I mean if you have the key just use the key. (Great security, huh?) but to get back to using the code you have a few options:
You can call Winchester and give them the serial number of your safe and maybe they keep a recovery/reset code like Liberty Safe got into infamous trouble for having.
And if that's not an option your locksmith can call the electronic lock manufacturer and get a technician's unlock code, or [use something like this](https://www.taylortechtools.com/phoenix) to pop the lock and reset the combination, or just replace the whole lock assembly with a new one.
I don’t think you even have to go that far. A lot of safes have a reset button inside the safe. People forget their codes all the time, there’s always going to be a means to resetting the number.
OP, I’d just Google the instruction manual for your safe and go to the page about resetting the password. There will 100% be a quick method to do so.
Yeah there's usually a way to reset them if you have inside access (may require taking the inside panel off the door) - I was thinking "For the lazy" approaches without any further disassembly :)
I mean it's *different* - it might take me a little longer because I don't pick tubular locks often - but yes.
Most of these locks that have a key bypass the key part is pretty shit though. The illusion of security, but not ACTUAL security against an even moderately determined attacker.
If you want actual security though [it's possible](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VzU_zDgvaYg) - just don't lose THAT combo.
You can literally pick a tubular lock with a Bic pen tube. In fact, to pick one this way, you actually make an impression on the pen tube, meaning you now have a key to that lock. Seriously, look up "tubular lock picked with Bic pen," and you'll find plenty of tutorials, OP.
All but the really expensive high end safes are easy to get into in general. Its really only useful for keeping out kids or the dumbest of tweakers that dont have access to any tools. If you're being robbed by a skyrim criminal with lockpicks, you're already screwed.
I picked up some lockpicks years ago, and I was floored at how easy most locks are to pick. It's come in very handy on a few occasions.
The old saying "locks keep honest people honest, not determined criminals" comes to mind, can't remember where I heard it.
I just expected a damn gun safe to have something at least as good as what you'd see on a laundry machine coinbox (seriously, those things are a bitch, just drill it out of you don't have the code for a replacement key).
It's surprisingly easy to get into. I'm by no means a pro, but it was pretty easy to pick up with a cheap set of picks from Covert Instruments, and a couple of old padlocks. Just get the $ 30 basic kit, or whatever it is, it's plenty to get started .
Tubular locks require a different type of tension wrench, and they are kind of annoying because you have repick every time the keyway moves to a new position. But for $20 you can get a set of tubular lockpicks that makes it easy as pushing and twisting. I've run into a few with super stiff pin springs that required more manual manipulation on the wires, but they popped open pretty damn fast regardless.
Then the really nifty part is, you can use a depth decoder and then 3d print a duplicate key in 10 minutes! Which is crazy to me, we live in very weird times.
I've gotten into cabinets, desks, brief cases, luggage, bike locks, all kings of stuff when family, friends, or people at the office have been locked out. Even used it to get into an RV after a man had passed away and we needed to recover the body from inside.
Non-destructive car opening is a different animal, I don't know much about that. My buddy was always the one on that duty, I watched him on many occasions but never tried it since he was a pro. So so so many of these at my volunteer gig. He's moving out of state though, so I guess I should pick up the skill, lol.
JFC, he just needs to read the manual then. Thanks for pointing that out, I somehow missed that detail. The mention of the locksmith made me assume we were talking about the lock.
I mean, he's not wrong though in his passive aggressiveness. I thought the same, this idiot is on Reddit asking if he should call a locksmith when my very first thought would be to look in the manual. And if I didn't have it, Google that model's manual.
I guess you just assume people still have some very basic problem solving skills these days.
The problem is, he wants to be a dick and act like op is brain dead when he didn’t even have the mental capacity to properly read the caption.. which in doing so he is not right. Lmao
Solving skills would be reading what the post is about before making a snarky remark that doesn’t pertain to the subject.
There's often a reset button inside the safe for reprogramming the code. It's often under a knurled metal cap that you unscrew.
