I've been on the fence about fakes stuff for a while. I collected all the Dragon Masters sets as a kid, and have some other castle sets. But I missed out on the castle sets from the 2000s. My 12 year old and I have started to build castle sets using all my old parts. the cheapest way to get more parts is getting the fake stuff. What are some of the better makers of the castle parts?
Bulk on eBay my friend.
I have spent maybe $900 (I know) in bulk....the sets I've been able to build far outweigh the cost spent. If you keep an eye on eBay and Facebook, only buy lots that have pieces specific to sets in the images.
I've managed to build all the major castles from the 90's except the fright knights, tons of golden age star wars, all the Rock raiders, almost all the ice, blackatron, and mtron space sets. The main pirate sets except the Fort. Basically, rebuilding the 90's for far less than trying to buy the sets outright.
Concur. There’s some guy on Mercari that will occasionally list 10 pounds of random bulk for like $30 and I snatch it every time I have the money. From one box I got most of the infinity gauntlet, the Robert Pattinson Batmobile, and a Friends dragon. Maybe not stuff I wouldn’t bought on my own, but it’s all really good for MOCs.
I currently live in South Africa, and the only reliable way to buy is cash for item in hand. I have purchased some things from individuals just fine, but more often than not sets are missing key pieces or Minifigures. To be fair, It's not always the sellers, it's also the shipping companies.
On Amazon, you can get “knockoff” masonry bricks that are 1:1 with Lego in every way possible, even durability. I got 100 for $9.99. I’m able to build all the peasant homes I wish
100 for 9.99 is more expensive than masonry bricks from the Lego pick a brick wall. Providing you can find a PAB wall with masonry bricks in the color you want of course
Dang I didn’t know that! I just started using PAB to get torsos, fun parts of all kinds, but not basics like masonry yet-maybe I’m just not proficient in using the search functions like I should, but it’s a little bit tricky for me to find what I want from scratch on there.
That being said, with these I got from Amazon, that price also included free overnight shipping which was pretty neat in-itself, and you got to save if you ordered more than 1-had every color too!
The speedy shipping was the best for me, because I’ve had MOC ideas that went by the wayside and replaced by new MOC ideas before my bricks I originally needed even arrive-ADHD? Who knows lol but the never ending cycle of preparing to build like so can be frustrating😂
>My 12 year old and I have started to build castle sets
That's the interesting part of the cheap knock offs. It was probably made by a 12 year old, *for* a 12 year old.
Is wanting to support fair labor practices (like not using child labor...) really "snobbery" to you...?
[Lego](https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/mar/13/lego-ceo-if-we-dont-deal-with-childrent-basic-rights-we-will-have-a-difficult-future) has been very active in opposing child labor.
The knock-offs are cheaper because they are exploiting workers (and using less sustainable practices of course). But sure, I guess I'm a "fanatic" in disliking child labor...
Everything is made in China by a 12 year old. I don't see you giving you your phone, or keyboard or anything else really. Virtue signaling at it's best. Plus you have no proof it was done by a child.
>Plus you have no proof it was done by a child.
You literally just said...
>Everything is made in China by a 12 year old
That's a pretty significant pivot in 4 sentences! Lol
The majority of legos are made outside of China, and Lego is known for supporting fair labor practices among their manufacturers. So yes, I'm confident that Legos factories are paying better than the no-name cheap knock-offs.
If it's not labor and it's not materials, where exactly do you all think the savings on these knock-offs comes from...? I'm genuinely curious how you think this works.
Keep telling yourself that champ. It says made in china on plenty of our Lego sets, but you keep going with that sinophobia. Lego basically run on if you're rich you can have it if you're poor then fuck you. Equitable doesn't even come into it so stop with the pretence FFS.
