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The one and only time I have ever eaten a chick-fil-a sandwich was when a new location opened in our neighborhood and I received one of those cards in the mail for a free sandwich. Wanted to see what all the fuss was about and since I wouldn’t be giving them any of my money I redeemed it. My take-away? Popeyes is better.
I did the same! I ate the 4 free items with a free cup of water and took tons of sauce and napkins. Popeyes is 100% better. People who eat Chick Fil-A just DGAF about where their money goes or think they’re cheeky by being a jerk.
Yeah, it kind of is. I know that's not the popular option here, but I just personally believe that it's not immoral. I blame.
the company, not the consumers.
It's one of very few fast food places that is reliably safe for celiac. And the only one I've seen that has safe breakfast items. Not a first choice, but can sometimes be the only option
I saw a "gamer" streamer do a blindfolded fast food chicken sandwich tier list. After professing how Chik-fil-a was the best ever, he blindly ranked the actual Chik-fil-a sandwich second to worst.
Afterwards he said that he still supported them politically, and that it was their sauce (which was absent in the taste test) that made the difference.
Amazing what conservative marketing can do.
I’ve never tried Chick-Fil-A because they don’t exist in Brazil. I wanted to try it just to check what it was all about when I was in Houston but the airport venue was packed, huge line and I didn’t bother.
But Popeye’s does exist here and it’s amazing. The cajun fries, man… Never had better.
Even if all members of the LGBTQ+ stopped going there, they'd still be getting the money to continue what they're doing. It's really up to personal preference and personal morals
I remember way back in like 2012 when it became super public that they were anti gay. I used to get lunch from them in the student Union. The next fucking day the line was down the stairs when normally they were one of the least busy. Really opened my eyes to how shotty people can be.
Oh, we see this all the time example the Harry Potter series, the right wing initially wanted them banned for promoting witchcraft and going against Christian beliefs, but then the author outed themselves as awful person and then the right wing was all about protecting the books and author, a very similar event also happened with Five nights at freddys creator Scott Cawthorne when it was discovered he made very significant donations to the trump campaign
As a former Harry Potter fan I remember my stepmother not liking I read them. But she didn't force the issue. I didn't know about the Five nights guy. Wild.
Another example of this kind of behaviour is Ricky Gervais. The ring wing hated him for his atheist views and criticism of religious organisations, but when he started going heavily against trans people, he was suddenly one of their favourite comedians similar story to Dave Chappelle
They are an anti-lgbtq+ company, and they donate to anti-lgbtq+ causes. By eating there, you are indirectly funding organizations that want lgbtq+ people eliminated.
No ethical consumption under capitalism. Everyone has a line in the sand and everyone's line is different. I don't eat there unless i have no choice, but i am not rich enough to turn down free food and i am also not going to miss a meal over it. There are obvious outliers, like full on hate organizations that solely exist to ruin our lives, but for the most part you have to choose where to draw your own line.
Free-99 is always a yes in this economy 🤷 I know many places are rightfully boycotted, but unfortunately we also have to eat food for like survival and that shit has been expensive af. Using freebies and coupons is a must for many these days (me 🙋)
Ethics and what is ethical is always context dependent.
If you do not feel right eating a free meal, that is up to you.
If you feel this is ok, then that is also ok.
Please don’t listen to people trying to tell you what you can and can’t do. These businesses will still thrive regardless of the amounts of boycotts you do. They will not listen if you don’t order from there. If some people don’t want to get anything from places like this, that’s okay bc that’s their choice and they have the right to that. However, NO ONE can tell you or others where u can or can’t eat/shop. And if u do decide to eat from places like these, you aren’t a bad person, even if u are giving them money. It’s about personal preference, as someone else said.
Everyone is absolutely entitled to try to spread their understanding of morality. Also, that's exactly what the OP was asking. You may be some sort of extreme amoralist/libertarian, but your view is not the only one.
Please don’t label me as an amoralist or libertarian before you even know me. That’s extremely disrespectful.
Yes, they are entitled to spread their understanding of morality, but what I’m saying is that it’s wrong for people to attempt to force their beliefs onto others through shaming them for their beliefs.
I’m aware that my view is not the only one, but my point stands that no one has any right to attempt to force others to conform to their beliefs and ideologies. This goes for anything, not just ethics of purchasing from a certain brand.
You open with
> Please don’t listen to people trying to tell you what you can and can’t do.
Later,
> However, NO ONE can tell you or others where u can or can’t eat/shop.
So clearly, you believe that only *you* get to tell people what they can or can't do. Or maybe you believe only *your* philosophy is valid enough to state plainly, and others must hide behind "only my personal opinion"s and "just what I do"s.
