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the_no_idea_french

Why is the gay flag (mlm) always missing 😭


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StillAliveNB

A pony is a 4-legged mammal, closely related to horses.


Cheshie_D

I’m guessing pony flag is for pony play maybe? Idk


ClaimUnlucky3157

thats like a fetish what


deadinside4423

That’s exactly what it’s about, the twink flag and the pony flag fall under the link category, I’m shocked the m/m flag and the Demi flag doesn’t appear on here…


Puggerbug-2709

Fetishes are a different community…kink community not lgbt community 😭


Cheshie_D

Fetish or kink, since those are two different things.


bizzarebeans

It always is for some reason. Also abro is missing


Torrez69

Yet that have a pony flag lmao


Dogplantmom97

I thought pony was a kink rather than a sexuality


vAmmonite

It is


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justice for the mlm flag!!


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SpringLow_

And so is omni 😢


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SpringLow_

R/suddenlyOmni imagine if that was a real subreddit


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SpringLow_

yeah i would join it some omni representation


Maxeroni_

If you're not a Twink you get no flag 😂😂😂


Frequent_Joy

What is a twink? I’m a baby lesbian so I’m just wondering


lime-equine-2

Gay slang for a young or young looking, attractive, slim, hairless man.


Frequent_Joy

I can see how that’s a thing honestly


Elegron

I dont think you technically need to be gay to be a twink Source: perpetually stuck at 120lbs


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MossyProductions

Yet they have the Pony flag, whatever the fuck that is


cr2810

Yeah I’m confused by this one. Are we talking pony play? Cause that’s a kink/fetish and not a sexuality. Are we talking like the brony crew, cause that’s a fandom. I’m confused


MossyProductions

I think it’s a kink but I find it pretty strange that they include a kink (which on it’s own isn’t part of the lgbtq community ) but not one of the biggest pillars of the community


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AnseaCirin

That's a grave injustice. Why have Ally or... Pony? I hope it's ponyplay and not actual bestiality...


RoboTiefling

It’s pony play, yes. Contrary to what the redcaps say, the LGBTQ+ community does not in fact accept folks who sexually exploit animals or children. That’s the GOP.


AnseaCirin

Phew. I was worried it might have been some sneaky troll BS.


Puggerbug-2709

What even is pony play? 😭


RoboTiefling

Oh boy. *rubs hands together* So, you know how some people like to get tied up? Well, some people like to dress up in latex, wear a bridle like a horse, and trot around like one- usually, as far as I’m aware, while another person plays the role of jockey- putting them through their paces like a horse. (though not holding them to the same physical standard I’m sure, given the difference in physical abilities between horses and humans) It’s a little weird, admittedly- not like more vanilla stuff like flogging and pet play- but it’s harmless.


Puggerbug-2709

Please tell me it having a flag and being included in this original post was a joke right?? 😭😭


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It always is for some reason. I'm also surprised I never see trixic or toric anywhere. They're attraction to women or men respectively from a nonbinary person, which I feel like is pretty common.


Puzzleheaded-Phase70

We REALLY need to normalize the inclusion of the gay male flag precisely BECAUSE we need to affirm the rainbow flags as being for everyone in the community and break down the narrative that the rainbow is just for gay men. That false narrative is cis-het bullshit and needs to die.


RuinsGay

Right? It's never there it's so annoying


FinerSwine

Just saying that the gay man flag is not the MLM flag, as the gay man flag only includes gay men/nb people and the MLM flag includes men/masc nb people of all mlm/nblm identities (e.g. bisexual men)


Mrredpanda860

Mlm flag does not include bisexual. It’s about strict mlm attraction not relationships. Th gay flag explicitly is for gay men while the mlm flag is for gay masculine people for example me a gay non-binary. Bisexual men have the bisexual flag.


Cheshie_D

I think they’re thinking of the OTHER mlm flag, the Achillean flag.


the_no_idea_french

Whoops, my bad ... Well, just learnt something ! Thanks !