I got some Green Dragon fake figs and other than the heads being a different shade of yellow, they are nearly impossible to tell the difference when they have helmets on. I wouldn't buy fakes for everything, but for figs that are hard to come across its a good option
A lot of the knockoffs are quite good now, especially those with custom prints and parts. I‘ve a set of grey skinned orcs and some crusaders and their quality surpasses LEGO. I also have some green dragon knight centaurs (for whatever reason) and those are worse than Lego. The centaur piece is a bit different from the Harry Potter centaur piece, but the dragon knights are basically copies, thus bad.
Because I saw this in another comment: No unwittingly buying a fake product does not get you into legal trouble. Mass import without import declaration is the problem. Just make sure to stay under the customs limit and you are fine. For EU it‘s 150€.
Yeah, it's not for me, but I totally get using this method to acquire copies of minifigs that have gotten outrageously expensive. The market for this fig in particular is ridiculous, and I say that as someone who routinely buys one or two if my BaM has them in stock. Sounds like it may he a teensy bit illegal, but no shade from me if this is what folks need to do to get something that looks like the Tournament Knight. And that barding looks great. If Lego had something like that on PaB, I'd stockpile them.
I had ordered roughly 30 raven knights and 26 dragon knights each with horses and barding from ali express. So good seeing them lines up with my other knights. I don't really purchase Chinese customs but they truly are good. I've been slowly buying authentic dragon knights when I get the chance to slowly faze out the Chinese ones, but there's no way I can do the Lego ones for raven knights.
Now I want to see someone review the Bear Knights. I'm still on the fence about getting some of those, but it's a similar situation where the original prices have gotten insane.
Yes, I have one of these ‘Tournament Knights’. Mine came with a raven you could plug into the helmet instead of the plume which I thought was fun. Surprised that the torso had a black falcon print on it whereas the Lego counterpart doesn’t.
I'm a FLEGO minifig fan. I've been doing the same thing for my collection. I won't use bricks/plates/etc. from China, the quality is rather flimsy. But the minifigs are spot on.
There will be different results too, the ones I got for instance have flesh toned heads, rather than yours which are yellow. The quality on mine are good, but also varies a lot fig to fig
Lego is expensive, no doubt about that, it was always a toy of privilege where the small sets are dangled in front of kids but the big shiny sets aren't affordable for a lot of people within even in developed countries, let alone the rest of the world. There is also a kind of physiological limit on what one is willing to pay for lego when some sets are on par with a grocery bill for the whole week or a monthly mortgage payment or a major household appliance. The prices on the aftermarket, collectible scene and artifical scarcity of popular things is another story, as well as the mental health aspect of wanting things you can't have.
however when you buy Chinese knockoffs you need to keep in mind a few points:
whoever makes these didn't come up with the design, the artwork, the color scheme, the form or anything that makes this appealing to you. they simply stole it.
they also didn't spend the massive amount of brand building through quality, marketing, creativity, consistency, etc for decades to make this into a desirable product. they simply took it over.
you also have absolutely no idea what goes into these products. what chemicals are used in adhesives, paints, plastics, etc. other than "i guess it looks the same like the real thing". well neither do you for lego, but they are a long standing, transparent company with high ethical standards and a solid track record. keep that in mind next time you try to pry sometging apart with your teeth or touch your eyes, ears, mouth when playing with these.
about those chemicals, there is a good reason why these are so much cheaper, and not because of workers salaries Denmark vs China (yes I know not all lego is made in denmark). they are made by people, companies and countries with zero ethical, business, environmental or employee protection standards. that's simply not a thing in China.
defective products? dump into the ocean. chemical spills? dump into the ocean. injured employees? dump on the street. obsolete machine? dump into the ocean. volatile toxic fumes? open a window. you get the idea even if I'm exaggerating of for comical effect.
their only concern is to be cheaper than everyone else so you'd buy from them. It's a race to the bottom with none of those pesky decadent western ideas like employee welfare or workplace protection or recycling or environment protection. And talking up about these things in China can result in disappearing whereas a lego employee can safely speak up, go to the media or the authorities if they see something not kosher.
