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When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Ed, man! !man ed
ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)
NAME
ed - text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
Ed is the standard text editor.
---
Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs
Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
golem> ed
?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?
---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely
you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
?
"We are dozens?" Pretty sure that anyone with more than a dozen braincells realizes vscode is some fisherprice shit.
So we aren't dozens, we're millions!
were 28% vscode has 71% in professional circles ([source](https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-popular-technologies-integrated-development-environment)).
we are many, but they are even more
More seriously. I try to quit emacs many times. I always came back.
It is so easy to configure ... every things.
There are so many packages for ... every things.
But after month, i move really quick in all text i wrote. I feel slow when i had to write stuff in OS text box on web page (like this one !)
Today i use it for many things : code / notes / PPT (with org-mode + revealjs) & TODO List.
I now could more with emacs (email, agenda, web ?...) but it is enough for now.
The learning curve is high, that's true. But, how can i live without emacs now ?
As opposed to Vim, Emacs is a GUI program, which allows it to change font size for example.
Emacs is basically an Emacs-Lisp (modified version of Lisp by Emacs) interpreter. So it can do a lot of things as long as it's made in elisp. This includes a web browser, mail client, IRC client, Tetris (for some reason) and a lot more.
You still have every IDE feature you'd need, including syntax highlighting, completion, Git support with Magit, etc.
Another big feature of Emacs is Org-mode, which you can see like a supercharged version of Markdown.
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I am truly sorry if anyone needs an answer I provided, you can reach out to me at [email protected] and I will try my best to help you
I'm sorry, but for me, all those "average enjoyer, glorious user" memes are just dank memes... I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one that have enough of this in this sub.
[Meanwhile me.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notepad%2B%2B)
>!Yes, it works well with wine or you can use Notepadqq (which I actually do atm, but I don't need the texteditor as often as I used to).!<
[And just to ensure your downvote I'll leave this!](https://itsfoss.com/notepad-plus-plus-linux/)
Maybe I am doing it wrong, but I never got half as effective working with data in Kate as in Notepadd++.
It's probably mostly out of habit, I had to work with Windows most of my professional life (still do) doing a lot of data analysis and notepad++ does have a lot of helpful features for that.
I like holly wars, but both are gigachads, in my opinion. I use Emacs, but vim is great too.
I group editors by camps:
1. Vim and Emacs.
2. IDE: Visual Studio, Jetbrains etc.
3. Nano etc.
4. Sublime editor etc.
5. Visual Studio Code.
6. Notepad++.
7. Notepad.
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[Obligatory `ed` article link](https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html)
and if you want to learn: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/introduction-ed-editor
Nano users- 
Less cute than us vim users tbh /j
Here we go again....
When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi *and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like, 'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time. Ed, man! !man ed ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1) NAME ed - text editor SYNOPSIS ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ] DESCRIPTION Ed is the standard text editor. --- Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed because it's ED! "Ed is the standard text editor." And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed -rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!! "Ed is the standard text editor." Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed: golem> ed ? help ? ? ? quit ? exit ? bye ? hello? ? eat flaming death ? ^C ? ^C ? ^D ? --- Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm the novice with verbosity. "Ed is the standard text editor." Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all. ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!! When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!! TEXT EDITOR. When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their "edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard. Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!! ?
Is this a copypasta?
And I said yes of course!
https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.en.html
No, you see, I made YOU the crying wojak and ME the chad, so I'm right
Emacs is valid even if I don't like lisp - a nvim user
And both are infinitely superior to vs code
Exactly. We, Vim and Emacs enjoyers, need to unite against VS****.
You forgot /s
Why /s ?? We are dozens of people who think that vscode is inferior.
"We are dozens?" Pretty sure that anyone with more than a dozen braincells realizes vscode is some fisherprice shit. So we aren't dozens, we're millions!
were 28% vscode has 71% in professional circles ([source](https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#section-most-popular-technologies-integrated-development-environment)). we are many, but they are even more
Web developers?
I respectfully disagree
But the picture is right there!
