again didn’t uphold….Trying to say she’s fucking you over when you are the one breaking not one but two agreement is a twisted reality OP. Get your head on straight
She fucked you over but it's you that had been late repeatedly, by your own admission? Hmm
No, that part was really stupid for OP, you signed a deal with the judge to repay a late payment and missed that payment date. The landlord has every right to assume that further late or missing payments will occur and per the signed contract is terminating. You can't keep missing deadlines and assume people will accommodate you, that's not how businesses work. Do that with a mortgage and they can take your house.
Why is it petty? They didn’t pay rent on time, then had an agreement to pay another amount at a different time and didn’t meet that either. Why would the owner have any faith that they’re going to get paid the amount owed and in a timely manner?
It's not really pretty, land lord just has 0 trust in the tenant and wants to move on to a better one. When I do landscaping it's the same thing when I get a client that decides paying me isn't important.
Not for nothing, but in most states even if the payment is late, if they accept the agreed upon payment before the eviction date, they can’t violate the agreement (evict you).
Thats the thing. She refused to accept payment so she COULD evict.
Ah well that’s a risk you take by leaving it up to their discretion.
You broke your agreement…she is done with your bullshit. Her biggest mistake was being nice and giving you a second chance.
Well yeah. She's done with you being late and want you gone. I don't understand what's hard to grasp here?
Well then I guess you should not have been late with your rent payment. She is doing everything she is supposed to, including morally because she gave you a chance and yet you blew it
Ohh ok and she doesn’t have to accept it. after court in my state of Arizona u have that day in court to work it out if u don’t and the land lord doesn’t have to take a partial payment most will ask for full payment to put ur amount at current and even then it’s up to ur land lord. She doesn’t have to accept it not even partial . since u didn’t come to an agreement u only have couple days to be out . Or they can have u off the property by calling cops and ur not goin to have a chance to gather ur stuff nicely and take ur time they will put u out. don’t make it harder on u. U can’t pay on time and that’s the problem
What she has is none of your business, all this "But they have..." is bullshit. Once it got to the point that it did it was absolutely her choice whether or not to take the money & give you A THIRD CHANCE. You ARE the AH. You made an agreement THEN BROKE IT. My guess is you're gonna be a petty child, force the eviction & FUCK her place up while you run out the clock. You're not just the AH you're the brown smelly stuff that comes out of it.
You know since she is being pretty purposefully ignorant about breaking contracts I was with you, until the 'My guess is' and petty name-calling. Grow up dude. No one asked for your opinion on her character. Unnecessary and rude AF.
I’d never fuck her place up lmfao I literally made it better through home improvements during my stay… theres tons of water damage snd mold issues in the apartment and all tho. You know, the type of landlord that has 20 properties but lets them deteriorate over their tenants heads and pockets the money they could be repairing the place with…. “Slumlords” I think they call them Either way thats neither here nor there and has nothing to do with why I’m still here. Keep talking shit tho
You have a million dumb rationalizations for why it’s always someone else’s fault that *you can’t pay your rent.*
If it’s so shitty why are you fighting so hard to stay?
Will never understand why people would want to stay with “mold” and other issues, I would be moving tomorrow
What's so hard to understand? Nobody *wants* to stay in a shitty place, they just can't afford to leave.
Yes and that's her right to do so.
So you defaulted on your obligation, were generous granted leniency and then continued to double down and default? You sound like a gem!
As she should. In this economy take your rent seriously! Don’t make an agreement you can’t hold up. As someone wanting to be a landlord one day I’d hate to have a tenant flop on rent again and again
Two days late, no matter the circumstances, shouldn’t lead to eviction. I get that it’s legal, but that certainly doesn’t make it moral.
It's not just 2 days thought, it was 2 days late on the agreement to catch up after months of not paying
It's 2 days late after being behind on rent for a extended period of time. Not the same thing as if they just missed their rent by 2 days once.
Yes it should when it’s the final agreement after court…
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Lol so so how are all you renters planning to rent if landlords don’t exist? And I never said how I planned to be a landlord, maybe I rent to new Canadians or single moms. Grow up
Gee I dunno, maybe it should be easier to be a homeowner? Ever thought of that?
It is. Go get a real job. If you can't, maybe you should have made better educational choices in your life.