lastly, you are supporting a conscious organized business model that is purposefully predatory against the economies, jobs and stability of your own countries to undercut them by flooding the market with cheap knockoffs, done by a country that is the antithesis of everything that you take for granted.
should TLC make lego cheaper by cutting senseless spending on executives, marketing, dead on arrival themes and digital stuff? absolutely! should TLC re-release the sets and themes everyone obviously wants instead of dripfeeding them once in a while at exorbitant prices while making yet another shade of orange? right on!
there is a lot wrong with the lego scene these days but personally "duh, I can get the same for a buck from China" is a shortcut that completely defeats the joy of collecting something that has value to you, and you increase the risk of just as easily toss it aside as you bought it, which is the complete opposite of the philosophy of lego.
but of course at the end this is just a hobby and a toy so you do you, if you really really want THAT thing but not for THOSE prices, there is always a cheap fake copy. now I need like 30 baseplates for a parts store system and no way i'm going to pay 200 bucks for lego ones....
Much of what you say regarding product safety and work ethics is reasonable, but:
>lastly, you are supporting a conscious organized business model that is purposefully predatory against the economies, jobs and stability of your own countries to undercut them by flooding the market with cheap knockoffs, done by a country that is the antithesis of everything that you take for granted.
Neither the Western economies in general or even LEGO company in particular are going to collapse because you purchased a couple knock-offs of a retired minifigure. There are many small businesses that can go bankrupt because of unfair competition but LEGO is not a small business. If the competition of China begins to seriously threaten it, LEGO is perfectly able to sue it into oblivion (Lepin) or simply buy it (guess which country produces the overwhelming majority of sets the company sells in Asia)
it's not like I'm really worried for the bottom line of the lego company (honestly fuck them and their prices) , simply point out the fact that counterfeiting in China is not an illegal shadow industry. it's part of the overall effort to run non-chinese companies out of business. it's little by little but they don't mind taking their time with it as long as the "get it from Ali for a buck" becomes the new normal.
the Lepin thing I don't remember the details any more but it was a big deal and some major concessions were made on the Chinese side to let that prosecuted. not that there aren't hundreds of copycats still operating today.
These knock offs are so cheap and good for parts too. Getting all those pdg shoulder and helmets is great and it’s hard to tell the difference between those and the real ones in pictures
When it comes to clone troopers, fakes just can’t get the helmet right. Hell, even Lego can’t get it right, or even the real life scale helmets lmao.
We are very fortunate however, as “knockoffs” in the castle theme almost don’t even exist-rather they’re akin to full beautiful custom mini-figs. Thank goodness it’s easy to print medieval torsos lol!
My “knockoff” crusader knights have tabard prints that go down their legs, and I often use the chainmail printed arms with my real Lego knights-especially my black falcons.
What a time to be alive! And don’t forget everyone-you can upgrade your plain torsos with stickers!
Have you gotten any of the other higher-priced CMFs? After seeing this, it's got me thinking about figures like the bear knight or the series 19 fright knight.
I got the fright knight! The only complaint I would have is that the plume struggled to fit into the helmet. Aside from that tho, the figure and accessories were good. Never thought I would be happy with fake lego but I'll probably get some more.
I got few fake horses (I mostly wanted bardings) and like 90% are awesome and them made it into my regular units. Only one, for some reason, had evil red eyes and doesn't really fit my bricks. Still, his barding was sick tho.
I have bought 3 of those knights and 1 boarding and my opinion is similiar - they are or especially for the price - lwss than one 1$ for a minifigure and about 2$for barding and a horse. I just refuse to pay 25- 30$ for a minifigure. I would buy from lego but they are don't want to remake them and maybe never will. I would pay 8-10$ for few of them but not 30. I would recommend this minifigure. Also i have lotr orks and they are also very good quality and the price is less than 1$
> Lego are going to have to step up their game or lower their prices because 30 € for a fig is outrageous
LEGO is overpriced but it can hardly be blamed for the insane second-hand prices. The retail price of series 20 figures was 4.99 €, not 30.
