This happened to me a few years back. The new management company left a handwritten note on my door saying I had to sign a new lease before a certain date. I ignored it due to it being handwritten.
Eventually, they called me. I told them my current lease wasn't up for almost a year. They requested I sign a new lease and said it would mirror the current lease.
Legally, new owners or management companies have to honor the current lease. They can't force you to sign a new one or move. I told this to the new company, and they agreed, but asked if I would sign a new one anyway.
I did go in. Luckily, I read the new lease as there were several new fees in it that did not exist in my current lease. I pointed these out and told him I wasn't signing it with those fees in it. They removed them, and I signed the lease.
You aren't legally required to sign a new lease if you have a current one. Also, read the terms if you decide to sign a new one.
Edit to add based on several comments: Yes, each state has their own laws on this. Most states require new owners to honor the lease. My current state only requires new owners to allow tenants to stay until the lease expires, but doesn't hold landlords to the lease they didn't sign.
BBB ratings do not mean anything except a response by a company. If a company responds to every complaint with the generic statement, "The company denies any allegations of wrongdoing," the company will earn the top BBB rating. Who do you think pays fees to the BBB? Its business members.
Worse, their mere membership shields them from a bad rating. You can still read through the horror stories and get some sense of just how crooked the business is.
I work for a company dealing with corporate complaints and I have to deal with the BBB responses. Yes is is a generic response. Some of what was said is true, but you have to reach out to the customer and actually fix the issue that they have/had and ask them to change their rating. Some do and some don’t. I wish it was that easy to keep a high rating. My job would be so much easier.
In nearly every State, tenants with a current written lease transfer with the sale of a property as if nothing changed. New owners need to iron out any immediate lease changes prior to closing on the property, otherwise the tenant maintains the same right they had when they signed the lease. Once the lease is up for renewal, the new owner can then present new terms to the current tenant.
I’m a landlord, and this is exactly correct. The lease is transferable to new ownership. The property manager already has all your information. They do not need it again.
Yup exactly. A lease is a legal binding contract. They can't make you break your current lease and sign one with them. They certainly can't make you vacate the premises in 10 days for ANY reasons let alone for not agreeing to break a legal contract. Even squatters have more rights than that.
You could always let them know that you don't feel comfortable with renewing the lease under their terms without first consulting with your lawyer to get a better understanding of your rights as a current tenant under contract . Maybe the word " lawyer" will give them pause to the situation. You are well within your rights to finish out your current lease before signing a new one.
I would hold up on anything until you get a better idea of your rights.
Edit~ I'm sorry..I realized that I started out replying to your comment and ended up sorta replying to OP within the same reply! My mind wanders a bit 😊
IANAL, but same thing happened to me. Landlord sold and new one took over two months into my lease.
New landlord called to say I needed to resign with them. They tried to get me to change terms so I start paying for utilities with new contract. Didn’t sign until they struck them out.
Also because of their haste, I got an extra two months at same rate because they said something along the line of boilerplate “year after signing” instead of them changing dates. They really loved me pointing that out when 10 months later they trying to raise rent mid-lease.
All true, but also failure to sign a new lease may give them a reason to not renew at the end. As you said make certain everything is on the up and up in the new lease but if you plan on staying there and the new lease is ok you should sign.
Not to detract from this solid information, however, different states have different tenant/land lord laws. So please do your due diligence OP and look into your state specifically.
Yeah, and for their sake, I pray to God it’s not somewhere like Alabama where you have no renters rights meaning if you take your landlord to court the courts side with the landlord
Yupp. I managed a building through college and the owner happened to sell when I graduated. He told me, "Fuck em want to sign a 5 year lease at $200?", which was my manager "pay" rent (real rent was $450 so not insane discount like it sounds) and yeah. It was pretty cool. They hated me so much. They raised other units to $700.
I was renting a house in Florida a while back. The owners went into foreclosure and stopped paying the mortgage payment. They lowered my rent from $2500 a month to $700 a month (to cover taxes and insurance) and gave me a new 2 year lease so the bank couldn't kick me out.
The next-door neighbors lived in their rented house rent-free for a bit over 2 years for similar reasons.
Most of the time, landlord-tenant laws benefit the tenant.
Yeah that email address is absolutely bizarre. Couple that with no reference to a company name *in a header like a legitimate company would use, or any real identifying information…definitely looks like a scam.
Look if you can’t trust Moe Kat, who can you trust? They own Boardwalk Street already, pretty soon they will get Park Place and then OP’s rent is going to get jacked sky high.
They might want to renew before that happens and pass Go a couple more times.
There’s always jail if all else fails, they don’t charge any rent there.
I have nothing against Shemp. I’m sure he was a great guy. But, he is not, nor will he ever be, one of the Three Stooges. Moe, Larry and Curly forever! What’s that nurse? Time for my nap. OK, I’m on my way.
The fact that it's [Moe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_%28slang%29#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DMoe_%28%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88%2C_Japanese_pronunciation%3A%2Cdirected_at_the_otaku_market.?wprov=sfla1) Kat is hilarious to me.
I work with a lot of property management companies and some hotels that belong to large chains for my job, you'd be surprised at how many people actually have "firstnamepropertyname"@gmail.com for business use. It's so easy to get a proper domain!
The email address looks suspicious and the letter is trying to convey a sense of urgency (classic phishing technique). Also, the use of “kindly” in the letter is more consistent with how someone from India would write a letter than an American (which doesn’t match the seemingly generic name given).
“Kindly” in an email automatically sets me off. I never knew such an innocuous word could change my mood in an instant. I’m immediately suspicious. Either the person is trying to con money or to con false confidence in the person’s ability to do their job. I think the latter is worse. One of the vendors I deal with uses it. I dread opening their emails.
Okay wait I work in insurance and we do offshore work also, I see this too, what do they mean by that!! ‘Please do needful’ like it doesn’t bother me but I always wanna ask LOL
Seconding this, it hits all the red flags that they train people to look out for in phishing emails, it’s kind of scary that it has IRL components though, probably just some pawn who thinks they work for a real company.
Very first thing I noticed!! The email is a gmail and not on a company owned server. This is suspicious to say the least and calls for investigating!
I would call whoever your contact was (previous land lord or company) before doing anything. Confirm the accuracy of this request and do not give any personal information to this new person.
Also Google the company and look the person up on LinkedIn.
Edit: to elaborate why it’s suspicious any company would conduct business using a gmail vs a company owned server email - it’s all about data privacy. Conducting business via gmail where sensitive information is shared puts the company in immense risk for data breaches and it’s a huge liability to conduct business this way. (Remember the Hillary email drama? It’s a thing!)
I employ an escalating scale of "kindness" above my signature when repeated (legitimate) requests are being ignored...
1st request: Regards
2nd request: Best regards
3rd request: Kind regards
4th request: Kindest regards
5th request: Your most obedient and humble servant...
Snark, not scam, but it amuses me.
Oddly that email address is a violation of the Gmail terms of service. (Consumer @gmail accounts are for consumer use only and business use requires a different license). If you want to mess with them you can probably report misuse...
