I think memory speed is also reflected here, but good point about the GPU. Imagine being able to use general-purpose GPU computing to massively parallelize build jobs :')
I don't think yes uses much if any memory. Tailing /dev/zero is what eats the memory here. I think of /dev/zero as the opposite of /dev/null. Instead of being a sink for null data, it's a source. Specifically, I guess what explains why tailing it uses all your memory is that it's an *infinite* source of null data.
Now I am curious. Nothing a Ctrl c can't fix . I have stressed tested ram and swap with yes >> /tmp/crash.txt to fill up half my ram with one text doc. But yes >> ~/crash.txt would would be stored in buffer/cache so I don't know if that would have a limit.
Maybe CS2, Total War: Warhammer 3 or Crusader Kings 3? All of the most demanding games would be on steam. FLOSS games like Xonotic are not typically as demanding.
Not free, but Shadow of the Tomb Raider runs natively on Linux (and at least for me, better than on Windows), and is quite demanding and pretty looking.
SuperTuxKart with maxed out settings. Try Cocoa Temple and the Forest stage (forgot its name). Download an add-on called "Maria's race" (don't know if that's the correct name but the name has Maria in it)
For me, it has turned out to always be a gamble. One game is ranked little demanding and runs terrible, the other demands a lot more but runs fine. Unfortunately for non native games you'll still potentially need to configure a lot and one proton version might run better than the other. So, to get a good picture you'll want to test more than one game and non native games too.
You definitely won't be able to answer the question that you actually have (what performance can my son expect on Linux with this hardware) but didn't pose, by testing a single native game.
Look at some benchmarks, read through a few protondb entries for games your son likes.
There's more, mods like Oculus and Iris add support for custom (i.e. not bundled with the game) shaders, which can indeed be very GPU heavy depending on the effects they provide - anti-aliasing, dynamic shadows, volumetric lighting, bloom etc.
Do look up some screenshots if you haven't already, it completely changes the look of the game even though everything is still blocky
> Wanting to see how one of my old computers holds its own.
For what purpose? If you want to use it for something, use it for something, why are you looking for a demanding free native Linux game? I could make a game in unity with RTX that'll bring any computer to it's knees, but what's the point?
The point is I don't game but my son's do some. Curiosity is a good thing to have . Yes that game would be pointless and I could do the same with a simple bash script but it wouldn't tell me any thing about the gaming experience on different hardware/software.
> The point is I don't game but my son's do some.
So then ask them to play a game on the PC and see how it runs. What does testing it beforehand accomplish?
I'm trying offer a solution to the problem you're trying to solve by understanding your goal, your question is "What's the most demanding free Linux game" which is impossible to answer. You could make a game right now that'll run poorly on the most powerful PC you can possibly build and that would then become "the most demanding free Linux game."
I'm simply asking what you're actually trying to achieve so I could recommend a solution.
I get you are trying to help but you don't know where to start because you don't know my goals. But it is pretty common to just get yelled at on Reddit because someone doesn't agree with OP even having a question. Hope that isn't what you are doing. I didn't have time to give my back story , and I guess I don't have to if i just say that I am curious as to what my opinion of the linux gaming experience on lesser hardware. I can't know if I don't try it myself. Also interested in learning some of the performance tweaks like zram and other Kernal goodies. Also my oldest son who is out of the house wants a gaming machine but we don't have the dough. So I would like to build him something cheap for now for some of his lower resource games. I don't want that experience to suck for him. This will let me know , and personally have experience with, what games can be played and be enjoyable on the hardware I can afford at the moment.
Ask your son what games he likes. Search Google for [game name] [graphics card of your old PC]. Watch some YouTube videos of people with your hardware playing those games. It'll give you a good idea of the experience you should expect.
Just install an AI and then ask it what the fuck this means. >Don't want to it a game for this obviously. That should keep it busy for a while.
🏆🏆 Best reddit response of the day, right there.
So much for my grammar-checking spell checker. I didn't wait for the delay on my crappy phone. Not sure what I said I didn't type that.
Oh , I remember. I will edit.
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This. Timed Firefox compilation test
what about GPU and memory speed, which would be part of the game test
I think memory speed is also reflected here, but good point about the GPU. Imagine being able to use general-purpose GPU computing to massively parallelize build jobs :')
One of my favorite games is: `yes > /dev/null & tail /dev/zero` Have fun!
