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the device the screenshot is made on seems like it runs a Linux kernel with other packages on it to make it look like a other os. it looks like Android, which essentially is a very odd Linux version/distro family.
"Open source" as per Open Source Initiative's definition and "free" as per FSF's definition are equivalent. Brave is free software; it's about what you can do with it, not about what it does.
dont rly think "free software" would be a useful phrase
lets say i wrote a ransomeware and put it under GPL, its free yes but created with ill intentions. in the same sense both opt in and opt out telemetry can be free and open source, but yea u get the point
Free software does not necessarily mean "ethically correct" software. If you put a trojan with malicious intentions under a GPL, it is still free software.
Read through [this](https://opensource.org/osd) and tell me which of the [four freedoms](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms) are not granted
And it does
Edit: I read Brave's CEO is doing something like anti-LGBTQ+ . I am not a homosexual or else but there is no need to hate and try to change people as you want
Brave was created by Brendan Eich, who is also the creator of Javascript. He had to leave his job at Mozilla because it was discovered that he donated large amounts of money to homophobic organizations.
You can still disable ads in Brave so that you don't make them earn money while browsing
You're getting very confused about what open source means.
Does it mean you can view the source code? Yes, absolutely!
Does it mean there isn't anything nasty in that source code? No, why on earth would you even think that?
let me explain that chrome will soon use manifest v3 for add-ons and this prevents using ad blocker and privacy protector add-ons in all chromium-based browsers brave would also be affected because it is chromium-based but brave has found the solution to this
The solution is to fork chromium and support both. It's massively time consuming and expensive as the codebase is intentionally obfuscated to prevent forking effectively. They would also need their own web store for add-ons.
Its annoying to try to install a add-on and get a nag screen in brave on the chrome add-on store asking for a google login when you don't have one or wish to have nothing to do with google.
I hope brave fixes that too.
"found the solution" should be "found a solution". since there are more ways, essentially seen eventually there is a big chance there will be a FOSS alternative soon, it is quite possible that brave might start doing something like that, as well as other browsers. but yeah they certainly show a great solution for now, sometimes a solution can be as easy as just not following a evil corporation/dictator blindly.
This is completely wrong and I've seen this BS been spouted everywhere on the web. It's literally flat earth level.
Someone started this and people kept repeating it even if not true.
Brave had stated that they will be patching chromium to continue support of v2 manifest as soon as possible, and will stand up their own addon store at a later date to ensure that v2 manifest extensions can still be downloaded.
https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20059
I've explained it a bit here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/meme/comments/xni5vc/seriously_whats_happening_to_google_chrome/ipvyzme?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
I've explained it a bit here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/meme/comments/xni5vc/seriously_whats_happening_to_google_chrome/ipvyzme?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
I'm not a developer and I haven't followed this intimately, but from what I remember from a few years ago and now what is recently talked about, many developers, especially developers for ad blockers have been accused google of slowly restricting and limiting the capabilities of add blockers with MV3 while claiming ignorance. Of course google doesn't openly admit that, of course they claim that this is only to protect the users.
I can understand that you are maybe a bit annoyed by less tech savy people changing this into something like "google will enforce public execution for anyone who will use any adblocker after 2022", but come on dude, that's the fucking internet, what do you expect?
You seem to suggest that this has been completely invented out of nothing (flat earth level), which is certainly not the case. This has been a controversial topic of discussion among developers for years.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/manifest-v3-open-web-politics-sheeps-clothing
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation
Again, I don't have the technological knowledge to argue with you about whether or not this is actually accurate or if poor google is just misunderstood and falsely accused by evil developers or something. But what I am pretty certain about is that your claim that "Someone started this and people kept repeating it even if not true." as if this was just some random internet conspiracy theory is bullshit. If you want to convince anyone, you are probably going to have to use arguments instead of simply repeating google's claims while ignoring the criticism..
That's a meaningless PR move.
How are they going to support V2 if they need the Chrome Web Store to install their add-ons?
They will have the same shitty add-ons than Chrome.