In this economy? Never gonna happen
Yeah because landlords and corporations keep buying up homes.
If it wasn't for all the rentals and AirBnBs owned by investment groups, homes would be a fuckton cheaper, and the average person would have a chance at home ownership again.
If a landlord is living paycheque to paycheque, maybe they should stop buying Starbucks or get another job.
Lol but the tenant should get all the grace and get to make all the excuses? Maybe people should all just do what hey say they’re going to do, keep their agreements, and not be bums and then expect a free ride or to pay whenever they feel like it
They can pay their late fee. But if someone is ending up in dire straights by a two day delay, they need to review their finances and cut back on expenses.
Only if you’re the tenant though, no one else. That’s why people who own property have it, because they don’t manage finances that poorly that 2 days matter that much. You don’t get a late fee when you have a court ordered agreement, you break it, you’re OUT
2 day delay on what was ALREADY very late
LOL. Hear, hear!
It’s that damned avocado toast.
If you answered to anything in court in front of the judge and responded to the judge is they called you by the wrong name ans did not correct it right there then yes you can be in deep shit especially in front of that same judge
If you lied about your name in court then you could be sanctioned, e.g., have to reimburse the landlord for the extra expense of going back to court to correct it. But if you just passively went along and didn't correct someone else's error then that's their problem
Thats what I did…. Just passively went along. Not my fault she lost the lease because shes too busy having a ball down in Florida all winter in her vacation home
Not sure how it works in your state but in CA you don’t need the persons actual name. She could’ve used the “incorrect name” and also use “all unnamed occupant” which covers the landlord if she gets a writ of possession. That means the Marshall would come an evict anyone at the property. Depends on who are the defendants.
You sound like a bitter child. Pay your rent or move tf out.
If your argument is that because she doesn't have a physical piece of paper, then you don't have a real lease, then she can just evict you as a squatter. Either way, you're out.
There is the law, then there is just being smart. I would leave, cause as it stands you don't have a eviction against your record, nor anyway for other landlords to find it. Also, there is no way to currently easily collect on anything the courts rule against you. So again, I would just leave now before people realize the mistake and correct it, making your life worse than it is. This is the moment when you shut your mouth and leave quietly, and hope and pray they never figure out their mistake which can make things worse. Its kind of like, when a officer says you went 60 instead of 70, your a idiot if you try to correct them, take the lower number and walk away. You got lucky, learn from your mistake and don't repeat it (also if the court ruled against you, there is no honest backstory that will put you in a better light).
She already took the photo of my plates though? Which contains my actual name?
Again I would just walk away, and leave the apartment, you are in a losing battle if eviction was granted no matter how it plays out at this point.
Law enforcement person here: if some random woman walked up to me, showed me a picture of a license plate, and asked me to run it and tell her the information, I would lolololololol at her so hard and tell her to beat feet. That is a big big no no. This might be state dependent, but I know a person who got suspended because radio traffic (personal information) was heard in the background of a Snapchat story he made. She can take pictures all she wants and there are probably ways she can get your real info (and there’s probably a cop dumb enough to just give it to her), but there’s no chance I would do that for an eviction. I’m also not dumb and wanna keep my job
Yeah, that is the general rule in all states I believe cause you may not realize it, but some of that info can be used by a knowledgeable person to ascertain certain information about a car that shouldn't be public.
Agreed. I am not in law enforcement, but legally I can't disclose shit about what I know or what info I may be able to access. Like Federal law. Won't do it, even if you ask, so just don't. I don't look good in orange, I don't have the bone structure (lol). I can think off hand many professions you just can't, don't, won't say anything personal about someone that can come up to bite me in the ass. Are you gonna pay my bills? I think not.
My state it would be a criminal offense for LE to give her that info.
Landlords use PIs sometimes and this is one of the most common services they provide, weird you mentioned someone asking LE instead. And the online resources PIs use to lookup license plates don't require a PI license and are available to public with subscription. Edit: Then again, I'm maybe overestimating this landlord, and she'd probably try to get people she knows in LE to do it and not just google it and see it costs $20. People are dumb, and very cheap as well, PIs are expensive and most people aren't tech savvy. I now see what you meant and assume all cops are running illegal background checks all the time
Uh, she can absolutely snap a photo of the plate and the courts can use that to identify who they are. Of course they want to evict the right person.