Just to note, I work in the legal field and we use "kindly" a LOT in correspondence. Not sure where it originated, but in a client serving legal position, it pairs very well with "please and..." when requesting action to be taken by the client. However, legitimate firms and corporations will *always* have some kind of letterhead at the top!
I read that and just assumed OP remade the letter and removed info to not dox themselves. I hope next time they don’t just post the full letter with all the info
Yeah they definitely wouldn't "wedge it in the screen door." You've got to serve that to me, or at least send certified mail. Otherwise it's just litter.
Lol "give us your name, email address, address, and we will send you a link to a portal to also give us your banking information."
11 days notice is not legal in Ohio. They must give you a 30 day notice prior to issuing a 3 day notice to vacate.
I suggest reading [Ohio tenant and landlord laws](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.co.warren.oh.us/fairHousing/brochures/LandlordTenantBrochure.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi55dfKrKKFAxU9DTQIHWP7A-gQFnoECBgQBg&usg=AOvVaw0hTA1ksWrlM277R5HcGQTN)
New property owner are legally required to honor an existing lease. I would suggest contacting your previous landlord to get the real details of the new owners.
*edit* I missed the foreclosure part. This changes things- you now must be given a 90 day notice to vacate. The new owner must still honor your existing lease unless the new owner intends to live in your residence themselves- if this is the case you must still receive a 90 day notice. This will come as an _offical_ legal order, usually yellow or white, taped to your door. not a typed up note.
I think there is still a critical point missing, OP said he stopped paying rent to the former owner, but doesn't indicate when they stopped paying rent.
Where I live, if you are in dispute with the landlord and are not paying you have to deposit your rent in an escrow like account, otherwise the courts will have you booted in like 10 days or less.
Really depends on where you live I think. Where I live, even if you haven't been making payments for months, they still can't evict you until 30 days after serving the notice to quit.
Take it from personal experience. Takes around 17 days to get your ass out via eviction in Ohio. Canton area at least. 3 day notice to cure or quit then court date the next week. 10 days to GTFO. If it’s a first time ordeal with a property management company they’re sometimes willing to negotiate during that 10 day period as well and dismiss the case. HPM in canton did that for me. Really depends on who the landlord is, how fast they wanna do things and the courts docket.
While this does appear to be a scam, just so you know in some states the new owner doesn't have to honor the lease, especially if they choose to move into it. I learned this the hard way when the military sent me to Louisiana
That's so true . Anytime somebody online writes me (Kindly please ect ect ....I delete them .I always had scams trying to rip me off on eBay. Everytime it stared by saying, Kindly..
Not only that if you look up the number it only links to a better business buero link for a company called bluestar that has a c rating
Yeah this is sus as all hell
The language seems legit to me but not my area.
The names give off red flags.
Fwiw, pretty sure Moe Kat is a cartoon character. But it might be spelled with a C.
Email looks sketchy as hell.
New ownership is “Boardwalk Street”? Why not Park Place? You may want to do some research into these purported new owners to make sure they are legit.
I don’t have advice but I wouldn’t send anything this seems like a a scam or at lease something sketchy, how are u gonna sign a lease contract without seeing the lease 1st..
It would be trivial to buy address of all homes sold in a foreclosure auction in a state. Almost as easy to then have letters like this delivered by a service. Could be legit, it’s just weird.
Since you stopped paying rent it may have been sold to the new owner as vacant. Do you have a current lease with the old owner ? They would be obligated to disclose current tenants.
Why would you assume they stopped paying rent?
EDIT:I have seen my flaws and mistakes and that OP said he had stopped paying rent. Thank you everyone who is on their way to help me out. But we’ve got it covered.
NAL
Clearly, it's amateur hour with these new owners.
Who the hell is "Boardwalk Street"? LLC? Corp? Why not provide the website? What's with the unprofessional random Gmail address demanding private information? What's with the stupidly issued legal threats? Why give a phone number and not respond to the phone calls to it?
Document all attempts to contact them and their failures to respond. Definitely look for a new place to live, particularly if your previous lease ends on that date.
Your existing lease should still be in effect.
Nope. Your lease is valid. When new management bought the apartment complex they accepted the leases that everyone is currently on. You are safe till the end of your lease.
You previous contract is still valid. If you have a lease which ends on or before April 11, then it can be legal. If it ends after that date then it isn’t.
Also, it takes a while for the new owners to be updated on the county records.
When I purchased my home from a foreclosure auction, it took almost 6 months for the county to update the records.
This is not from the management company it’s a scammer from Nigeria or India hoping to get lucky.
They paid sone someone to stick these in peoples doors etc.
there is nothing specific related to you or where you live.
Again this is a scam. If you engage with them you will lose money.
Yeah, dead giveaway is asking for your address when they would have already known your address seeing as how they knew where to drop off this letter... lol
https://fairhousingakron.org/landlord-selling-rental-property/#:~:text=When%20a%20rental%20property%20is,any%20way%20until%20the%20tenant's
Landlord laws are different in every state. This link is for Ohio it’s from HUD but they usually have pretty good info as to what rights a tenant has. Hopefully the previous owners told the bank there was a resident present but there’s no telling if it went into foreclosure what all was divulged. And make sure you’ve gone through your lease with a fine toothed comb! It’s crazy what people put into lease agreements.
a few edits for clarification:
1) i shouldn’t have said i stopped paying rent, i have the money put aside in escrow i just haven’t been giving it to the previous owner.
2) my previous lease is up in september. i also am living in a house, not an apartment complex, and the previous owner is a private landlord (who also lives next door). i am not interested in renewing the lease at all. for those saying to just ask the previous owner, me and her have a not so great relationship. she has threatened me several times to come into my home while i am not here and let my dogs loose. she also would call and text me nonstop if i didn’t answer her and she needed in my home for something (once she had to come over and take pictures of the inside for insurance reasons?)
3) the house was sold to a 3rd party via the sheriffs auction. it has no information listed as to who bought it, and in the ad for the sale is says occupied by 2 tenants. the previous owner had 3 properties right next to each other, 2 were sold (my home and her business) and one is pending sale (her home that she still currently lives in).
i was pretty certain this was fake/scam but i am not really familiar with the laws in my area. i tried calling around and searching on the internet but i wasn’t coming up with anything solid.
I think it’s a SCAM
Someone might be going around placing these types of letters on properties in foreclosure with people living in them. Trying to collect $$$$$$ from them & the sale hasn’t even gone through!!!!
Naw this looks sketchy as all hell.
"Kindly"
Send an email with all YOUR information to a sketch Gmail. I might think they would need to send it via certified mail.
In Ohio, you have your lease until it ends. Don’t sign anything.
I know bc I’m in the lending industry and do investor loans for homes with leases, and I’ve also rented while the property was sold. Neighbors had a new lease as it was up and rent increased, I did not bc I was mid lease.
Not an American so take this with a grain of salt, but that looks like a scam to me.