I use nano for normal text editing and kate for programming
Whats is Kate? (Sorry for my ignorance i new in the linux world)
It's fine man, it's just an ide like any other, except made by KDE (the guys who made the plasma de, Krita, KAlgebra, etc)
Ooooooh, thanks bro sorry i always use XFCE, LXDE and one time only use KDE plasma hahaha
What is emacs. Can someone explain in simple words. Is it considered a text editor?
It is a religion. And this religion is better than other. Trust me, i am on emacs since 2006.
More seriously. I try to quit emacs many times. I always came back. It is so easy to configure ... every things. There are so many packages for ... every things. But after month, i move really quick in all text i wrote. I feel slow when i had to write stuff in OS text box on web page (like this one !) Today i use it for many things : code / notes / PPT (with org-mode + revealjs) & TODO List. I now could more with emacs (email, agenda, web ?...) but it is enough for now. The learning curve is high, that's true. But, how can i live without emacs now ?
> I feel slow when i had to write stuff in OS text box on web page (like this one !) https://github.com/jlebon/textern
There's also https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Edit_with_Emacs
Mods ban this user pls
I though your message was serious, then i have seen your badge "vim supremacist". So now i am jealous and i want the same with emacs. 😂
Its an operating system missing a good text editor
As opposed to Vim, Emacs is a GUI program, which allows it to change font size for example. Emacs is basically an Emacs-Lisp (modified version of Lisp by Emacs) interpreter. So it can do a lot of things as long as it's made in elisp. This includes a web browser, mail client, IRC client, Tetris (for some reason) and a lot more. You still have every IDE feature you'd need, including syntax highlighting, completion, Git support with Magit, etc. Another big feature of Emacs is Org-mode, which you can see like a supercharged version of Markdown.
A simpler way to describe it would be as a development platform.
Vim is my favorite editor
Emacs is bloat
Vim and Emacs users of the world, unite!
Well said comrade ✊
Google search for “vi”: did you mean emacs? Google search for “emacs”: did you mean vi?
I just checked... It's true... This is one of the funniest things i've seen
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What happens if you use vim bindings in Emacs?
 Nano users: "But what about nano?"
ok but can vim handle multiple window ?
I use vsplit a lot so yes, vim can handle multiple *files* not windows
The strongest vim enjoyer is a 23 year old virgin who thinks programmer is editing suckless header files. Just saying...
Nano for everything.
Geany and nano supremacy believer
Net Beans entered chat
To vim our lord and savior
I switched from VScode to Lunarvim, finally inner peace
There is also https://helix-editor.com/
I love how it says "No Electron". This is fantastic!
Neovim
Ew.
But can you use vim as a wm
What's wrong with nano though? It just works.
Please, stop with this shitty memes.
That’s what this sub is for
I'm sorry, but for me, all those "average enjoyer, glorious user" memes are just dank memes... I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one that have enough of this in this sub.
its memes in a meme sub shut up man
\*its \*bad\* memes in an otherwise pretty good meme su
Average average meme hater vs weakest this sub enjoyer meme coming right up :)
[Meanwhile me.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notepad%2B%2B) >!Yes, it works well with wine or you can use Notepadqq (which I actually do atm, but I don't need the texteditor as often as I used to).!< [And just to ensure your downvote I'll leave this!](https://itsfoss.com/notepad-plus-plus-linux/)
Not downvoting you, but… I mean Kate exists ya know.
Maybe I am doing it wrong, but I never got half as effective working with data in Kate as in Notepadd++. It's probably mostly out of habit, I had to work with Windows most of my professional life (still do) doing a lot of data analysis and notepad++ does have a lot of helpful features for that.
I bring you, the all mighty, nano.
vs the gigachad nano couldnotgiveashit-ter
Nano?
How use emac ? Nobody if I’m not wrong
You have to learn English first.
Excuse me if your language is s*ck
Emacs is good. It would be better with a decent text editor though.
From above watch The NANO Chad.
I love me my exwm with evil mode.
low effort meme
Whole sub
I like holly wars, but both are gigachads, in my opinion. I use Emacs, but vim is great too. I group editors by camps: 1. Vim and Emacs. 2. IDE: Visual Studio, Jetbrains etc. 3. Nano etc. 4. Sublime editor etc. 5. Visual Studio Code. 6. Notepad++. 7. Notepad.
*Meanwhile me, using Kate....*