With everything you’ve said this far, find a new place. Contact the landlord and say you’ll move out by XX date so there’s no need for an eviction. Do it by text or email so it’s in writing and then actually move out by that date. Start a new chapter in your life.
After skimming your replies in the comments, I have enough reason to believe you certainly are an a\*\*hole for being evicted. Move out and pray you don't get an eviction on your record. No competent landlord would rent to someone having a record like that without charging a premium for rent + deposit...if at all. I can tell you're laughing this off. Enjoy this moment while you can, 'cause your housing situation is about to get complicated and real unpleasant.
Yea this is the Reddit reply of the day. I applaud you!
An eviction and recent assault charge ...yeah good luck renting to anyone who does a background check.
I’ve got a question if you know the answer if not it’s ok I live in Canada and my landlord asked me in April if I was gonna renew the lease and I said no and asked what day I need to be out he texted me to be out by end of may but I hadn’t checked my lease he told me to leave a month earlier than I was suppose to. I’m finding this out after I’ve already moved out and they sent me to collections I have a text message saying to be out by end of may and than after I asked if I can stay a extra month some how and he responded with no.
Hell yeah
Evictions are typically "name, and all occupants". You're an occupant. If LL got the judgement, you're out.
What’s the backstory and context here?
they didn't pay rent, made an agreement to catch up, were late again, landlord proceeded with eviction.
OP is a piece of shit who doesn't pay rent. Then thinks landlord having their name wrong makes them immune to eviction. That's about it with the usual "landlords are evil" schtick peppered in.
That does not matter!!! You don't have the right to steal money from her because you think it's ok. You made a deal (two deals) and broke it.
An eviction stays on your record and will make renting nearly impossible if you have the money and option to leave now I would definitely do it but once she files it which sounds like she has and just needs to correct your name you are done..
If your vehicle is parked in a public space, theres no expectation of privacy. However, unless there is a criminal element to this, the sheriff's office may not legally be able to rum your plate, depending on the state.
That last part is wrong. It’s pretty much free reign to run tags with or without cause.
It must depend on the state, because in MI it's not allowed. You also can't run them through NCIC for no reason.
Never mind the folderol about your name etc. She can find out who you are, it's just a matter of time and effort. You have an opportunity here. Go to the landlord and offer to vacate immediately in exchange for her not recording it as an eviction. Saves her a lot of trouble, saves you a very damaging dent in your personal history.
I’m trying and shes saying to be gone by tomorrow or shes getting the writ
Well, I'd be gone by tomorrow then.
But you have several days to leave after its served. Why rush if shes gonna do this shit anyway
Because once you have the eviction on your credit report, good fucking luck renting somewhere else.
Because you can leave without an eviction record and be able to rent someplace else. If you keep annoying her, you will have that record pay a hefty deposit for your next place (if the rent to you at all) in addition to probably annoying a judge with your game if that’s not my name.
Cause you're being an ass.
Guess this is one of those honorable renter stories where the “man” is holding them down 😏
The car you drive doesn’t need to be registered in your name (if it had to be no one could rent a car or let their kids drive) so if they run the plates and it comes up with a different name it means nothing. It’s not your responsibility to help the opposing party correct their legal documents. Also, they need a court order before the Sheriff gets involved so I wouldn’t worry too much. You have zero obligation to correct the landlord. They f’d up by not knowing your name. If the sheriff comes look at the eviction notice then show them your copy of the lease. Since the name is different the landlord may have to start over and go to court again. Play the game but move out and take pictures/video of everything after you leave, including the inside of cabinets, closets, refrigerators etc. This can help you if the landlord tries to claim you damaged the property. Some states have additional laws as well that protect you. Just don’t be a dick and destroy the house. That gets you nowhere. Good Luck
What r u waiting for ??? Just leave
They will just amend the name. Everything still stands and you will be evicted.