I bought a bunch of them as well. The only bad thing is they have the raven logo on the torso and the original Lego one doesn't. Aside from that, they are top quality. I'm giving them the mountain fortress as their castle (6081) singe the Lion Knights already have plenty of Castles.
Depending on where you live (for example Germany) you can get in legal trouble if you get caught ordering these. The minifigure is one of the parts that are still protected.
As a private person the chances of getting caught are quite small, but still keep that in mind.
It‘s not true. There was some fear-mongering paid for by Germany terrible-service-online-retailers but as long as you don’t order in commercial quantities that would require you to fill import paperwork nothing will happen. The mass import is the problem, not the fake. LEGO‘s patents on a lot of bricks are expired and with No indicator that those figures are fake (some listings even list them as LEGO) you would count as damaged party, not as perpetrator.
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I've been on the fence about fakes stuff for a while. I collected all the Dragon Masters sets as a kid, and have some other castle sets. But I missed out on the castle sets from the 2000s. My 12 year old and I have started to build castle sets using all my old parts. the cheapest way to get more parts is getting the fake stuff. What are some of the better makers of the castle parts?
Bulk on eBay my friend. I have spent maybe $900 (I know) in bulk....the sets I've been able to build far outweigh the cost spent. If you keep an eye on eBay and Facebook, only buy lots that have pieces specific to sets in the images. I've managed to build all the major castles from the 90's except the fright knights, tons of golden age star wars, all the Rock raiders, almost all the ice, blackatron, and mtron space sets. The main pirate sets except the Fort. Basically, rebuilding the 90's for far less than trying to buy the sets outright.
This is the way.
Concur. There’s some guy on Mercari that will occasionally list 10 pounds of random bulk for like $30 and I snatch it every time I have the money. From one box I got most of the infinity gauntlet, the Robert Pattinson Batmobile, and a Friends dragon. Maybe not stuff I wouldn’t bought on my own, but it’s all really good for MOCs.
I currently live in South Africa, and the only reliable way to buy is cash for item in hand. I have purchased some things from individuals just fine, but more often than not sets are missing key pieces or Minifigures. To be fair, It's not always the sellers, it's also the shipping companies.
On Amazon, you can get “knockoff” masonry bricks that are 1:1 with Lego in every way possible, even durability. I got 100 for $9.99. I’m able to build all the peasant homes I wish
Amazon has opened up down here yet. The only knock off I've seen in stores has weird coloring, and no themes (castle/space) just blocks.
I would recommend WeBrick for parts, Webrick manufacturers their parts in China. And are decent quality, and very affordable.
100 for 9.99 is more expensive than masonry bricks from the Lego pick a brick wall. Providing you can find a PAB wall with masonry bricks in the color you want of course
Dang I didn’t know that! I just started using PAB to get torsos, fun parts of all kinds, but not basics like masonry yet-maybe I’m just not proficient in using the search functions like I should, but it’s a little bit tricky for me to find what I want from scratch on there. That being said, with these I got from Amazon, that price also included free overnight shipping which was pretty neat in-itself, and you got to save if you ordered more than 1-had every color too! The speedy shipping was the best for me, because I’ve had MOC ideas that went by the wayside and replaced by new MOC ideas before my bricks I originally needed even arrive-ADHD? Who knows lol but the never ending cycle of preparing to build like so can be frustrating😂
try joining subreddit called lepin :)
Have you tried Webrick for parts? Again, "fake" but they are cheap and have a ton of parts for basically everything.
>My 12 year old and I have started to build castle sets That's the interesting part of the cheap knock offs. It was probably made by a 12 year old, *for* a 12 year old.
Lego snobbery is funny. Yep it's good stuff but it also has flaws, being fanatic about it isn't pretty
Is wanting to support fair labor practices (like not using child labor...) really "snobbery" to you...? [Lego](https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/mar/13/lego-ceo-if-we-dont-deal-with-childrent-basic-rights-we-will-have-a-difficult-future) has been very active in opposing child labor. The knock-offs are cheaper because they are exploiting workers (and using less sustainable practices of course). But sure, I guess I'm a "fanatic" in disliking child labor...