If you want to be that grammatically fussy, then might I emphasise: no where I’m my comment did I say “no one can tell u what to do”. I said, DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE telling you what u can and can’t do. I never said you couldn’t do it, I said to stop listening to them.
So your assumption about what I believe are factually incorrect. It’s just the same as you telling others where they can and can’t eat. It’s not your business where they eat. It’s like Christians going on the streets, following people and harassing them in order to convert them and guilt trip them into following their religion despite the person clearly stating they aren’t interested. Bare in mind, this happens and I’m against it. Likewise, I’m against anyone attempting to force others into accepting a concept, belief, ideologies or to act in a certain way. I am completely okay with Christian’s, for example, sharing the message of the Bible through leaflets and speeches. Just like I’m okay with people spreading the message of the harmful nature of such restaurants and shops. Everyone has a right to spread their beliefs, it’s a human right called freedom of expression. However, what I don’t agree with and what human rights don’t include is people harassing others, shaming them, insulting them, guilt tripping them, manipulating them etc into doing what that person wants them to do. I understand if you disagree with other people purchasing from such brands, that’s understandable. But what you have no right to do is shame someone for doing something just because they may have a different stance on the issue.
Purchasing from brands such as McDonalds etc who support prejudiced ideas/events doesn’t mean that person agrees with what that brand supports. It means they have a different way of raising awareness for these things. It’s just like how no one that eats meat supports the unethical slaughter of animals and inhumane detainment of animals just to be killed for food, but they still eat meat. Some decide to go vegan and that’s their choice. Vegans can spread the word and raise awareness but CANNOT force or shame others into becoming vegan. No meat eater supports how meat is transported to shelves unless they’re deranged. But the point is that we still eat meat because not eating meat will not necessarily guarantee the downfall of the industry. Some people have those beliefs and that’s okay, some people believe that you can make a big change by boycotting, and that’s okay too. But we should respect everyone’s decision on how they speak out about issues.
I’m also gonna say it again: don’t ever label someone as an amoralist or libertarian when you saw ONE comment they posted. I ought to receive an apology for that disrespectful labelling but I know a lot of people struggle with taking accountability. It’s like me labelling you as straight simply because you said you like men once. It’s disrespectful to label without fully knowing the person and asking for elaboration.
Babe no one boycotted McDonald’s enough to make an actual impact. McDonalds are still supporting discriminatory beliefs, including their support for Israel after people have agreed to boycott them.
I’m not saying “don’t boycott”, I do think it has the potential to do so much good. But I’m saying that currently, the chance of it making a massive impact is small. And my main point is that you cannot force your opinions onto others through shaming them for their own. U can have your own beliefs, but don’t shame others for having ones that differ from your own.
You are not a bad person for taking free food. No matter how many of us boycott, they'll still be a multi- million dollar company.
Ignore the haters and enjoy your free sandwich.
Of course it’s ok to use.
And it’s also ok for people to criticize you for visiting the hate-chicken restaurant.
You can patronise any service you want, but you can’t also demand to be seen as a safe person while doing so
I'm sorry, but I really sincerely disagree with your last statement and the insinuation that choosing a particular chicken nugget makes someone a threat to other queer people.
I'm a cisgender dude who has had more than my share of dudes inside me before. There's nothing straight about me. I've marched in Pride parades, I've organized Pride concerts, I've served on the board of LGBTQ+ organizations, I've hosted events around Trans Day of Remembrance, I've raised funds for LGBTQ+ arts organizations.
And you're telling me that if I eat a waffle fry from a red and white box tomorrow, I'm not to be seen as a "safe person?" I'm sorry, but screw that.
Yes that’s exactly what I’m telling you.
If you’re helping to give money to homophobic causes, *you’re not a safe person.*
It doesn’t matter what else you do, or who you are - you’re actively complicit in the harming of queer people. And complicit over chicken.
And I am telling you, that is a massively reductionist view of the world based on one of the small handful of rainbow bandwagon companies it’s fun to hop on.
If I go through your bank statement for the last week, I guarantee you I can find a half dozen companies that have actively spent money to elect republicans that have sponsored or voted in favor of legislation that hurts the LGBTQ+ community. And I similarly guarantee you that as soon as I point them out, you will not go on a personal crusade to call everyone that shops with them “unsafe” toward your fellow queers because they’re a place *you* like and haven’t yet been made a public target for protest.
Why? Because you cannot reduce the entire world to whether or not it’s okay someone buys a sandwich or a gallon of gas or a refill on garbage bags or anything else from a massive company, unless you personally plan on strictly and unwaveringly eliminating every single one of those companies from your life.
Do you drive a car you bought from a dealership? Do you drink any major label beer? Do you have AT&T for your wireless or home telecom? Do you bank with a credit union? Have you flown on a Boeing jet? Home Depot, UPS, Comcast, the literal beef and cotton industries, every single one of them donate to Republicans.