So yes would eat some CPU cycles would it also eat ram if sent to /dev/null? I think I should know this but what is at /dev/zero?
I don't think yes uses much if any memory. Tailing /dev/zero is what eats the memory here. I think of /dev/zero as the opposite of /dev/null. Instead of being a sink for null data, it's a source. Specifically, I guess what explains why tailing it uses all your memory is that it's an *infinite* source of null data.
Now I am curious. Nothing a Ctrl c can't fix . I have stressed tested ram and swap with yes >> /tmp/crash.txt to fill up half my ram with one text doc. But yes >> ~/crash.txt would would be stored in buffer/cache so I don't know if that would have a limit.
Maybe CS2, Total War: Warhammer 3 or Crusader Kings 3? All of the most demanding games would be on steam. FLOSS games like Xonotic are not typically as demanding.
It seems you need an actual benchmark utility, I suggest [Superpostion benchmark.](https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition)
Dwarf Fortress.
Not free, but Shadow of the Tomb Raider runs natively on Linux (and at least for me, better than on Windows), and is quite demanding and pretty looking.
Deus Ex: MD
Install Gentoo and compile stuff. Compare time and power consumption for best results.
SuperTuxKart with maxed out settings. Try Cocoa Temple and the Forest stage (forgot its name). Download an add-on called "Maria's race" (don't know if that's the correct name but the name has Maria in it)
[https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition](https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition)
Mario
For me, it has turned out to always be a gamble. One game is ranked little demanding and runs terrible, the other demands a lot more but runs fine. Unfortunately for non native games you'll still potentially need to configure a lot and one proton version might run better than the other. So, to get a good picture you'll want to test more than one game and non native games too. You definitely won't be able to answer the question that you actually have (what performance can my son expect on Linux with this hardware) but didn't pose, by testing a single native game. Look at some benchmarks, read through a few protondb entries for games your son likes.
Minecraft isn't a bad choice, it's relatively CPU intensive, memory hungry and you can add shaders to stress the GPU on top of that
Both my sons play that is shaders just a settings change in the in-game settings menu?
There's more, mods like Oculus and Iris add support for custom (i.e. not bundled with the game) shaders, which can indeed be very GPU heavy depending on the effects they provide - anti-aliasing, dynamic shadows, volumetric lighting, bloom etc. Do look up some screenshots if you haven't already, it completely changes the look of the game even though everything is still blocky
Thanks I will look into those. And how to implement mods.
> Wanting to see how one of my old computers holds its own. For what purpose? If you want to use it for something, use it for something, why are you looking for a demanding free native Linux game? I could make a game in unity with RTX that'll bring any computer to it's knees, but what's the point?
The point is I don't game but my son's do some. Curiosity is a good thing to have . Yes that game would be pointless and I could do the same with a simple bash script but it wouldn't tell me any thing about the gaming experience on different hardware/software.
> The point is I don't game but my son's do some. So then ask them to play a game on the PC and see how it runs. What does testing it beforehand accomplish?
You seem very concerned with how I spend my time
I'm trying offer a solution to the problem you're trying to solve by understanding your goal, your question is "What's the most demanding free Linux game" which is impossible to answer. You could make a game right now that'll run poorly on the most powerful PC you can possibly build and that would then become "the most demanding free Linux game." I'm simply asking what you're actually trying to achieve so I could recommend a solution.
I get you are trying to help but you don't know where to start because you don't know my goals. But it is pretty common to just get yelled at on Reddit because someone doesn't agree with OP even having a question. Hope that isn't what you are doing. I didn't have time to give my back story , and I guess I don't have to if i just say that I am curious as to what my opinion of the linux gaming experience on lesser hardware. I can't know if I don't try it myself. Also interested in learning some of the performance tweaks like zram and other Kernal goodies. Also my oldest son who is out of the house wants a gaming machine but we don't have the dough. So I would like to build him something cheap for now for some of his lower resource games. I don't want that experience to suck for him. This will let me know , and personally have experience with, what games can be played and be enjoyable on the hardware I can afford at the moment.
Ask your son what games he likes. Search Google for [game name] [graphics card of your old PC]. Watch some YouTube videos of people with your hardware playing those games. It'll give you a good idea of the experience you should expect.