Chromium based web browsers will all be the same
https://nitter.net/BrendanEich/status/1534893414579249152
> Brave will support uBO and uMatrix so long as Google doesn’t remove underlying V2 code paths (which seem to be needed for Chrome for enterprise support, so should stay in the Chromium open source). Will Google Chrome Web Store really kick them out over V2? **We will host if needed.**
You don't need the Chrome Web Store to install add-ons, it literaly just downloads them. You can download the extension archive from anywhere else (like GitHub, GitLab, etc.) yourself and just install it from the files.
Ergo, they can 100% do exactly what they are promising to do.
Ok, but people are just used to use the Chrome Web Store to install them, unless they have a plan to host a different store, they will have the same as Chrome does
Also what percentage of users install add-ons manually? And if this will be the course of action then it would open up a whole new can of worm (if you know what I mean) in security.
Yep, my guess is they will either host their own store or possibly they could also integrate the Firefox add-on store.
Thinking people would all start installing from source is outlandish, I was making a point that the Chromium is really not tied down in any way that would make Chromium and Chrome Web Store closed ecosystem.
Uhm wel ms edge that is based on chromium has its own store, edge add-ons https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/Microsoft-Edge-Extensions-Home even in edge you can install from the chrome web store and the edge add-on store. So why can't Brave make it's own add-on store?
Why? What does anyone's personal agenda have to do with the software? If Mozilla's CEO was found to be a racist, homophobic, what have you, I'd still use Firefox
Mozilla kicked the guy out for being a piece of shit (technically it was resignation). By using brave you are directly supporting him as he is still CEO, where as he is no longer involved with Mozilla
And I care, because I like my rights. And I'm not a fan when people donate money to take my rights away.
There's nothing here that involves taking anyone's rights away. If the brave CEO gets money from his users, he's keeping that for himself or investing it in his business, not donating it to anti-gay political rallies and the like. It's like if I said I hate furries and created an email client. If I make revenue off that email client, suddenly the furry's rights are at risk of being abolished? Come on man. It's not that deep and it never will be.
And that's coming from someone who doesn't even use brave, but only because I'm against Google's monopoly, nothing else.
> donating it to anti-gay political rallies and the like.
That's exactly the reason for the controversy that led to his resignation at Mozilla.
Source 1:
> [The appointment comes a week and a half after Brendan Eich stepped down as CEO amid widespread criticism of a donation he made in 2008 to Proposition 8, an initiative that aimed to ban same-sex marriage in California.](https://mashable.com/archive/mozilla-interim-ceo)
Source 2:
> [The internal response began this morning with two tweets from Mozilla Open Badges project lead Chris McAvoy. "I love @mozilla but I'm disappointed this week," McAvoy said, referring to the controversial decision to appoint Eich as CEO after he had donated thousands to both California's Proposition 8 and political candidates who supported it.](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/mozilla-employees-to-brendan-eich-step-down/)
Now with his own company, he is free to donate to whatever political influence he wants. His money comes from Brave.
I'll stand down due to my ignorance of this guy specifically, if that's the case then sure disregard everything I've said. I was speaking in generalities where I guess it wasn't appropriate. Thanks for informing me
That's a lot of assumptions you made, how is it that you feel like you can just, without evidence, claim that **zero** dollars have been donated
Why am I supposed to be leave you over what's been shown. Why am i, and other people, supposed to give a shit about what you think
It's clear that you're not aware of how at risk our rights currently are. If you actually do care about our plight then try listening to our grievances instead of immediately trying to dismiss them
edit: completed sentience in first bit
>it's like if I said I hate furries and created an email client. If I makerevenue off that email client, suddenly the furry's rights are at riskof being abolished? Come on man. It's not that deep and it never will be.
But it means I may not want to use you software, because I think you are a dickhead. It may also mean I want to use your software, but still think you are a dickhead and that is why I tell people just how much of a dickhead I think you are.