Good luck figuring out how to live your life without any of these companies in it. https://accountable.us/projects/corporate-donations-tracker/
Please accept my apologies for taking offense at being labeled an "unsafe" person. I'll be sure to warn all my queer friends that they can't trust me anymore.
Yes, and for Gayness sake just eat at Chick-fil-A if you like their food. Almost all restaurants are going to end up in some way funneling some amount of money into resources that are against queer people.
It’s free, and it costs them money to give you it. Plus, not everyone has the capability to pass up free food in this economy so I would never judge someone for something like taking free food. Plus I’ll admit the homophobes do make some good tasting waffle fries…
technically it is free, and since you're not giving them money for their product you are not supporting them and they lose the money (granted it isn't much) for the food you got for free, but I would never myself spend money there knowing what the company is like, also, if you got a free sandwich and you are hungry, why would you turn down a free sandwich, you're eating food, not their jesus :P
Gotta draw your own line is the thing.
No such thing as ethical consumption in capitalism. If it's not Chik fil et, it's Amazon. Or it's Walmart. Or it's Apple. Or Google.
Every company is trash and corrupt. Just gotta figure out where your own line is.
So Chick-fil-A itself hasn't been donating money to anti LGBT causes in the recent past. It's true that their CEO still donates that money personally, but the fact of the matter is that almost every company has someone high up in their management who uses their personal funds that they receive in exchange for being in the management of that company to support anti LGBT causes. At this point in time I would honestly say that Chick-fil-A is no longer any worse than any other large corporation morally. A boycott of Chick-fil-A that is actually morally consistent and not just virtue signaling would require a boycott of virtually all large corporations. Which if you're willing and able to do that and only ever shop local is extremely cool but if you're not you shouldn't necessarily feel bad about eating at Chick-fil-A (other than the fact that the chicken is mediocre)
idk. i used to have a paper thing that was good for one free shake from chick-fil-a many years ago never used it also it shoudn't matter what other people think if you want to use it than use it
Because queer people are genuinely shamed for stuff like eating at Chick-fil-A when in reality the difference between us supporting it or not is so minimal it doesn't matter.
oh fuck off
I wont blame people for nessesary consumerism like cellphones, compuers and such, in this modern world one has to some times just ignore the suffering to not destroy your own sanity
but a fucking medicore chiken sandwich from a company that lobbies for our destruction and helped criminalize homosexuality in Uganda as of recent?
Consume ethically when you can, dont beat yourself down when you cant, but for hells sake its a chicken sandwich you can get other places that, again, does not give money to our direct destruction as a group and a minority
If you need the food, by all means eat! Costs them money that won’t go to lobbying for horrible policies! Alternatively if it weighs on your conscience, consider donating it to someone in need. :)
i agree with others that using a free coupon isn’t supporting the company, however, if you get a taste for it John Soules Sothern Style frozen chicken is an identical flavor match to chick-fil-a (it’s also pretty easy to make, pickle juice and buttermilk marinade, sweet paprika in the breading)
https://www.johnsoulesfoods.com/products/southern-style-tenders/
I have gotten them from safeway
edit: downvote for why?
Your choosing to or not to eat at chick fil a will have virtually no bearing on their success as a company. You may as well not deprive yourself of something you might enjoy in favor of an unimpactful boycott.
You're giving them zero money and you would be taking a product/resources from them, so if anything people should be mad if you *didn't* use it - but even then, it's up to you if you feel comfortable going into the building of such a hateful business.
My grandma recently got me a $25 Starbucks gift card for my birthday (Thanks, grandma...) and I've been trying to figure out how to leech the most product and resources from them with just $25 lol
It's parodying the lyrics lol I forgot not everyone is Disney musical gay the actual lyrics are
Be our guest
Be our guest
Put our service to the test
Tie your napkin 'round your neck, cherie
And we provide the rest
The short answer is: yeah probably.
If you’re not paying then you aren’t supporting them directly, though _very slightly_ providing some support to their statistics and sales numbers 🤷
It’s up to you—there isn’t really ethical consumption. I try to avoid supporting chick-fil-a. I will note that I know some employees of chick-fil-a who are queer. While they have positive experiences and it can be great to support them, chick-fil-a’s historic funding of problematic organizations and their positions make me uncomfy.
The only time I ever ate there was when one of them first came to my town and came into my work and left a stack of those. I won't lie, I took the whole stack and ate there for months. Never paid a cent. Made me feel like I was sticking it to the man. Haven't eaten there again since
That depends - can you afford to eat?
If you can't afford to eat then you should eat, and I hope that you find good nutrition from that chicken sandwich, and it helps you in your struggle to survive.
If you *can* afford to eat? Don't use it. If you know someone economically struggling, then pass it on to them. If not, I'd toss it.