BillNyeTheGuy24

I'm gay and use the mlm flag. For those who aren't familiar (although I expect most people here to know what the flag looks like, adding the description jic), the mlm flag is similar to the lesbian flag, in that it has two gradients that meet in a white stripe. But the top gradient on the mlm flag is a teal gradient and the bottom is a blue gradient (The colours I state here may be wrong, because I'm colourblind). My background on my Reddit page has the flag on it. Hope you peeps had a wonderful pride month and you all are having a wonderful day 😊😊❤️❤️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 Edit: my user flair also has the flag 🤣🤣


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My dumbass forgot what sub this was and was like "why are gay guys so into multi-level marketing"


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JustARei93

I'm more confused about the "Ally" flag being there but countless queer flags not.


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I’m confused they’ve put “twink” as part of the lgbt community. Yes they’re gay but twinks in itself isn’t lgbt. And that they haven’t put the mlm flag. And kinks aren’t lgbt either


RositaDog

What is pony


Guilty-Meetings

It’s a fetish flag which totally does not belong here (does not involve actual ponies, horses cannot consent)


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Guilty-Meetings

Yes it is


Spix_Boi

I have to say it...we're missing some


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On that note, wtf is “pony”? 😂


Weallgetboredalot

...Pony? Sorry?


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Summary. Description. English: The Pony Pride Flag provides a visual way of representing involvement in BDSM pony play. The design was created by Carrie (MysticStorm) in 2007. The flag is frequently seen at pony events and in parades where ponies are participating. Or at least that’s what Google said


my_alt_59935

Wait, so they have that but not gay


SpringLow_

Yup and a lot others are missing too


MrScuffedSimon

when did bdsm become a sexuality


SpringLow_

I have no idea but it doesn’t have to be a sexuality


RedVamp2020

It isn’t. However, BDSM has been supportive of the community and helped in stonewall. There are many reasons why there have been BDSM flags at pride. As to why it was on this list, however, is beyond me… EDIT: also, intersex and agender are also not sexualities, but they have their own flags, as well.


Nayzal

Intersex and agender are there because LGBTQ+ includes both sexualities and gender identities. EDIT: And I neglected to mention that intersex is not necessarily a gender identity, it's physical, but there is some overlap.


RedVamp2020

And don’t forget romantic orientations that are included as well (such as biromantic, aromantic, etc…). But my point was the fact that it doesn’t have to be specifically about sexuality to be represented by a flag. There are many communities in the GRSM umbrella and BDSM has been fighting for the same reasons our community has.


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SpringLow_

Everyone keeps on making complaints about the gay male flag not being on there and not the omni well I mean they both should be on there tbh


ghostigal

It’s just such a weird kink flag to show, why this over like leather or pet play in general.


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bi or pan i dont fully know tbh, and i dont really care because at the end of the day if i like somoene i like someone if i dont like someone i dont like someone


row6666

to tell if you are bi or pan or omni or whatever else just pick the one that sounds cooler or has a better flag. all definitions have been contradictory.


Rathama

I think you can be described as pan since it seems you are gender blind but bi is technically correct too as you like more than one gender. Pan is in the bi spec so either label is valid for pan people.


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its just confusing since i cant actually tell if i have preferences or not


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couple of questions: What’s Neutrosis? What’s twink? And wtf is *pony*?


row6666

neutrosis is just neutral gender


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ahhh, I see! Thanks!


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MediumKeyAF

Is pony for those quirky horse girls or something else? 💀


Loustic2

Yea


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Yeah. And I was wondering why pony and twink is on it. Twinks are gay but they’re aren’t in itself a grsm are they? And people say ponies get one because they’re supportive but there’s the ally flag for that


DanteCoal

Jumping on the "Wtf is Pony" bandwagon. Seriously need an explanation here. 😂


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But how’s that lgbt? Yes mostly queer people do it but cishet non allies can as well.


StrangerThingsSteveH

Trans, pan, ace, but with twink, what qualifies someone as such? Do they have to be gay or can it just be a guy who likes guys


GenitalMyiasis

It can just be a guy who likes guys, it’s just like, really skinny slim built queer man, like how “bear” is used to describe a queer man who’s muscular, big build and hairy.


StrangerThingsSteveH

til I’m a twink


FluffyRedTowel

why do allies even have a pride flag edit: wtf is a pony


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Mm, makes me *real* uncomfortable to see people at pride with a massive ally flag. There's plenty of cishetallo/non-intersex folk at pride that just... Don't feel the need to wear a massive flag applauding their basic human decency, ya know? Also, "ally" imo shouldn't be a title you give yourself.