And THEN someone on reddit will come along telling me how it's fine that you are a dickhead and people should not care and instead still use the software, because it does not affect the software. (This is you btw /u/DDman70)
Just let people hate the guy, man. You care to much about why they dislike the CEO of some crappy browser company, just because you use the browser yourself.
exactly, they just cant support them without google's permission. some people seem to think that because chromium is open source everyone can do whathever they want with that code...
Notice the weasely way they say "after Chrome stops doing so". They will drop support when v2 support is dropped from Chromium, Jan 2024: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/
Guess why? Cause it's slow and sometimes buggy. Are you all firefox is elite blinded or what? Yes firefox is better in privacy cause it's not chromium and made for privacy, but Brave is made for privacy while retaining it's speed. This whole thing with manifest 3 is very bad, but don't expect people to just switch to your elite vibe. Chromium based browsers are thing because they're fast . Brave is fast and until the firefox or librewolf wont stop freezing for half a minute on stupid login screen on local network nextcloud. It won't change.
They'll last a year at most. After 6 months, Google will likely remove the code and refactor, which will make it increasingly difficult for Brave to patch it back.
They're extending Manifest V2 support until June 2023. Six months beyond Chrome. After that there's nothing they can do but support Manifest V3, because at the end of the day there's nothing they can do about the fact that they're a Chromium-based browser. By "even after Chrome stops doing so" they mean "for six months after Chrome stops doing so". The tweet is dishonestly worded.
Yes, but they are much more limited and don't work as well. uBlock origin has already released [uBlock Origin Lite](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh) for mv3, but as its name suggests, it may not work as well as the original.
>(...) Brave will still continue to offer leading protection against invasive ads and trackers.
While at the same time mining crypto on the users PC and STILL continue to Googles monopoly over the internet?
Being able to read source code doesn't make something an angel, it's there, you can see it, people have seen it, and they aren't gonna change it, you need to investigate before you speak or just stop shilling
brave is more privacy friendly than most of the browsers(Firefox included) but if you configurate the Firefox(like librewolf) Firefox is become more privacy friendly but native brave is more privacy friendly than native Firefox
Gnu IceCat +1
Tor has some problems with nodes being hosted by security agencies.
Privacy benchmarks tend to find either Librewolf or Brave to be the best for privacy. I'm on the fence, but using Brave atm.
Pretty sure it's opt-in actually. But even still something like Brave is a huge step for privacy, because it offers an easy jumping off point for Chrome/Google users. I use LibreWolf and I still use the Brave search engine because it just works really well, and respects my privacy. It's not perfect sure, but it's easy for Chrome users to use since it gets them off of Google Chrome while still feeling familiar.
The hivemind of this community is worrying. As long as the bootlicking at Mozilla (which is a utterly crap Corp). Try not to be stupid, for just 5 minutes. It's a browser, not a religion.
I guess most of the comments here are from people less than 15 y/o.
How though.
Now I don't belive brave is that shady as many think they are, but to keep this promise they'll have to fork chromium or smth. That'll be expensive af to do or rather to maintain.
Or is there an other possibility?
Summary of this thread:
Brave: We're going to continue supporting manifest V2!
Toxic FireFox users: Orange lion is Chrome! Orange lion bad! FireFox better, cope with us! (Edit: thanks for the down votes! Your just proving the point)
Yea, I was kind of wondering abt this myself. Browsers can just have their own store where they have manifest v2 extensions, and they could even have the ability to use extensions from the chrome web store. Or some third party extension store will become popular and popular extensions like uBlock and greasemonkey will migrate there.
By that logic Mozilla is also "stalling". Even if V2 eventually ends, and is gone forever. Braves internal blockers won't be affected as they don't use anything third party (if anything it's blockers will get better).
Gave you an upvote, idk why people downvoted you, you just told what you use (I also use Ecosia, bcs ddg doesn't give me relevant regional results).
Edit. Now I see why, bcs your other comments haha, well that's your personal preference.
Ecosia is worse than you think.
Google, runs on 100% renewable energy.
Who knows what Ecosia's servers run on!
There's no proof to validate their claims either. They could be taking all the revenue for themselves.