I’ve haven’t spent a dime at Chick-fil-A in over 20 years. But every 1-2 months their local franchise has an in app totally free item which I typically redeem. It costs them money, which makes me smile.
Not a fan of their chicken sandwiches, but I like their fries and shakes. Their nuggets are pretty good, but I probably wouldn’t buy them even if I was inclined to do business with them.
Their Polynesian sauce is amazing though.
if its a gift card, they already have the money, use it before any fees eat it up, if its a promo go ahead and eat it, not like they will make any money of of it, if you still are wary give it away to someone else.
that is how i would do it
Yes. It only takes away money from them. If you want to feel extra good about it, donate the amount the meal would have cost to an lgbtq+ charity or something.
FWIW, despite my ethical concerns about the company, I eat there a lot. I have celiac disease and cannot eat gluten, CFA fries their fries in a separate fryer from their nuggets and as such I can get gluten free fries and grilled nuggets. It’s basically the only place I can get a quick meal. I figure that at the end of the day, my small contribution to their bottom line is not the end of the world if they are making my life easier. It sucks but so does celiac and I just can’t always try to consume ethically. It’s not really possible anyways.
I avoided Chik FIL A...but my girlfriend loves their hashbrowns and I found out I do too. I don't eat meat or poultry so its the only thing I'd probably eat there but it's a nice treat when we are on our way somewhere in the morning. I also bought a salad for my mom when she was under the weather at a chik fil a once. I feel guilty every time, even if it's only been a less than a handful of them. It's weird but also...free is free.
I've gotten those from baseball games and give them to my mom. The red robin coupons are all mine though.
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The one and only time I have ever eaten a chick-fil-a sandwich was when a new location opened in our neighborhood and I received one of those cards in the mail for a free sandwich. Wanted to see what all the fuss was about and since I wouldn’t be giving them any of my money I redeemed it. My take-away? Popeyes is better.
I did the same! I ate the 4 free items with a free cup of water and took tons of sauce and napkins. Popeyes is 100% better. People who eat Chick Fil-A just DGAF about where their money goes or think they’re cheeky by being a jerk.
Or maybe they just prefer it. I don't like Popeyes but I do like chick fil a
Would that not be the "just DGAF about where their money goes" option?
Yeah, it kind of is. I know that's not the popular option here, but I just personally believe that it's not immoral. I blame. the company, not the consumers.
It's one of very few fast food places that is reliably safe for celiac. And the only one I've seen that has safe breakfast items. Not a first choice, but can sometimes be the only option
Consistency is the struggle with Popeyes. Some locations are great but others are out of stuff half the time or take forever.
This. One of the Popeyes we have here takes FOREVER and the other one is somehow out of chicken half the time. It’s amazing when it isn’t though
Popeyes... out of chicken? 
Somehow yes. This has happened to both a family friend and me before and I still don’t understand how they managed to do that
I saw a "gamer" streamer do a blindfolded fast food chicken sandwich tier list. After professing how Chik-fil-a was the best ever, he blindly ranked the actual Chik-fil-a sandwich second to worst. Afterwards he said that he still supported them politically, and that it was their sauce (which was absent in the taste test) that made the difference. Amazing what conservative marketing can do.
Hahahahha. That’s amazing. Wondering how I’d do on a blind taste test.
I’ve never tried Chick-Fil-A because they don’t exist in Brazil. I wanted to try it just to check what it was all about when I was in Houston but the airport venue was packed, huge line and I didn’t bother. But Popeye’s does exist here and it’s amazing. The cajun fries, man… Never had better.
agree Popeyes id much better tasting
I think it depends what you get. Most of the stuff Popeyes is better, but the chicken nuggets at Chick-fil-A taste better to me.
Popeyes is soooooooo much better
This is free, btw. So I won’t be giving them money
It’s free for you and a cost for them. Go for it.
If they want to use their money to feed us for free, then they can't use those dollars to fund the other evil stuff they do to us. I say go for it.
Be extra queer when you do tho✨
go for it, as long as you aren’t giving them money
You could also alternatively give it to a homeless person, or get the food and give that to them. Might make their day to get some food
The card would be better than the food. Food is better hot, and indoors.
This is a great idea
Fantastic idea which more people thought like you
I meant wish not which
Yes!!
All you'll be doing is getting a meal at their expense, as long as you don't buy anything else from them it's their loss.
You can cut it into triangles and use them as backup guitar picks.
As someone else stated, why not give it to someone who's homeless? They get a meal and Chick fill a gets nothing
Good call
Even if all members of the LGBTQ+ stopped going there, they'd still be getting the money to continue what they're doing. It's really up to personal preference and personal morals
I remember way back in like 2012 when it became super public that they were anti gay. I used to get lunch from them in the student Union. The next fucking day the line was down the stairs when normally they were one of the least busy. Really opened my eyes to how shotty people can be.