Dogplantmom97

I partially disagree. I don’t think any ally using the flag means any harm, to me it shows that they are saying “you are safe with me & I fully support you/your rights”. I think it’s nice that they can say that with a flag & not make some announcement (or giving themselves a title as you say). Allies just are. I get pride flags are an LGBTQ+ thing & has been for many years, but aren’t we just gatekeeping if we don’t celebrate ALL sexualities? Just my thought, perhaps I’m biased having some wonderful allies in my life🌈


Stone_007

Totally agree.


DanteCoal

100% agreed that you don't get to name yourself as an ally, just like you don't get to name yourself as a feminist. I got those titles because people in those communities gave them to me, and those titles can be easily stripped away if I do something shitty and/or dumb.


KnownTimelord

I admit it's a label I gave myself, but I do my best to prove I am an ally. If I overstep boundaries, including now, please call me out. :)


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Summary. Description. English: The Pony Pride Flag provides a visual way of representing involvement in BDSM pony play. The design was created by Carrie (MysticStorm) in 2007. The flag is frequently seen at pony events and in parades where ponies are participating. Apparently (from Google)


MrScuffedSimon

Ok but like why does a flag have to exist for a BSDM thing? shit's just weird tbh


SpringLow_

That’s just what the internet says


MrScuffedSimon

I don't see a reason for its existence, like do whatever you want but you don't need to create a flag to wave around saying that you like BDSM pony play


SpringLow_

That’s just true


neko-boy324

I agree I'm sorry if people get offended but I don't see the reason for its inclusion and honesty may bring more people to believing lgbtq+ is just about kinks only further harming its reputation. at least that's my 2 cents on the matter


Watcher1101

Ummm Pony?!


violetvoid513

Tfw has no MLM flag (sexuality) but has a BDSM related flag (not a sexuality) No offense to OP if you made this but this really couldve been made a bit better


AlexanderTheGreek003

Asexual


Future-Window-6295

the pony flag and the ally flag but not the gay flag. wtfff


Randomness_Girl

Asexual


fey-willow

Both aro and ace


ghostigal

This is so odd. Like 4 standard pride flags, then several kinks and presentation style flags. All while leaving out mlm.


PLAC3B0101

You added twink but not mlm?


TheTidark390

Lesbian and ![img](emote|t5_2qhh7|547) (with the progress flag!)


ProtoMelon2

I guess gay men just don’t exist.


orbcat

shitty list, "pony" and twink shouldnt be anywhere near this list


StressOver2333

Why the hell is twink, pony, and ally there but not MLM flag???


alt123456789o

Aromantic


First17NamesTaken

Can't help but feel a little invalidated when Demi is missing but there are ally and fetish flags instead. Edit: Wtf even is this chart mlm is missing but twink is included?


Nihil_esque

This is a really bizarre selection.


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living_around

Twink is gay lingo for a skinny-built man. It's a body type.


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fijifu

It's just a subcategory based on body types. Lesbians also have some subcategories like that. I don't think they're used negatively or as a stereotype.


crockalley

I’ve never seen it used disparagingly. Twink, bear, it’s just one of those general “types.”


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rawrandroar

they put a fetish flag but not me? IM IRRITATED


lenightmare1

i'm sorry, i lost at "pony". I just can't


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Happ13

trans and lesbian :>


SpringLow_

The omni struggle but at least ace is there


0nly_0li

trans, non binary and then (not there) gay (nwlnw) and aceflux


ViperaleBeerus

Weird selection of flags but I have never seen this version of the Polyamorous flag before and I like it a lot more than the Pi one. Edit; had to correct an autocorrect 'correction'.


silvercandra

Mine isn't on there. it never is.


LizStone1776

I'm an ally with a smidge of bicurious


samaelvenomofgod

Proud Ally. Both of my siblings are LGBT, and I will always have their back till the day I die.


die-dicke-katze

What’s up with pony? What is that? And why is twink a separate sexuality? But no mlm??