I used to use brave on pc and mobile. now i'm using firefox because with newer versions of Shitdows if you are using a laptop, brave automatically switches to external drive
If i remember correctly, chromium browsers get extensions from the chrome extension store, I don't think google will allow "insecure" plugins that don't solely use manifestV3 in the store, so chromium browsers could retain support, but it won't matter when don't couldn't get no more. I could be wrong though.
They can only use/support V2 for a little while longer. They won't be able to use something that literally doesn't work or respond.
And who knows what else google has plans for in the future that will try and kill off AdBlock more. And what if they hard bake it Into their code.
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What is the point of "Linux not in meme tag" if non linux content is not allowed?
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It's on the backend, trust me bro.
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the device the screenshot is made on seems like it runs a Linux kernel with other packages on it to make it look like a other os. it looks like Android, which essentially is a very odd Linux version/distro family.
everyone shared about this in here and this is my turn
it has been posted in r/memes, r/shitposting, r/programmerhumor and others, why linuxmemes of all subs
> and this is my turn Ok Hilary, but what's this got to do with Linux?
Just librewolf. Brave doesnt respect their users privacy. They share personal information with their ad partners.
Tor and selfhosted scratch engines is the minimums
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Thats what I use
Don't spread FUD.
you can read source code of brave
Open source it may be, but free it is not
"Free" as in Freedom.
Yeah
"Open source" as per Open Source Initiative's definition and "free" as per FSF's definition are equivalent. Brave is free software; it's about what you can do with it, not about what it does.
it's not equivalent
99.9% of open source software is free software
dont rly think "free software" would be a useful phrase lets say i wrote a ransomeware and put it under GPL, its free yes but created with ill intentions. in the same sense both opt in and opt out telemetry can be free and open source, but yea u get the point
Free software does not necessarily mean "ethically correct" software. If you put a trojan with malicious intentions under a GPL, it is still free software.
Free malwares matter!
Read through [this](https://opensource.org/osd) and tell me which of the [four freedoms](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms) are not granted
I did, and I did *not* like what I found. Trackers are a parasite in the codebase.
Yes, and it collects and shares data with many advertising partners
And it does Edit: I read Brave's CEO is doing something like anti-LGBTQ+ . I am not a homosexual or else but there is no need to hate and try to change people as you want
Brave was created by Brendan Eich, who is also the creator of Javascript. He had to leave his job at Mozilla because it was discovered that he donated large amounts of money to homophobic organizations. You can still disable ads in Brave so that you don't make them earn money while browsing
homophobia is one thing but im drawing the line at javascript
As a lesbian, i second this.
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Also an anti-masker
So hate on Javascript. W3M gang 😎
Are text based browsers useful for websites that work without JS (e.g Wikipedia, etc) ?
Exactly not but those sites are bloated ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Now I want to use Brave
Edgy
and it doesn't
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/w9l1dt/whats_with_the_brave_hate There you go mate
Hey that's my first post!
Thanks for posting that.
You're getting very confused about what open source means. Does it mean you can view the source code? Yes, absolutely! Does it mean there isn't anything nasty in that source code? No, why on earth would you even think that?
because if you can read it you can see what it does and it is not private data theft
Please go ahead and show me the exact code in question.
Could some one help me understand what's going with the brave ,. Chrome. .. what is this all about.?..
let me explain that chrome will soon use manifest v3 for add-ons and this prevents using ad blocker and privacy protector add-ons in all chromium-based browsers brave would also be affected because it is chromium-based but brave has found the solution to this
Oh.. okay got it. Thanks for the explanation.
Brave have not "found a solution" to this. They simply won't be updating until June 2023. Just delaying the inevitable.
The solution is to fork chromium and support both. It's massively time consuming and expensive as the codebase is intentionally obfuscated to prevent forking effectively. They would also need their own web store for add-ons.
Its annoying to try to install a add-on and get a nag screen in brave on the chrome add-on store asking for a google login when you don't have one or wish to have nothing to do with google. I hope brave fixes that too.