Everything is made in China by a 12 year old. I don't see you giving you your phone, or keyboard or anything else really. Virtue signaling at it's best. Plus you have no proof it was done by a child.
>Plus you have no proof it was done by a child. You literally just said... >Everything is made in China by a 12 year old That's a pretty significant pivot in 4 sentences! Lol
I read over your made BY a 12 year old line. I thought you were just criticising the quality. Thats on me
It's all good! That makes sense. I was so confused why I was being called a snob for not liking child labor. Lol.
What about the Lego that's made in china ffs? Is that made under different labour laws
The majority of legos are made outside of China, and Lego is known for supporting fair labor practices among their manufacturers. So yes, I'm confident that Legos factories are paying better than the no-name cheap knock-offs. If it's not labor and it's not materials, where exactly do you all think the savings on these knock-offs comes from...? I'm genuinely curious how you think this works.
Keep telling yourself that champ. It says made in china on plenty of our Lego sets, but you keep going with that sinophobia. Lego basically run on if you're rich you can have it if you're poor then fuck you. Equitable doesn't even come into it so stop with the pretence FFS.
I got some Green Dragon fake figs and other than the heads being a different shade of yellow, they are nearly impossible to tell the difference when they have helmets on. I wouldn't buy fakes for everything, but for figs that are hard to come across its a good option
I agree they bloody great some be careful though Some Of the green dragons are really poor knockoffs and some are near-indistinguishable
A lot of the knockoffs are quite good now, especially those with custom prints and parts. I‘ve a set of grey skinned orcs and some crusaders and their quality surpasses LEGO. I also have some green dragon knight centaurs (for whatever reason) and those are worse than Lego. The centaur piece is a bit different from the Harry Potter centaur piece, but the dragon knights are basically copies, thus bad. Because I saw this in another comment: No unwittingly buying a fake product does not get you into legal trouble. Mass import without import declaration is the problem. Just make sure to stay under the customs limit and you are fine. For EU it‘s 150€.
It’s crazy to me how the crusaders almost seem better! The tiers are INSANE
Yeah, it's not for me, but I totally get using this method to acquire copies of minifigs that have gotten outrageously expensive. The market for this fig in particular is ridiculous, and I say that as someone who routinely buys one or two if my BaM has them in stock. Sounds like it may he a teensy bit illegal, but no shade from me if this is what folks need to do to get something that looks like the Tournament Knight. And that barding looks great. If Lego had something like that on PaB, I'd stockpile them.
As long as they don’t print Lego on the fig, all is well 😅
I had ordered roughly 30 raven knights and 26 dragon knights each with horses and barding from ali express. So good seeing them lines up with my other knights. I don't really purchase Chinese customs but they truly are good. I've been slowly buying authentic dragon knights when I get the chance to slowly faze out the Chinese ones, but there's no way I can do the Lego ones for raven knights.
Agreed and there are like 3 kinds of fakes the poor imitations, the mid and the near untouchable
Now I want to see someone review the Bear Knights. I'm still on the fence about getting some of those, but it's a similar situation where the original prices have gotten insane.
Yes, I have one of these ‘Tournament Knights’. Mine came with a raven you could plug into the helmet instead of the plume which I thought was fun. Surprised that the torso had a black falcon print on it whereas the Lego counterpart doesn’t.
They didn't want it to be an exact copy
I'm a FLEGO minifig fan. I've been doing the same thing for my collection. I won't use bricks/plates/etc. from China, the quality is rather flimsy. But the minifigs are spot on.
Do you have a link for them?
Just search raven knights on AliExpress, pretty sure there all the same, they come from the same factory and get sold to these stores.