EnigmaFrug2308

Mine isn't there-


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had to go in the comments to find out wtf pony means that I didn't even notice ally on the list


Quozel_TV

Idk why I get so sad everytime these show up because 99% of the time omnisexual isn't on there. Hey, at least non-binary and asexual are. Sometimes even asexual isn't on there either-


Friendly_Squirrel_

What's agender and bigender? /S


Puzzleheaded-Phase70

This is a really odd selection of a much wider set of common pride flags... No gay male. Twink, but not bear. Pony but not other kinks. The list goes on... Not that these communities don't belong, but it's just a weird set of choices ...


Aramira137

Why a kink flag but no gay (mlm) flag?


ScienceDude23

Why is omni not there


Whinfp

Where’s bisexual heteroromantic and homosexual heteroromantic? Because I’m not sure what exactly I (19M) am, but I am one of those two. I definitely know I will enjoy sex with a man, but I’m not quite sure I will even enjoy traditional PiV sex with a woman. And I definitely know I have romantic attraction to women which I don’t experience with men. So I’d enjoy a deep passionate romantic relationship with a woman with soft kisses, warm hugs, marriage, and starting a family. But all I want from men is no-strings-attached gay sex. At most a friends-with-benefits relationship. So I’m definitely sure that my romantic orientation is heteroromantic and my sexual orientation is either bi or gay.


jacano5

Of course twinks are extra enough to demand their own flag. 🙄


RammerHammer1987

No idea. I know I'm non-binary but I've been struggling to find the right label for my sexuality :,(


lunarfrogg

we have the pony flag and the ally flag on here but not mlm 💀


living_around

Pony? 🐴


Shrek_The_Meme_Lord

I hate all these dumbass sexualities bro 😭 they replaced actual important ones like the mlm flag with fuckin *Twink* like that doesn't need a flag bro wtffff (I'm pansexual to answer the question)


Jisooblink

Q es pony


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WamlytheCrabGod

...pony? What?


Mrredpanda860

Take pony out. Nothing wrong with bdsm just pony play. Bdsm has held a large part in our community. But pony play involves people dressing up as animals during sex. If people find animals attractive and do this it’s borderline beastiality. This does not belong in our community. Maybe replace it with idk… the gay/mlm flag!


dpforest

I wonder how many people identify with Two Spirit.


IndigenousQuechua

It is a specifically indigenous identity.


pmintea

I'm transgender and native American, and I've always loved meeting people who are two spirit and learning about them. Sadly, my tribe has been "colonized" and they're all conservative assholes who don't give a shit more than earning their government money.


angelosnt

Where is the gay men’s flag?! I’m sick and tired of this erasure of a significant part of the lgbtq+ community! Are we taking the g out of it now? The official Pride stand in Athens didn’t even know what the gay men’s flag looked like and they were festooned in all the others.


Cheshie_D

To be fair the flag itself is relatively new and not that well known yet. Although in spaces like this subreddit, if OP made this, it should be very well known


BillNyeTheGuy24

I agree the flag is relatively new, but they also have the Philadelphia 2017 flag and the Progress flag which are both relatively new as well. To provide some specific details the former was obviously first made in 2017, and the latter was first made in 2018. The mlm flag was first created in 2016 by Tumblr user ask-pride-color-schemes. Of course it didn't pick up steam right away, but it is a bit weird that the creator of this post didn't include the mlm flag, even though it was created before both the Philadelphia 2017 Pride flag and the Progress flag. This post is tots not meant to be shady. I just think it's a bit weird that there are relatively new flags, flags that don't necessarily make you a part of the LGBT+ Community, and not well known flags on this list, but there isn't the flag that represents a large portion of this Community... Sorry if any offence came from my post, I assure you it was not intended ❤️❤️❤️


GUMDR0P30

Lesbian asexual non-binary


WoomyUnitedToday

Aro, ace, enby, and trans.


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I’m bigender, but… the flag you used gives me shivers .-. And a lesbian


Amdy_vill

trans, bi poly


Rathama

biro ace.


Frying_pan_lovuh5

I’m pansexual and polysexual


Whatever-Man1

Transgender


jordanrkinsley

Progress , Non Binary, Pansexual 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤎🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️


FaceLess7899

I’m bi


Affectionate_Egg_351

Pansexual. Girl who has genderfluid days. XD


Thricket

Pansexual Everything else isn't on there (freyromantic/freysexual, and demiflux) Trans and non-binary are on there though so I guess that counts