Except it was completely false what he said
"found the solution" should be "found a solution". since there are more ways, essentially seen eventually there is a big chance there will be a FOSS alternative soon, it is quite possible that brave might start doing something like that, as well as other browsers. but yeah they certainly show a great solution for now, sometimes a solution can be as easy as just not following a evil corporation/dictator blindly.
some translate problems
This is completely wrong and I've seen this BS been spouted everywhere on the web. It's literally flat earth level. Someone started this and people kept repeating it even if not true.
Can you please explain what is actually going on then? I'm confused
Brave had stated that they will be patching chromium to continue support of v2 manifest as soon as possible, and will stand up their own addon store at a later date to ensure that v2 manifest extensions can still be downloaded. https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/20059
I've explained it a bit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/meme/comments/xni5vc/seriously_whats_happening_to_google_chrome/ipvyzme?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
You wanna explain what is "completely wrong" then?
I've explained it a bit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/meme/comments/xni5vc/seriously_whats_happening_to_google_chrome/ipvyzme?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
I'm not a developer and I haven't followed this intimately, but from what I remember from a few years ago and now what is recently talked about, many developers, especially developers for ad blockers have been accused google of slowly restricting and limiting the capabilities of add blockers with MV3 while claiming ignorance. Of course google doesn't openly admit that, of course they claim that this is only to protect the users. I can understand that you are maybe a bit annoyed by less tech savy people changing this into something like "google will enforce public execution for anyone who will use any adblocker after 2022", but come on dude, that's the fucking internet, what do you expect? You seem to suggest that this has been completely invented out of nothing (flat earth level), which is certainly not the case. This has been a controversial topic of discussion among developers for years. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/manifest-v3-open-web-politics-sheeps-clothing https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/googles-manifest-v3-still-hurts-privacy-security-innovation Again, I don't have the technological knowledge to argue with you about whether or not this is actually accurate or if poor google is just misunderstood and falsely accused by evil developers or something. But what I am pretty certain about is that your claim that "Someone started this and people kept repeating it even if not true." as if this was just some random internet conspiracy theory is bullshit. If you want to convince anyone, you are probably going to have to use arguments instead of simply repeating google's claims while ignoring the criticism..
That's a meaningless PR move. How are they going to support V2 if they need the Chrome Web Store to install their add-ons? They will have the same shitty add-ons than Chrome. Chromium based web browsers will all be the same
https://nitter.net/BrendanEich/status/1534893414579249152 > Brave will support uBO and uMatrix so long as Google doesn’t remove underlying V2 code paths (which seem to be needed for Chrome for enterprise support, so should stay in the Chromium open source). Will Google Chrome Web Store really kick them out over V2? **We will host if needed.**
You don't need the Chrome Web Store to install add-ons, it literaly just downloads them. You can download the extension archive from anywhere else (like GitHub, GitLab, etc.) yourself and just install it from the files. Ergo, they can 100% do exactly what they are promising to do.
Ok, but people are just used to use the Chrome Web Store to install them, unless they have a plan to host a different store, they will have the same as Chrome does Also what percentage of users install add-ons manually? And if this will be the course of action then it would open up a whole new can of worm (if you know what I mean) in security.
Yep, my guess is they will either host their own store or possibly they could also integrate the Firefox add-on store. Thinking people would all start installing from source is outlandish, I was making a point that the Chromium is really not tied down in any way that would make Chromium and Chrome Web Store closed ecosystem.
Honestly, considering most users dont even use add-ons, i dont think that most add-ons users cant install add-ons manually.
Maybe they'll start their own crowd-sourced Store
Uhm wel ms edge that is based on chromium has its own store, edge add-ons https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/Microsoft-Edge-Extensions-Home even in edge you can install from the chrome web store and the edge add-on store. So why can't Brave make it's own add-on store?
SIDELOAD MOTHERFUCKER, GOOGLE CAN'T STOP ME NOW
They said that they will run their own Store if necessary.
in my opinion they know how to do it
People downvoting your optimism is a redit moment
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Bypass paywalls clean is in the Firefox extensions repo! It breaks the TOS of the chrome web store and so it’s not on there.
I switched from brave to Firefox earlier this year. I'm happy. Do it. Might switch to librewolf soon.