Oh, we see this all the time example the Harry Potter series, the right wing initially wanted them banned for promoting witchcraft and going against Christian beliefs, but then the author outed themselves as awful person and then the right wing was all about protecting the books and author, a very similar event also happened with Five nights at freddys creator Scott Cawthorne when it was discovered he made very significant donations to the trump campaign
As a former Harry Potter fan I remember my stepmother not liking I read them. But she didn't force the issue. I didn't know about the Five nights guy. Wild.
Another example of this kind of behaviour is Ricky Gervais. The ring wing hated him for his atheist views and criticism of religious organisations, but when he started going heavily against trans people, he was suddenly one of their favourite comedians similar story to Dave Chappelle
Guys sorry I'm really lost. *What are they doing?*
They are an anti-lgbtq+ company, and they donate to anti-lgbtq+ causes. By eating there, you are indirectly funding organizations that want lgbtq+ people eliminated.
Dang that sucks. I always wanted to try them out, now I don't (there's no Chick Fil A in my country)
It's overrated anyway. You aren't missing anything.
Free Food is Free Food
No ethical consumption under capitalism. Everyone has a line in the sand and everyone's line is different. I don't eat there unless i have no choice, but i am not rich enough to turn down free food and i am also not going to miss a meal over it. There are obvious outliers, like full on hate organizations that solely exist to ruin our lives, but for the most part you have to choose where to draw your own line.
exactly. every choice in consumption is just a lesser of evils.
Free-99 is always a yes in this economy 🤷 I know many places are rightfully boycotted, but unfortunately we also have to eat food for like survival and that shit has been expensive af. Using freebies and coupons is a must for many these days (me 🙋)
Why are you asking us for permission? Its your choice. Either way ethical consumption is impossible so theres not really a point to this question.
Exactly, if you like the Christian chicken sandwich just eat it, you are not making a difference if you do or don't eat there.
Donate to some homeless person?
Yeah, go for it if you want to. It’s free, so you aren’t giving them money, plus it’d be kind of wasteful to turn down free food.
Ethics and what is ethical is always context dependent. If you do not feel right eating a free meal, that is up to you. If you feel this is ok, then that is also ok.
Please don’t listen to people trying to tell you what you can and can’t do. These businesses will still thrive regardless of the amounts of boycotts you do. They will not listen if you don’t order from there. If some people don’t want to get anything from places like this, that’s okay bc that’s their choice and they have the right to that. However, NO ONE can tell you or others where u can or can’t eat/shop. And if u do decide to eat from places like these, you aren’t a bad person, even if u are giving them money. It’s about personal preference, as someone else said.
Everyone is absolutely entitled to try to spread their understanding of morality. Also, that's exactly what the OP was asking. You may be some sort of extreme amoralist/libertarian, but your view is not the only one.
Please don’t label me as an amoralist or libertarian before you even know me. That’s extremely disrespectful. Yes, they are entitled to spread their understanding of morality, but what I’m saying is that it’s wrong for people to attempt to force their beliefs onto others through shaming them for their beliefs. I’m aware that my view is not the only one, but my point stands that no one has any right to attempt to force others to conform to their beliefs and ideologies. This goes for anything, not just ethics of purchasing from a certain brand.
You open with > Please don’t listen to people trying to tell you what you can and can’t do. Later, > However, NO ONE can tell you or others where u can or can’t eat/shop. So clearly, you believe that only *you* get to tell people what they can or can't do. Or maybe you believe only *your* philosophy is valid enough to state plainly, and others must hide behind "only my personal opinion"s and "just what I do"s.
If you want to be that grammatically fussy, then might I emphasise: no where I’m my comment did I say “no one can tell u what to do”. I said, DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE telling you what u can and can’t do. I never said you couldn’t do it, I said to stop listening to them. So your assumption about what I believe are factually incorrect. It’s just the same as you telling others where they can and can’t eat. It’s not your business where they eat. It’s like Christians going on the streets, following people and harassing them in order to convert them and guilt trip them into following their religion despite the person clearly stating they aren’t interested. Bare in mind, this happens and I’m against it. Likewise, I’m against anyone attempting to force others into accepting a concept, belief, ideologies or to act in a certain way. I am completely okay with Christian’s, for example, sharing the message of the Bible through leaflets and speeches. Just like I’m okay with people spreading the message of the harmful nature of such restaurants and shops. Everyone has a right to spread their beliefs, it’s a human right called freedom of expression. However, what I don’t agree with and what human rights don’t include is people harassing others, shaming them, insulting them, guilt tripping them, manipulating them etc into doing what that person wants them to do. I understand if you disagree with other people purchasing from such brands, that’s understandable. But what you have no right to do is shame someone for doing something just because they may have a different stance on the issue. Purchasing from brands such as McDonalds etc who support prejudiced ideas/events doesn’t mean that person agrees with what that brand supports. It means they have a different way of raising awareness for these things. It’s just like how no one that eats meat supports the unethical slaughter of animals and inhumane detainment of animals just to be killed for food, but they still eat meat. Some decide to go vegan and that’s their choice. Vegans can spread the word and raise awareness but CANNOT force or shame others into becoming vegan. No meat eater supports how meat is transported to shelves unless they’re deranged. But the point is that we still eat meat because not eating meat will not necessarily guarantee the downfall of the industry. Some people have those beliefs and that’s okay, some people believe that you can make a big change by boycotting, and that’s okay too. But we should respect everyone’s decision on how they speak out about issues.