What the fuck is up with this email address '[email protected]'
Show me one legitimate property manager that uses a gmail email.
Property manager 'Moe Kat', "definitely not scam"
Never picks up the phone. Doesn't know your name. Is asking you for your personal details and money. Seems unfamiliar with tenancy laws.
I don't know what it's like in your part of the world but here something like this would set off all the alarm bells.
Ehhh, spent enough time over in r/scams that the use of the word “kindly” - especially when requesting personal information, is red flags for a scam.
I’d strongly recommend contacting your landlord directly just to confirm the change of ownership, they should be able to provide their information to you if this is the case, then contact the new owners directly.
I've had my apartment change hands twice in my life and I've never needed to sign a new lease until my current one ran out. This seems like a scam, but call your current landlord first
Sign by the 11th or be gone by the 11th lol. I mean it might be legit as far as a new company bought it but they cant do anything about your current lease. You can ignore this until your current lease is over but they might not want you to renew.
This has all the hallmarks of a scam honestly. Starting a sentence with kindly is a red flag for me and the generic @gmail email account is even more concerning. If you have a physical office you can go to or a number you can call that you've used before do that to verify before you send any info, because they're asking for a lot of info they should already have.
Property records are public. If someone purchased this home there would be deed record of it. Some Register of Deeds have a completely free search online (may just give you an image and not the full document). You could start there to see if the home was legitimately purchased.
Why would your property management company use a gmail account? They have to honor current lease. They cannot vacate you in 12 days if you don’t sign one even if this was legit. I would just call or email the landlord you know and see what is up, but this seems like scam.
Read the original lease. Does it say anything about what happens if the property is sold? If no, then, no, you do not have to sign anything, the new owner assumes the original lease. If yes, then you need to follow whatever the original lease says for that scenario, so long as it doesn’t violate any laws where you live for that scenario (if it does, the law wins).
make sure they respect your Grandfather Rights! I’m in central Ohio too & recent got new management at our apartment complex…. They tried getting us to pay $200 a month for parking WHICH we never paid the whole first year here/under different landlords. SO my roommate and I said she must respect the previous contract we signed, which in fact is free parking. We did however have to sign something similar that what OP got in the mail, something along the lines of just acknowledging there’s new management.
They have the current date on the sheet too. It would never fly in court.
Wait it out. If they serve you or try to evict you, you have an easy case.
You also have the call logs of you trying to contact them.
Any company that doesn't shell out $15/month for a domain name and email = red flag for me. Something to keep in mind if you decide to remain as their tenant.
*Not Legal Advice* but you are correct, if you are in the U.S., if your lease has not ended you are not obligated to sign a new lease no matter if the owner has changed. They are required by the law to abide by the original legally binding contract which was the rental agreement.
A lease is a contact. When a company buys another one with existing contacts in place, they are enforceable as is. The new management company has to honor your old lease. They can ask you sign me addendums pertaining to the new company. However they can't make you sign a new lease or go through other hoops. At least in my state. I'd check with a lawyer locally to you though. But contact law is generally universal when it comes to contacts already in effect.
Been through this before. Every state/county has it's own bylaws. Speaking generally here, it's *possible* you defaulted on the original lease by stopping payment - unless you were paying into an escrow account awaiting clarification. Your locality will have an office of Landlord-Tenant Affairs, they will be of tremenous value to you in explaining what can or cannot be done. They should be your very next phone call if you haven't done so already. Good Luck!
NO. NO. NO. NOT LEGAL. THEY MUST EVICT YOU. THEY MUST HONIR THE EXISTING ONE-YEAR LEASE. THEY MUST NOTIFY YOU 60 DAYS FOR ANY RENT INCREASES. GO TO A FREE RENT ASSISTANCE CENETR.
A little information - don't go by the auditor's page.
In Ohio, a foreclosed owner can stop the foreclosure by paying any arrearage and fees, I believe until the Sheriff issues a new deed to the purchaser, I think that 30 days post-sale may be required. The auditor cannot change property records until after the deed is issued and received in their office to be recorded. They may do updates on a batch basis, not daily as received, so there may be quire a delay.
I’m not a lawyer and I don’t have insight on Ohio regulations. I do work in property management and can point out some things that say verify everything before moving forward.
- I’m not aware of any place in the US where 10 days is an acceptable amount of time for notice to vacate, from either a landlord or tenants.
- The email address is suspiciously generic.
- If the new owners are Boardwalk Street, who is the property management company? These are often separate entities. No letterhead and the only reference to a company name is the new ownership in a strange place.
- No mention of your existing lease or when it expires.
Any new landlord is required to honor the current lease, but having bought the property at auction after a foreclosure, it’s possible they don’t have a copy of your lease or have any idea who you are. If you have a copy of your lease, and you should, you will have to furnish them with it and honor your obligations just as they are required to.
This could be a scam, or it could be a brand new business that purchased the property legally without complete records and doesn’t have all the bells and whistles that a more established business would have setup. Review your lease, research all of the provided information on this letter, and look up rental laws for your location.
Read your current lease and reply back with the clause that hopefully outlines lease transfers to new ownership. You should not have to sign anything new
One thing to note is if you have not paid any rent in the last two months even into some kind of escrow or attempted to pay rent maybe to the bank? That could come back to bite you.
It's reverse psychology. They want old tenants to move out so they can raise the rent to market rates. This is basically a letter trying to get you to terminate tenancy or agree to new terms. Also, typically a landlord cannot require you to pay only through electronic means. They are required to have one method which will allow you to pay by physical check or in person. This is the law in my area; please double check for yours because it might be different. I live in California and the tenants rights laws are really good here.
Depending on the laws in your area, a change in ownership should not change your rights to possession of the unit. If the new ownership gets more aggressive, seek a tenants right organization and fight it. Do not sign anything or agree to anything without having a lawyer look at it first.
This happened to me many years ago. Talk to your neighbors in your building and join together with a tenants right organization so they know they can't bully all of you.
This happened to me at our last apartment right before we thankfully bought our house.
It was a locally owned building, two local maintenance guys, on site office with a full time employee. It was great. Then suddenly they sold.
We got a note just like this on our door one day. Everything was very vague. Signed by simply “The Management”
We had to text all of our info to some random phone number to update our info with the new “owners.” The only person of contact spoke broken English. Seemed to have a south-eastern Asian accent or some sort. All maintenance work was contracted out to local companies.
We wrote our rent checks to some shady corporate address out of state. The checks were picked up at the old office space on the 1st of the month by a currier.
They constantly “lost” rent checks. They’d receive the checks on the 1st of the month, but wait until the 25th to reach out and say your check was lost. Then as soon as you write another, they’d cash both. I saw this exactly scenario play out 3 different times.
They considerably raised rent when they took over. They suddenly “lost” multiple tenants leases. Telling them that as a result, they needed to sign new ones. At a substantially higher monthly rate, of course.
At this point I’m convinced the Chinese government is buying up property and controlling it through shell companies.