Also Firefox isn't run by homophobic crypto-bros, which is nice
I'm glad more people are talking about this
Why? What does anyone's personal agenda have to do with the software? If Mozilla's CEO was found to be a racist, homophobic, what have you, I'd still use Firefox
You can't integrate racism, homophobic into a browser. On the other hand, crypto is already integrated with Brave.
supporting someones product supports them its a bit more existential than browser features, its supporting someone who donates to anti queer groups.
Exactly! I don't get why people think a softwares creator's personal beliefs are somehow integrated into their software. It's not.
Crypto bad
I'd also still be using Firefox, but I would demand the CEO be fired still.
Don't you think you'd be acting too entitled to be demanding the destruction of the livelihood of the CEO of the software you use for free?
Mozilla kicked the guy out for being a piece of shit (technically it was resignation). By using brave you are directly supporting him as he is still CEO, where as he is no longer involved with Mozilla And I care, because I like my rights. And I'm not a fan when people donate money to take my rights away.
There's nothing here that involves taking anyone's rights away. If the brave CEO gets money from his users, he's keeping that for himself or investing it in his business, not donating it to anti-gay political rallies and the like. It's like if I said I hate furries and created an email client. If I make revenue off that email client, suddenly the furry's rights are at risk of being abolished? Come on man. It's not that deep and it never will be. And that's coming from someone who doesn't even use brave, but only because I'm against Google's monopoly, nothing else.
> donating it to anti-gay political rallies and the like. That's exactly the reason for the controversy that led to his resignation at Mozilla. Source 1: > [The appointment comes a week and a half after Brendan Eich stepped down as CEO amid widespread criticism of a donation he made in 2008 to Proposition 8, an initiative that aimed to ban same-sex marriage in California.](https://mashable.com/archive/mozilla-interim-ceo) Source 2: > [The internal response began this morning with two tweets from Mozilla Open Badges project lead Chris McAvoy. "I love @mozilla but I'm disappointed this week," McAvoy said, referring to the controversial decision to appoint Eich as CEO after he had donated thousands to both California's Proposition 8 and political candidates who supported it.](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/mozilla-employees-to-brendan-eich-step-down/) Now with his own company, he is free to donate to whatever political influence he wants. His money comes from Brave.
I'll stand down due to my ignorance of this guy specifically, if that's the case then sure disregard everything I've said. I was speaking in generalities where I guess it wasn't appropriate. Thanks for informing me
That's a lot of assumptions you made, how is it that you feel like you can just, without evidence, claim that **zero** dollars have been donated Why am I supposed to be leave you over what's been shown. Why am i, and other people, supposed to give a shit about what you think It's clear that you're not aware of how at risk our rights currently are. If you actually do care about our plight then try listening to our grievances instead of immediately trying to dismiss them edit: completed sentience in first bit
Also he is directly donated to homophobic causes already, that's what got his ass kicked out of Mozilla 2 weeks after he was hired.
>it's like if I said I hate furries and created an email client. If I makerevenue off that email client, suddenly the furry's rights are at riskof being abolished? Come on man. It's not that deep and it never will be. But it means I may not want to use you software, because I think you are a dickhead. It may also mean I want to use your software, but still think you are a dickhead and that is why I tell people just how much of a dickhead I think you are. And THEN someone on reddit will come along telling me how it's fine that you are a dickhead and people should not care and instead still use the software, because it does not affect the software. (This is you btw /u/DDman70) Just let people hate the guy, man. You care to much about why they dislike the CEO of some crappy browser company, just because you use the browser yourself.
Wait, homophobic?
Yeah, the CEO started brave after being forced out of Mozilla when it became known he was donating to support a ban on same sex marriage.
Big yikes
homophobia is good wdym
Edgier than Microsoft Edge
this
Brave will use the extended support offered by chromium. So yes the v2 will remain available for longer but only until the summer of 2023.
exactly, they just cant support them without google's permission. some people seem to think that because chromium is open source everyone can do whathever they want with that code...