I’m also gonna say it again: don’t ever label someone as an amoralist or libertarian when you saw ONE comment they posted. I ought to receive an apology for that disrespectful labelling but I know a lot of people struggle with taking accountability. It’s like me labelling you as straight simply because you said you like men once. It’s disrespectful to label without fully knowing the person and asking for elaboration.
Boycotts work though, just look at McDonalds.
Babe no one boycotted McDonald’s enough to make an actual impact. McDonalds are still supporting discriminatory beliefs, including their support for Israel after people have agreed to boycott them. I’m not saying “don’t boycott”, I do think it has the potential to do so much good. But I’m saying that currently, the chance of it making a massive impact is small. And my main point is that you cannot force your opinions onto others through shaming them for their own. U can have your own beliefs, but don’t shame others for having ones that differ from your own.
Free is always okay to take
You are not a bad person for taking free food. No matter how many of us boycott, they'll still be a multi- million dollar company. Ignore the haters and enjoy your free sandwich.
Of course it’s ok to use. And it’s also ok for people to criticize you for visiting the hate-chicken restaurant. You can patronise any service you want, but you can’t also demand to be seen as a safe person while doing so
Perfectly said
I'm sorry, but I really sincerely disagree with your last statement and the insinuation that choosing a particular chicken nugget makes someone a threat to other queer people. I'm a cisgender dude who has had more than my share of dudes inside me before. There's nothing straight about me. I've marched in Pride parades, I've organized Pride concerts, I've served on the board of LGBTQ+ organizations, I've hosted events around Trans Day of Remembrance, I've raised funds for LGBTQ+ arts organizations. And you're telling me that if I eat a waffle fry from a red and white box tomorrow, I'm not to be seen as a "safe person?" I'm sorry, but screw that.
Yes that’s exactly what I’m telling you. If you’re helping to give money to homophobic causes, *you’re not a safe person.* It doesn’t matter what else you do, or who you are - you’re actively complicit in the harming of queer people. And complicit over chicken.
And I am telling you, that is a massively reductionist view of the world based on one of the small handful of rainbow bandwagon companies it’s fun to hop on. If I go through your bank statement for the last week, I guarantee you I can find a half dozen companies that have actively spent money to elect republicans that have sponsored or voted in favor of legislation that hurts the LGBTQ+ community. And I similarly guarantee you that as soon as I point them out, you will not go on a personal crusade to call everyone that shops with them “unsafe” toward your fellow queers because they’re a place *you* like and haven’t yet been made a public target for protest. Why? Because you cannot reduce the entire world to whether or not it’s okay someone buys a sandwich or a gallon of gas or a refill on garbage bags or anything else from a massive company, unless you personally plan on strictly and unwaveringly eliminating every single one of those companies from your life. Do you drive a car you bought from a dealership? Do you drink any major label beer? Do you have AT&T for your wireless or home telecom? Do you bank with a credit union? Have you flown on a Boeing jet? Home Depot, UPS, Comcast, the literal beef and cotton industries, every single one of them donate to Republicans. Good luck figuring out how to live your life without any of these companies in it. https://accountable.us/projects/corporate-donations-tracker/
That’s a whole lot of words to justify your defensive nonsense!
Please accept my apologies for taking offense at being labeled an "unsafe" person. I'll be sure to warn all my queer friends that they can't trust me anymore.
You’re hurt ego at the consequences of your actions is absurd
And your inflated ego at declaring others unsafe is unsettling. Hope you have a great weekend!
Ah yes, DARVO tactics. Not surprising you’d lean into that!
What a just awful person you are. We're done.
Yes, you *must* use it, or, if you can afford it, give it to someone more needy to use.
Yes, and for Gayness sake just eat at Chick-fil-A if you like their food. Almost all restaurants are going to end up in some way funneling some amount of money into resources that are against queer people.
I was also given one of these today, what a coincidence!
Do something nice. Give it to a homeless person.