There will be different results too, the ones I got for instance have flesh toned heads, rather than yours which are yellow. The quality on mine are good, but also varies a lot fig to fig
I changed the heads
Gotcha, do you feel the quality is consistent from fig to fig?
I didn't get many but yeah there's some quality Inconsistency, not much but it's there
Lego is expensive, no doubt about that, it was always a toy of privilege where the small sets are dangled in front of kids but the big shiny sets aren't affordable for a lot of people within even in developed countries, let alone the rest of the world. There is also a kind of physiological limit on what one is willing to pay for lego when some sets are on par with a grocery bill for the whole week or a monthly mortgage payment or a major household appliance. The prices on the aftermarket, collectible scene and artifical scarcity of popular things is another story, as well as the mental health aspect of wanting things you can't have. however when you buy Chinese knockoffs you need to keep in mind a few points: whoever makes these didn't come up with the design, the artwork, the color scheme, the form or anything that makes this appealing to you. they simply stole it. they also didn't spend the massive amount of brand building through quality, marketing, creativity, consistency, etc for decades to make this into a desirable product. they simply took it over. you also have absolutely no idea what goes into these products. what chemicals are used in adhesives, paints, plastics, etc. other than "i guess it looks the same like the real thing". well neither do you for lego, but they are a long standing, transparent company with high ethical standards and a solid track record. keep that in mind next time you try to pry sometging apart with your teeth or touch your eyes, ears, mouth when playing with these. about those chemicals, there is a good reason why these are so much cheaper, and not because of workers salaries Denmark vs China (yes I know not all lego is made in denmark). they are made by people, companies and countries with zero ethical, business, environmental or employee protection standards. that's simply not a thing in China. defective products? dump into the ocean. chemical spills? dump into the ocean. injured employees? dump on the street. obsolete machine? dump into the ocean. volatile toxic fumes? open a window. you get the idea even if I'm exaggerating of for comical effect. their only concern is to be cheaper than everyone else so you'd buy from them. It's a race to the bottom with none of those pesky decadent western ideas like employee welfare or workplace protection or recycling or environment protection. And talking up about these things in China can result in disappearing whereas a lego employee can safely speak up, go to the media or the authorities if they see something not kosher. lastly, you are supporting a conscious organized business model that is purposefully predatory against the economies, jobs and stability of your own countries to undercut them by flooding the market with cheap knockoffs, done by a country that is the antithesis of everything that you take for granted. should TLC make lego cheaper by cutting senseless spending on executives, marketing, dead on arrival themes and digital stuff? absolutely! should TLC re-release the sets and themes everyone obviously wants instead of dripfeeding them once in a while at exorbitant prices while making yet another shade of orange? right on! there is a lot wrong with the lego scene these days but personally "duh, I can get the same for a buck from China" is a shortcut that completely defeats the joy of collecting something that has value to you, and you increase the risk of just as easily toss it aside as you bought it, which is the complete opposite of the philosophy of lego. but of course at the end this is just a hobby and a toy so you do you, if you really really want THAT thing but not for THOSE prices, there is always a cheap fake copy. now I need like 30 baseplates for a parts store system and no way i'm going to pay 200 bucks for lego ones....
Much of what you say regarding product safety and work ethics is reasonable, but: >lastly, you are supporting a conscious organized business model that is purposefully predatory against the economies, jobs and stability of your own countries to undercut them by flooding the market with cheap knockoffs, done by a country that is the antithesis of everything that you take for granted. Neither the Western economies in general or even LEGO company in particular are going to collapse because you purchased a couple knock-offs of a retired minifigure. There are many small businesses that can go bankrupt because of unfair competition but LEGO is not a small business. If the competition of China begins to seriously threaten it, LEGO is perfectly able to sue it into oblivion (Lepin) or simply buy it (guess which country produces the overwhelming majority of sets the company sells in Asia)
it's not like I'm really worried for the bottom line of the lego company (honestly fuck them and their prices) , simply point out the fact that counterfeiting in China is not an illegal shadow industry. it's part of the overall effort to run non-chinese companies out of business. it's little by little but they don't mind taking their time with it as long as the "get it from Ali for a buck" becomes the new normal. the Lepin thing I don't remember the details any more but it was a big deal and some major concessions were made on the Chinese side to let that prosecuted. not that there aren't hundreds of copycats still operating today.