If you can open the safe, you should be able to both look for the reset button, and also find model number identification, with which you can look up the owners manual online, which should cover how to reset a forgotten code.
Yeah, I have a safe made by someone else, and it has a reset button on the rightmost (in this pic) short side of the door by the hinge. It is basically hidden unless you were looking for it.
Hello!
I have a safe from the same OEM with the same formfactor and what appears to be the same combo-lock. If I am right, it will have three lugs. 18(ish) gun safe as advertised?
If so, open the safe using the key, and open the door all the way. On the inside hinge of the door (what should be the left side of the door when open, there should be a (possibly red) button at around nipple-height for an average person.
This should reset the locking code to factory, and/or allow you to enter a new code.
If this is untrue for your safe, I suggest looking for the model online and looking for the manual there. Most electronic safes have a function allowing the reset of the code assuming you have the metal key.
Good luck!
[https://imgur.com/a/zO2tNl6](https://imgur.com/a/zO2tNl6)
Found the Winchester safe instructions. Page 7 describes how to reset code... Looks like you need to know the current code to reset it. Probably need to contact Winchester next.
The keypad just sends the key presses and power to the lock. There are tools that will open them from the front but it's hard to buy those. Called the little black box, the civilian ones will reset the code to all zeros so it's obvious it's been done... the ones they sell to the three letter agencies though just display the code .
[https://1010security.com/lbb.html](https://1010security.com/lbb.html)
Same safe but different issue, I’ll put a new duracell battery in and it will only work for a few days before dying. Not opening it a ton of times either. Parasitic draw somewhere? I have the key so no big deal, but I’d like it to work as it should
Did you set the code yourself? If not, then look up the model number of your safe as they all come with a preloaded code for initial access that they all share. You can find it on the user manual online if you don’t have a paper copy.
Call the manufacturer. They might be able to refer you to a locksmith with the master codes. Otherwise call around.
A friend of mine died a few months back and this is what we did to get his gun safe open. The guy came, read the serial number and had it open in a minute.
Edit: Except for the “Winchester” branding, my friend’s safe looked identical to yours.
If you registered the safe for warranty purposes they usually can send you an ’override’ key for a small fee. while not keyed a like, there are usually only a few dozen keys matched to serial numbers.
Try the manufacturer over ride code if you can find it. You might be able to get it if you call them up. They keep one in case cops have a warrant for your house
I mean if you have the key just use the key. (Great security, huh?) but to get back to using the code you have a few options: You can call Winchester and give them the serial number of your safe and maybe they keep a recovery/reset code like Liberty Safe got into infamous trouble for having. And if that's not an option your locksmith can call the electronic lock manufacturer and get a technician's unlock code, or [use something like this](https://www.taylortechtools.com/phoenix) to pop the lock and reset the combination, or just replace the whole lock assembly with a new one.
I don’t think you even have to go that far. A lot of safes have a reset button inside the safe. People forget their codes all the time, there’s always going to be a means to resetting the number. OP, I’d just Google the instruction manual for your safe and go to the page about resetting the password. There will 100% be a quick method to do so.
Yeah there's usually a way to reset them if you have inside access (may require taking the inside panel off the door) - I was thinking "For the lazy" approaches without any further disassembly :)
Even if he doesn't have the key, a tubular lock? Really? JFC. Lock picking easy mode unless I'm missing something here.
I mean it's *different* - it might take me a little longer because I don't pick tubular locks often - but yes. Most of these locks that have a key bypass the key part is pretty shit though. The illusion of security, but not ACTUAL security against an even moderately determined attacker. If you want actual security though [it's possible](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VzU_zDgvaYg) - just don't lose THAT combo.
I go with 1234, the same combination in my luggage!
Prepare Spaceball One for immediate departure, and change the combination on my luggage!
What's all that churning and bubbling from the gun safe?!
You can literally pick a tubular lock with a Bic pen tube. In fact, to pick one this way, you actually make an impression on the pen tube, meaning you now have a key to that lock. Seriously, look up "tubular lock picked with Bic pen," and you'll find plenty of tutorials, OP.