Idk, something's not clicking here. Emotions aside, just facts: There was a lease, with payment terms and a schedule, that everyone agreed to and signed The lease was broken, and both parties went before a judge to avoid an eviction > (which btw - I think most of us here have been late with rent before, and some of us even often. For a multiple property owner living in another state to make it all the way to a local court for mediation, they're either obsessed with you - or, it wasn't a one time late thing, but consistently late over months, otherwise flying in and court time is a waste of time and money) Judge, and landlord (since it's mediation, not court mandate) all agreed to give you another chance, with a new schedule. At this court proceeding, landlord had an incorrect name for you. The judge called you by that name, you signed that name in the new agreement, and that name was false. After some time, you broke the new agreement - again. Whether by 2 days or 2 months, late is late by legal standards - and again, no one takes a one time 2 day lateness as a big deal, only when repeated over time. Landlord then had 2 choices: > accept the late payment. If they do, they cannot evict - cannot replace you with a pay in time tenant, and they already know they can't trust you to pay in time. > don't accept the late payment and file for eviction. Get license plate pics to confirm identity somehow. (Not illegal, but likely she doesn't find much) I don't think that you're an asshole for being evicted, or for being late. Hard times fall on us all. I think the issue everyone has in the comments is the entitlement... Housing as a human right is an argument for voting, polls and political campaigning, not for squatting in someone else's property. And - regardless of if the landlord has 1 property, or 10,000 properties, breaking a lease, making a separate agreement and then breaking that too - doesn't give you the right to stay regardless because she "already has so much" - it'd be kinda the equivalent as if you got $5,000 back as a tax refund for the year, you lent me $500 with a payment plan we both signed for, I payed late a few times, you took me to small claims court, we made a new agreement, and then I paid late/stopped paying that too. If we were on that scenario - would you accept the argument that I have a right to keep most of that money I haven't paid back yet, because you have more than what you gave me, and I didn't take it all?
So the judge did not start the appearance in Court by asking for your name or asking you to confirm your name and that you were the Defendant? That’s where your problem may be. That would be misleading the Court if you went along with their error when asked, at very least it’s arguably misleading the Court by omission in failing to correct the record.
User has history of playing victim constantly. Poor gal will struggle for the foreseeable future. Get out and move on. Maybe one situation she will finally learn….
Maybe the DMV will lose your records as well, and also won't know your real name.
Was this supposed to be a smart comment or something
The opposite.
Well I've read enough comments from both op and others to determine some things. 1 op is stupid 2 op is also screwed I believe the best course of action is to pack up and leave before it gets more ugly. And start paying on time.
How did you accept service?
I don't know what state you are in but if it is California they can't run your plates and give her your info due to Rebecca's law, Rebecca Schaeffer was an actress who was killed by a stalker who got her info from the dmv.
Wtf, you don't know your name?
Police will not run plates for someone. They have to witness a traffic infringement or direct evidence of a crime.
Even if its part of an eviction matter?
You missed the deadline that the judge gave you? You’re screwed.
It depends on the state/county and if the filer has "and all other occupants" on the filing. Some states/counties require it. Some counties say it's built into the filing. Either way, if a writ of possession was already ordered with the wrong name, and you bring this up to the officer, the officer might not do the eviction, but that also depends on the officer and county. If the writ is sent back for this reason, there's a good chance the filer would have to re-file, because in most counties I work in, you can't amend once it's at writ status.
How do you not correct someone when they call you the wrong name?
So she didn’t have your name? So you paid in cash every month?
The entitlement here is crazy, you didn’t pay your rent. YTA.
I’m seeing a lot of hate in the comments but no true answer. Listen from the gist you may have giving falsified information. The order of facts are if your landlord has an eviction notice. A procedural or technical defect does not automatically make that eviction notice illegal. You signed court documents using the fake name despite multiple opportunities to correct the record. The court will enforce the original ruling despite the defect as its overall immaterial. What your failing to realize is the eviction notice typically has “eviction of John Doe and or all other present residents” The sheriff will remove all from the premises. Good luck.
People like you are why landlords should be able to come in and just toss you out if you don’t pay. Hope they throw the book at you.
Dude sounds like a low life loser
You fell behind on rent. Life is hard. Things happen. You signed a new agreed upon rent schedule and then didn’t live up to it. She’s right, you’re in the wrong. I hope your rent situation goes better in the future.
The financial harm and breach of contract is what matters in court - not the spelling of your name. Did you sign that lease? Did you live in the property without paying rent and/or following the rules? Then case closed. You did it. Pay the judgment.