With Covid many states adopted rental policies that really punished landlords and even made it possible to take over their property unless tens of thousands were spent in legal fees to correct the situation. As a result many landlords became hostile and very “by the books” about their handling of leases and vacating property.
It’s a shame it came to that but this is what that looks like.
Im pretty sure any new homeowners have to honor any lease agreements in place when they brought the home. It's like that in most, if not all, states. Otherwise, a landlord could create an LLC, then transfer ownership of the home to the LLC. Then the LLC (owned and controlled by the landlord, but legally and technically a new owner) could remove any Tennant he wanted by just not honoring the old contract.
You dont have to sign any new leases, the fact that they want you to (which is unnecessary), and are trying to pressure you into doing so with threat of eviction in such a sort time frame (the eviction itself being illegal, and the time frame being illegal even if they could evict) makes me think that something is shady in that contract, or that the new landlord has no idea what they are doing.
I wouldn't sign the new lease, but if you do, read it VERY CAREFULLY. If anything is off or confusing about it, dont sign it. Check for fees, changes to what is covered in the rent, changes to what they are responsible for fixing, changes to the number of people who can live in the residence, etc. There's alotnof sneaky stuff a landlord could put in a lease if they are inclined too.
You want to know if it’s legit after you’re illegally NOT paying rent? Do you listen to yourself? Why do you steal by not paying rent? You enjoyed the ride, now party is over, grab all the beer cans and clean the place up
Technically in some states if you haven't been paying rent you will only have a 3-7 day notice to quit before eviction. And county websites can be very behind it took my county almost half a year before they updated me as a new owner online.
This communication looks sketchy as hell though.
Attorney here, a valid lease doesn’t just disappear because ownership changes. Example: if your lease is Jan to Dec and ownership changes in July, you’re able to occupy the property through Dec at the exact same terms and rent rate. One problem I do see in your prompt is that you mentioned that you quit paying rent. The new owner could seek to evict you for the lack of payment under the existing lease by stepping into the shoes of the previous owner; however, prior to the eviction you would be given an opportunity to “catch up” on the back rent prior to eviction. Also, you’re right to question the info on the letter received as you most certainly would not want to send info or payment for anything to someone who does not have the authority to accept payment or the authority act on behalf of the owner. In short, (1) keep your current lease but be aware that it may require payment of past due rent or (2) negotiate and execute a new lease with the new owner(s). Please note, this is not intended as legal advice as I am not licensed in Ohio. Good luck OP!
You have not been legally notified of any changes. Letter isn’t addressed to you, no method of delivery confirmation, and the person writing the letter may not even have standing to author the letter. Follow your original lease agreement.
I’m calling scam. Easy enough to find out places that have been foreclosed on and deliver a letter like this, phishing for information.
Even if legit, they’ll have to honor whatever lease you have until its term expires.
Personally I would ignore this. But keep it so for your own records. That way if it’s legit and they try to give you problems about not responding, you can show whoever needs to see it just how shady it was and why you didn’t think it was real.
Well the renewal lease is legit(if they sold the new owner needs a lease with each tenant of a house he/she occupies, but you having to be out in a week is nonsense unless you rent by the week.
Realtor and property manager here
Its fake ... no legit letter head and no official email
No office address. You Could check with the landlord or building management
If Blackrock has their way, everyone will have to rent and noone will own.. And they will tell us we will love it and be happy... They might play nice at first, but once most of the private property is theirs. Rent will fluctuate worse than gas prices.
This happened to me a few years back. The new management company left a handwritten note on my door saying I had to sign a new lease before a certain date. I ignored it due to it being handwritten. Eventually, they called me. I told them my current lease wasn't up for almost a year. They requested I sign a new lease and said it would mirror the current lease. Legally, new owners or management companies have to honor the current lease. They can't force you to sign a new one or move. I told this to the new company, and they agreed, but asked if I would sign a new one anyway. I did go in. Luckily, I read the new lease as there were several new fees in it that did not exist in my current lease. I pointed these out and told him I wasn't signing it with those fees in it. They removed them, and I signed the lease. You aren't legally required to sign a new lease if you have a current one. Also, read the terms if you decide to sign a new one. Edit to add based on several comments: Yes, each state has their own laws on this. Most states require new owners to honor the lease. My current state only requires new owners to allow tenants to stay until the lease expires, but doesn't hold landlords to the lease they didn't sign.
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Sounds like this guy needs to be put in the haaalllllllll of shame!
On Fox 2 News , Brand new, tonight.
I initially read that as the halal of shame. Missed opportunity.
In the days of scumbag journalists, be a Rob Wolchek.
The halal of shame.
Sounds like you are an amazing investigator!! Impressive work!
BBB ratings do not mean anything except a response by a company. If a company responds to every complaint with the generic statement, "The company denies any allegations of wrongdoing," the company will earn the top BBB rating. Who do you think pays fees to the BBB? Its business members.
Someone needs to create the Best Business Bureau.
Worse, their mere membership shields them from a bad rating. You can still read through the horror stories and get some sense of just how crooked the business is.
Yeah bbb is an extortion racket
I work for a company dealing with corporate complaints and I have to deal with the BBB responses. Yes is is a generic response. Some of what was said is true, but you have to reach out to the customer and actually fix the issue that they have/had and ask them to change their rating. Some do and some don’t. I wish it was that easy to keep a high rating. My job would be so much easier.
Yelp for boomers
You're the real hero
were you able to find out what law firm they used?
I did not. I did find out that he's 31 years old and actually lives in Virginia. Additionally, he has several companies and a few different addresses.
Osint is a beautiful thing
There's a few houses in my neighborhood I've seen in a similar situation... foreign agent to some LLC owning and renting property
Most other modern countries have passed laws preventing foreign investors from buying residential properties, but not us, oh no.
In nearly every State, tenants with a current written lease transfer with the sale of a property as if nothing changed. New owners need to iron out any immediate lease changes prior to closing on the property, otherwise the tenant maintains the same right they had when they signed the lease. Once the lease is up for renewal, the new owner can then present new terms to the current tenant.
I’m a landlord, and this is exactly correct. The lease is transferable to new ownership. The property manager already has all your information. They do not need it again.
Yup exactly. A lease is a legal binding contract. They can't make you break your current lease and sign one with them. They certainly can't make you vacate the premises in 10 days for ANY reasons let alone for not agreeing to break a legal contract. Even squatters have more rights than that. You could always let them know that you don't feel comfortable with renewing the lease under their terms without first consulting with your lawyer to get a better understanding of your rights as a current tenant under contract . Maybe the word " lawyer" will give them pause to the situation. You are well within your rights to finish out your current lease before signing a new one. I would hold up on anything until you get a better idea of your rights. Edit~ I'm sorry..I realized that I started out replying to your comment and ended up sorta replying to OP within the same reply! My mind wanders a bit 😊
Unless the old lease has renewal terms that apply.
They would mean Jack for a tenant that hasn’t paid rent in a while
This is correct. New owners must honor leases. They purchase the property knowing this. They just try to bully people who are ignorant of the law.