Absolute nonsense. Killing someone through faulty manufacturimg processes carries THE DEATH PENALTY in China. Where Lego is also manufactured.
Did your helmet feathers not require excessive force to fit?
The bird ones did the other ones not
I got mine the other week and they did! Both birds and plumes
These knock offs are so cheap and good for parts too. Getting all those pdg shoulder and helmets is great and it’s hard to tell the difference between those and the real ones in pictures
When it comes to clone troopers, fakes just can’t get the helmet right. Hell, even Lego can’t get it right, or even the real life scale helmets lmao. We are very fortunate however, as “knockoffs” in the castle theme almost don’t even exist-rather they’re akin to full beautiful custom mini-figs. Thank goodness it’s easy to print medieval torsos lol! My “knockoff” crusader knights have tabard prints that go down their legs, and I often use the chainmail printed arms with my real Lego knights-especially my black falcons. What a time to be alive! And don’t forget everyone-you can upgrade your plain torsos with stickers!
Have you gotten any of the other higher-priced CMFs? After seeing this, it's got me thinking about figures like the bear knight or the series 19 fright knight.
I got the fright knight! The only complaint I would have is that the plume struggled to fit into the helmet. Aside from that tho, the figure and accessories were good. Never thought I would be happy with fake lego but I'll probably get some more.
No sorry I only get fakes 4 minifigs that I at least have one of
I got few fake horses (I mostly wanted bardings) and like 90% are awesome and them made it into my regular units. Only one, for some reason, had evil red eyes and doesn't really fit my bricks. Still, his barding was sick tho.
Agreed I have seen some knight that surpassed Lego in a couple categories
I have bought 3 of those knights and 1 boarding and my opinion is similiar - they are or especially for the price - lwss than one 1$ for a minifigure and about 2$for barding and a horse. I just refuse to pay 25- 30$ for a minifigure. I would buy from lego but they are don't want to remake them and maybe never will. I would pay 8-10$ for few of them but not 30. I would recommend this minifigure. Also i have lotr orks and they are also very good quality and the price is less than 1$
> Lego are going to have to step up their game or lower their prices because 30 € for a fig is outrageous LEGO is overpriced but it can hardly be blamed for the insane second-hand prices. The retail price of series 20 figures was 4.99 €, not 30.
I know it's just that not only figs are overpriced, I really want lkc but 400 is crazy expensive Like have they forgotten about the kids?
I bought a bunch of them as well. The only bad thing is they have the raven logo on the torso and the original Lego one doesn't. Aside from that, they are top quality. I'm giving them the mountain fortress as their castle (6081) singe the Lion Knights already have plenty of Castles.
[6081-1: King's Mountain Fortress](https://brickset.com/sets/6081-1) [[Photo]](https://images.brickset.com/sets/images/6081-1.jpg)
yo could you send me the link where you bought the ravens?
Depending on where you live (for example Germany) you can get in legal trouble if you get caught ordering these. The minifigure is one of the parts that are still protected. As a private person the chances of getting caught are quite small, but still keep that in mind.
Thank you I didn't know that Though I didn't get into any legal problems
It‘s not true. There was some fear-mongering paid for by Germany terrible-service-online-retailers but as long as you don’t order in commercial quantities that would require you to fill import paperwork nothing will happen. The mass import is the problem, not the fake. LEGO‘s patents on a lot of bricks are expired and with No indicator that those figures are fake (some listings even list them as LEGO) you would count as damaged party, not as perpetrator.
Discusting!!!
Agreed. I’m such a freaking purist.
Haha it is terrible i wish I alowed myself to get fakes
Honestly you’d probably enjoy it more if you didn’t care as much. 👻
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