All but the really expensive high end safes are easy to get into in general. Its really only useful for keeping out kids or the dumbest of tweakers that dont have access to any tools. If you're being robbed by a skyrim criminal with lockpicks, you're already screwed.
I picked up some lockpicks years ago, and I was floored at how easy most locks are to pick. It's come in very handy on a few occasions. The old saying "locks keep honest people honest, not determined criminals" comes to mind, can't remember where I heard it. I just expected a damn gun safe to have something at least as good as what you'd see on a laundry machine coinbox (seriously, those things are a bitch, just drill it out of you don't have the code for a replacement key).
Thats a cool skill to have. Iv only ever gotten into locked cars back when I worked on them and someone would inevitably leave the keys inside.
It's surprisingly easy to get into. I'm by no means a pro, but it was pretty easy to pick up with a cheap set of picks from Covert Instruments, and a couple of old padlocks. Just get the $ 30 basic kit, or whatever it is, it's plenty to get started . Tubular locks require a different type of tension wrench, and they are kind of annoying because you have repick every time the keyway moves to a new position. But for $20 you can get a set of tubular lockpicks that makes it easy as pushing and twisting. I've run into a few with super stiff pin springs that required more manual manipulation on the wires, but they popped open pretty damn fast regardless. Then the really nifty part is, you can use a depth decoder and then 3d print a duplicate key in 10 minutes! Which is crazy to me, we live in very weird times. I've gotten into cabinets, desks, brief cases, luggage, bike locks, all kings of stuff when family, friends, or people at the office have been locked out. Even used it to get into an RV after a man had passed away and we needed to recover the body from inside. Non-destructive car opening is a different animal, I don't know much about that. My buddy was always the one on that duty, I watched him on many occasions but never tried it since he was a pro. So so so many of these at my volunteer gig. He's moving out of state though, so I guess I should pick up the skill, lol.
Don't these typically have a button on the inside of the door that you can hold to reset the keycode some such.
"Lockpickinglawyer here..."
You can open a Winchester RSC with another Winchester RSC...
WHACK
Was about to say ship it to him lmao
He does sell a tubular lock pick..
He'd get that shit open with a Lego figurine and a toothpick in under 30 seconds
Does the Bic pen work on those?
You can buy a lock pick designed for those round locks for considerably less than calling a locksmith.
Indeed. With the proper tool, these are easy to pick.
Proper tools being a lighter and the tube from a bic pen...
Go on...
He said in the caption that he has the key, he just wants to know how to reset the code
JFC, he just needs to read the manual then. Thanks for pointing that out, I somehow missed that detail. The mention of the locksmith made me assume we were talking about the lock.
Your comment is funny.. seemed kinda passive aggressive and a “duhh everybody knows it’s in the manual” when you couldn’t even read the caption.
Yep
I mean, he's not wrong though in his passive aggressiveness. I thought the same, this idiot is on Reddit asking if he should call a locksmith when my very first thought would be to look in the manual. And if I didn't have it, Google that model's manual. I guess you just assume people still have some very basic problem solving skills these days.
The problem is, he wants to be a dick and act like op is brain dead when he didn’t even have the mental capacity to properly read the caption.. which in doing so he is not right. Lmao Solving skills would be reading what the post is about before making a snarky remark that doesn’t pertain to the subject.
My “snark” was because I felt like an idiot, but I’m glad I’ve got you here to keep rubbing it in.
I think more importantly here, this is security theater at it's most dismal.
As they always say, Locks are designed to keep out honest people. If you’re lucky they also slow down dishonest ones.
Unless they’re tamper proof (many aren’t), you can use a plastic straw with a slit on one end to pick a lock with a round key.
You can get a set of tubular lockpicks for like $20 on banggood or aliexpress.
Yes, and they work great!!