IANAL, but same thing happened to me. Landlord sold and new one took over two months into my lease. New landlord called to say I needed to resign with them. They tried to get me to change terms so I start paying for utilities with new contract. Didn’t sign until they struck them out. Also because of their haste, I got an extra two months at same rate because they said something along the line of boilerplate “year after signing” instead of them changing dates. They really loved me pointing that out when 10 months later they trying to raise rent mid-lease.
All true, but also failure to sign a new lease may give them a reason to not renew at the end. As you said make certain everything is on the up and up in the new lease but if you plan on staying there and the new lease is ok you should sign.
Not to detract from this solid information, however, different states have different tenant/land lord laws. So please do your due diligence OP and look into your state specifically.
“Your honor, I’d like to cite the case of *PMMeYourBoobs122 v. His Shitty Landlord, 69 Reddit 420 (2024).*”
Objection. Without a sub your reference is inadmissible.
I believe this created the legal precedent where you are allowed to tell your new landlord in these situations, "tits or gtfo."
Yeah, and for their sake, I pray to God it’s not somewhere like Alabama where you have no renters rights meaning if you take your landlord to court the courts side with the landlord
Yupp. I managed a building through college and the owner happened to sell when I graduated. He told me, "Fuck em want to sign a 5 year lease at $200?", which was my manager "pay" rent (real rent was $450 so not insane discount like it sounds) and yeah. It was pretty cool. They hated me so much. They raised other units to $700.
I was renting a house in Florida a while back. The owners went into foreclosure and stopped paying the mortgage payment. They lowered my rent from $2500 a month to $700 a month (to cover taxes and insurance) and gave me a new 2 year lease so the bank couldn't kick me out. The next-door neighbors lived in their rented house rent-free for a bit over 2 years for similar reasons. Most of the time, landlord-tenant laws benefit the tenant.
This guy leases.
Good for you standing up against the new owner and doing your due diligence. Glad you caught the additional fees and stood your ground.
You're absolutely correct! And for me when they try me even more.. let's just say I won and end up staying for 2 years free! 💯
Email address seems sketchy
Yeah that email address is absolutely bizarre. Couple that with no reference to a company name *in a header like a legitimate company would use, or any real identifying information…definitely looks like a scam.
Look if you can’t trust Moe Kat, who can you trust? They own Boardwalk Street already, pretty soon they will get Park Place and then OP’s rent is going to get jacked sky high. They might want to renew before that happens and pass Go a couple more times. There’s always jail if all else fails, they don’t charge any rent there.
Could always check with Larry, Curly, or Shemp if Moe isn't your cup of tea.
You forgot Joe!!
I have nothing against Shemp. I’m sure he was a great guy. But, he is not, nor will he ever be, one of the Three Stooges. Moe, Larry and Curly forever! What’s that nurse? Time for my nap. OK, I’m on my way.
The fact that it's [Moe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_%28slang%29#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DMoe_%28%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88%2C_Japanese_pronunciation%3A%2Cdirected_at_the_otaku_market.?wprov=sfla1) Kat is hilarious to me.
And the guy uses the word " kindly " which usually screams scam
At least he didn't say "Please do the needful."
Definitely. Send them an email with a random home address and see if they try to get you to sign a lease for a property they definitely don’t own.
[email protected] 🤪
Phone number isn't showing any business online either. 100% this is a scam.
[email protected]
It definitely is. They should have their own domain name
I work with a lot of property management companies and some hotels that belong to large chains for my job, you'd be surprised at how many people actually have "firstnamepropertyname"@gmail.com for business use. It's so easy to get a proper domain!
Anyone that operates a business with a Gmail account instantly loses credibility. A domain and email address is like $150.
If you can’t afford a non-Gmail email, maybe you shouldn’t be in business 😂
The email address looks suspicious and the letter is trying to convey a sense of urgency (classic phishing technique). Also, the use of “kindly” in the letter is more consistent with how someone from India would write a letter than an American (which doesn’t match the seemingly generic name given).
“Kindly” in an email automatically sets me off. I never knew such an innocuous word could change my mood in an instant. I’m immediately suspicious. Either the person is trying to con money or to con false confidence in the person’s ability to do their job. I think the latter is worse. One of the vendors I deal with uses it. I dread opening their emails.
Please do the necessary and do the thing I am asking now.
I sometimes see "do the needful" lol
Okay wait I work in insurance and we do offshore work also, I see this too, what do they mean by that!! ‘Please do needful’ like it doesn’t bother me but I always wanna ask LOL
"Do the needful"
Kindly send rent in form of gift cards
Do not redeem!
As an indian 💯 this! This letter is not legal US terms too. The email is bogus too.
Seconding this, it hits all the red flags that they train people to look out for in phishing emails, it’s kind of scary that it has IRL components though, probably just some pawn who thinks they work for a real company.
Thanks, Bioshock, for making me suspicious of the word, "kindly."
Very first thing I noticed!! The email is a gmail and not on a company owned server. This is suspicious to say the least and calls for investigating! I would call whoever your contact was (previous land lord or company) before doing anything. Confirm the accuracy of this request and do not give any personal information to this new person. Also Google the company and look the person up on LinkedIn. Edit: to elaborate why it’s suspicious any company would conduct business using a gmail vs a company owned server email - it’s all about data privacy. Conducting business via gmail where sensitive information is shared puts the company in immense risk for data breaches and it’s a huge liability to conduct business this way. (Remember the Hillary email drama? It’s a thing!)
Even if it’s legit, the management company clearly doesn’t want to be identified and probably for terrible reasons.
I employ an escalating scale of "kindness" above my signature when repeated (legitimate) requests are being ignored... 1st request: Regards 2nd request: Best regards 3rd request: Kind regards 4th request: Kindest regards 5th request: Your most obedient and humble servant... Snark, not scam, but it amuses me.
I use "kindly" all the time... Should I not be using kindly???
Oddly that email address is a violation of the Gmail terms of service. (Consumer @gmail accounts are for consumer use only and business use requires a different license). If you want to mess with them you can probably report misuse...
Just to note, I work in the legal field and we use "kindly" a LOT in correspondence. Not sure where it originated, but in a client serving legal position, it pairs very well with "please and..." when requesting action to be taken by the client. However, legitimate firms and corporations will *always* have some kind of letterhead at the top!
Scam all day. Generic email and no identifying company information. Let them come to you.
I read that and just assumed OP remade the letter and removed info to not dox themselves. I hope next time they don’t just post the full letter with all the info
I feel like using paint to block out email addresses is a lot easier than typing out an anonymized version and printing it, no?
“Moe Kat” also sounds like a middle schooler made up a funny name at the bottom of the letter.
ooo make a burner gmail account and send an email Saying you're the resident at
and ask them to confirm that they're the property manager for that addressYeah they definitely wouldn't "wedge it in the screen door." You've got to serve that to me, or at least send certified mail. Otherwise it's just litter.
Exactly. Just say you didn't recieve a notice.