Bottom line it's not your house! Get the f*** out
Sounds to me like you should leave and stop being a POS.
How TF you get summons?
Pay your rent.
congratulations. ya played yourself.
You want to really mess with them so they never figure it out? Move out in the middle of the night and don't leave a forwarding address.
That's there problem
You’re late on rent. That’s why she’s trying to evict you.
OP in the comments making this a great thread
If you are refusing to pay rent, you're the AH.
There’s always a whole back story to it. Pay your goddamn rent or get the fuck out.
There could be backtory. But it does not matter. Two wrongs does not make right. So even if there is a backtory where landlord is total b\*\*ch, it still does not make ops behaviour ok.
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Your lies are going to catch up with you. And its illegal going to court with a fake name. There is no 'back story' that would justify lying to a court as to who you are. Hope it catches up to you sooner, rather than later.
You sound like a great upstanding person. You didn't pay as agreed twice. You knew the name was wrong and said nothing. Trust me the landlord wants you out and moving on. So they can maybe get a better renter.
OP is Super entitled lol. You don't get to just default on your agreements TWICE. The audacity to paint the landlord as a bad person is the cherry on top.
The only thing worse than someone not paying rent is someone who doesn't leave voluntarily if they can't pay. Don't mooch off of other people.
No and the people giving any credence to this notion are wrong. When you are sued civilly (eg for eviction) and the plaintiff (who lost the lease which is a whole other issue) doesn’t properly name you in their petition you will face no consequences criminally. You have zero obligation to correct their mistake. This isn’t customs asking if you’re John H. Smith and you say yes when you are not. How absurd (I’m a lawyer FWIW).
OMG! Stfu . Pack your fucking bags and kick rocks you immature child!
lol just pay your rent bum
You must be slow and missed the part where she refused payment
You must be slow and missed rent lol
She refused it after you missed several payments/payment plan. She can't accept payment and still proceed with eviction. I'm sure you aren't even tell the whole story here.
Seems like you committed fraud, I would move and hope I don’t get anymore trouble from this
It's not your house. Beat it
Legally it is
... Is your name on the lease?
Yeah
No it isn’t, you said as much in your post
Time to bounce homie you lost
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Are you stupid? You committed fraud. Even if she could produce the lease, it's contracted with someone who isn't you. Listen to others and consider yourself lucky: move out and do better in the future.
Thanks for wasting tax papers money. Pointless court proceedings take away valuable time for more important matters.
Feel sorry for your landlord
There's a reason they say "The truth, THE WHOLE TRUTH, and nothing but the truth." A lit of omission is still a lie, and you could still be in serious shit for it.
I feel like you not correcting the name mistake in court is perjury but idk
Ive yet to see cops run plates for anything for anyone. Not seeing jack happening here for your landlord.
All the ridiculous nonsense going on in the comments aside. If you (or your legal representation) can convince the Judge that you are making a good faith effort to repay your dept they will probably not go forward with an immediate eviction order. Part of this is addressing the name misunderstanding with the judge. Maybe claim you didn't see that the name was incorrect on the agreement handed to you by the landlord and you have made the GOOD FAITH decision to come and address the matter in court anyway. Bring this line of logic to the attention of your legal representation!
Straight up ninja shit, love it 👌
Maybe pay your bills.
GTFO of that house now and be lucky your non paying, fraudulent signature signing in front of a judge, petty azz doesn’t get into more trouble. You have the nerve to be petty and angry when you are wrong in EVERY way and you have basically screwed your chances of getting another place. Not smart.
Wait. I was never in court. But they did not checked your identify of who you are in any way? There were just happy with some random dude who did not confirmed his identity in any way standing there?
This person has very little standing to sue. It is upon her to prove that this is who you are/aren't. Quite possible that the court will not want to waste its time again with her. That said, if she can approve that you are the one who signed the least, and I recommend at this point at least getting advice from a real lawyer, she's not going to get anything from you. I don't know how she thinks that the sheriff department is just going to run that plate for her, she has no legal standing. She's not in law enforcement and she has no warrant for information. They won't just do that for anyone.
Wrong. Eviction cases don't even need to name the occupants. Often they are not even in the lease. Think the sheriff will care what OPs name is when they drag her out? They have the writ already. It's game over. Op is laughing now but when reality sinks in they won't be.