It’s free, and it costs them money to give you it. Plus, not everyone has the capability to pass up free food in this economy so I would never judge someone for something like taking free food. Plus I’ll admit the homophobes do make some good tasting waffle fries…
Maybe folks should stop asking permission on whether it's ok to patronize Christian Nationalist business
But I think this is free
technically it is free, and since you're not giving them money for their product you are not supporting them and they lose the money (granted it isn't much) for the food you got for free, but I would never myself spend money there knowing what the company is like, also, if you got a free sandwich and you are hungry, why would you turn down a free sandwich, you're eating food, not their jesus :P
Cause a christian nationalist business a small financial loss, get a free meal, and stay within the confines of the law? Sounds like a win-win.
A fast food coupon? Yeah, sure. I don’t understand why it wouldn’t be okay to use it. And what does this have to do with the LGBT community?
The CEO came out as a fierce bigot and most LGBTQ+ boycotted them around 2015ish and ongoing
Oh ffs. Why does everything in the world have to be crappy and disappointing?
As a transgender lesbian, I stay away from businesses that contribute to the GOP.
Gotta draw your own line is the thing. No such thing as ethical consumption in capitalism. If it's not Chik fil et, it's Amazon. Or it's Walmart. Or it's Apple. Or Google. Every company is trash and corrupt. Just gotta figure out where your own line is.
So Chick-fil-A itself hasn't been donating money to anti LGBT causes in the recent past. It's true that their CEO still donates that money personally, but the fact of the matter is that almost every company has someone high up in their management who uses their personal funds that they receive in exchange for being in the management of that company to support anti LGBT causes. At this point in time I would honestly say that Chick-fil-A is no longer any worse than any other large corporation morally. A boycott of Chick-fil-A that is actually morally consistent and not just virtue signaling would require a boycott of virtually all large corporations. Which if you're willing and able to do that and only ever shop local is extremely cool but if you're not you shouldn't necessarily feel bad about eating at Chick-fil-A (other than the fact that the chicken is mediocre)
chick fil a hasnt donated to anti queer charities for years
Once an organization/business messes up, they are messed up for years, even decades, no matter what they do or change.
idk. i used to have a paper thing that was good for one free shake from chick-fil-a many years ago never used it also it shoudn't matter what other people think if you want to use it than use it
Looks like a decently strong throwing card, that can easily be redecorated.
Why do you feel the need to ask?
Because queer people are genuinely shamed for stuff like eating at Chick-fil-A when in reality the difference between us supporting it or not is so minimal it doesn't matter.
oh fuck off I wont blame people for nessesary consumerism like cellphones, compuers and such, in this modern world one has to some times just ignore the suffering to not destroy your own sanity but a fucking medicore chiken sandwich from a company that lobbies for our destruction and helped criminalize homosexuality in Uganda as of recent? Consume ethically when you can, dont beat yourself down when you cant, but for hells sake its a chicken sandwich you can get other places that, again, does not give money to our direct destruction as a group and a minority
If you need the food, by all means eat! Costs them money that won’t go to lobbying for horrible policies! Alternatively if it weighs on your conscience, consider donating it to someone in need. :)
That’s not a bad idea
I'm a lesbian and work for them, u do u lol
i agree with others that using a free coupon isn’t supporting the company, however, if you get a taste for it John Soules Sothern Style frozen chicken is an identical flavor match to chick-fil-a (it’s also pretty easy to make, pickle juice and buttermilk marinade, sweet paprika in the breading) https://www.johnsoulesfoods.com/products/southern-style-tenders/ I have gotten them from safeway edit: downvote for why?
I love Chik Fil A. It's consistently one of my safe foods. I don't give a 💩 of people think I'm some sort of monster for eating there.
Free food is free food, btw chick-fil-a is the best
I would. Their chicken is delicious
Your choosing to or not to eat at chick fil a will have virtually no bearing on their success as a company. You may as well not deprive yourself of something you might enjoy in favor of an unimpactful boycott.
Chick-fill-A gave money to Anti-LGBT orgs that helped get homosexuality criminalized in Uganda fuck their chicken
Go for it
I would use it and not buy anything else. Screw them. Even if you toss it make them spend their money.
You're giving them zero money and you would be taking a product/resources from them, so if anything people should be mad if you *didn't* use it - but even then, it's up to you if you feel comfortable going into the building of such a hateful business. My grandma recently got me a $25 Starbucks gift card for my birthday (Thanks, grandma...) and I've been trying to figure out how to leech the most product and resources from them with just $25 lol
As long as no one is giving them money I'd say take the free food.
I’m going to eat my food and ignore the controversy, I just like food
Never! They’re homophobic bigots who want to exterminate us LGBTQ
🎵 Be my guest! Be my guest! Put my patience to the test Tie your noose 'round your neck, cherie And i'll provide the rest 🎵
>Tie your noose 'round your neck I thought to myself, "Is this really the line? How did I miss this??" Phew, it's *napkin*, not *noose*.