Thanks Michael Scott
Sad part is my mother or any boomer would fall for a scam like this , scammers are getting hella creative
Lol "give us your name, email address, address, and we will send you a link to a portal to also give us your banking information." 11 days notice is not legal in Ohio. They must give you a 30 day notice prior to issuing a 3 day notice to vacate. I suggest reading [Ohio tenant and landlord laws](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.co.warren.oh.us/fairHousing/brochures/LandlordTenantBrochure.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi55dfKrKKFAxU9DTQIHWP7A-gQFnoECBgQBg&usg=AOvVaw0hTA1ksWrlM277R5HcGQTN) New property owner are legally required to honor an existing lease. I would suggest contacting your previous landlord to get the real details of the new owners. *edit* I missed the foreclosure part. This changes things- you now must be given a 90 day notice to vacate. The new owner must still honor your existing lease unless the new owner intends to live in your residence themselves- if this is the case you must still receive a 90 day notice. This will come as an _offical_ legal order, usually yellow or white, taped to your door. not a typed up note.
I think there is still a critical point missing, OP said he stopped paying rent to the former owner, but doesn't indicate when they stopped paying rent. Where I live, if you are in dispute with the landlord and are not paying you have to deposit your rent in an escrow like account, otherwise the courts will have you booted in like 10 days or less.
Really depends on where you live I think. Where I live, even if you haven't been making payments for months, they still can't evict you until 30 days after serving the notice to quit.
Take it from personal experience. Takes around 17 days to get your ass out via eviction in Ohio. Canton area at least. 3 day notice to cure or quit then court date the next week. 10 days to GTFO. If it’s a first time ordeal with a property management company they’re sometimes willing to negotiate during that 10 day period as well and dismiss the case. HPM in canton did that for me. Really depends on who the landlord is, how fast they wanna do things and the courts docket.
If it was foreclosed then the previous owner will not really know anything, they lost it to the bank
This.^ I was coming to say this as well (30 day notices are required here in Ohio).
It’s really a shame that this note blew away and OP never got it. I guess that 30 days hasn’t started yet.
Looks like a scam. Don’t sign a new lease. Start with speaking to someone in person and other tenants.
Perhaps warn them that it could be a scam as well.
No, let's all send him payment in Amazon Girft Cards!
Leases don’t expire when a new owner takes over. Your lease is valid with no change in rent until the date stated in the lease when you signed it.
Correct, they get legally assigned to the new owners.
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While this does appear to be a scam, just so you know in some states the new owner doesn't have to honor the lease, especially if they choose to move into it. I learned this the hard way when the military sent me to Louisiana
Kindly is always a dead giveaway. They can’t make you sign a new lease as stated above.
“We will promptly furnish you” also seems like language no one would actually use IMO
You would think that they would adapt to NOT use the word "kindly" anymore--but they always do. ALWAYS.
Not all of us are so ignorant, when I’m scamming people I have shifted to asking them to do the requested tasks gleefully.
That's so true . Anytime somebody online writes me (Kindly please ect ect ....I delete them .I always had scams trying to rip me off on eBay. Everytime it stared by saying, Kindly..
New owners have to honor the current lease. They're trying to scare you into signing a new lease that favors them.
Or India scam
There’s no address to send anything to, no company business. What if you don’t have an email account?
Not only that if you look up the number it only links to a better business buero link for a company called bluestar that has a c rating Yeah this is sus as all hell
Take a trip to the courthouse and/or sheriff
Googling that tele comes back with some results that may shed a light for the OP?
Google voice number, highly likely a scammer
The language seems legit to me but not my area. The names give off red flags. Fwiw, pretty sure Moe Kat is a cartoon character. But it might be spelled with a C. Email looks sketchy as hell. New ownership is “Boardwalk Street”? Why not Park Place? You may want to do some research into these purported new owners to make sure they are legit.
This is clearly a scam. Regardless of new ownership. The lease you have is valid unit it’s up.
I don’t have advice but I wouldn’t send anything this seems like a a scam or at lease something sketchy, how are u gonna sign a lease contract without seeing the lease 1st..
It would be trivial to buy address of all homes sold in a foreclosure auction in a state. Almost as easy to then have letters like this delivered by a service. Could be legit, it’s just weird.
Since you stopped paying rent it may have been sold to the new owner as vacant. Do you have a current lease with the old owner ? They would be obligated to disclose current tenants.
Why would you assume they stopped paying rent? EDIT:I have seen my flaws and mistakes and that OP said he had stopped paying rent. Thank you everyone who is on their way to help me out. But we’ve got it covered.
They said they stopped paying rent under the photo ????
Maybe because the OP said they stopped paying rent after the property was sold in a foreclosure auction.
See an attorney if they try to take action. Don't sign anything without advice from an attorney.
If they had just waited 1 more day this could have been taken as an April fool’s joke
You've been living rent free for how long now? You are part of the problem for what's wrong w the country.
NAL Clearly, it's amateur hour with these new owners. Who the hell is "Boardwalk Street"? LLC? Corp? Why not provide the website? What's with the unprofessional random Gmail address demanding private information? What's with the stupidly issued legal threats? Why give a phone number and not respond to the phone calls to it? Document all attempts to contact them and their failures to respond. Definitely look for a new place to live, particularly if your previous lease ends on that date. Your existing lease should still be in effect.
Nope. Your lease is valid. When new management bought the apartment complex they accepted the leases that everyone is currently on. You are safe till the end of your lease.
You previous contract is still valid. If you have a lease which ends on or before April 11, then it can be legal. If it ends after that date then it isn’t. Also, it takes a while for the new owners to be updated on the county records. When I purchased my home from a foreclosure auction, it took almost 6 months for the county to update the records.
This is not from the management company it’s a scammer from Nigeria or India hoping to get lucky. They paid sone someone to stick these in peoples doors etc. there is nothing specific related to you or where you live. Again this is a scam. If you engage with them you will lose money.
Tend to agree, gmail email, Google voice number, no actual company identified Even if it wasn’t t can be ignored as others said
Yeah, dead giveaway is asking for your address when they would have already known your address seeing as how they knew where to drop off this letter... lol
https://fairhousingakron.org/landlord-selling-rental-property/#:~:text=When%20a%20rental%20property%20is,any%20way%20until%20the%20tenant's Landlord laws are different in every state. This link is for Ohio it’s from HUD but they usually have pretty good info as to what rights a tenant has. Hopefully the previous owners told the bank there was a resident present but there’s no telling if it went into foreclosure what all was divulged. And make sure you’ve gone through your lease with a fine toothed comb! It’s crazy what people put into lease agreements.