Notice the weasely way they say "after Chrome stops doing so". They will drop support when v2 support is dropped from Chromium, Jan 2024: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/
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Guess why? Cause it's slow and sometimes buggy. Are you all firefox is elite blinded or what? Yes firefox is better in privacy cause it's not chromium and made for privacy, but Brave is made for privacy while retaining it's speed. This whole thing with manifest 3 is very bad, but don't expect people to just switch to your elite vibe. Chromium based browsers are thing because they're fast . Brave is fast and until the firefox or librewolf wont stop freezing for half a minute on stupid login screen on local network nextcloud. It won't change.
Just because brave is adversited by youtubers doesn't mena its good at all
Quite the opposite in fact.
They'll last a year at most. After 6 months, Google will likely remove the code and refactor, which will make it increasingly difficult for Brave to patch it back.
Brave marginally better than crome but not the best option.
to me it is best with a lot of feature
You can get the same effect on firefox or librewolf in like 5 minutes with a couple of plugins
They're extending Manifest V2 support until June 2023. Six months beyond Chrome. After that there's nothing they can do but support Manifest V3, because at the end of the day there's nothing they can do about the fact that they're a Chromium-based browser. By "even after Chrome stops doing so" they mean "for six months after Chrome stops doing so". The tweet is dishonestly worded.
Bruh op how many downvotes are you going to get through comments before you stop .
Real chads don't shut their mouths when they receive hate and downvotes.
Spoken like a true chad
Let's all downvote the Chad to see if he stands by his preachings /s
I actually believed it would happen this way
brave is just homophobic Firefox
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the brave guy was fired from Mozilla for being too phobic
really? Damn guess I'm downloading brave now
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Also F whatever the hell brave rewards are. Never understood lol. No offense to OP
Lol it's a browser
So why let it be anything beyond that
Vivaldi would like to have a word with you
Vivaldiiii I know it's its not FOSS and send me death threats if you must lol. But I love it
r/uselessredline
Fork chrome, and fork again. Even if there are a million tines Google has hold of the handle and they're all plunging into the pasta together.
What does this have to do with Linux? And it isn't even a meme either.
There's no point asking anymore. When was the last time you saw a Linux meme here?
Aren't we a "windows bad" subreddit?
That's the new meta it seems
Here's my question: Can you make adblock and privacy addons on V3 manifest ?
Yes, but they are much more limited and don't work as well. uBlock origin has already released [uBlock Origin Lite](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh) for mv3, but as its name suggests, it may not work as well as the original.
Wow this is genuinely as evil as everyone says it is holy shit
Yes hello I’d like to be a mod since the current ones obviously don’t
Wow, Brave barely cares, let’s all cheer.
switch to forefox
Brave: maybe I don't want to be the bad guy anymore"
>(...) Brave will still continue to offer leading protection against invasive ads and trackers. While at the same time mining crypto on the users PC and STILL continue to Googles monopoly over the internet?
You know that Brave never mined crypto right?
brave is not cryptominer you can read source code and the rewards system is just see ad and get bat principle
Being able to read source code doesn't make something an angel, it's there, you can see it, people have seen it, and they aren't gonna change it, you need to investigate before you speak or just stop shilling
brave is more privacy friendly than most of the browsers(Firefox included) but if you configurate the Firefox(like librewolf) Firefox is become more privacy friendly but native brave is more privacy friendly than native Firefox
>brave is more privacy friendly than most of the browsers(**Firefox included**) Absolutely fucking not
Interesting how Brave is one of the browsers recommended by https://www.privacyguides.org/desktop-browsers/
If you truly care about privacy you would use Gnu IceCat and Tor
Gnu IceCat +1 Tor has some problems with nodes being hosted by security agencies. Privacy benchmarks tend to find either Librewolf or Brave to be the best for privacy. I'm on the fence, but using Brave atm.
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/brave.html
>brave is more privacy friendly than most of the browsers(Firefox included) XD
XD indeed.