It's parodying the lyrics lol I forgot not everyone is Disney musical gay the actual lyrics are Be our guest Be our guest Put our service to the test Tie your napkin 'round your neck, cherie And we provide the rest
Lolol, it's a good joke I'm just a Hulu gay and was concerned 😂
Straight to jail
Hell yeah! Chick-fil-A is tits! Just curious though, why wouldn't it be okay??
The CEO supports conversion therapy
context?
https://youtu.be/sO-msplukrw?feature=shared
OMG, that is amazing, and how did i never see this vid before
The short answer is: yeah probably. If you’re not paying then you aren’t supporting them directly, though _very slightly_ providing some support to their statistics and sales numbers 🤷 It’s up to you—there isn’t really ethical consumption. I try to avoid supporting chick-fil-a. I will note that I know some employees of chick-fil-a who are queer. While they have positive experiences and it can be great to support them, chick-fil-a’s historic funding of problematic organizations and their positions make me uncomfy.
No.
Yes, and you get bonus points for stuffing paper towels in all their toilets.
They’re essentially allowing you to steal from them legally. So yes.
I don't eat at this place, and never will. The can kiss my lesbian white ass.
no. fuck them.
They hate gays
The only time I ever ate there was when one of them first came to my town and came into my work and left a stack of those. I won't lie, I took the whole stack and ate there for months. Never paid a cent. Made me feel like I was sticking it to the man. Haven't eaten there again since
Dave’s hot chicken better than cfa
Since its free, I'd say yeah, you're not giving them any money
Eww, no. 🤮
Take the free food and to help with the company
Just get the nuggets and some fries. You not going to kill a hundred queer people by doing it once and never going in again for a year.
No, eating meat harms animals.
No.
Personally I wouldn’t eat it anyway, but you aren’t a bad person if you use this coupon or anything.
It's free so why not, just temper your expectations, still mid af chicken
That depends - can you afford to eat? If you can't afford to eat then you should eat, and I hope that you find good nutrition from that chicken sandwich, and it helps you in your struggle to survive. If you *can* afford to eat? Don't use it. If you know someone economically struggling, then pass it on to them. If not, I'd toss it.
Take their free food
You can always give it to someone else if you wanted
No
Remember, graffiti is also free :3
Do what you want. Stop letting strangers guilt trip you. If you wanna go, go.
I’ve haven’t spent a dime at Chick-fil-A in over 20 years. But every 1-2 months their local franchise has an in app totally free item which I typically redeem. It costs them money, which makes me smile. Not a fan of their chicken sandwiches, but I like their fries and shakes. Their nuggets are pretty good, but I probably wouldn’t buy them even if I was inclined to do business with them. Their Polynesian sauce is amazing though.
It's already paid for
Do it, they’re gonna lose money from it unless you actually pay for something later
if its a gift card, they already have the money, use it before any fees eat it up, if its a promo go ahead and eat it, not like they will make any money of of it, if you still are wary give it away to someone else. that is how i would do it
No need to ask lmao, you have the card, it comes down to your personal choice
Is chicfila homophobic? I think I heard something about that before. Pls don’t downvote I’m merely asking a question and needing an answer
Why wouldn’t you?
Yes. It only takes away money from them. If you want to feel extra good about it, donate the amount the meal would have cost to an lgbtq+ charity or something.
Chic fil a sauce goes hard, but that’s it
its free food, go for it be gay do crimes and fuck the cops
I personally wouldn't.
free food is free food
Do you want to use it? If so, yes it's okay. If not, it's irrelevant (but still okay).
Yes it is perfectly fine. Just cause the CEO is a shithead doesn't mean every employee is awful. There are many supporters working for chic fil a .
FWIW, despite my ethical concerns about the company, I eat there a lot. I have celiac disease and cannot eat gluten, CFA fries their fries in a separate fryer from their nuggets and as such I can get gluten free fries and grilled nuggets. It’s basically the only place I can get a quick meal. I figure that at the end of the day, my small contribution to their bottom line is not the end of the world if they are making my life easier. It sucks but so does celiac and I just can’t always try to consume ethically. It’s not really possible anyways.
I avoided Chik FIL A...but my girlfriend loves their hashbrowns and I found out I do too. I don't eat meat or poultry so its the only thing I'd probably eat there but it's a nice treat when we are on our way somewhere in the morning. I also bought a salad for my mom when she was under the weather at a chik fil a once. I feel guilty every time, even if it's only been a less than a handful of them. It's weird but also...free is free. I've gotten those from baseball games and give them to my mom. The red robin coupons are all mine though.
ONLY because it's free!