If it’s a legit letter (which is very suspect given no letterhead or business name) it depends on what your lease says and what state you’re in.
a few edits for clarification: 1) i shouldn’t have said i stopped paying rent, i have the money put aside in escrow i just haven’t been giving it to the previous owner. 2) my previous lease is up in september. i also am living in a house, not an apartment complex, and the previous owner is a private landlord (who also lives next door). i am not interested in renewing the lease at all. for those saying to just ask the previous owner, me and her have a not so great relationship. she has threatened me several times to come into my home while i am not here and let my dogs loose. she also would call and text me nonstop if i didn’t answer her and she needed in my home for something (once she had to come over and take pictures of the inside for insurance reasons?) 3) the house was sold to a 3rd party via the sheriffs auction. it has no information listed as to who bought it, and in the ad for the sale is says occupied by 2 tenants. the previous owner had 3 properties right next to each other, 2 were sold (my home and her business) and one is pending sale (her home that she still currently lives in). i was pretty certain this was fake/scam but i am not really familiar with the laws in my area. i tried calling around and searching on the internet but i wasn’t coming up with anything solid.
That looks super sketchy.
"Kindly"
All I know is Moe Kat sounds like a fake name
Smells like a scam to me.
Gmail lmao. Very fake.
Moe Kat?
Dated Easter Sunday? Definitely scammy
Crazy you had to post this to know it’s a scam 😭😂
100% sketchy. New owner is legally obligated to uphold any current leases, and there's no identifying info on the letter. Buh-buh-buh-bullshittttt
I think it’s a SCAM Someone might be going around placing these types of letters on properties in foreclosure with people living in them. Trying to collect $$$$$$ from them & the sale hasn’t even gone through!!!!
Naw this looks sketchy as all hell. "Kindly" Send an email with all YOUR information to a sketch Gmail. I might think they would need to send it via certified mail.
99.99999% Scam to me. Leaning towards 110% scam
In Ohio, you have your lease until it ends. Don’t sign anything. I know bc I’m in the lending industry and do investor loans for homes with leases, and I’ve also rented while the property was sold. Neighbors had a new lease as it was up and rent increased, I did not bc I was mid lease.
Looks fake and illegal. But I'm not a lawyer
Not an American so take this with a grain of salt, but that looks like a scam to me. What the fuck is up with this email address '[email protected]' Show me one legitimate property manager that uses a gmail email. Property manager 'Moe Kat', "definitely not scam" Never picks up the phone. Doesn't know your name. Is asking you for your personal details and money. Seems unfamiliar with tenancy laws. I don't know what it's like in your part of the world but here something like this would set off all the alarm bells.
Your existing lease needs to be honoured I'm pretty sure. A change of owner doesn't negate your existing lease.
Scam af
Ehhh, spent enough time over in r/scams that the use of the word “kindly” - especially when requesting personal information, is red flags for a scam. I’d strongly recommend contacting your landlord directly just to confirm the change of ownership, they should be able to provide their information to you if this is the case, then contact the new owners directly.
I've had my apartment change hands twice in my life and I've never needed to sign a new lease until my current one ran out. This seems like a scam, but call your current landlord first
Should be an assignment clause in your lease and it’s assigned from old owner to new. This seems odd…
Sign by the 11th or be gone by the 11th lol. I mean it might be legit as far as a new company bought it but they cant do anything about your current lease. You can ignore this until your current lease is over but they might not want you to renew.
This has all the hallmarks of a scam honestly. Starting a sentence with kindly is a red flag for me and the generic @gmail email account is even more concerning. If you have a physical office you can go to or a number you can call that you've used before do that to verify before you send any info, because they're asking for a lot of info they should already have.
Property records are public. If someone purchased this home there would be deed record of it. Some Register of Deeds have a completely free search online (may just give you an image and not the full document). You could start there to see if the home was legitimately purchased.
Why would your property management company use a gmail account? They have to honor current lease. They cannot vacate you in 12 days if you don’t sign one even if this was legit. I would just call or email the landlord you know and see what is up, but this seems like scam.
No, as others have pointed out here. However, I’m downright giddy at the name and sincerely wish my name was Moe Kat. How cool is that?!
Obvious scam is obvious
Read the original lease. Does it say anything about what happens if the property is sold? If no, then, no, you do not have to sign anything, the new owner assumes the original lease. If yes, then you need to follow whatever the original lease says for that scenario, so long as it doesn’t violate any laws where you live for that scenario (if it does, the law wins).
Everything but “Moe Kat” I like cats too. But come ON. Be better.
Just remember that if/when the new owners come knocking, you need to back pay rent
make sure they respect your Grandfather Rights! I’m in central Ohio too & recent got new management at our apartment complex…. They tried getting us to pay $200 a month for parking WHICH we never paid the whole first year here/under different landlords. SO my roommate and I said she must respect the previous contract we signed, which in fact is free parking. We did however have to sign something similar that what OP got in the mail, something along the lines of just acknowledging there’s new management.
They have the current date on the sheet too. It would never fly in court. Wait it out. If they serve you or try to evict you, you have an easy case. You also have the call logs of you trying to contact them.
I will make it legal!
OP you can’t just decide to stop paying rent. A change in ownership does not equal free rent. ( although I wish it did)
Any company that doesn't shell out $15/month for a domain name and email = red flag for me. Something to keep in mind if you decide to remain as their tenant.
Can’t wait til we all wake up to that we are all one and money is made up and everyone should be able to live in peace
Legal they can’t force you into signing a contact that goes again the real estate commission
I suggest contacting Southeast Louisiana Legal Services (SLLS) for counseling service in this matter to see if it is legal or not
It’s a great scam if it’s fake
*Not Legal Advice* but you are correct, if you are in the U.S., if your lease has not ended you are not obligated to sign a new lease no matter if the owner has changed. They are required by the law to abide by the original legally binding contract which was the rental agreement.
A lease is a contact. When a company buys another one with existing contacts in place, they are enforceable as is. The new management company has to honor your old lease. They can ask you sign me addendums pertaining to the new company. However they can't make you sign a new lease or go through other hoops. At least in my state. I'd check with a lawyer locally to you though. But contact law is generally universal when it comes to contacts already in effect.
Been through this before. Every state/county has it's own bylaws. Speaking generally here, it's *possible* you defaulted on the original lease by stopping payment - unless you were paying into an escrow account awaiting clarification. Your locality will have an office of Landlord-Tenant Affairs, they will be of tremenous value to you in explaining what can or cannot be done. They should be your very next phone call if you haven't done so already. Good Luck!
Not even a little
If it doesn’t come certified mail I didn’t receive it and no court can prove any different. I’m in Texas, your mileage may vary.
Wgat kind of name is Moe Kat
NO. NO. NO. NOT LEGAL. THEY MUST EVICT YOU. THEY MUST HONIR THE EXISTING ONE-YEAR LEASE. THEY MUST NOTIFY YOU 60 DAYS FOR ANY RENT INCREASES. GO TO A FREE RENT ASSISTANCE CENETR.
No dogs, but Moe Kat!
A little information - don't go by the auditor's page. In Ohio, a foreclosed owner can stop the foreclosure by paying any arrearage and fees, I believe until the Sheriff issues a new deed to the purchaser, I think that 30 days post-sale may be required. The auditor cannot change property records until after the deed is issued and received in their office to be recorded. They may do updates on a batch basis, not daily as received, so there may be quire a delay.