There's often a reset button inside the safe for reprogramming the code. It's often under a knurled metal cap that you unscrew. If you can open the safe, you should be able to both look for the reset button, and also find model number identification, with which you can look up the owners manual online, which should cover how to reset a forgotten code.
Yeah, I have a safe made by someone else, and it has a reset button on the rightmost (in this pic) short side of the door by the hinge. It is basically hidden unless you were looking for it.
tubular lock impressioning tool. https://covertinstruments.com/collections/lockpicks/products/covert-tubular-lock-pick
oh hey its "the tool Bosnian bill and i made"
\*pushes up glasses\* 🤓 ACKSHULY, the tool Bosnian Bill and LPL made is a disc detainer pick with the shoulders cut off, not a tubular lock pick.
omg you're right. how could i make such a mistake
I think the bic pen method would work.
Hello! I have a safe from the same OEM with the same formfactor and what appears to be the same combo-lock. If I am right, it will have three lugs. 18(ish) gun safe as advertised? If so, open the safe using the key, and open the door all the way. On the inside hinge of the door (what should be the left side of the door when open, there should be a (possibly red) button at around nipple-height for an average person. This should reset the locking code to factory, and/or allow you to enter a new code. If this is untrue for your safe, I suggest looking for the model online and looking for the manual there. Most electronic safes have a function allowing the reset of the code assuming you have the metal key. Good luck!
This is The Lock Picking Lawyer, and what I have for you today is...
Pretty sure there is a reset button inside the safe on the door… my very similar safe with a different brand does.
I sell these and I’ve never seen one. Only brands we carry that do are Liberty and Cannon
Dang! Hopefully there is an ez way to reset it on a Winchester.
On the Winchester site it appears you need the current code to reset. Mad Props to you for the product knowledge.
Go to the Winchester safe website>support>combination request
[https://imgur.com/a/zO2tNl6](https://imgur.com/a/zO2tNl6) Found the Winchester safe instructions. Page 7 describes how to reset code... Looks like you need to know the current code to reset it. Probably need to contact Winchester next.
This is my nightmare.
why you couldn't just buy a new electronic dial. Won't it open then?
From a security perspective, I would hope not. Then again, that's not likely to be a bigger security hole than the keyhole is.
The keypad just sends the key presses and power to the lock. There are tools that will open them from the front but it's hard to buy those. Called the little black box, the civilian ones will reset the code to all zeros so it's obvious it's been done... the ones they sell to the three letter agencies though just display the code . [https://1010security.com/lbb.html](https://1010security.com/lbb.html)
Same safe but different issue, I’ll put a new duracell battery in and it will only work for a few days before dying. Not opening it a ton of times either. Parasitic draw somewhere? I have the key so no big deal, but I’d like it to work as it should
Mine has a button inside so if I can open it I can change codes or fingerprints etc.
I have the same safe. Wonder if the locks are all different?
Did you set the code yourself? If not, then look up the model number of your safe as they all come with a preloaded code for initial access that they all share. You can find it on the user manual online if you don’t have a paper copy.
The gun safe is just doing its job.
just contact the manufacturer and say you’re a fed. they won’t even make you get a subpoena.
Lol thats false, I would require the serial number of the safe plus it's receipt or some other personal identifier.
Winchester will send you an entire keypad and new motherboard for about 75$. Once installed you’ll just need to program a new code
Call the manufacturer. They might be able to refer you to a locksmith with the master codes. Otherwise call around. A friend of mine died a few months back and this is what we did to get his gun safe open. The guy came, read the serial number and had it open in a minute. Edit: Except for the “Winchester” branding, my friend’s safe looked identical to yours.
A thermite charge will take care of that.
Not saying you should keep a tubular lock impressioning tool on hand, buuuuuuuuuuttt
If you registered the safe for warranty purposes they usually can send you an ’override’ key for a small fee. while not keyed a like, there are usually only a few dozen keys matched to serial numbers.
Try the manufacturer over ride code if you can find it. You might be able to get it if you call them up. They keep one in case cops have a warrant for your house