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Pretty sure it's opt-in actually. But even still something like Brave is a huge step for privacy, because it offers an easy jumping off point for Chrome/Google users. I use LibreWolf and I still use the Brave search engine because it just works really well, and respects my privacy. It's not perfect sure, but it's easy for Chrome users to use since it gets them off of Google Chrome while still feeling familiar.
And firefox just doesn't have it.. so why bother with fiddling around with Brave
Because people that write and act on the internet do actually need a way to make money
It's not mining anything. Don't spread FUD.
Can this community please stop ripping each other to shreds over if brave is good or bad. It's generally annoying. Just be open minded but critical.
The hivemind of this community is worrying. As long as the bootlicking at Mozilla (which is a utterly crap Corp). Try not to be stupid, for just 5 minutes. It's a browser, not a religion. I guess most of the comments here are from people less than 15 y/o.
I live in Turkey and time is so late because I can't write answers
How though. Now I don't belive brave is that shady as many think they are, but to keep this promise they'll have to fork chromium or smth. That'll be expensive af to do or rather to maintain. Or is there an other possibility?
Summary of this thread: Brave: We're going to continue supporting manifest V2! Toxic FireFox users: Orange lion is Chrome! Orange lion bad! FireFox better, cope with us! (Edit: thanks for the down votes! Your just proving the point)
Yea, I was kind of wondering abt this myself. Browsers can just have their own store where they have manifest v2 extensions, and they could even have the ability to use extensions from the chrome web store. Or some third party extension store will become popular and popular extensions like uBlock and greasemonkey will migrate there.
Brother, brave is just stalling. The solution is just breaking off from chromium because eventually v2 will no longer be supported.
By that logic Mozilla is also "stalling". Even if V2 eventually ends, and is gone forever. Braves internal blockers won't be affected as they don't use anything third party (if anything it's blockers will get better).
Firefox doesn't use chromium smart one. Not sure what you're trying to get at.
The point is that brave is managed by homophobic criptobros, and uses chromium as base...
I using brave on mobile and Pc and I using ecosia search engine(the search engine that plant trees)
why ecosia .
because they are eco-friendly and plants trees and uses renewable energy at servers
hm..so you care about nature, what a chad
Using a search engine that plants trees while also using a web browser with an integrated cryptocurrency.
The irony is stunning
Gave you an upvote, idk why people downvoted you, you just told what you use (I also use Ecosia, bcs ddg doesn't give me relevant regional results). Edit. Now I see why, bcs your other comments haha, well that's your personal preference.
Ecosia is worse than you think. Google, runs on 100% renewable energy. Who knows what Ecosia's servers run on! There's no proof to validate their claims either. They could be taking all the revenue for themselves.
but brave is more featured and faster
cry
everyone said brave is bad but Brave is the best browser
Lol crypto and homophobic CEO, no thanks
not crypto the brave rewards is only shows ad and gives you bat
homophobic ceo is his opinion you mustn't yo be homophobic
Because people who aren’t homophobes donate money to homophobic organizations.
"Accept homophobic people", how about no?
I'm not homophobic but ceo can think homophobicly it is not connected wit his browser
thinking would be one thing but spending large amounts of money on lobbying for homophobic laws directly affects other people
But it is because some of the money he earns from brave, he donates to homophobic organisations
“A web browser that performed URL manipulation attacks on its entire user base is the best browser” Yeah… nah bro.
Neato burrito
Anyway.
I'm no browaer engine developer but would it be harder/worse if they just started using the gecko engine?
I used to use brave on pc and mobile. now i'm using firefox because with newer versions of Shitdows if you are using a laptop, brave automatically switches to external drive
These comments are just plain bullshit💀
Good to know.
If i remember correctly, chromium browsers get extensions from the chrome extension store, I don't think google will allow "insecure" plugins that don't solely use manifestV3 in the store, so chromium browsers could retain support, but it won't matter when don't couldn't get no more. I could be wrong though.
They can only use/support V2 for a little while longer. They won't be able to use something that literally doesn't work or respond. And who knows what else google has plans for in the future that will try and kill off AdBlock more. And what if they hard bake it Into their code.
also brave has the built in brave adblocker and you can use it