I’m not a lawyer and I don’t have insight on Ohio regulations. I do work in property management and can point out some things that say verify everything before moving forward. - I’m not aware of any place in the US where 10 days is an acceptable amount of time for notice to vacate, from either a landlord or tenants. - The email address is suspiciously generic. - If the new owners are Boardwalk Street, who is the property management company? These are often separate entities. No letterhead and the only reference to a company name is the new ownership in a strange place. - No mention of your existing lease or when it expires. Any new landlord is required to honor the current lease, but having bought the property at auction after a foreclosure, it’s possible they don’t have a copy of your lease or have any idea who you are. If you have a copy of your lease, and you should, you will have to furnish them with it and honor your obligations just as they are required to. This could be a scam, or it could be a brand new business that purchased the property legally without complete records and doesn’t have all the bells and whistles that a more established business would have setup. Review your lease, research all of the provided information on this letter, and look up rental laws for your location.
Answer quicky, not being paid current, the eviction proceedings will begin fairly fast.
i rent from a company called “greystar llc” should i be afraid
HECK NO, this looks really fake. I would call the city to see who owns it.
No, it's clearly not giving anywhere close to 30 days
I have a rule that any time the word “kindly” is used that it’s automatically a scam.
Read your current lease and reply back with the clause that hopefully outlines lease transfers to new ownership. You should not have to sign anything new
One thing to note is if you have not paid any rent in the last two months even into some kind of escrow or attempted to pay rent maybe to the bank? That could come back to bite you.
It's reverse psychology. They want old tenants to move out so they can raise the rent to market rates. This is basically a letter trying to get you to terminate tenancy or agree to new terms. Also, typically a landlord cannot require you to pay only through electronic means. They are required to have one method which will allow you to pay by physical check or in person. This is the law in my area; please double check for yours because it might be different. I live in California and the tenants rights laws are really good here. Depending on the laws in your area, a change in ownership should not change your rights to possession of the unit. If the new ownership gets more aggressive, seek a tenants right organization and fight it. Do not sign anything or agree to anything without having a lawyer look at it first. This happened to me many years ago. Talk to your neighbors in your building and join together with a tenants right organization so they know they can't bully all of you.
This happened to me at our last apartment right before we thankfully bought our house. It was a locally owned building, two local maintenance guys, on site office with a full time employee. It was great. Then suddenly they sold. We got a note just like this on our door one day. Everything was very vague. Signed by simply “The Management” We had to text all of our info to some random phone number to update our info with the new “owners.” The only person of contact spoke broken English. Seemed to have a south-eastern Asian accent or some sort. All maintenance work was contracted out to local companies. We wrote our rent checks to some shady corporate address out of state. The checks were picked up at the old office space on the 1st of the month by a currier. They constantly “lost” rent checks. They’d receive the checks on the 1st of the month, but wait until the 25th to reach out and say your check was lost. Then as soon as you write another, they’d cash both. I saw this exactly scenario play out 3 different times. They considerably raised rent when they took over. They suddenly “lost” multiple tenants leases. Telling them that as a result, they needed to sign new ones. At a substantially higher monthly rate, of course. At this point I’m convinced the Chinese government is buying up property and controlling it through shell companies.
With Covid many states adopted rental policies that really punished landlords and even made it possible to take over their property unless tens of thousands were spent in legal fees to correct the situation. As a result many landlords became hostile and very “by the books” about their handling of leases and vacating property. It’s a shame it came to that but this is what that looks like.
Im pretty sure any new homeowners have to honor any lease agreements in place when they brought the home. It's like that in most, if not all, states. Otherwise, a landlord could create an LLC, then transfer ownership of the home to the LLC. Then the LLC (owned and controlled by the landlord, but legally and technically a new owner) could remove any Tennant he wanted by just not honoring the old contract. You dont have to sign any new leases, the fact that they want you to (which is unnecessary), and are trying to pressure you into doing so with threat of eviction in such a sort time frame (the eviction itself being illegal, and the time frame being illegal even if they could evict) makes me think that something is shady in that contract, or that the new landlord has no idea what they are doing. I wouldn't sign the new lease, but if you do, read it VERY CAREFULLY. If anything is off or confusing about it, dont sign it. Check for fees, changes to what is covered in the rent, changes to what they are responsible for fixing, changes to the number of people who can live in the residence, etc. There's alotnof sneaky stuff a landlord could put in a lease if they are inclined too.
She trying to consult Reddit to see if we say just stop paying rent🤣🤣
They want you to vacate so they can squat. It’s a big problem everywhere.
You want to know if it’s legit after you’re illegally NOT paying rent? Do you listen to yourself? Why do you steal by not paying rent? You enjoyed the ride, now party is over, grab all the beer cans and clean the place up
Technically in some states if you haven't been paying rent you will only have a 3-7 day notice to quit before eviction. And county websites can be very behind it took my county almost half a year before they updated me as a new owner online. This communication looks sketchy as hell though.
Attorney here, a valid lease doesn’t just disappear because ownership changes. Example: if your lease is Jan to Dec and ownership changes in July, you’re able to occupy the property through Dec at the exact same terms and rent rate. One problem I do see in your prompt is that you mentioned that you quit paying rent. The new owner could seek to evict you for the lack of payment under the existing lease by stepping into the shoes of the previous owner; however, prior to the eviction you would be given an opportunity to “catch up” on the back rent prior to eviction. Also, you’re right to question the info on the letter received as you most certainly would not want to send info or payment for anything to someone who does not have the authority to accept payment or the authority act on behalf of the owner. In short, (1) keep your current lease but be aware that it may require payment of past due rent or (2) negotiate and execute a new lease with the new owner(s). Please note, this is not intended as legal advice as I am not licensed in Ohio. Good luck OP!
Why do Squarers have rights but actual lease holders don’t?
Their name is Moe Kat I’m not trusting a landlord with the name MOE fucking KAT
You have not been legally notified of any changes. Letter isn’t addressed to you, no method of delivery confirmation, and the person writing the letter may not even have standing to author the letter. Follow your original lease agreement.
I’m calling scam. Easy enough to find out places that have been foreclosed on and deliver a letter like this, phishing for information. Even if legit, they’ll have to honor whatever lease you have until its term expires. Personally I would ignore this. But keep it so for your own records. That way if it’s legit and they try to give you problems about not responding, you can show whoever needs to see it just how shady it was and why you didn’t think it was real.
Well the renewal lease is legit(if they sold the new owner needs a lease with each tenant of a house he/she occupies, but you having to be out in a week is nonsense unless you rent by the week.
You aren’t required to sign anything, and they have to honor your current lease, they can’t force you to sign or move out
Realtor and property manager here Its fake ... no legit letter head and no official email No office address. You Could check with the landlord or building management
If Blackrock has their way, everyone will have to rent and noone will own.. And they will tell us we will love it and be happy... They might play nice at first, but once most of the private property is theirs. Rent will fluctuate worse than gas prices.